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#3201 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 12:01
by zforumas
Smrcak15 wrote:
zforumas wrote:Ama covjece ovo nema veze s vjerom. Ja te pitam zdravorazumski a ti mi opet neke price pricas.

Kakve ba photoshope, o cemu pricas? Pa i do sad su ga karikirali prema tim detaljnim opisima. Sta ako je taj mezar prazan? Ako nema niko u njemu?

Ama desi se cudo odabranom vjerniku, ali ne mora biti odabran onaj koji je do njega.
Kako ne kontas covjece da ovaj Muderis samo malo prepravi tekstove onog Arapa i isprica ih ovdje, a oni u Siriji isto. Uostalom po cemu je ovaj Muderis covjek od povjerenja? On je tipicni primjer lika koji je skontao da moze obrnuti dobru lovu zahvaljujuci ljudima poput tebe, one raje iz Maoce, Bocinje i sl.... Dok vi obicni smrtnici idete ginete "na Allahovom putu" oni sjede kod kuce i pricaju kako mirisete kad poginete.

Tako mom rodjaku mozak isprase, pa nakon 7 dana dodje kuci bradonja sa 1500 KM kesa i njegovoj materi kaze ovo je plata, a on je poginuo na Allahovom putu. Zena i djeca imaju novog muza i oca, nista se ne brini :-)
sad cu ti objasnit sta ja pricam

zamisli se sad skenirana slika poslanika u mezaru, postavljena na internet, i sad odjednom photoshopaju, postavljaju penis u uzdignutom stanju naprimjer uskenirajoj slici, ono sprdnja da se narod smije, tako te stvari...
Smrle ba vadis se sad tim nekim djecijim fazonima. Znam ja dobro sta si ti mislio i kazem ti opet, vec je toga bilo. Uostalom isto to moze da se napravi i sa samim mezarom.

Ipak je u pitanju strah od istine, sta ako nema nikog u mezaru.... Gore je to od bilo kakve photoshopirane slike

#3202 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 12:02
by Smrcak15
Mezarovi dva prijatelja poslanika Muhammed otkopani u Iraku godine 1932 koja nisu istruhla, Huzejfe AL Yamani i Dzabir ibn Abdullaha
Fresh Dead Bodies of 2 Companions of Prophet Muhammad in Iraq

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It is law of nature defined by Allah that all dead bodies decompose (or corrupt as a punishment sign) except true Muslims. And, there are hundreds of evidences and proofs that the dead bodies of prophets of Islam, companions of prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and true Muslims have been found in fresh condition with blood and fragrance when their graves opened after centuries and several years.

Urdu Readers: You can watch urdu video here with high quality photos.

The Event Detail:
In 1932 A.D (or 1929 by some reports) the ruling King of Iraq Shah Faisal dreamt that he was being addressed by Hazrat Hudhaifa al-Yamani (ra), who said:

'O King! Transfer Jabir ibn Abdullah and me from the bank of river Tigris and bury us at some safe place because my grave is already water-logged, (full of water) while Jabir ibn Abdullah's grave is slowly getting water-logged.'

This dream was repeated again the next night but King Faisal did not pay attention to it on account of his pre-occupation with state affairs. On the third night Hazrat Hudhaifa al-Yamani (ra) was seen in the dream by the grand Mufti of Iraq. Hazrat Hudhaifa al-Yamani (ra) said to grand Mufti: 'I have been directing king since two nights to transfer our bodies but he has not paid any heed. Tell him emphatically to arrange for the transfer of our graves!'

King Faisal, his Prime Minister and Grand Mufti decided to carry out this work after discussing this matter. It was decided that Grand Mufti should issue a fatwa (religious ruling) on this matter and the Prime Minister will issue statement to the press, so that public may know about this great event. It was declared that on 10th Zulhijjah after noon prayers the graves shall be opened and the holy bodies shall be transferred to another place.

As it was Hajj season, pilgrims had gathered in Makkah. They requested King Faisal to postpone the event for a few days so that they all could attend the event after performing the Hajj. Hence, the King postponed this event to 20th Zulhijjah.

After noon prayers, on 20th Zulhijjah 1351 A.H. a large number of Muslims and non-Muslims gathered in Baghdad, and the city was heavily crowded. First when the grave of Hazrat Hudhaifa al-Yamani (ra) was opened water was fond inside. The body was lifted with a crane in such a way that it safely came on a stretcher. Then the stretcher was lifted by the King, the Grand Mufti, the Prime Minister and Prince Farooq of Egypt and brought to a glass coffin box made especially to keep the holy bodies. The body of Hazrat Jabir ibn Abdullah al-Ansari (ra) was also transferred to the glass box in the same scrupulous manner.

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The most marvelous spectacle was now seen by the huge crowd that had gathered to witness this great event. Both the holy bodies of these true companions (Sahabah) of Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) were fresh and intact while their open eyes issued forth such divine light that the spectator's eyes were dazzled. Furthermore, their coffin, clothes were also intact and at first glance, it appeared as if these heroes of Islam were alive. The two bodies were then taken away and buried afresh near the grave of another great hero of Islam, Hazrat Salman-e-Farsi (ra), in Salman Park which is 30 miles from Baghdad. This miracle amazed the scientists, philosophers and doctors. They were all bewildered and spellbound to witness this great miracle.

A German physiologist who had been showing a lot of interest in this was so impressed by the conditions of the bodies, which were buried for more than a thousand years, that he immediately came to the Grand Mufti, held up his hands and said, 'What more evidence can there be in support of Islam. I embrace Islam so teach me about it!'. Thus before thousands of people this German doctor became a Muslim. His example was followed by many Christians and Jews and for a long time it continued in Baghdad and a large number of people became Muslims as a result of this miracle.
Now let us all sit-back and think over this event and derive a lesson from this miracle. Pondering over such events is potent food for the mind and serves as an eye-opener to humanity
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Event Confirmation / Publication Sources:
Daily Jung, 7th June 1970 (newspaper)

Some of the material was published in a Pakistani newspaper, 'Daily Jung' on 7th June 1970.
Khairullah Hadeesi (the Direct of Public Relations, Iraq)

Khairullah Hadeesi (the director of public relations punctuation in Iraq) told about this event to Respected Mufti Taqi Usmani (a famous Muslim scholar of Pakistan) when he met him. Mufti Taqi Usmani wrote about this discussion in his book 'Jahan-e-Deedah' on page no 55.
Shah Sahab (the Eyewitness who Kissed Forhead)

Suhail Ahmad Shah Jeelani from Dera Ismail Khan, Pakistan telephoned me (Zeeshan Arshad, @RightfulReligion.com) on 17th October, 2013. He talked to me and confirmed that he met the eyewitness of this event named "Shah Sahab" from Sialkot, Pakistan whose age is more than 100 years. Shah Sahab was also in Iraq on the time of event and he kissed the forehead of companion of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
Daily Ummat, 19th September, 2013 (newspaper)

This event was published in Pakistani newspaper, 'Daily Ummat' on 19th September, 2013.
Ilm Seeker (the Person with Original Video)

During research time, I (Zeeshan Arshad, @RightfulReligion.com) found an elder whose age was more than 70 years. His nickname was 'Ilm Seeker' and he told me that there are only few people in world who have the original videos of that event and he is one of them. I insisted him for video and explained mission of prevailing Islam and he said that he will ask permission from his spiritual teacher before deciding it. However, he never replied back any of my future messages and did not provide original video.
Beside above, I found information about few more eyewitnesses but I couldn't get their contact details or response. Therefore, I did not mention about them.

It is a fact that this event is going about a century old so I consider that majority of eyewitnesses must have died by this time. However, we can know by all evidences that this event truly happened.

Are you an eyewitness or know anyone related to this event?
If you are an eyewitness or know someone who is an eyewitness of this event then kindly contact us. Also, if you have any further photos or the rarest video of this event then please contact us.

#3203 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 12:06
by beni-bu-man
@SMRLE

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#3204 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 12:08
by r_faruk
bolje su one slike iz roswela, mislim onih ljudi koji su slikali vanzemaljce.... pogle onog budistu smrle....

#3205 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 12:08
by Smrcak15
zforumas wrote:
Smrcak15 wrote:
zforumas wrote:Ama covjece ovo nema veze s vjerom. Ja te pitam zdravorazumski a ti mi opet neke price pricas.

Kakve ba photoshope, o cemu pricas? Pa i do sad su ga karikirali prema tim detaljnim opisima. Sta ako je taj mezar prazan? Ako nema niko u njemu?

Ama desi se cudo odabranom vjerniku, ali ne mora biti odabran onaj koji je do njega.
Kako ne kontas covjece da ovaj Muderis samo malo prepravi tekstove onog Arapa i isprica ih ovdje, a oni u Siriji isto. Uostalom po cemu je ovaj Muderis covjek od povjerenja? On je tipicni primjer lika koji je skontao da moze obrnuti dobru lovu zahvaljujuci ljudima poput tebe, one raje iz Maoce, Bocinje i sl.... Dok vi obicni smrtnici idete ginete "na Allahovom putu" oni sjede kod kuce i pricaju kako mirisete kad poginete.

Tako mom rodjaku mozak isprase, pa nakon 7 dana dodje kuci bradonja sa 1500 KM kesa i njegovoj materi kaze ovo je plata, a on je poginuo na Allahovom putu. Zena i djeca imaju novog muza i oca, nista se ne brini :-)
sad cu ti objasnit sta ja pricam

zamisli se sad skenirana slika poslanika u mezaru, postavljena na internet, i sad odjednom photoshopaju, postavljaju penis u uzdignutom stanju naprimjer uskenirajoj slici, ono sprdnja da se narod smije, tako te stvari...
Smrle ba vadis se sad tim nekim djecijim fazonima. Znam ja dobro sta si ti mislio i kazem ti opet, vec je toga bilo. Uostalom isto to moze da se napravi i sa samim mezarom.

Ipak je u pitanju strah od istine, sta ako nema nikog u mezaru.... Gore je to od bilo kakve photoshopirane slike
mozemo nagadjati sta i kako, ali to bi bio veliki problem da nema nikoga u mezaru , cak bi bilo problematicno kad bi skener pokazao da je tijelo istruhlo


U hadisu kojeg prenosi Evs ibn Evs, radijallahu anhu, da je Poslanik, sallallahu alejhi ve sellem, rekao: “Zaista je Allah zabranio zemlji da jede tijela vjerovjesnika”. Bilježi ga Ebu Davud, Nesai, Ibn Madže, Ahmed

Kao potvrda da tijela nekih šehida ne jede zemlja spominje se priča iz vremena Muavije, radijallahu anhu, kada je bio halifa muslimana kada je htio da provede vodu kroz mezarje šehida Uhuda, pa kaže Džabir, radijallahu anhu: “Kada je Muavija htio da provede izvor koji je bio u podnožju Uhuda kod mezarja šehida Uhuda, naredio je da se oglasi da svako ko ima nekog ko je tu ukopan da ga iskopa. Pa sam otišao do kabura svog oca, pa smo ih vadili a tijela su im bila svježa i savitljiva, tako da je jednom od njih lopata udarila prst pa je počela da teče krv”. Ovu predaju bilježi Malik u svom Muveteu i Ibn Abdulberr u knjigama “El-Istizkar” i “Et-Temhid” u mnogobrojnim rivajetima, kao i Ibn S’ad u “Et-Tabekat”, kaže Ibn Hadžer u “Fethul.bari” da je sened ovog rivajeta vjerodostojan.

#3206 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 12:10
by r_faruk
nece da ga skeniraju jer ce se ljudi zajebavati..... sasvim validan argument, pa i ako se budu zajebavali, naravno-kamenovanje do smrti.....
nece da ga skeneriaju jer je istruo kao i svaki les koji istrune ako se ne tretira!!! ja da sam ubijedjen kao ti, ne da bih ga skenirao no bi lopatu uzeo i otis'o kopat..... da pokazem nevjernicima bradu dugu tries' metara i mirisljavo tijelo

#3207 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 12:10
by zforumas
Predajem se Smrle. Nisam ti dorastao. :thumbup:

#3208 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 12:20
by Dope_Man
Zna se vrlo dobro kako i zasto se tijelo raspada, te koji uvjeti ubrzavaju/usporavaju raspadanje tijela. A eto idealnog izazova muslimanskom svijetu.. pokazu brata Muhameda, netaknutog i analizom potvrdjeno da nije tijelo ni na koji nacin prezervirano, vec je samo mrtvo stavljeno u kovceg, i sam papa ce preci na islam kad to vidi.

Al ne.. sva ta cuda se moraju kriti kao sto zmija krije nego.. hint: zmija nema noge.

Inace, valjda si otvorio gore link o onom lami, ako ti Smrle ono nije dokaz da je Budizam jedini ispravan put, ne znam sta jeste. Budisti ga bar s ponosom pokazuju, dok muslimani kriju Muhu kao gore spomenuta zmija.

#3209 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 12:30
by Smrcak15
Dope_Man wrote:Zna se vrlo dobro kako i zasto se tijelo raspada, te koji uvjeti ubrzavaju/usporavaju raspadanje tijela. A eto idealnog izazova muslimanskom svijetu.. pokazu brata Muhameda, netaknutog i analizom potvrdjeno da nije tijelo ni na koji nacin prezervirano, vec je samo mrtvo stavljeno u kovceg, i sam papa ce preci na islam kad to vidi.

Al ne.. sva ta cuda se moraju kriti kao sto zmija krije nego.. hint: zmija nema noge.

Inace, valjda si otvorio gore link o onom lami, ako ti Smrle ono nije dokaz da je Budizam jedini ispravan put, ne znam sta jeste. Budisti ga bar s ponosom pokazuju, dok muslimani kriju Muhu kao gore spomenuta zmija.
ma nebi ti vjerovao nista druze, nego bi ti izgovor bio, ma to su oni nekog drugog tek umrlog covjeka stavili tu i predstavili ga kao muhammeda.

Nema tebi lijeka po pitanju vjerovanja, dok se vatra dzehenemska ne okusi , nema ni vjerovanja :thumbup:

#3210 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 12:36
by HardcoreMX
HAVANA wrote:I to sve devera onaj velicanstveni? Pored toga sto jos smislja kako ce me kaznit jer sam spuco podravkinu jetrenu i zalio pivom.Gigant.Valja to sve stic.
Prvo će te kazniti zakon neke uredjenije države..
Het Wetboek van Strafrecht regelt in artikel de strafbaarheid van openbare dronkenschap. Artikel (externe link) regelt de strafbaarheid van dronkenschap als er sprake is van verstoring van de openbare orde. De politie treedt op tegen openbare dronkenschap, al dan niet in relatie tot de verstoring van de openbare orde...

#3211 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 12:45
by HAVANA
Jongen,ik ben 47 jaar oud.Ik drink niet op straat.Ik drink thuis,of in caffe... :lol:

#3212 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 12:50
by Dope_Man
Pa eto ti Smle ''zivi'' dokaz, lama umro 1927. godine, a i dan danas ziv, ni dlake sa glave mu nisu opale. Ne znam za tebe, ali namaste i ja odoh meditirati.

#3213 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 13:03
by HardcoreMX
HAVANA wrote:Jongen,ik ben 47 jaar oud.Ik drink niet op straat.Ik drink thuis,of in caffe... :lol:
Ik geloof dat u en dat je de echtgenoot van koningin :lol:
Egal,eine Verwarnung/strafe kriegst du sowieso(zumindestens in D)...in der nl...
De straf die men krijgt bij het gebruik van alcohol in het verkeer hangt af van:
de hoeveelheid alcohol die je gedronken hebt (je promillage)
het aantal jaren dat je een rijbewijs hebt...Vanaf 1,3 promille vindt wel strafvervolging plaats en kan de officier van justitie naast een boete nog andere straffen opleggen zoals een rijontzegging of zelfs gevangenisstraf. Een en ander is afhankelijk van de hoogte van het promillage. Heb je net je rijbewijs, dan zijn de straffen strenger....

#3214 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 13:05
by HAVANA
Jongen,als ik drink,zoiets doe ik niet.Er zijn genoeg taxi bedrijven. :D

#3215 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 13:06
by zforumas
Daj pisite na arapskom da vas ceo svet razume

#3216 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 13:08
by HAVANA
الصبي، إذا كنت تشرب، شيء أقوم به الشركات ما يكفي من سيارات الأجرة

#3217 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 13:09
by HAVANA
I dokle smo? Usmrdi li se il miruhi ?

#3218 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 13:11
by zforumas
Tako brate...

ma ja sam haman sve na nevjernike nailazio. I to haman sve neki zestoki nevjernici, obzirom da smrde na kilometar

#3219 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 13:12
by belfy
ja vidim da se pise o alkoholu i da Havanu taksi vozi kad popije. ostalo nisam skontao, a mrsko mi translator gledati...

#3220 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 13:14
by zforumas
belfy wrote:ja vidim da se pise o alkoholu i da Havanu taksi vozi kad popije. ostalo nisam skontao, a mrsko mi translator gledati...
Ma ovo ti je k'o njemacki pa hajd..al' kontam da nas vise razumije arapski :lol: :lol: :lol:

#3221 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 13:38
by beni-bu-man
zforumas wrote:Tako brate...

ma ja sam haman sve na nevjernike nailazio. I to haman sve neki zestoki nevjernici, obzirom da smrde na kilometar
ko ja se tusiro sinoc :-)

#3222 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 13:56
by zforumas
beni-bu-man wrote:
zforumas wrote:Tako brate...

ma ja sam haman sve na nevjernike nailazio. I to haman sve neki zestoki nevjernici, obzirom da smrde na kilometar
ko ja se tusiro sinoc :-)
Nisi jos dovoljno mrtav

#3223 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 14:17
by Raigor Stonehoof
O alah je stvarno mocan :D

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#3224 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 14:24
by HAVANA
I jos tost sa isusom i gricnes uzinu.

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#3225 Re: Ateizam

Posted: 03/04/2017 14:26
by HAVANA
Ima i ovaj na drugoj strani svijeta.Al mi malo na lemija iz motorheada baca. :mastakazes:

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