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megaman4 wrote:

ultima_palabra wrote:

megaman4 wrote:Vrijeme je da se komunizma i kod nas proglasi nakaradnom i zločinačkom ideologijom, što je i bio...milion ljudi je ubijeno u tzv. SFRJ...

Jel tebi dobro?

šta ti nije jasno? SDP=SKBiH....nigdje ovdje nema socijaldemokratije, nego se furaju na komunizam...

dobro im je Duraković rekao, da će SDP biti uskoro sahranjen...

više su štete oni napravili za ove skoro tri godine nego SDA...toliko

vee-jay wrote:

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Divi ovog Ljiljana

Tito

Prpa.ba wrote:Dokle se doslo sa famoznom rekonstrukcijom SDP-a "od baze pa navise"?

Basvod wrote:

vee-jay wrote:

Mastermind30 wrote:

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Divi ovog Ljiljana

Tito

Kad se Tito ovako slikao, obicno bi u pozadini bila nova fabrika i par stotina, hiljada veselih buducih radnika. Ovaj trbuskasti pionir sa slike iza sebe ima jedan svecano otvoreni semafor u Zenici i pogodno ime potrebno jednoj prevazidjenoj ideologiji. Da je ko sto nije i da njemu i slicnim nije upala kasika u med, sad bi Sveto negdje na pijaci prodavao krompir. Ne bi imao kome glumiti klovna.

kamen spoticanja wrote: Taj semafor je srusen u radi izgradnje kruzne raskrnice u okviru projekta izgradnje GGM
Dakle ni to

vee-jay wrote:mozel' link za clanak pa da znamo kako da reagujemo? ili ce za nas da razmisljaju drugi a mi da glavama klimamo. osim toga: koji bh akademici u usa?

Syria shows we still don’t mean ‘never again’

By Ahmet Davutoglu and Zlatko Lagumdzija,August 01, 2013


Ahmet Davutoglu is Turkey’s minister of foreign affairs. Zlatko Lagumdzija is deputy prime minister and foreign minister of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Eighteen years ago this summer, in a town called Srebrenica, in eastern Bosnia and Herzegovina, the world witnessed the murder of approximately 8,000 Bosnian men and boys and the forced deportation of nearly 30,000 women from their land. Thus Srebrenica became a byword for not only the brutality of the three-year conflict in the former Yugoslavia but also of humanity at its most evil and depraved.

Unlike many organisms, humans are capable of learning from their mistakes. Srebrenica was one tragic mistake with a big lesson.

Yet 18 years after the atrocities of Srebrenica and the trauma of Bosnia and Herzegovina, the worst humanitarian calamity of the 21st century is unfolding in Syria. In another place and another time, we are again seeing a mass tragedy. That which the world had pledged would “never again” occur is playing out once more.

After three years of war in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the death toll was more than 300,000 and the number of refugees reached 1.3 million. In Syria, more than 100,000 people have been killed since a peaceful uprising began in 2011. More than 7 million Syrians need humanitarian assistance; 4 million are internally displaced and 1.4 million are seeking refuge in neighboring countries.

In 1992, innocent people were killed on Vase Miskina Street in Sarajevo while waiting in line to get bread. In 2013, the innocent residents of Aleppo and Homs are the targets of savagery while they try to take bread to their homes.

In Bosnia and Herzegovina, civilians were attacked with heavy weapons and artillery. In Syria, civilians have dodged ballistic missiles fired on civilian areas. And it has been confirmed that the Syrian regime has used chemical weapons against its own people.

Ethnic cleansing was the sickening theme of the conflict in Bosnia and Herzegovina. In Syria, the regime ruthlessly, and apparently without shame, has massacred hundreds of civilians before the world.

Why is the global community — so many people of peace and compassion — allowing this to happen again? The international doctrine of “responsibility to protect” was crafted in response to the tragedy of Bosnia and Herzegovina. If the responsibility to protect does not apply to Syria, where does it apply?

How long will the U.N. Security Council continue to look the other way while such carnage goes on in full view? How long will the international community hold back while an estimated 5,000 Syrians lose their lives every month at the hands of the regime in Damascus? Is the world waiting for yet another apology by a U.N. secretary general for inaction in the face of a man-made humanitarian catastrophe — as happened in Bosnia and Herzegovina?

We are confident that the people of Syria will eventually free themselves from the shackles of this bloody regime. The will of the people always wins out. After decades of repression, they wish to live in a country where their will prevails, rather than that of autocrats; where the sovereignty belongs in its entirety to the people, who seek to enjoy universal values such as democracy, human rights, the rule of law and good governance that they have been denied.

The valiant men and women of Syria will long be remembered for their gallantry and the noble struggle they are staging for this vision.

In the 21st century, there can be no place for ruthless oppression with a medieval mentality, certainly not when the lessons of history are there to guide us.

Two decades after the horrors of Bosnia and Herzegovina, should the price for owning your freedom still be so high?

When the next generations look back on Syria’s revolution, they will judge the actions of each individual. It is time for all Syrians and the international community to take their places on the right side of history.

After all, history will keep repeating itself if no one learns from its lessons.

julisiz es grant wrote:Ispade da branim Lagumdžiju, što mi nikada ne bi palo na pamet, ali mislim da ovdje hoće da se kaže da je Srebrenica bila tragična greška međunarodne zajednice, a ne počinitelja zločina. A ona to jeste bila. Genocid su počinili Srbi, a ne međunarodna zajednica. Ona je samo svojom glupošću i nečinjenjem doprinijela da se on desi.

Banksy wrote:

vee-jay wrote:mozel' link za clanak pa da znamo kako da reagujemo? ili ce za nas da razmisljaju drugi a mi da glavama klimamo. osim toga: koji bh akademici u usa?

Koji god, u pravu su.

Syria shows we still don’t mean ‘never again’

By Ahmet Davutoglu and Zlatko Lagumdzija,August 01, 2013


Ahmet Davutoglu is Turkey’s minister of foreign affairs. Zlatko Lagumdzija is deputy prime minister and foreign minister of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Eighteen years ago this summer, in a town called Srebrenica, in eastern Bosnia and Herzegovina, the world witnessed the murder of approximately 8,000 Bosnian men and boys and the forced deportation of nearly 30,000 women from their land. Thus Srebrenica became a byword for not only the brutality of the three-year conflict in the former Yugoslavia but also of humanity at its most evil and depraved.

Unlike many organisms, humans are capable of learning from their mistakes. Srebrenica was one tragic mistake with a big lesson.

Yet 18 years after the atrocities of Srebrenica and the trauma of Bosnia and Herzegovina, the worst humanitarian calamity of the 21st century is unfolding in Syria. In another place and another time, we are again seeing a mass tragedy. That which the world had pledged would “never again” occur is playing out once more.

After three years of war in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the death toll was more than 300,000 and the number of refugees reached 1.3 million. In Syria, more than 100,000 people have been killed since a peaceful uprising began in 2011. More than 7 million Syrians need humanitarian assistance; 4 million are internally displaced and 1.4 million are seeking refuge in neighboring countries.

In 1992, innocent people were killed on Vase Miskina Street in Sarajevo while waiting in line to get bread. In 2013, the innocent residents of Aleppo and Homs are the targets of savagery while they try to take bread to their homes.

In Bosnia and Herzegovina, civilians were attacked with heavy weapons and artillery. In Syria, civilians have dodged ballistic missiles fired on civilian areas. And it has been confirmed that the Syrian regime has used chemical weapons against its own people.

Ethnic cleansing was the sickening theme of the conflict in Bosnia and Herzegovina. In Syria, the regime ruthlessly, and apparently without shame, has massacred hundreds of civilians before the world.

Why is the global community — so many people of peace and compassion — allowing this to happen again? The international doctrine of “responsibility to protect” was crafted in response to the tragedy of Bosnia and Herzegovina. If the responsibility to protect does not apply to Syria, where does it apply?

How long will the U.N. Security Council continue to look the other way while such carnage goes on in full view? How long will the international community hold back while an estimated 5,000 Syrians lose their lives every month at the hands of the regime in Damascus? Is the world waiting for yet another apology by a U.N. secretary general for inaction in the face of a man-made humanitarian catastrophe — as happened in Bosnia and Herzegovina?

We are confident that the people of Syria will eventually free themselves from the shackles of this bloody regime. The will of the people always wins out. After decades of repression, they wish to live in a country where their will prevails, rather than that of autocrats; where the sovereignty belongs in its entirety to the people, who seek to enjoy universal values such as democracy, human rights, the rule of law and good governance that they have been denied.

The valiant men and women of Syria will long be remembered for their gallantry and the noble struggle they are staging for this vision.

In the 21st century, there can be no place for ruthless oppression with a medieval mentality, certainly not when the lessons of history are there to guide us.

Two decades after the horrors of Bosnia and Herzegovina, should the price for owning your freedom still be so high?

When the next generations look back on Syria’s revolution, they will judge the actions of each individual. It is time for all Syrians and the international community to take their places on the right side of history.

After all, history will keep repeating itself if no one learns from its lessons.

vee-jay wrote: u pravu su ali u q.

niti sam studirao politicke znanosti niti se aktivno bavim politikom ali znam da je u tekstu koji je namjenjen Siriji, u kojem se BiH spominje kao paralela, u jednoj americkoj (jos uz to, jednoj od najznacanjnijih) novini pominjanje rijeci "genocid" tako jebeno amaterski da je ravno politickom samoubistvu.

Havatar wrote: Procjene svjetskih strucnjaka su da je milion ljudi ubijeno od strane komunista u Jugoslaviji

Zlatko Lagumdžija wrote:-Šalju mi tuđe fakture-
http://www.sdp.ba/novost/19896/SDP-nece ... derizacija

Upitan kako prihvata činjenicu da ga u posljednje vrijeme tretiraju kao najodgovornijeg za prilike u BiH jer je 2010. godine njegov SDP imao najveće povjerenje građana, Lagumdžija odgovora kako su ga roditelji učili da u situaciji kada ga optužuju sam sebi postavi pitanje je li istina ono što mu stavljaju na teret, te da na svaku laž odgovori istinom.

''Ne kažem da nekada ne napravim grešku, ali većina stvari koje se fakturišu meni su ustvari nečije fakture iz ranijih vremena. Istovremeno, takve optužbe nekome ko je dio vlasti od prije nešto više od dvije godine su, zapravo, ilustracija onoga zbog čega ljudi politiku nazivaju "prljavom". Drugi korak koji sam naučio od jednog pametnog čovjeka je da vidim ko mi to govori, a onda da sebi pokušam dati odgovor na pitanje zbog čega to radi? Ne smatram da će SDP biti kažnjen na izborima. Čak šta više, očekujem vrlo dobar rezultat. Prvo, sve veći broj ljudi prepoznaje nadljudske napore koje ulažemo da država funkcioniše u uslovima kada je sebičnom voljom pojedinaca sve blokirano. Čak i u takvim uslovima postižemo zavidne rezultate. Navest ću samo jedan primjer. Mi ćemo na kraju mandata imati preko 100 kilometara izgrađenog autoputa, što je duplo više od onoga što smo zatekli! Samo zamislite koliko bi kilometara autoputa imali da vlast funkcioniše bez blokada. Mi njih nismo blokirali na ovim poslovima punih 15 godina, a oni, bivša vlast, nisu uspjeli napraviti više od 30 kilometara. Slično je u svim oblastima'', odgovorio je Lagumdžija na optužbe.

Prpa.ba wrote:Oglasio se veliki Vozd i Duhovni vodja rahmetli partijice: "SDP neće biti kažnjen na izborima!"

Pitanje je samo, kolika ce kazna biti. Sa 285.000 glasova na 110.000 ili jos manje? Steta sto im je SDA dozvolila enormno uhljebljivanje, da ih je Suljo i tu preveslao, zijanili bi jos nekih ekstra 10-20 hiljada glasova na osnovu budzetske sise, pa bi se marvu svelo na nivo koji zasluzuju, SBiH ili HDZ90.

Evo i kako se "pet politika" (sjeca li se jos ko toga? ) odrazilo u praksi:

31.12.2010, nezaposlenih 45,39%
31.12.2011, nezaposlenih 45,71%
31.12.2012, nezaposlenih 46,80%

.... predstavljaju neodgovorno razbacivanje brojem poginulih, temom koja bi morala biti izvan i iznad dnevnopolitičkih manipulacija: one su znak nepoštovanja javnosti i posebno nepoštovanja ubijenih u ratu devedesetih. Oni zaslužuju poštovanje u svojoj ljudskoj individualnosti, i dječaci i starci likvidirani u Srebrenici – i djevojčica „stara“ samo dva dana među desetinama spaljenih u Višegradu kojoj još nisu stigli da daju ime (a prezivala se isto kao i autor ovog teksta) – i svako pojedinačno od više od deset hiljada ubijenih u troipogodišnjoj opsadi Sarajeva, i za njih je dvadeset godina kasnije sasvim svejedeno je li bilo 100.000 ili 300.000 poginulih. Oni u činjenici i okolnostima smrti zaslužuju samo sjećanje, poštovanje i ništa više. I pogotovu se njihovom žrtvom ne smiju igrati nosioci najviših javnih funkcija bilo da neljudski umanjuju ili neodgovorno uveličavaju broj ubijenih kao da je 100.000 malo ili nedovoljno.