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seiko22 wrote:ima jos istine.....................

1. VOJO I IVO KAO NAPADAJU – HARE I ŽELJA NAS KAO BRANE

SARAJEVO, 28.10.2007. Vecerašnje "iznenadno" potpisivanje Deklaracije o reformi policije u Mostaru (Silajdžic-Tihic-Ivanic-Dodik-Covic-Ljubic) je nažalost daleko od puke formalnosti kakvom je udbaški mediji pokušavaju predociti. Silajdžic jem naime, prije tri dana u Avazu "usput" u jednom sasvim nezapaženom clanku pripomenuo da se "intenzivno radi na novom dogovoru o policiji koji bi trebao biti usvojen prije kraja oktobra".

Pažljivim citanjem Mostarske deklaracije vidi se da je to taj pripremani akt: ustvari Protokol Dodik-Silajdžic s tim što sad ima šest umjesto samo dva potpisa (evo ga i Tihic "leg'o na rudu" - da nije komicno možda bi bilo i žalosno) kojim se reforma policije ostavlja za - dogovor oko ustava. Dakle, to je UDBIN prljavi plan: podciniti reformu policije reformi Ustava (koja pocinje 30 dana od danas) kao neformalnom dogovoru politicara umjesto - tri evropska principa! Deklaracija je potom "ponudjena OHR-u na prihvatanje". Spomenimo da je jutros vec najavljeno da su se navodno "pravni eksperti OHR-a i RS-a usaglasili (šta god to znacilo) da ce sutra finalizirati sve nesporazume".


Naravno, kao šlag na tortu za sutra (ponedjeljak) je najavljeno da ce se cijela "RS" dici na noge: sve ce stati, potpuna paraliza, demonstracije, štrajkovi, okupljanja, akademije, marševi, povici, peticije, ukratko - DEŠAVANJE NARODA (samo barikade fale, ali znaju da bi ovaj put fasovali pa ne smiju). Nakon što "narod, bre, kaže svoje", opet ce se "naši" kao prepasti rata, a Lajcaka ce pritisnuti da "poštuje volju naroda". Cirkuska predstava se tako bliži kraju. Ako EU nasjedne na ovaj akt šestorice udbaša, to je isto kao da su nasjeli i na onaj od prije 2 sedmice kad su ga potpisala samo - dvojica udbaša. Smislili izdajnici da su šest nula i nešto halabuke u vidu "dešavanja naroda", jace od - dva nula.

Sada su se razjasnila i potpuno nelogicna medijska šupljiranja proteklih dana (koje je Lajcak sasvim ispravno nazvao - smiješnim) oko Sanaderovih odnosno Koštunicinih navodnih ataka na suverenitet BiH. Za razliku od Lajcaka koji razmišlja logicno, "naši" su "napade" dvojice grotesknih lidera s kojima se njihovi vlastiti narodi uveliko šprdaju, shvatili - SMRTNO OZBILJNO!? Naravno, bila je to tek slabo izrežirana šansa za Hareta i Željka da opet prikace znackicu patriotizma, a Bosanci i Hercegovci još jednom progutaju pricu dok ovi besramni izdajnici OBAVE POSAO. Naime, da je Komšic danas uistinu patriota, on ne bi bez ijedne rijeci protesta (vidimo da je na rijecima odlican!), a kamoli akcije (protjerivanje srbijanskog ambasadora je u njegovoj i nadležnosti "zaboravnog" Silajdžica) pustio da PRAVI PATRIOTA Tuzlak Jurišic trune u srbijanskim kazamatima, zar ne?

Danas svako dijete zna da je upravo Koštunica glavni šef Službe državne bezbednosti (UDBE), kao i da su SDA i HDZ ispljuvci istog RAM plana komadanja Republike Bosne i Hercegovine, koji je kako General Sefer Halilovic rece još uvijek na sceni. Ova je situacija identicna insceniranom "ratu" izmedju Slovenije i JNA 1991, kad je na tadašnjoj YUTEL televiziji vojnik JNA (inace Bosanac koji je poslije tragicno izgubio život) s puškom u ruci zadihanom novinaru u kameru izjavio "Ma ovo ti je ba... rat ko fol... mi ko nešta napadamo.... a oni se onda, ko fol nešto... brane!" Ocito, UDBA ima najdužu historiju (iskustvo) insceniranja "sukoba" na Balkanu

seiko22 wrote:

Sto bi prvo bilo fino znati koga citiras ?????

i, zaista zar je to bitnoza jos vise istine!!

seiko22 wrote:ima jos istine.....................

1. VOJO I IVO KAO NAPADAJU – HARE I ŽELJA NAS KAO BRANE

SARAJEVO, 28.10.2007. Vecerašnje "iznenadno" potpisivanje Deklaracije o reformi policije u Mostaru (Silajdžic-Tihic-Ivanic-Dodik-Covic-Ljubic) je nažalost daleko od puke formalnosti kakvom je udbaški mediji pokušavaju predociti. Silajdžic jem naime, prije tri dana u Avazu "usput" u jednom sasvim nezapaženom clanku pripomenuo da se "intenzivno radi na novom dogovoru o policiji koji bi trebao biti usvojen prije kraja oktobra".

Pažljivim citanjem Mostarske deklaracije vidi se da je to taj pripremani akt: ustvari Protokol Dodik-Silajdžic s tim što sad ima šest umjesto samo dva potpisa (evo ga i Tihic "leg'o na rudu" - da nije komicno možda bi bilo i žalosno) kojim se reforma policije ostavlja za - dogovor oko ustava. Dakle, to je UDBIN prljavi plan: podciniti reformu policije reformi Ustava (koja pocinje 30 dana od danas) kao neformalnom dogovoru politicara umjesto - tri evropska principa! Deklaracija je potom "ponudjena OHR-u na prihvatanje". Spomenimo da je jutros vec najavljeno da su se navodno "pravni eksperti OHR-a i RS-a usaglasili (šta god to znacilo) da ce sutra finalizirati sve nesporazume".


Naravno, kao šlag na tortu za sutra (ponedjeljak) je najavljeno da ce se cijela "RS" dici na noge: sve ce stati, potpuna paraliza, demonstracije, štrajkovi, okupljanja, akademije, marševi, povici, peticije, ukratko - DEŠAVANJE NARODA (samo barikade fale, ali znaju da bi ovaj put fasovali pa ne smiju). Nakon što "narod, bre, kaže svoje", opet ce se "naši" kao prepasti rata, a Lajcaka ce pritisnuti da "poštuje volju naroda". Cirkuska predstava se tako bliži kraju. Ako EU nasjedne na ovaj akt šestorice udbaša, to je isto kao da su nasjeli i na onaj od prije 2 sedmice kad su ga potpisala samo - dvojica udbaša. Smislili izdajnici da su šest nula i nešto halabuke u vidu "dešavanja naroda", jace od - dva nula.

Sada su se razjasnila i potpuno nelogicna medijska šupljiranja proteklih dana (koje je Lajcak sasvim ispravno nazvao - smiješnim) oko Sanaderovih odnosno Koštunicinih navodnih ataka na suverenitet BiH. Za razliku od Lajcaka koji razmišlja logicno, "naši" su "napade" dvojice grotesknih lidera s kojima se njihovi vlastiti narodi uveliko šprdaju, shvatili - SMRTNO OZBILJNO!? Naravno, bila je to tek slabo izrežirana šansa za Hareta i Željka da opet prikace znackicu patriotizma, a Bosanci i Hercegovci još jednom progutaju pricu dok ovi besramni izdajnici OBAVE POSAO. Naime, da je Komšic danas uistinu patriota, on ne bi bez ijedne rijeci protesta (vidimo da je na rijecima odlican!), a kamoli akcije (protjerivanje srbijanskog ambasadora je u njegovoj i nadležnosti "zaboravnog" Silajdžica) pustio da PRAVI PATRIOTA Tuzlak Jurišic trune u srbijanskim kazamatima, zar ne?

Danas svako dijete zna da je upravo Koštunica glavni šef Službe državne bezbednosti (UDBE), kao i da su SDA i HDZ ispljuvci istog RAM plana komadanja Republike Bosne i Hercegovine, koji je kako General Sefer Halilovic rece još uvijek na sceni. Ova je situacija identicna insceniranom "ratu" izmedju Slovenije i JNA 1991, kad je na tadašnjoj YUTEL televiziji vojnik JNA (inace Bosanac koji je poslije tragicno izgubio život) s puškom u ruci zadihanom novinaru u kameru izjavio "Ma ovo ti je ba... rat ko fol... mi ko nešta napadamo.... a oni se onda, ko fol nešto... brane!" Ocito, UDBA ima najdužu historiju (iskustvo) insceniranja "sukoba" na Balkanu

Znas Seiko22 u trazenju dlake u jajetu Komsicu da bi opravdao Silajdzica ili bosnajcke lidere koji bi guzice dali za fotelju, trebas malo da skontas u cijoj je to nadleznosti.
Protjerivanje ambasadora je korak koji se radi tek prije nego sto rat pocne, tj. kada oruzje vec dobro zazvecka. Ko god je napisao ovo je jednostavno

seiko22 wrote:

Znas Seiko22 u trazenju dlake u jajetu Komsicu da bi opravdao Silajdzica ili bosnajcke lidere koji bi guzice dali za fotelju, trebas malo da skontas u cijoj je to nadleznosti.
Protjerivanje ambasadora je korak koji se radi tek prije nego sto rat pocne, tj. kada oruzje vec dobro zazvecka. Ko god je napisao ovo je jednostavno

ho,ho,ho, pa bolan, kad cete prestati u svakom komentaru ili diskusiji gledati prvenstveno licnosti, tj. navijati za "svoje" time sto cete "svakome drugom implementirati da on brani svoje"!! Pa, bolan, napisao sam vise nego jednom i ovo na ovom istom mjestu :"Sto Dodo nije manje cetnik, pa da mozemo glasati za njega!" - pa valjda i ovo "podrzava Silajdzica"!!
Opet, pa bolan, ako citas moje komentare, (i citate ) primjetices da je glavna tema REPUBLIKA BOSNA i HERCEGOVINA, a ne neki Silajdzic, ili Komsic ( a pogotovo je Zlaja nebitna cinjenica u mojjim komentarima )
Isti ovaj komentator, je cak 1992 godine, sa pojavom prvih geografskih mapa, sa idejom o podjeli Bosne, (kad si ti cek'o da ti adzo-Aljo "donese boba" ) osudio i javno progovorio protiv A.I. i IZDAJE REPUBLIKE BOSNE i HERCEGOVINE !!
Nazalost, mnogi kao ti, i tih dana su ovoga komentatora i njemu slicne, umalo razapeli "k'o Hrista" braneci svoga "velikana" i IZDAJU REPUBLIKE!!
A, za Komsica, pa deder, Allaha ti, objasni mi, kako to on potpisa i odobri pravo SPC-u da djeluje k'o drzava, na podrucju BiH, a ti i tebi slicni, ne primijetiste da je bilo sta "dlaka u jajetu"??
Pokusava on da "ispliva iz kala" al vjeruj mi, "vehad je jos, k'o botanija"!!

Alfa159 wrote:Pa mislim konacno!!!!!!!
Sa neko onoj mrcini iz Srbije ogovori rijecnikom koji jedini razumije.
" Dobices i po prstima i po nosu"!!!!!!!!! UUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Kvalitet.
Samo cu reci kvalitet svaka mu cast, do duse malo ne diplomatski, ali kao sto rekoh sa onakvim primjerkom SELJACINE ne ide fino.

PS samo steta sto Komsic nije pitar:)))))

JokTiSi wrote:A zasto nije htio poljubiti papin prsten??? Ili jos bolje njegova izjava poslije toga "Nije ga poljubio ni George Bush". Samo prizeman nivo i bahatost izlaze iz tog covjeka...

Svaki daljni komentar je suvisan

1. Bosnian Politicians are Trying to “Score” a Green Light for European Integration

This week Bosnian politicians have announced yet another agreement on police reform, which is a condition for continuing the EU integration process. Yet, this agreement is nothing more than a charade, and is mainly designed to score empty points with the disillusioned Bosnian people -- points that a newspaper headline of a conditional green light from Europe would provide. Namely, there is nothing new or different here than their proposals from the past. Indeed, they make great efforts not to specifically promise to give up their local and corrupt police forces, just to superficially present them as “multi-ethnic” and “functional” without giving any hint about how that would be accomplished – probably because they have no intention of accomplishing it.

This is reminiscent of lazy and incompetent college students, who take the same exam many times over without ever properly learning or understanding the subject, in the hope that the professor will eventually get tired of seeing them and pass them.

By the admission of the politicians who signed this agreement (Silajdzic, Dodik, Ivanic, Tihic, Covic, Ljubic), none of the “contentious” changes were agreed on, or even discussed. Those important changes are left for future talks on some new constitutional reform agreement. They seem to simply be taking a shot at the outside chance that the European Commission will bite and give that conditional approval which would enable them to buy some more time. Perhaps they are also hoping that someday Europe may get tired of Bosnia, or the European policy makers may be changed by some future election, so that the current state of police forces in Bosnia might finally become acceptable for EU integration.

The European Commission had rejected previous police reform proposals, which were not much different from this one, and we hope that it will similarly continue to insist on the three principles in this case. The people of Bosnia and Herzegovina do not need to simply join the EU. Rather, they need the reforms that have so far been mandated as conditions for joining, including police reform that fully implements the three principles. Giving a green light without true progress on reform would send the wrong message.


The following is our earlier analysis of a rejected proposal for police reform. We are including it as a summary of the key points and past events on police reform.






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2. This is not Police Reform, it is Destruction of Bosnian Statehood



Analysis of the Dodik-Silajdzic Protocol Regarding Police Reform.

The Dodik-Silajdzic police reform agreement proclaims to respect EU's three principles for police reform. Let us consider whether that is really the case.

Section V: "The territorial jurisdiction of regional centers will coincide with the territorial jurisdictions of the current regional, and cantonal prosecutorial districts within the entities and the Brcko District." Well that is clearly a violation of the principle requiring functional police regions. This formulation respects the entity line, which is a very non-functional construct. For example, Sarajevo, and East Sarajevo would be parts of different police regions, even though the entity line even passes right through residential buildings in the Dobrinja neighborhood of the city.


Section XII defines the budget, which is to be appropriated by a decision of the Parliament, but then it is divided into lower levels that are supposed to actually decide how to use the money. That is a clear violation of the principle of budgeting on the state level, because that principle is intended to put the state in control of the money, which means control of how money is spent, and not simply control of where the money comes from.

This way, all the abuses by the entity police from before can continue because the state will still not be able to use the power of the purse to set specific plans for the local police forces to follow.

Section VII defines a "council of directors" at the state level. That council is only a body that manages cooperation between the entity police forces. As proposed, it is not a body that holds power over the entity police forces, but one that derives its powers only from the consent of the entities. In addition to giving it only coordination type role, Silajdzic and Dodik also propose that decisions within it are made based on entity and ethnic consensus. The RS and FBiH, and Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks can all put in a veto on any decision and completely paralyze this body. Therefore, all the ethnic and entity politics have to be considered in order to make any minor decision having to do with the simple coordination and cooperation of the two entity police forces. That has to be a violation of the principle of police that is independent of politics. And it is certain that such a police structure would not be functional at the state level.


Furthermore, there are also entity level police councils (Section IX) that are "independent". They are chosen by entity parliaments, so they are really not independent of entity politics. They are instead independent of the state, and because the RS parliament is dominated by a single ethnic group, those councils are also not burdened by the consensus principle. Silajdzic and Dodik have created functional entity police forces, and dysfunctional state-level coordination between those police forces.

This agreement violates the spirit and the letter of the three principles mandated by the EU. If the EU approves this, it will pull into its borders all the current problems with a police force that has been judged as having committed genocide, and represents institutional corruption and abuse of human rights.

But for the Bosnian people, this agreement holds many more poison pills even beyond the violation of the three principles. For example, immediately after signing this agreement, Silajdzic made a speech in which he touted the fact that the agreement ensures representation by all ethnic groups at all local levels of the police, proportionate to the 1991 census - before the ethnic cleansing and genocide changed the ethnic map of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Yet that provision is already in effect, so this does not present any progress. In fact, it is a poison pill, because the language of the provision in question, Section II.7, states that the most recent census is always to be used - not explicitly 1991 as before. In about three years, when a new census is carried out, the effects of the genocide on the ground will become official, and the police ranks will have to reflect that "reality". Many police officers will surely lose their jobs at that time.

Silajdzic has no shame. In a speech to his party immediately subsequent to signing this agreement, he blamed it on the international community. He framed it as not his own choice or fault, but as a dictate made to help the RS by some powerful international entity, that he commonly refers to as "the world" and leaves his audience always to guess at whether that means the US, the EU, or maybe High Representative Lajcak. However, the facts are that the EU has asked for the three principles, which are good for Bosnia and Herzegovina. In fact, that insistence by the EU is the only reason why we have police reform at all - because a common state level police force would be better suited to correct all the abuses by the entity police forces, which are controlled by ethnically clean entity parliaments.

So the EU is not pressuring him into an agreement that preserves the RS police. On the contrary, EU's pressure is on the RS to give up power, if they want to be accepted in EU, not on the BiH. Even Lajcak's recent proposal was much better than this. It is appropriate also to mention the US House draft resolution proposed by Rep. Chris Smith (NJ) that calls for the dismantlement of the RS police which was declared by the ICJ to have perpetrated genocide in Bosnia. In fact, it is likely that the timing of this deal by Dodik and Silajdzic is to head off this resolution.

Namely, why would the US congress bother with such a resolution, if Silajdzic is willing to consent to the RS police in the name of the state of BiH, and the Bosnian people? Yet the passing of such a resolution would expose completely his "world conspiracy" story which he has been using for years to frighten Bosnians into not questioning the existence of the RS.

reason.

seiko22 wrote:"Jeffersone", sta mislis, jel' ovo istina??????????????

1. Bosnian Politicians are Trying to “Score” a Green Light for European Integration

This week Bosnian politicians have announced yet another agreement on police reform, which is a condition for continuing the EU integration process. Yet, this agreement is nothing more than a charade, and is mainly designed to score empty points with the disillusioned Bosnian people -- points that a newspaper headline of a conditional green light from Europe would provide. Namely, there is nothing new or different here than their proposals from the past. Indeed, they make great efforts not to specifically promise to give up their local and corrupt police forces, just to superficially present them as “multi-ethnic” and “functional” without giving any hint about how that would be accomplished – probably because they have no intention of accomplishing it.

This is reminiscent of lazy and incompetent college students, who take the same exam many times over without ever properly learning or understanding the subject, in the hope that the professor will eventually get tired of seeing them and pass them.

By the admission of the politicians who signed this agreement (Silajdzic, Dodik, Ivanic, Tihic, Covic, Ljubic), none of the “contentious” changes were agreed on, or even discussed. Those important changes are left for future talks on some new constitutional reform agreement. They seem to simply be taking a shot at the outside chance that the European Commission will bite and give that conditional approval which would enable them to buy some more time. Perhaps they are also hoping that someday Europe may get tired of Bosnia, or the European policy makers may be changed by some future election, so that the current state of police forces in Bosnia might finally become acceptable for EU integration.

The European Commission had rejected previous police reform proposals, which were not much different from this one, and we hope that it will similarly continue to insist on the three principles in this case. The people of Bosnia and Herzegovina do not need to simply join the EU. Rather, they need the reforms that have so far been mandated as conditions for joining, including police reform that fully implements the three principles. Giving a green light without true progress on reform would send the wrong message.


The following is our earlier analysis of a rejected proposal for police reform. We are including it as a summary of the key points and past events on police reform.






____________________________________________________________




2. This is not Police Reform, it is Destruction of Bosnian Statehood



Analysis of the Dodik-Silajdzic Protocol Regarding Police Reform.

The Dodik-Silajdzic police reform agreement proclaims to respect EU's three principles for police reform. Let us consider whether that is really the case.

Section V: "The territorial jurisdiction of regional centers will coincide with the territorial jurisdictions of the current regional, and cantonal prosecutorial districts within the entities and the Brcko District." Well that is clearly a violation of the principle requiring functional police regions. This formulation respects the entity line, which is a very non-functional construct. For example, Sarajevo, and East Sarajevo would be parts of different police regions, even though the entity line even passes right through residential buildings in the Dobrinja neighborhood of the city.


Section XII defines the budget, which is to be appropriated by a decision of the Parliament, but then it is divided into lower levels that are supposed to actually decide how to use the money. That is a clear violation of the principle of budgeting on the state level, because that principle is intended to put the state in control of the money, which means control of how money is spent, and not simply control of where the money comes from.

This way, all the abuses by the entity police from before can continue because the state will still not be able to use the power of the purse to set specific plans for the local police forces to follow.

Section VII defines a "council of directors" at the state level. That council is only a body that manages cooperation between the entity police forces. As proposed, it is not a body that holds power over the entity police forces, but one that derives its powers only from the consent of the entities. In addition to giving it only coordination type role, Silajdzic and Dodik also propose that decisions within it are made based on entity and ethnic consensus. The RS and FBiH, and Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks can all put in a veto on any decision and completely paralyze this body. Therefore, all the ethnic and entity politics have to be considered in order to make any minor decision having to do with the simple coordination and cooperation of the two entity police forces. That has to be a violation of the principle of police that is independent of politics. And it is certain that such a police structure would not be functional at the state level.


Furthermore, there are also entity level police councils (Section IX) that are "independent". They are chosen by entity parliaments, so they are really not independent of entity politics. They are instead independent of the state, and because the RS parliament is dominated by a single ethnic group, those councils are also not burdened by the consensus principle. Silajdzic and Dodik have created functional entity police forces, and dysfunctional state-level coordination between those police forces.

This agreement violates the spirit and the letter of the three principles mandated by the EU. If the EU approves this, it will pull into its borders all the current problems with a police force that has been judged as having committed genocide, and represents institutional corruption and abuse of human rights.

But for the Bosnian people, this agreement holds many more poison pills even beyond the violation of the three principles. For example, immediately after signing this agreement, Silajdzic made a speech in which he touted the fact that the agreement ensures representation by all ethnic groups at all local levels of the police, proportionate to the 1991 census - before the ethnic cleansing and genocide changed the ethnic map of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Yet that provision is already in effect, so this does not present any progress. In fact, it is a poison pill, because the language of the provision in question, Section II.7, states that the most recent census is always to be used - not explicitly 1991 as before. In about three years, when a new census is carried out, the effects of the genocide on the ground will become official, and the police ranks will have to reflect that "reality". Many police officers will surely lose their jobs at that time.

Silajdzic has no shame. In a speech to his party immediately subsequent to signing this agreement, he blamed it on the international community. He framed it as not his own choice or fault, but as a dictate made to help the RS by some powerful international entity, that he commonly refers to as "the world" and leaves his audience always to guess at whether that means the US, the EU, or maybe High Representative Lajcak. However, the facts are that the EU has asked for the three principles, which are good for Bosnia and Herzegovina. In fact, that insistence by the EU is the only reason why we have police reform at all - because a common state level police force would be better suited to correct all the abuses by the entity police forces, which are controlled by ethnically clean entity parliaments.

So the EU is not pressuring him into an agreement that preserves the RS police. On the contrary, EU's pressure is on the RS to give up power, if they want to be accepted in EU, not on the BiH. Even Lajcak's recent proposal was much better than this. It is appropriate also to mention the US House draft resolution proposed by Rep. Chris Smith (NJ) that calls for the dismantlement of the RS police which was declared by the ICJ to have perpetrated genocide in Bosnia. In fact, it is likely that the timing of this deal by Dodik and Silajdzic is to head off this resolution.

Namely, why would the US congress bother with such a resolution, if Silajdzic is willing to consent to the RS police in the name of the state of BiH, and the Bosnian people? Yet the passing of such a resolution would expose completely his "world conspiracy" story which he has been using for years to frighten Bosnians into not questioning the existence of the RS.

reason.

jefferson wrote:Druga stvar, pogrjesili su u konstataciji "lazy student"Dodik i Silajdzic ovo rade namjerno, a Tihic je tu ko krpelj.
HDZ mudro suti i muti, dok Komsic petarde baca!

in33sa wrote: Mene pitas? podrzavam.

Inace, i nas Zeljko je drzao kalasnjikov kada je njegova drzava bila napadnuta, kao i Kostunica sto ga drzi.

Ne vidim razliku.

Alfa159 wrote:Pa mislim konacno!!!!!!!
Sa neko onoj mrcini iz Srbije ogovori rijecnikom koji jedini razumije.
" Dobices i po prstima i po nosu"!!!!!!!!! UUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Kvalitet.
Samo cu reci kvalitet svaka mu cast, do duse malo ne diplomatski, ali kao sto rekoh sa onakvim primjerkom SELJACINE ne ide fino.

PS samo steta sto Komsic nije pitar:)))))

komadinamujo wrote:

in33sa wrote: Mene pitas? podrzavam.

Inace, i nas Zeljko je drzao kalasnjikov kada je njegova drzava bila napadnuta, kao i Kostunica sto ga drzi.

Ne vidim razliku.

Razlike:
Željko Komšić je državljan BiH, držao je kalašnjikov u armiji BiH, sad je predsjednik BiH. Normalom čovjeku sve to može služiti samo na čast.

Vojislav Koštunica je državljanin Srbije, držao je kalašnjikov u ruci ili kao vojnik agresorske vojske Srbije ili kao vojnik vojske republike Srpske. Prva varijanta dokazuje umiješanost vojske Srbije u rat, druga pokazuje da je vojska RS imala plačenike iz Srbije, ili dobrovoljce ili vikend četnike iz Srbije. Kako god, Koštunica je bio naoružani strani faktor na tuđoj zemlji. Sad je on predsjednik vlade zemlje koja tvrdi da nije bila agresor. Normalnom čovjeku to nikako ne može služiti na čast, ali niti biračima koji su ga izabrali.

Da kažeš da nema razlike između Dodika koji je držao kalašnjikov za ratnog zločinca Mladića i Karadžića i Željka komšića koji je držao kalašnjikov za nezločince Halilovića i Izetbegovića.. Nekako bih i progutao.

Ali ti danas prihvataš da je Koštunica pucao po BiH a sutra ćeš tvrditi da Srbija nije bila agresor.

Džaba je pisati, džaba dokazivati fakte. Nikad nećeš promijeniti mišljenje, jer pripadaš najzatrovanijoj ideologiji koja je ikad postojala na kugli zemaljskoj. Reći Fašizam za tu ideologiju je uvreda... za fašiste..

enes-s wrote:Pitali jednom beogradskog muftiju, zašto ne kritikuje srpsku vlast. Počeša se muftija po bradi i reče: ˝Paa znate, kada bi ja pljuvalo to se ne bi gledalo istim očima, kao kada neki Srbin to radi ˝.
Tako i Haris... stavio drugog. Kapiš?

enes-s wrote:Pitali jednom beogradskog muftiju, zašto ne kritikuje srpsku vlast. Počeše se muftija po bradi i reče: ˝Paa znate, kada bih ja pljuvao to se ne bi gledalo istim očima kao kada neki Srbin to radi ˝.
Tako i Haris... stavio drugog. Kapiš?

seln wrote:

enes-s wrote:Pitali jednom beogradskog muftiju, zašto ne kritikuje srpsku vlast. Počeša se muftija po bradi i reče: ˝Paa znate, kada bi ja pljuvalo to se ne bi gledalo istim očima, kao kada neki Srbin to radi ˝.
Tako i Haris... stavio drugog. Kapiš?

Daaaa....Zeljko Komsic, zlatni ljiljan, uspjesan diplomata i komunalni politicar, samo je marioneta u rukama jednog podrumasa koji do danas ne moze pokazati ni jedan uspjeh.
Ovo me podsjeca na nijemce koji su jos u aprilu '45 vjerovali kako firer ima tajno oruzje koje ce sjebati dusmane. Tako i haretovci....sve ce to hare povratiti..