Bundesliga

[simonese]

Bayern od sada treba igrati svaku sa drugom postavom da ostalim pruzi neku sansu.

[groove]

da cestitamo momcima iz minkena

[simonese]

da cestitamo momcima iz minkena

rano,mislim da ce bit jos svega

[groove]

[veella]

Najbolje da istjera jos petoricu i svira 4 penala
Bruka...

[veella]

A penal za Freiburg nije svirao

[missko]

Sudija se malo pogubio ali tako je to

[ultima_palabra]

Bio je i penal i crveni... ali trebao je i Freiburgu svirati penal.

[veella]

Bio je i penal i crveni... ali trebao je i Freiburgu svirati penal.

[bachje]

ode hofenhaim nazad u zvajtu

[simonese]

Najbolje da istjera jos petoricu i svira 4 penala
Bruka...

- 11

[missko]

ode hofenhaim nazad u zvajtu

Zasluzeno ako odu, ali mislim da se nece zaustaviti u drugoj neko negdje u trecoj ili nize gdje im je realno i mjesto. Prognoziram jos Fürth da bi mogao izletit.

[Partijaner]

Jest ovaj Werder promjenljiva ekipa, pa sta je sa njima u ovim par utakmica, lose igraju totalno, jos izgubit 1:4, nisam to navikao od njih.

[veella]

Protest protiv DFL-a
http://www.derwesten.de/sport/fussball/ ... 36449.html

[ultima_palabra]

Predsjednik Borussije o razlikama između njemačkog i engleskog fudbala...

The chief executive of Borussia Dortmund, who play Manchester City in the Champions League on Tuesday, has launched a passionate defence of German football principles and attacked English clubs' ownership by rich men from overseas.

Hans-Joachim Watzke described German football as "romantic" for retaining its "50% plus one" rule, which requires Bundesliga clubs to be owned by their members. He questioned the ethos and sustainability of Premier League clubs' ownership, including City being owned and funded by Sheikh Mansour of Abu Dhabi.

Of City, a club he visited for last month's 1-1 draw in the first match between the two, Watzke said: "I am a little bit romantic, and that is not romantic. In England people seem not to be interested in this – at Liverpool they are fine for the club to belong to an American. But the German is romantic: when there is a club, he wants to have the feeling it is my club, not the club of Qatar or Abu Dhabi."

Watzke was a prominent supporter of the 50% plus one rule when it was challenged last year by Martin Kind, the president of Hannover. Dortmund are floated on the stock market, but the members elect the president and four members of the club's supervisory board – and also vote to decide major issues of club policy.

"I was the biggest opponent of changing the rule," Watzke said in an interview with the Guardian at Dortmund's Signal Iduna stadium in the build-up to the City match. "Germans want to have that sense of belonging. When you give [the supporters] the feeling that they are your customers, you have lost. In Germany, we want everybody to feel it is their club, and that is really important."

All 36 Bundesliga clubs are owned or controlled by their members, except the historic exceptions of Wolfsburg, owned by Volkswagen, Bayer Leverkeusen, owned by the pharmacy giant Bayer, and Hoffenheim, which is now funded by a single very wealthy entrepreneur, Dietmar Hopp.

Apart from those three and Kind's Hannover, the remaining 32 voted to keep the 50% plus one rule, which was introduced in 2001 when the Bundesliga clubs broke away to run the league competition independently from the German Football Association, the DFB.

"In former times in England I think the relationship between the club and supporters was very strong," Watzke argued. "Our people come to the stadium like they are going to their family. Here, the supporters say: it's ours, it's my club."

Watzke, himself a lifelong supporter of Dortmund, who drew 1-1 with runaway Bundesliga leaders Bayern Munich on Saturday, linked the system of member-ownership and control to the maintenance of affordable tickets and standing areas at top flight German football.

At Dortmund, the 25,000 fans who form the famous "Yellow Wall" standing area in the Signal Iduna stadium's south stand pay just €190 (£154) for a season ticket for the 17 home Bundesliga matches. Season tickets that also include entry to the first three Champions League group games cost slightly more at €220, working out at exactly €11 for each match.

"Here, it is our way to have cheap tickets, so young people can come," Watzke said. "We would make €5m more a season if we had seats, but there was no question to do it, because it is our culture. In England it is a lot more expensive. Football is more than a business."

Watzke argued that Dortmund, who top the group of City, Real Madrid and Ajax while the English champions cannot qualify for the knockout stages, have been able to compete with such clubs thanks to sensible management, coaching and player recruitment, despite not having the resources of a rich individual such as Sheikh Mansour backing the club.

"Everybody told me you cannot play in the Champions League against clubs like Manchester, they have more money. But we are trying to do it ourselves, in our way.

"There are a lot of ways to Rome," he said. "Chelsea have won the Champions League. But Chelsea's question is: what happens after [Roman] Abramovich?"

[Muhamed Đakmić]

Interesantno, one debilčine na bluemoonu ga zovu velikim licemjerom i smatraju da valja gluposti. Kolektivno ispran mozak gamadi, ne znam kako drugačije da ih nazovem. Da Bog da im Roberto potpisao doživotni ugovor sa godišnjom platom od 30 miliona funti, pa nek pjevaju Mancini, oooooh, he came from Italy to manage City.

[BHF_Manijak]

Koga nazivaju licemjerom? Watzkea? PA mogu da mu ga popuse, taj licemjer zavrsi prvi u grupi ispred jednog Reala sa Cristianom, Benzemom, Ozilom, Casillasom, i Ajaxa, dok su imali 11 bodova vise od njihove ekipice u koju je upumpana 1 milijarda eura!
Debili obicni, jebo li ih i seik i Mancini!

[Muhamed Đakmić]

Kao, odakle njemačkim klubovima stadioni i infrastruktura, sve su to napucali uz ogromna zaduženja, onda država otpisala dugove i sad mogu da se pušu. Otprilike da je ovo stav bluemoona. Debilno da ne može gore.

[ultima_palabra]

Bluemoon je u rangu bolnice Nedo Zec.

[BHF_Manijak]

Hahahahhaha koji bolesnici, pa sto njima engleska ne zgradi stadion? Đe će s Svabama...

Ma paecnici ba, ja nisam vidio gorih navijaca od ovih retarda, ali fakat. Eto imas jos hejbet tih vjestackih klubova, ali ovakav retardizam jos nisam vidio, pravo oni debili iz osnovnih skola sto sjede u prvim klupama i teglama od cvika.

[simonese]

BL=BetonLiga

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/champ ... .bild.html

Dortmund 1.
Bayern 1.
Schalke 1.
Hannover 1.
Leverkusen haman pa 1.

[veella]

BL=BetonLiga

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/champ ... .bild.html

Dortmund 1.
Bayern 1.
Schalke 1.
Hannover 1.
Leverkusen haman pa 1.

Uvijek bila i bit ce. Najbolja liga na svijetu u istoriji fudbala.

[BHF_Manijak]

Gledam sad ovaj HSV i umalo ne zaspah, ja mrljave ekipe majko moja. Ne znam ko je gori, neki dan Stuttgart ili oni? Fakat koliko fale Bundesligi ekipe poput sad Dortmunda, Bayerna na momente (i oni ga cesto znaju usrati dosadnom igrom), onog HSV-a prije 4-5 godina, Werderaiz vremena kad su najefikasnija ekipa lige bili, onog Leverkusena sa Ze Robertom, Luciom, Ballackom, Schnedierom.., itd.

[Muhamed Đakmić]

Ma i tada je svega bilo. U principu, jedna ekipa dođe u zenit kad druga padne, tako je bar do sada bilo. Hoće li Dortmund uhvatiti konstantu ostaje da se vidi, ali recimo nije ih na mapi bilo od 2002. godine, kada je bljesnuo Werder. Prije toga je bio jak Leverkusen, a Stuttgart znao cvajtu igrati. I za svaki klub, osim normalno Bayerna, možeš ovakav primjer naći.

[veella]

12min 12sec i kakav spektakl na Westfalenstadionu...