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HarTar wrote: ↑27/01/2022 21:06

animus wrote: ↑27/01/2022 21:01 Hahaha bas dobra provala haha.
A vi kako te stručnjaci geostratezi ili mozda ipak botovi

Koji se jezik govori u Kini? Nemoj guglati

geralt wrote: ↑27/01/2022 21:40

Challenger_ wrote: ↑27/01/2022 21:36

Ne pitaju se samo oni. Tu je duga ruka Deep State i njihove nacističke marionete u Kijevu koje ne *ebu Zelenskog i vladu ni 2%. Spremne na svako zlo na koje se, možda, mora odgovoriti.

Nesto slicno ovome?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelling_of_Mainila

Ili ovome?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_a ... t_bombings

Taman mogu iste ljude angazovati, nije '99. bila tako davno.

“Le Nouvel Observateur: The former director of the CIA Robert Gates affirms it in his Memoirs : the American secret services began to help the Afghan mujahideen six months before the Soviet intervention. At the time, you were President Carter's adviser, so you played a key role in this case. You confirm ?
Zbigniew Brzezinski:Yes. According to the official version of the story, the CIA's aid to the mujahideen began in the course of 1980, that is to say after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan on December 24, 1979. But the reality, kept secret until now, is quite different: it was indeed on July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive on clandestine assistance to opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that day I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid would lead to a military intervention by the Soviets. (...) We did not push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the likelihood that they would.
NO:When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against secret interference from the United States, no one believed them. Yet there was a grain of truth. Do you regret anything today?
Z.Brz. : Regret what? This secret operation was a great idea. It had the effect of luring the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? On the day the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter, in essence, "We now have the opportunity to give the USSR its Vietnam War." (...).
NO: Nor do you regret having favored Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?
Z Brz. :What is most important with regard to the history of the world? The Taliban or the fall of the Soviet Empire? Some excited Islamists or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War? »

animus wrote: ↑27/01/2022 21:56

HarTar wrote: ↑27/01/2022 21:06

Koji se jezik govori u Kini? Nemoj guglati

Japanski naravno.


Progooglaj ti meni malo. Nece ti skoditi.

geralt wrote: ↑27/01/2022 21:45...

jeza u ledja wrote: ↑27/01/2022 21:48

geralt wrote: ↑27/01/2022 21:45
Sad najiskrenije i bez nadmudrivanja, zelim da nikakvog rata ne bude i da ova tema zamre nakon jos nekih desetak stranica. Poenta je sto iskljucivo od Rusa zavisi hoce li se to desiti.

O cemu ce onda popularni geostrateg ex-yu blogosfere pisati?

Ipak je ovo najveca svjetska kriza nakon WWII, a pobijedice sile dobra.

AliceInChains wrote: ↑27/01/2022 22:38

jeza u ledja wrote: ↑27/01/2022 21:48

O cemu ce onda popularni geostrateg ex-yu blogosfere pisati?

Ipak je ovo najveca svjetska kriza nakon WWII, a pobijedice sile dobra.

“…sile dobra”

Mislim, Rambo je zakon, ali ne smiješ ih gledati sve iza reda


Pored svih animoziteta prema Rusiji, sto je iz bosanske perspektive shvatljivo (po meni već malo pretjerano i kontraproduktivno) treba ipak malo ostati objektivan u cijeloj raspravi.

Na ovoj temi nazalost sve manje. Samo izljev nekih emocija.

Ozbiljno mi fali npr. @madner

jeza u ledja wrote: ↑27/01/2022 22:44

AliceInChains wrote: ↑27/01/2022 22:38

“…sile dobra”

Mislim, Rambo je zakon, ali ne smiješ ih gledati sve iza reda


Pored svih animoziteta prema Rusiji, sto je iz bosanske perspektive shvatljivo (po meni već malo pretjerano i kontraproduktivno) treba ipak malo ostati objektivan u cijeloj raspravi.

Na ovoj temi nazalost sve manje. Samo izljev nekih emocija.

Ozbiljno mi fali npr. @madner

Nisi ti mene shvatio.

Challenger_ wrote: ↑27/01/2022 22:12

geralt wrote: ↑27/01/2022 21:45...

BTW, bez trunke cinizma, da imam vlast, odnosno dovoljno uticaja u našem MVP-u, okrenuo bih sve naglavačke da te dovedem u analitiku. Na dobru poziciju za pristojno primanje. Tamo, gdje stranačke fluktuacije i promjene vlasti nemaju uticaja. Istina, ne bih ti dao postsovjetski prostor , to bih prepustio Vitežaninu.

Zapazio sam da vladaš materijom i u osnovi efemerna razlika u mišljenju nije prepreka da ovako razmišljam.

https://archive.fo/ku95Z

In many ways, what we’re seeing now from Moscow is a spasm of atavistic postimperial assertion, which, rather like British and French intervention in Egypt in 1956, may begin well but will probably end poorly.
The Russian dictator has made demands that he knows cannot be met. He has issued them publicly when such things are usually done in private, meaning that he is looking for a fight on any terms. He has mobilized a large army on Ukraine’s borders—more than 100,000 troops—but not nearly one big enough to subjugate a country of 40 million people, many of whom are not only willing to fight but ready to do so. Urban areas absorb armies as blotting paper absorbs an ink drop, and a Russian invasion will lead to a stream of coffins headed home to a population that has little taste for losses.

BORAC Narodne milicije Luganske Narodne Republike poginuo je danas tokom artiljerijskog napada ukrajinske vojske, prvom posle desetodnevnog prekida vatre, saopštio je oficir pres službe LNR Aleksandar Mazejkin.

Prema njegovim rečima, sa položaja 30. brigade Oružanih snaga Ukrajine u rejonu sela Troickoje, koje je pod kontrolom Kijeva, otvorena je vatra iz artiljerijskih oruđa i teških mitraljeza po selu Veselogorovka.

Od leta 2020. u Donbasu je na snazi prekid vatre, koji podrazumeva potpunu zabranu pucanja, stacioniranja oružja u blizini naseljenih mesta, ofanzivnih i izviđačko-diverzantskih operacija.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-say ... 1643290065
Russia Sends Medical Units to Ukrainian Front
Moscow says it sees little scope for optimism in U.S. proposals on Ukraine

“I have no idea whether he’s made the ultimate decision, but we certainly see every indication that he is going to use military force sometime, perhaps now and middle of February,” Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman said Wednesday.

daddy-kool wrote: ↑28/01/2022 09:16

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-say ... 1643290065
Russia Sends Medical Units to Ukrainian Front
Moscow says it sees little scope for optimism in U.S. proposals on Ukraine

“I have no idea whether he’s made the ultimate decision, but we certainly see every indication that he is going to use military force sometime, perhaps now and middle of February,” Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman said Wednesday.

Iz Moskve poručuju: "Ni mi ni Ukrajinci ne želimo rat, Zapad želi provesti scenarij prema kojem Rusija mora napasti Ukrajinu"

daddy-kool wrote: ↑28/01/2022 09:26 Ma ja, moraće intervenisati Rusi (po zapadnom scenariju) koji su se tu slučajno okupili u velikom broju i sa svom potrebnom opremom.

Iz Moskve poručuju: "Ni mi ni Ukrajinci ne želimo rat, Zapad želi provesti scenarij prema kojem Rusija mora napasti Ukrajinu"