Capljina74 wrote: ↑09/09/2020 23:30
Mojne samo o Kurdima...
Nekad mi bili pravo simpatični, ono sami, ima ih korokića...
A onda sam počeo da čitam kikijevo pisanje o njima...
Kiki koga nahvali taj ide u propast to smo utvrdili vec... bilo bi dobro kad bi malo srbiju poceo hvaliti
Imaju kurdi dobre muzikice...
veselo veselo
#26102 Re: Republika Turska
Posted: 09/09/2020 23:33
by HarTar
Capljina74 wrote: ↑09/09/2020 23:30
Mojne samo o Kurdima...
Nekad mi bili pravo simpatični, ono sami, ima ih korokića...
A onda sam počeo da čitam kikijevo pisanje o njima...
Pratim i strane i domaće forume, o turskom "hemijskom" napadu na Kurde nije bilo čak ni na my city military jer svi znaju da su to bajke. Al najjača mu je bilo kaže bombardovali ih avionima u Siriji, kažem mu zona zabrane leta za Turske avione u Siriji, onda se prekontao pa kaže gađali ih sa teritorije Turske Poenta je što on nije ni znao da su Rusi uveli zonu zabrane leta za Turke u Siriji
#26103 Re: Republika Turska
Posted: 09/09/2020 23:35
by HarTar
Pa i Tvrtko je porijeklom iz Srbije, kako će na svoje
#26104 Re: Republika Turska
Posted: 09/09/2020 23:38
by Capljina74
HarTar wrote: ↑09/09/2020 23:35
Pa i Tvrtko je porijeklom iz Srbije, kako će na svoje
Capljina74 wrote: ↑09/09/2020 23:30
Mojne samo o Kurdima...
Nekad mi bili pravo simpatični, ono sami, ima ih korokića...
A onda sam počeo da čitam kikijevo pisanje o njima...
Pratim i strane i domaće forume, o turskom "hemijskom" napadu na Kurde nije bilo čak ni na my city military jer svi znaju da su to bajke. Al najjača mu je bilo kaže bombardovali ih avionima u Siriji, kažem mu zona zabrane leta za Turske avione u Siriji, onda se prekontao pa kaže gađali ih sa teritorije Turske Poenta je što on nije ni znao da su Rusi uveli zonu zabrane leta za Turke u Siriji
ne da nije lose, nego sa time rasterecuju svoju flotu f16, u potpunosti se mogu posvetiti da ih koriste striktno za ostvarivanje prevlasti u zraku, to je jedan od najbitnijih sinergijskih efekata akindzije i slicnih uav aparata.
#26116 Re: Republika Turska
Posted: 10/09/2020 10:07
by @mba
The 51st State wrote: ↑10/09/2020 08:53
1 trilion kubnih metara gasa potvrdjeno.
The 51st State wrote: ↑10/09/2020 08:53
1 trilion kubnih metara gasa potvrdjeno.
kako bi reko rus svabo i englez, sehr gut
ovo je samo sa 2 polja, imaju jos 12 zapikanih da "buse".
#26118 Re: Republika Turska
Posted: 10/09/2020 11:39
by @mba
Na aerodrmima Ataturk, Istanbul i Sabiha Gokcen od januara do augusta obavljeno je 224.919 letova i opsluženo 26.831.852 putnika.
Za osam mjeseci ove godine, na aerodromima u Istanbulu, obavljeno je 224.919 letova, uključujući domaće i međunarodne, a opslužena su 26.831.852 putnika.
Podaci Direkcije državne uprave zračnog saobraćaja (DHMI), do kojih je došao novinar Anadolu Agency (AA) pokazuju kako je na aerodromu Ataturk od januara do augusta obavljeno 23.325 letova, od toga 6.284 domaća, a 17.041 međunarodni let.
Na aerodromu Sabiha Gokcen od januara do augusta obavljeno je ukupno 76.576 letova, od toga 49.780 domaćih, a 26.796 inostranih letova.
Kada je riječ o novom normalnom, odnosno situaciji nakon pojave pandemije koronavirusa, na aerodromu Istanbul nastavlja rasti broj letova. Tako su putnici s aerodroma Istanbul obavili 40.268 domaćih i 84.750 međunarodnih letova. Na aerodromu Istanbul u ovom periodu obavljeno je ukupno 125.018 letova.
Od januara do augusta na aerodromima u Istanbulu obavljeno je 224.919 letova, od toga 96.332 na nivou Turske, a 128.587 na međunarodnim relacijama.
U prvih osam mjeseci prošle godine na aerodromima u Istanbulu obavljeno je 467.835 letova.
Aerodrom Ataturk, nakon velike selidbe prošle godine u aprilu, služi samo za privatne letove i kargo prevoz.
Broj putnika koji su koristili aerodrom Sabiha Gokcen naročito se povećao u ljetnom periodu. U ovom periodu je opsluženo 10.595.122 putnika, od toga 7.113.067 na domaćim i 3.482.055 osoba na međunarodnim letovima.
Na aerodromu Istanbul u istom periodu je opsluženo 16.236.730 putnika, od toga 5.217.757 osoba na unutrašnjim i 11.018.973 osoba na međunarodnim letovima.
Od januara do augusta aerodrome u Istanbulu koristila su 26.831.852 putnika, od toga 12.330.824 na domaćim i 14.501.028 na međunarodnim letovima.
U istom periodu prošle godine aerodrome u Istanbulu koristilo je 68.709.575 putnika.
n the multicultural environment of the northwestern Anatolian marches, the early successes of the Ottomans lay in their ability to mobilize, and in time to assimilate, local Christian elites, whose cooperation facilitated Ottoman rule in the region. Two of the most famous of these elite families that played an important part in early Ottoman history were the Mihaloğulları and Evrenosoğulları. The founder of the first, Köse Mihal (d. c. 1340) was a member of the Byzantine feudal aristocracy,4 and that of the second, Evrenos Beğ (d. 1417) was of either Greek or Catalan/Aragonese origin.5 Ironically, the descendants of the two families became hereditary commanders of the akıncı ("raider") groups that were assigned the task of raiding enemy territory by conducting Ghaza, Holy War, in the name of Islam.
...From the mid-15th to the mid-17th century, when the system was abolished, only eleven out of 78 Ottoman Grand Viziers were of Turkish origin, while the rest were devşirme with the following ethnic backgrounds: Bosnian, Croatian, Armenian, Greek, Italian, Hungarian, Circassian, Georgian, Pomak, and Abkhazian.7
...One of the most famous of these corsairs, Giovanni Dionigi Galeni (1519–1587), known as Uluç (Kılıç) 'Alî Pasha , was the son of a Calabrese fisherman. Initially captured by the corsairs, he rose among their ranks and ended his brilliant career as the Ottoman Grand Admiral (1571–1587).23
Sve muslimani. T.j presli na Islam pa dobili pozicije moci.
The Ottomans employed Christians for their technical expertise in the army as well. A number of German, Hungarian, Slavic, French, Venetian, Genoese, Spanish, Sicilian, and English military experts such as Master Orban (d. 1453), "the Hungarian", and Jörg of Nürnberg served in the Ottoman army and helped the Ottomans in catching up with the new European military technology in firearms and cannonry.26 These foreigners played an even more important part in technology transfer in later centuries, when military reform became the most important concern for the Ottomans.27
Furthermore, the Ottoman palace at times employed a modest number of Christian scientists and artists. Mehmed II, termed by A.D. Mordtmann an "Ost-West Mensch" ("East-West man")28, for instance, showed genuine interest in European sciences and culture and employed renowned Christians in his palace: the geographers Georgios Amyrutzes (1400–1470) and his son Mehmed Bey, the archaeologist Cyriacus of Ancona (ca. 1391–1452) , the historians Michael Critoboulos of Imbros (ca. 1410–ca. 1470) and Vincento G. Mario Angiolello (ca. 1451/1452–1525) , the painter Gentile Bellini (ca. 1429–1507) and the sculptor Matteo de' Pasti (d. 1467) .29
Interestingly enough, there were Europeans outside the Ottoman administrative system who enjoyed considerable influence in the Ottoman capital,31 for example Andrea Gritti (1455–1538) and Alvise (Ludovico) Gritti (1480–1535) .32 The former, before becoming a celebrated general and the Doge of Venice (r. 1523–1538), was a grain merchant in Constantinople, where he established crucial contacts with the Ottoman administration. The career of one of his three illegitimate sons, Alvise Gritti, the famous Beyoğlu ("the son of the Doge"), is even more interesting. His fortunes rose to the extent that he befriended both Suleyman I (1494–1566) and his powerful Grand Vizier, İbrahim Pasha (ca. 1493–1536) , and tried to have himself crowned King of Hungary by the former's hands. Even though he was murdered by his rivals before he succeeded in his ambitions, he was not the last of his kind. Several other Christians enjoyed tremendous influence in Constantinople: fugitive nobles such as Comte Claude Alexandre de Bonneval, also known as Humbaracı Ahmed Pasha (1675–1747) , and Tököly Imre (1657–1705) , military experts such as Baron François de Tott (1733–1793) and Graf Helmuth von Moltke (1800–1891) , and exiled monarchs such as the Swedish king Charles XII (1682–1718) , who took refuge in Constantinople after his defeat by the Russians at Poltava (1709).
Ovo je vec bolje, iako nema ni jednog sa ekvivalentom ministra vlade, gradonacelnika niti generala kao vojskovodje a ne savetnika.
n the multicultural environment of the northwestern Anatolian marches, the early successes of the Ottomans lay in their ability to mobilize, and in time to assimilate, local Christian elites, whose cooperation facilitated Ottoman rule in the region. Two of the most famous of these elite families that played an important part in early Ottoman history were the Mihaloğulları and Evrenosoğulları. The founder of the first, Köse Mihal (d. c. 1340) was a member of the Byzantine feudal aristocracy,4 and that of the second, Evrenos Beğ (d. 1417) was of either Greek or Catalan/Aragonese origin.5 Ironically, the descendants of the two families became hereditary commanders of the akıncı ("raider") groups that were assigned the task of raiding enemy territory by conducting Ghaza, Holy War, in the name of Islam.
...From the mid-15th to the mid-17th century, when the system was abolished, only eleven out of 78 Ottoman Grand Viziers were of Turkish origin, while the rest were devşirme with the following ethnic backgrounds: Bosnian, Croatian, Armenian, Greek, Italian, Hungarian, Circassian, Georgian, Pomak, and Abkhazian.7
...One of the most famous of these corsairs, Giovanni Dionigi Galeni (1519–1587), known as Uluç (Kılıç) 'Alî Pasha , was the son of a Calabrese fisherman. Initially captured by the corsairs, he rose among their ranks and ended his brilliant career as the Ottoman Grand Admiral (1571–1587).23
Sve muslimani. T.j presli na Islam pa dobili pozicije moci.
The Ottomans employed Christians for their technical expertise in the army as well. A number of German, Hungarian, Slavic, French, Venetian, Genoese, Spanish, Sicilian, and English military experts such as Master Orban (d. 1453), "the Hungarian", and Jörg of Nürnberg served in the Ottoman army and helped the Ottomans in catching up with the new European military technology in firearms and cannonry.26 These foreigners played an even more important part in technology transfer in later centuries, when military reform became the most important concern for the Ottomans.27
Furthermore, the Ottoman palace at times employed a modest number of Christian scientists and artists. Mehmed II, termed by A.D. Mordtmann an "Ost-West Mensch" ("East-West man")28, for instance, showed genuine interest in European sciences and culture and employed renowned Christians in his palace: the geographers Georgios Amyrutzes (1400–1470) and his son Mehmed Bey, the archaeologist Cyriacus of Ancona (ca. 1391–1452) , the historians Michael Critoboulos of Imbros (ca. 1410–ca. 1470) and Vincento G. Mario Angiolello (ca. 1451/1452–1525) , the painter Gentile Bellini (ca. 1429–1507) and the sculptor Matteo de' Pasti (d. 1467) .29
Interestingly enough, there were Europeans outside the Ottoman administrative system who enjoyed considerable influence in the Ottoman capital,31 for example Andrea Gritti (1455–1538) and Alvise (Ludovico) Gritti (1480–1535) .32 The former, before becoming a celebrated general and the Doge of Venice (r. 1523–1538), was a grain merchant in Constantinople, where he established crucial contacts with the Ottoman administration. The career of one of his three illegitimate sons, Alvise Gritti, the famous Beyoğlu ("the son of the Doge"), is even more interesting. His fortunes rose to the extent that he befriended both Suleyman I (1494–1566) and his powerful Grand Vizier, İbrahim Pasha (ca. 1493–1536) , and tried to have himself crowned King of Hungary by the former's hands. Even though he was murdered by his rivals before he succeeded in his ambitions, he was not the last of his kind. Several other Christians enjoyed tremendous influence in Constantinople: fugitive nobles such as Comte Claude Alexandre de Bonneval, also known as Humbaracı Ahmed Pasha (1675–1747) , and Tököly Imre (1657–1705) , military experts such as Baron François de Tott (1733–1793) and Graf Helmuth von Moltke (1800–1891) , and exiled monarchs such as the Swedish king Charles XII (1682–1718) , who took refuge in Constantinople after his defeat by the Russians at Poltava (1709).
Ovo je vec bolje, iako nema ni jednog sa ekvivalentom ministra vlade, gradonacelnika niti generala kao vojskovodje a ne savetnika.
Ima:
One of the most famous of these corsairs, Giovanni Dionigi Galeni (1519–1587), known as Uluç (Kılıç) 'Alî Pasha , was the son of a Calabrese fisherman. Initially captured by the corsairs, he rose among their ranks and ended his brilliant career as the Ottoman Grand Admiral (1571–1587)
Imaj u vidu da govorimo o vremenu prije nekih 500injak godina.
London je tek nedavno dobio svog gradonačelnika muslimana, a za generale ćemo se načekati
Objektivno, zapad tek dolazi na ovaj nivo, u proteklih 30ak godina. Do tada je Kennedy kao katolik bio veliki izuzetak, a kamoli šta drugo...
