Ti, sljedbenice vjere Ladje spasa, zar tako?! A ja sve kontala ti ces doci sa dokazom i stati iza svojih rijeci kako oni podrzavaju al qaidu, pa da osudim, zar se nisi bunio da je zabrinjavajuce kako niko nece da osudi.zagortenej wrote: Jesam li to uvrijedio tvog boga Akosa?
Ne, ne Akos je bitan, zar ne? Tu je sva tvoja vjera, nećeš ti nikad osuditi svoje istomišljenike. Mogao bih ti iznijeti doqaze, ali tebe ne zanima istina, nego ideologija. Smutnja je samo u tvojoj glavi.m_l wrote:Ti, sljedbenice vjere Ladje spasa, zar tako?! A ja sve kontala ti ces doci sa dokazom i stati iza svojih rijeci kako oni podrzavaju al qaidu, pa da osudim, zar se nisi bunio da je zabrinjavajuce kako niko nece da osudi.zagortenej wrote: Jesam li to uvrijedio tvog boga Akosa?
Nije bitan AKOS, mogao je biti bilo ko, vec tvoja smutnja.
Hvala Allahu Uzvisenom koji otkriva lazi i manipulacije zlobnih ljudi.
Adio.
E jeste sega, fakat - uvijek sam se pitao a sta je s nama koji ne vjerujemo u nadnaravnost i mitove vezane za Muhameda, a nosimo arapska imena i mnogi nas etiketiraju kao muslimane, Bosnjake, sta li... na stranu razliciti nauci unutar islama, ...iako, kad se brojite ima nas/vas, koliko ono, milijardu i po, ako se ne varam, ... a ipak, kad raspravljate medjusobom ima se osjecaj da vas nema ni milioncic, doduse, onih normalnih ili, kako bi rekli, pravovjernih!kritichar wrote:drago mi je kad ovako javno istupate sa stavovima, a ne da se reklamirate kao normalni muslimani
NINe nekako si cudan kad nisi zelen. Prebledeo si nekako.NIN wrote:E jeste sega, fakat - uvijek sam se pitao a sta je s nama koji ne vjerujemo u nadnaravnost i mitove vezane za Muhameda, a nosimo arapska imena i mnogi nas etiketiraju kao muslimane, Bosnjake, sta li... na stranu razliciti nauci unutar islama, ...iako, kad se brojite ima nas/vas, koliko ono, milijardu i po, ako se ne varam, ... a ipak, kad raspravljate medjusobom ima se osjecaj da vas nema ni milioncic, doduse, onih normalnih ili, kako bi rekli, pravovjernih!kritichar wrote:drago mi je kad ovako javno istupate sa stavovima, a ne da se reklamirate kao normalni muslimani
ah da, krivi Zidovi, Ameri, masoni, i tako ti...
Ma i nisam care moj, vise sam pocrnio - ljeto, sta li...Towelie wrote:NINe nekako si cudan kad nisi zelen. Prebledeo si nekako.NIN wrote:E jeste sega, fakat - uvijek sam se pitao a sta je s nama koji ne vjerujemo u nadnaravnost i mitove vezane za Muhameda, a nosimo arapska imena i mnogi nas etiketiraju kao muslimane, Bosnjake, sta li... na stranu razliciti nauci unutar islama, ...iako, kad se brojite ima nas/vas, koliko ono, milijardu i po, ako se ne varam, ... a ipak, kad raspravljate medjusobom ima se osjecaj da vas nema ni milioncic, doduse, onih normalnih ili, kako bi rekli, pravovjernih!kritichar wrote:drago mi je kad ovako javno istupate sa stavovima, a ne da se reklamirate kao normalni muslimani
ah da, krivi Zidovi, Ameri, masoni, i tako ti...
Zloba rules a bog je k'o Sherlock Holmes, sve otkriva!m_l wrote:Ti, sljedbenice vjere Ladje spasa, zar tako?! A ja sve kontala ti ces doci sa dokazom i stati iza svojih rijeci kako oni podrzavaju al qaidu, pa da osudim, zar se nisi bunio da je zabrinjavajuce kako niko nece da osudi.zagortenej wrote: Jesam li to uvrijedio tvog boga Akosa?
Nije bitan AKOS, mogao je biti bilo ko, vec tvoja smutnja.
Hvala Allahu Uzvisenom koji otkriva lazi i manipulacije zlobnih ljudi.
Adio.
A jel' te proš'o onaj ifriz?NIN wrote:
LMa i nisam care moj, vise sam pocrnio - ljeto, sta li...
Draži mi je Hercule Poirot, sve sam otkrivafatamorgana wrote:Zloba rules a bog je k'o Sherlock Holmes, sve otkriva!m_l wrote:Ti, sljedbenice vjere Ladje spasa, zar tako?! A ja sve kontala ti ces doci sa dokazom i stati iza svojih rijeci kako oni podrzavaju al qaidu, pa da osudim, zar se nisi bunio da je zabrinjavajuce kako niko nece da osudi.zagortenej wrote: Jesam li to uvrijedio tvog boga Akosa?
Nije bitan AKOS, mogao je biti bilo ko, vec tvoja smutnja.
Hvala Allahu Uzvisenom koji otkriva lazi i manipulacije zlobnih ljudi.
Adio.
Prema tome, ne blamiraj se!In 2010 Dr. Shabbir Ahmed was criticized for alleging in his books The Criminals of Islam and Islam-The True History and False Beliefs, that after writing his 300 volumes, authoritative Imam Razi confesses: "All my intellectual and supposedly logical statements in the explanation of the Quran turned out to be lame. All the explanations of the Quran done by the so-called Imams (Tabari, Zamakhshari, Ibn Kathir, Bukhari, Muslim etc) are misguided and misleading. All of us were the tools of Satan."
He was criticized for using Imam Ibn Kathir's name in the list, since Ibn Kathir was born about 150 years after Imam Razi himself. Also he was criticized for using name of Allama Inayatullah Khan Al-Mashriqi, as the source of Imam Razi's strange confession described in page 190 of Mashriqi's book Hadith-Ul-Qur'an. In that page as well no reference could be found of the confession.
Dr. Shabbir agrees that Ibn Kathir's name should not be in the list of the Imams mentioned. Also, he advises the reader to get hold of the 1954 edition of Allama Mashriqi's book, "Hadith-ul-Quran," and go to page 190, and confirm for him- or herself.
What is found in that page is just a translation of a famous poem of Imam Razi, about the endless endeavor of people in this world, while their minds are limited, and their souls are not in harmony with their bodies, and that is why this world is full of pain and suffering, etc.
Dr. Shabbir Ahmed was also criticized for unbalanced academic methodology, an example was; quoting stories from historical sources that the authors themselves discredited as unverified, while at the same time, Dr. Shabbir denies all the Ahadith authenticated by a large number of narrations and scholars. Based on his insistence on this grave error, which was the basis of his book, and his refusal to correct it, Dr. Shabbir Ahmed was accused of academic dishonesty.
Further criticism was regarding his rejection of some Islamic practices mentioned in the Holy Quran itself, for example, Dr. Shabbir claimed that the age old practice of Animal Sacrifice has no Quranic basis and is added by later Imams. While this practice is clearly stated in the Holy Quran [22:33], [22:34], [22:36], and [22:28].
u čemu je problem, ne kontam, jel hočeš da kažeš da je tkz. islamska historija i dogma čista od laži, da su tefsiri čisti od laži, da su zbirke hadisa čiste od laži, šta hočeš da kažeš, ne kontam...m_l wrote:@Diwan, ne znam da li ovo (zlo)namjerno radis ili ne, ali no pasaran.
Ti volis spomenuti blagodati interneta, pa, evo, ukratko sta kaze npr. wikipedia:
Prema tome, ne blamiraj se!In 2010 Dr. Shabbir Ahmed was criticized for alleging in his books The Criminals of Islam and Islam-The True History and False Beliefs, that after writing his 300 volumes, authoritative Imam Razi confesses: "All my intellectual and supposedly logical statements in the explanation of the Quran turned out to be lame. All the explanations of the Quran done by the so-called Imams (Tabari, Zamakhshari, Ibn Kathir, Bukhari, Muslim etc) are misguided and misleading. All of us were the tools of Satan."
He was criticized for using Imam Ibn Kathir's name in the list, since Ibn Kathir was born about 150 years after Imam Razi himself. Also he was criticized for using name of Allama Inayatullah Khan Al-Mashriqi, as the source of Imam Razi's strange confession described in page 190 of Mashriqi's book Hadith-Ul-Qur'an. In that page as well no reference could be found of the confession.
Dr. Shabbir agrees that Ibn Kathir's name should not be in the list of the Imams mentioned. Also, he advises the reader to get hold of the 1954 edition of Allama Mashriqi's book, "Hadith-ul-Quran," and go to page 190, and confirm for him- or herself.
What is found in that page is just a translation of a famous poem of Imam Razi, about the endless endeavor of people in this world, while their minds are limited, and their souls are not in harmony with their bodies, and that is why this world is full of pain and suffering, etc.
Dr. Shabbir Ahmed was also criticized for unbalanced academic methodology, an example was; quoting stories from historical sources that the authors themselves discredited as unverified, while at the same time, Dr. Shabbir denies all the Ahadith authenticated by a large number of narrations and scholars. Based on his insistence on this grave error, which was the basis of his book, and his refusal to correct it, Dr. Shabbir Ahmed was accused of academic dishonesty.
Further criticism was regarding his rejection of some Islamic practices mentioned in the Holy Quran itself, for example, Dr. Shabbir claimed that the age old practice of Animal Sacrifice has no Quranic basis and is added by later Imams. While this practice is clearly stated in the Holy Quran [22:33], [22:34], [22:36], and [22:28].
nastavak:Diwan wrote:IMAM RAZI'S HORRIBLE CONFESSION:
Most Muslims have heard of one of the most ancient and famous Tafseer-eKabeer
(The Great Exposition of the Qur’an) by Imam Fakhruddin Razi. This
tafseer is one of the tops being followed by our Mullahs till this day. After
writing his 300 volumes, the great and authoritative Imam confesses: "All
my intellectual and supposedly logical statements in the explanation of the
Qur’an turned out to be lame. All the explanations of the Qur’an done by
the so-called Imams (Tabari, Zamakhshari, Ibne Kathir, Bukhari, Muslim
etc) are misguided and misleading. All of us were the tools of Satan. Our
souls were polluted by our physical desires. Our efforts of this world
promise to bring us nothing but torture and doom."
(Hadith-Ul-Qur’an by Allama Inayatullah Khan Al-Mashriqi, 1954
edition p190)
Ne podjelama i potkopavanju napretka društva!kritichar wrote:ne šijama, šafijama, hanbelijama, malikijama, hanefijama.....