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Zivot na Krimu godinu dana kasnije

"A few months ago, the pro-Russian majority in Crimea was still raving about higher salaries and pensions. Those gains have been eaten away by inflation that has reached 42 percent. A kilogram, or 2.2 pounds, of potatoes in Sevastopol costs the equivalent of 64¢, while it still goes for 22¢ in Kiev, Ukraine's capital."
Crimeans Who Ushered in the Russians Now Have to Live With Their Choice

Yevgeny Repenkov, a soccer coach and local celebrity in Sevastopol, co-founded one of the “self-defense” units that helped Russia and pro-Kremlin rebels expel the Ukrainian government and military a year ago. He says he sometimes feels uneasy about having participated in what he calls a revolution.

“It’s like I’ve betrayed someone, fled Ukraine when it was in trouble,” he says.

Ethnic Russians in Crimea who cheered Vladimir Putin's annexation of the Crimean peninsula in March of 2014 are beginning to see what their victory means.

A few months ago, the pro-Russian majority in Crimea was still raving about higher salaries and pensions. Those gains have been eaten away by inflation that has reached 42 percent. A kilogram, or 2.2 pounds, of potatoes in Sevastopol costs the equivalent of 64¢, while it still goes for 22¢ in Kiev, Ukraine's capital.

Changing nationality wasn’t Coach Repenkov’s plan when he and his friends rose up against the Ukrainian government that came to power after protesters in Kiev deposed President Viktor Yanukovych. Yanukovych had spurned closer ties with the European Union to align Ukraine with Russia.

“Many things were better in Ukraine than in Russia, which for us was more like paradise lost,” Repenkov says.
But bellicose statements made by nationalist Ukrainian politicians made him change his mind. The last straw was the parliament’s move to revoke a law that gave the Russian language special status in regions where it is predominant. The law was reinstated a day later, but Repenkov was unmoved.

“Nothing would have happened here without these actions," he says. "Nationalism killed everything in Ukraine."
Called Sevastopol Against Fascism, Repenkov's unit helped Russian troops blockade Ukrainian army bases and hunt down “destabilizing elements,” a euphemism for pro-Ukraine activists.

Russian President Vladimir Putin, who long denied Western accusations of sending in troops to destabilize Ukraine, has now admitted as much. In a documentary shown by Russian TV on Monday, he said the seizure of Crimea was a military operation carried out on his personal orders, and that he was ready to put his nuclear staff on red alert during the Crimean crisis.

Many of Repenkov's comrades-in-arms went on to fight in eastern Ukraine. “It was easy," Repenkov said. "People would approach me and I knew where to direct them. They would end up in training camps near Rostov," in Russia, before crossing the Ukrainian border. Repenkov said he is grateful to the Russian special forces for the peaceful takeover.

Now his football club, FC Sevastopol, which played in Ukraine’s premier league, has disbanded; Europe’s football association, UEFA, hasn't recognized the annexation of Crimea. He is trying to set up an independent Crimean league for junior players under the auspices of UEFA, but its prospects are unclear.

A year after the Russian takeover, he finds his city neither here nor there.

“Sevastopol is definitely not Ukraine—it has never been a Ukrainian city. But it’s not Russia either," he says. "More like the USSR.”

A retired Ukrainian military prosecutor, Vladimir Kartashov saw his pension rise fivefold when Russia started paying it last spring. It made him believe he was right to take part in the hastily organized referendum on March 16 of last year. Today he's not so sure.

“I voted for joining Russia because, compared to Ukraine, it felt like a lesser evil," he says. "But it now seems that Russia is sending us all the worst things, without sending any of the good ones.” Like many other Crimeans, he complains about lining up for days to get new Russian documents and about incompetent transplants from regional Russian administrations who are squeezing out local officials.

The new leaders in Sevastopol promised to turn the city into Russia’s Silicon Valley. Instead, hundreds of Crimea-based information-technology experts fled to the Ukrainian mainland after the U.S. and European Union banned contracting with Crimea-based businesses and making wire transfers from Western banks to Crimea. Ukraine’s fledgling IT industry depends on contracts with Western software companies.

“In the last few months, pretty much everyone who can get a salary above $2,000 a month has left Crimea,” says a Crimean software expert, now based in the western Ukrainian city of Lviv. He asked that his name not be used because he hasn’t moved all of his family from Sevastopol. Local industry leaders, such as SoftServe, offered their staff generous packages to relocate to mainland cities in Ukraine.

Other professionals are leaving, too. An owner of a hostel for cyclists who explore Crimea’s picturesque mountains, Marat Pavlenko, planned a major expansion to accommodate the foreign tourists who flooded in after the business was mentioned in the Lonely Planet guidebook series. Instead, he put his hostel on sale after the annexation.

“I am just not in the mood to continue,” says Pavlenko, a Russian-speaker who regards himself as a Ukrainian patriot, even though he admits that his spoken English is better than his Ukrainian. “The only good thing is that I can now begin my life and business from scratch.” Pavlenko has started taking his old customers on cycling tours in Turkey and Georgia.

Tourism provides jobs to 200,000 out of two million Crimean residents. The vast majority of visitors were mainland Ukrainians, who are no longer making the trip. Russia has partly made up for the loss by filling up hotels with public employees on subsidized package tours, but it isn't enough. Many businesses, particularly those dealing with excursions and active leisure, are losing money.

Crimea's agriculture is in tatters, since Ukraine has practically suspended supplies via the Severokrymscky canal, which delivers water from the Dnipro river to the arid peninsula. A Crimean government official told Bloomberg Businessweek that the production of rice has stopped because the fields are dry. Strawberry fields, as well as large cherry and peach gardens, are also endangered, the official said.

Transportation problems are getting more acute after Ukraine suspended rail service from the mainland. People and vehicles line up for hours, or days, at the checkpoint on the border between Crimea and Ukraine proper, as well as at the ferry terminals on both sides of the strait of Kerch that separates Crimea from Russia. A dispute between the Crimean and federal governments has impeded the modernization of the ferry service, putting the upcoming holiday season at risk. The Crimean official predicted it will only get worse.
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Captain Ahab wrote:Zivot na Krimu godinu dana kasnije

A kilogram, or 2.2 pounds, of potatoes in Sevastopol costs the equivalent of 64¢, while it still goes for 22¢ in Kiev, Ukraine's capital."
U konzumu 2 kile krompira skoro 4 marke... Sta cemo, dje cemo...? :roll:
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Joj neki dan sam citao na DW o situaciji na Krimu. Pa brate dragi ko da su djeca pisala. Sve je iz perspektive Ukrajinaca koji se ne slazu sa aneksijom. Da bi se odrzao privid neutralnosti, spominjali su se i oni koji se slazu sa aneksijom, ali su se njihove izjave poslije tumacile, u stilu "nije to bas tako". Naravno izjave ovih prvih su bez komentara i uzete su a priori kao tacne.

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nosara wrote:
Captain Ahab wrote:Zivot na Krimu godinu dana kasnije

A kilogram, or 2.2 pounds, of potatoes in Sevastopol costs the equivalent of 64¢, while it still goes for 22¢ in Kiev, Ukraine's capital."
U konzumu 2 kile krompira skoro 4 marke... Sta cemo, dje cemo...? :roll:
Necemo "nidje", sto pitas? ;)
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Captain Ahab wrote:
nosara wrote:
Captain Ahab wrote:Zivot na Krimu godinu dana kasnije

A kilogram, or 2.2 pounds, of potatoes in Sevastopol costs the equivalent of 64¢, while it still goes for 22¢ in Kiev, Ukraine's capital."
U konzumu 2 kile krompira skoro 4 marke... Sta cemo, dje cemo...? :roll:
Necemo "nidje", sto pitas? ;)
Kontam, ako je cijena kumpira mjera... Blumberg je to... Srca objektivna... :kiselavoda:
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Preko 100 njemačkih državljana, uključujući i one s vojnim iskustvom, pridružilo se pobunjenicima na istoku Ukrajine
Ukrajinski ambasador u Berlinu, Andrij Melnik, izrazio je zabrinutost zbog informacija da se njemački državljani bore na strani pobunjenika te je pozvao njemačke vlasti da učine sve kako bi se to zaustavilo.

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da to nisu uber ruski folkdojčeri iz anamo onog vakta
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Jok tamo su folksdojčeri više sjeverno...oko Magadana i tamo :mrgreen:
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mislim na one što su njemice rodile u čast "oslobadjanja" njemačke :oops:
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sreda 18.03.2015 | 11:01
DNR i LNR: Nemoguć kompromis sa UKR
Izvor: Tanjug

Donjeck -- Lideri samoproglašenih Donjecke i Luganske Narodne republike izjavili su da nisu mogući nikakvi kompromisi sa Kijevom zbog Porošenkovih odluka.


Nikakvi kompromisi sa Kijevom nisu mogući dok ne budu ukinute "sramne odluke" predsednika Ukrajine Petra Porošenka i Vrhovne Rade (skupštine) o posebnom statusu Donjeckog basena na istoku, saopštili Aleksandar Zaharčenko i Igor Plotnicki.

"Odbijajući poseban status za Donbas, Kijev je pogazio krhki mir iz Minska i doveo situaciju do ćorsokaka", naveli su oni, dodajući da su Porošenko i ukrajinski premijer Arsenij Jacenjuk cinično izvrgli ruglu svoje partnere iz EU, koji su toliko napora uložili u pregovore, preneo je Tas.

U izjavi se, takođe, navodi da Kijev ne želi mir već "stremi da nasiljem i ekonomskom blokadom uništi Donbas".

Lideri DNR i LNR izrazili su nezadovoljstvo juče usvojenim amandmanima Rade na zakon o posebnom statusu Donbasa, jer su izmenama navedena samo ona naselja koja se nalaze na liniji razgraničenja, a ne sve reone, gradove, sela i zaseoke, u kojima treba da bude poseban status, u skladu sa članom jedan Zakona o posebnom statusu.

Pored toga, kako se navodi, u zakonu su izmene koje nisu usaglašene sa DNR i LNR a tiču se određenja uslova održavanja lokalnih izbora, a uvođenje posebnog statusa odlaže se na neodređen rok.

RIA Novosti prenela je izjavu zamenika komandanta štaba snaga DNR Eduarda Basurina da odluka Vrhovne rade Ukrajine da odloži uvođenje posebnog režima samouprave u Donbasu za sada neće izazvati nikakve akcije vojnih snaga samoproglašene republike.

"Kod nas sve ide svojim tokom, po planu bez izmena", odgovorio je on na pitanje da li će zbog ove situacije biti promena u vojnim aktivnostima DNR.

Ta ruska agencija prenela je i reagovanje šefa ruske diplomatije Sergeja Lavrova da Moskva žali zbog odluka Rade.

Prema njegovim rečima, rešenja rade koja je uvođenje posebnog statusa za Donbas uslovila održavanjem izbora, pokušaj je da se preokrenu svi prethodni dogovori.

Lavrov je rekao da odluke ukrajinske skupštine uslovljavaju uvodjenje posebnog statusa neophodnošću oslobadjanja tih teritroija koje su nazvali okupiranim, potrebom da se zamene sve osobe koje je izabralo stanovništvo tih teritorija i "proističe da tek kada tim teritorijama budu rukovodili oni koji su prihvatljivi za Kijev, tek tada će Zakon o posebnom statusu stupiti na snagu".

Lavrov je na konferenciji za novinare rekao da rešenja Rade predstavljaju grubo kršenje dogovora iz Minska.

Rada je u utorak odložila uvodjenje posebnog sistema samouprave u Donbasu do održavanja izbora po ukrajinskim zakonima i utvrdila spisak rejona na koje će se zakon odnositi.

Pored toga, ukrajinska skupština odobrila je obaćanje Porošenka Savetu bezbednosti UN i Savetu EU o rasporedjivanju medjunarodne misije za podršku miru i bezbednosti i glasala da se Donjecka i Luganska oblast proglase privremeno okupiranim teritorijama
, podseća RIA Novosti.



a Lepo vam je BaBo Putin govoriJo da uzmete cio donbas do nove godine a vi se prcate oko Debaljceva...eeeeee
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Evo i gusara iz komsiluka .
Ipak lijepo je vidjeti (po komentarima na video uradku ) da ljudi u svijetu znaju o kakvim je bolesnicima rijec .
Srbi u borbi protiv NATOa,imperijalizma,Amerike sve sa slikama Ratka Mladica .


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sumirprimus wrote:
Challenger__ wrote:Obamina hunta je odsvirala svoje.
hunta,to ono kad te vojska drzi na vlasti,jer si njihov,,a ti premijer,pa precjednik precjednik,pa premijer,pa precjednik,pa opet precjednik? :D
evidentno je da ovi svi diktatorcici,kad im pocnu isticat svi moguci i nemoguci rokovi za ostanak na vlasti,pocnu pribjegavat unutarnjim i vanjski neprijateljima,sukobima u zavisnosti od moci,i sirenje lebensrauma...samo sad u kontru. :D
obamino kad istekne nakon 8 godina zna se,ĆA,predavanja po univerzitetima,pisanje memoara,fondacije i sl...

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Nego jeste l' vidjeli ovo?
"Pukla tikva"
Jedan od srpskih dobrovoljaca je na svojoj fejsbuk stranici objavio informaciju o hapsenju dvojice kolega, srpskih dobrovoljaca od strane proruskih snaga jer su kovali zavjeru, planirali diverzije i atentate, izmedju ostalog i ubistvo dva srbina, srpski "husarski puk" je rasformiran

Jedan od uhapsenih je relativno poznati srbijanski tv voditelj Radomir Pocuca koji je suspendovan sa posla i protiv njega je podnjets optuznica, kada je pozvao navijace da, umjesto sto se bore izmedju sebe, pretuku "zene u crnom"

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FB profil je na ime "deki srbija"
Vijest sa "BLIC-a" Srpski dobrovoljac: Počuča uhapšen u Ukrajini http://blic.rs/i/543722
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To je iznenađenje samo za površne posmatrače, da ne upotrebim grublju a adekvatniju riječ. Još prošle godine je nogirana ona petočlana četnička grupa.

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Obratiti pažnju na brojno obezbjeđenje.
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sve je to u režiji Obamine Hunte
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Jah, nogirana petoroclana grupa, pa ovaj "puk" postoj'o do prije dva dana
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insomnia78 wrote:Nego jeste l' vidjeli ovo?
"Pukla tikva"
Jedan od srpskih dobrovoljaca je na svojoj fejsbuk stranici objavio informaciju o hapsenju dvojice kolega, srpskih dobrovoljaca od strane proruskih snaga jer su kovali zavjeru, planirali diverzije i atentate, izmedju ostalog i ubistvo dva srbina, srpski "husarski puk" je rasformiran

Jedan od uhapsenih je relativno poznati srbijanski tv voditelj Radomir Pocuca koji je suspendovan sa posla i protiv njega je podnjets optuznica, kada je pozvao navijace da, umjesto sto se bore izmedju sebe, pretuku "zene u crnom"

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Ako koga zanima
FB profil je na ime "deki srbija"
Vijest sa "BLIC-a" Srpski dobrovoljac: Počuča uhapšen u Ukrajini http://blic.rs/i/543722
Paranoja u separatistickim redovima.
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Vec neko vrijeme pobunjenicke vlasti i milicije se obracunavaju sa "dobrovoljcima" iz Srbije, vecina njih je tamo otislo raditi haos, vjerovatno pljackati i slicno. a to im bas i nece proci.

Jucer ili danas je doslo i do medjusobnog sukoba nekolicine tih likova... a cetnike iz tog odreda Jovan Sevic su "zamolili" da idu u Srbiju, vecina se vratila a u Donbasu je mogao ostati samo onaj ko se prikljuci sluzbenim formacijama Donbasa.

Uostalom, i ukrajinska strana koliko to moze ili smije jer mocni ljudi stoje iza njih, razracunava se kojekakvim paravojnim bataljonima. Aydar je rasformiran, recimo.
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eeeee nejma pljačke i silovanja ko u Bosni...
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Jos da se hoce pocet obracunavat sa ruskim 'dobrovoljcima'...
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Kakve su to "službene formacije Donbasa"? Jel to nešto poput Vojske RSK?
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Evo dali su izjave
Inace ovaj sto ih ispituje, "Deki snajperista" je vise puta odlikovani borac :lol: i ima neki cin
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Kaze mu ovaj uhapseni, kad su dosli da ih hapse da je on reko da ne pruzaju otpor, "ti si video, puska je bila na zidu, niko je nije pipnuo, saradnja je bila apsolutna"
Kaze Dejan, "da saradnja je bila apsolutna, neki su toliko saradjivali da nisu pola sata mogli doci sebi, samo su sedeli i tresli se" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Deki se 'proslavio' na snimcima koje je napravila ukrajinska armija kada su ga zarobili.Poslije su ga razmijenili,vjerovatno za novac.
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