Obskurni wrote:Tvrtko II Kotromanić wrote:u cijeloj jugoistocnoj Aziji, muslimani su ili protjerani ili su u sukobu sa centralnom vlasti zbog raznih oblika diskriminacije i sl
u Kambodzi, Vijetnamu, Tajlandu ista situacija...
Jebiga, kad su dolazili prvi put oni su tjerali i spaljivali. Sad izgleda obrnuto.
Islam u taj dio svijeta je došao zahvaljujući jakim trgovačkim vezama između Arapa i tog dijela svijeta,a ne nikakvim spaljivanjem i tjeranjem.Muslimani u jugoistočnoj Aziji su većinom autohtoni narodi.
Though Arab-Muslim traders traveled through island Southeast Asia as early as the seventh and eighth centuries, there was little settlement until the late thirteenth century. Ruling elites in the Malay peninsula were converted in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries, as were those of the Southern Philippines. Thus Islam did not come to construct a new civilization; it helped to transform those that it found when it reached this region. Islam, however, did bring about a new dimension to the region of Southeast Asia.When Islam arrived, its influence was confined to the people of the Malay race, who inhabited the islands and the southeastern reaches of the Asian landmass. The Malay principalities of the past consisted of Patani, Kedah, Trengganu, Kelantan and Perlis. Until the first quarter of the eighteenth century, there was a succession of kings ruling Patani known as the Kelantan Dynasty. The royal network of kinship extended throughout the Malay peninsula. It is obvious that Patani elite developed closer connections with its neighbors in the Malay world than with its neighbor on the northern side.
Before Islam spread and integrated into the mainland, western colonialism overtook it and became a new force spreading through the region.
Što se tiče muslimana u Mijanmaru oni jesu dobrim djelom potomci Arapa,Perzijanaca,Pakistanaca koji su se stopili sa lokalnim stanovništvom ali nigdje ja nisam pročitao da su palili i tjerali,nego su dolazili kao trgovci,te za vrijeme Britanske imperije.
The first Muslims landed in Myanmar / Burma’s Ayeyarwady River delta, Tanintharyi coast and Rakhine as seamen in the ninth century, prior to the establishment of the first Myanmar (Burmese) empire in 1055 AD by King Anawrahta of Bagan (or Pagan).[1][2][3][4][5]The dawn of the Muslim settlements and the propagation of Islam was widely documented by the Arab, Persian, European and Chinese travelers of ninth century.[6][7]The current population of Myanmar Muslims are the descendants of Arabs, Persians, Turks, Moors, Indian-Muslims, Pakistanis, Pathans, Bengalis, Chinese Muslims and Malays who settled and intermarried with local Burmese and many ethnic Myanmar groups such as the Rakhine, Shan, Karen, and Mon.
The population of Muslims in Myanmar increased during the British rule of Burma because of new waves of Indian Muslim immigration.This sharply declined in the years following 1941 as a result of the Indo-Burman Immigration agreement, and was officially stopped following Burma's (Myanmar) independence on 4th January, 1948.
Muslims arrived in Burma as travelers, adventurers, pioneers, sailors, traders, military personnel (voluntary and mercenary), and prisoners of war. Some were reported to have taken refuge from wars, Monsoon storms, shipwreck, and other circumstances. Some were victims of slaverybut many early Muslims were professionals and skilled personnel such as royal advisers and administrators. Still others were port authorities, mayors, and traditional medicine men.
Persian Muslims traveled over land in search of China and arrived in northern Burma at the (Chinese) border. Their colonies were recorded in the Chronicles of China in 860 AD. Myanmar Muslims were sometimes called Pathi., a name widely believed to be derived from Persian. Bago / Pegu, Dala, Thanlyin / Syriam, Taninthayi /Tenasserim, Mottama / Martaban, Myeik / Mergui and Pathein /Bassein were full of Burmese Muslim settlers and Muslims often outnumbered the local Burmese by large margins. In one record, Pathein was said to be populated with Pathis. In Kawzar 583 (13th Century), Bassein or Pathein was known as Pathi town under the three Indian Muslim Kings. Arab merchants arrived Martaban, Margue. Arab settlement in the present Meik’s mid-western quarters.
Naravno da je iz naše perspektive gdje sve do 19 stoljeća muslimani kao zajednica nisu mogli egzistirati na području Habsburške monarhije i Venecije, nego su morali birati između pokrštavanja i egzila ili novopečene srpske države u 19 stoljeću gdje su imali istu subinu,teško zamisliti da u nekim dijelovima svijeta različite kulture i civilizacije koegzistiraju u miru,naseljavaju se,raseljavaju,stapaju i formiraju neke nove kulture,a tako je bilo u jugoistočnoj Aziji,sve dok...
Western colonialism thus introduced new culture and modern practice that upset the pre-modern power relations among the people of various races and religions. It intensified the contention between the Islam-dominated area of the lower South and the Buddhist-dominated area of central Thailand. From then on, it was possible to speak of the distinct Malay-Muslims of the South and the Thai-Muslims of the central Thailand.
History
Uostalom šta i da su došli sa osvajanjima,paljenjem i tjeranjem ,je li to opravdava ovo što im se dešava u 21 stoljeću,nakon toliko stoljeća prisutnosti islama na tom području?Mislim,znam da je ovdje na Balkanu u tradiciji pravdanje zločina nad muslimanima,jer eto oni su ovdje došli sa zlim Turcima,ali ipak čovjeka uvijek nanovo šokira mentalni sklop koji pravda zločine u 20,21 stoljeću,jer eto tamo nekad i negdje(navodno) su i oni radili nama isto.Ali šta očekivati od sredine u kojoj dominira srpsko-hrvatska propagandna historija.
