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livadic wrote:
status regularne armije mogu dobiti kada obuku uniforme ...
i prihvate zenevsku konvenciju o ratovanju ...
do tada su samo banda ... ... [formalno*pravno ...
pa je i odnos prema njima nesto drukciji ...

Gdje to ti procita i po kojem zakonu, de bogati pojasni. Nista i niko ne moze biti izvan pravnog sistema i zakona. Po kojoj logici mogu biti izvan tog sistema Iracani koji se bore protiv Amerikanaca ? Po kojoj logici Amerikanci mogu biti izuzeti od tih principa ? Da te potsjetim govorimo o demokratiji. Ebiga Amerikanci su uzor "demokratije" koju propagiraju i busaju se kao njeni predvodnici. Dakle zakljucak je da je ta "demorkatija" samo paravan za nesto krupnije, kao i bezbrojeno puta do sada.

americki vojnici ubijaju ranjene iracane u Dzamiju

violentjack wrote:Pa tako se u Americi krkaju..prvo pucaj pa poslije postavljaj pitanja

:D:D

Edin H. wrote:Amnesty cited an incident shown on Channel Four news last week when a marine fired at an apparently wounded insurgent who was off screen then said "he's gone". Amnesty said: "Under international humanitarian law the US forces have an obligation to protect fighters hors de combat [disabled fighters]."

In another reported incident, Amnesty said, some Iraqis had come out of a building waving a white flag. But when a marine approached this group, insurgents opened fire.

This morning, a relief convoy of ambulances and supplies turned back from an attempt to enter Falluja, after the Red Cross decided the area was still not safe enough.

The Red Crescent and Red Cross have been unable to gain access to people inside Falluja. US marines have questioned whether the aid is needed, saying they have enough supplies for the remaining civilians. Civilians seeking medical care were told through loudspeakers and leaflets to contact US troops.


Vidjeste li ovo?
Americki marinac ubi nenaruzanog ranjenog Iracanina?
Takodje humanost na djelu. Amerikanci zabranili ulazak medicinske opreme u Falluja-u!

cool

Što kaže dobri i vrli Profesor nenaoružane i naoružane mudžahidiće treba tamaniti .
Da dodam koji licemjer.

nebi wrote:
cool

Hm, ja iskreno budem tuzan kada vidim kakav sve moralni ljudski otpad dolazi na ovaj forum. Podrzavati ubijanje nenaoruzanih ljudi, pogotovo ranjenika, je najmizerniji cinizam. Kada extremne islamske grupe ubiju nenaoruzane civile to je terorizam, slazem se, kada americki vojnik ubije ranjenog civila ili irackog pobunjenika to je demokratija. Zaista pocinjem sumnjati da je prava strana pobijedila u II WW.

Drvosjeca iz Dejcica wrote:

nebi wrote:
cool

Hm, ja iskreno budem tuzan kada vidim kakav sve moralni ljudski otpad dolazi na ovaj forum. Podrzavati ubijanje nenaoruzanih ljudi, pogotovo ranjenika, je najmizerniji cinizam. Kada extremne islamske grupe ubiju nenaoruzane civile to je terorizam, slazem se, kada americki vojnik ubije ranjenog civila ili irackog pobunjenika to je demokratija. Zaista pocinjem sumnjati da je prava strana pobijedila u II WW.

Fuck you!!Jebite se svi skupa!!!
Koliko socijalne i ratne pornografije moze podnijeti jedan ljudski um?
Nazivas mene otpadom?Nazovi tako forumase koji po svaku cijenu hoce da postave topic.I tako to ide danima,ide,ide,ide.....Ceceni ubijaju Ruse.. ....Ameri ubijaju Iracane... ...Jevreji se gaze medjusobno.... ....hajmo,ko nudi vise?Ima li kakva scena silovanja,
mozda nam se digne na to?Ima li sta sa srpskom pecenicom,kao od onog debila CompuSerba?Ili sa hrvatskom,muslimanskom,ciganskom...?
I to "coool" je bas to sto civilizirani svijet kaze kad vidi ovako nesto.
A vi cekajte njegovu reakciju i umirite dalje.Ili pokazujte slike po forumima,zauzimajte pro i contra stavova(jedni ga hvale,drugi zale,treci kazu....).

manijak1 wrote:Što kaže dobri i vrli Profesor nenaoružane i naoružane mudžahidiće treba tamaniti .
Da dodam koji licemjer.

sto je licemjer, zar to nije dosljednost

Dvoličan je i jednostran.Kao i ti

upravo si sebe opisao, da podsjetim, najveci saveznici

Drvosjeca iz Dejcica wrote:

nebi wrote:
cool

Hm, ja iskreno budem tuzan kada vidim kakav sve moralni ljudski otpad dolazi na ovaj forum. Podrzavati ubijanje nenaoruzanih ljudi, pogotovo ranjenika, je najmizerniji cinizam. Kada extremne islamske grupe ubiju nenaoruzane civile to je terorizam, slazem se, kada americki vojnik ubije ranjenog civila ili irackog pobunjenika to je demokratija. Zaista pocinjem sumnjati da je prava strana pobijedila u II WW.

vala upravu si

hitler je bio veliki prijtelj s mnogim muftijama
a i volio je požrtvovanost u borbi muslimanskih vojnika

a tu je i handžar divizija

ako komi ovako nastavi, meni ce preostat da se samo javljam na ljubav&sex

komi wrote:hitler je bio veliki prijtelj s mnogim muftijama
a i volio je požrtvovanost u borbi muslimanskih vojnika
a tu je i handžar divizija

Dobro, imao je on i svog PAPU Pija XII ali to sada nije tema.
Je li ti Komi zaista smatras da se zlocin moze opravdati pa makar dolazio i od strane najvecih zagovornika ljudskih "sloboda" i "demokratije" ?

ake wrote:ako komi ovako nastavi, meni ce preostat da se samo javljam na ljubav&sex

ja samo citiram ono što sam čuo u dokumentarnim emisijama (HRT)
a to što se nekome ne sviđa
njihov problem

Pa i Pavelić nije imao ništa protiv muslimana a bio je frend Hitleru

Nije riječ o najvećim saveznicima već o ubijanju nedužnih ljudi ili takvi ne postoje ako su mudžahidići .
Upravo si pokazao koliko si dvoličan i jednostran, isti Livadić.
Komi četnici su bili na kojoj strani , Hitlerovoj ili kako padobranac koji padne ???????

manijak1 wrote:Komi četnici su bili na kojoj strani , Hitlerovoj ili kako padobranac koji padne ???????

na strani Kralja i u borbi protiv komunista - partizana
do 1943 iz je zapad gledao kao borce protiv Nijemaca
ali su šurovali sa nijemcima i surađivali s okupatorima

a Britanci su mudro šutili da bi Turska ostala neutralna da se ne bi pridružila hitleru

na kraju 1944 i početkom 1945 su skinuli uniforme i postali partizani

livadic wrote:istina je da mudzahidici nisu potpisali zenevsku konvenciju ...

pa mogu da cakijaju cafire do mile volje ...

jarane i tebe ce oni, tebi je to sudjeno izgleda eto vidjeces, tebi je sudjeno da te mudza dokrajci, imam neki predosjecaj!

ko hoce da cuje rafal evo link
http://www.ogrish.com/attachments/2004/ ... _video.wmv

mislim da je ovaj malac davo neke signele ,

Drvosjeca iz Dejcica wrote:

nebi wrote:
cool

Hm, ja iskreno budem tuzan kada vidim kakav sve moralni ljudski otpad dolazi na ovaj forum.

prilagodi se i postani metla ili neko radikalnije sredstvo

nebi wrote:
Fuck you!!Jebite se svi skupa!!!

Perverznjak

komi wrote:vala upravu si

hitler je bio veliki prijtelj s mnogim muftijama
a i volio je požrtvovanost u borbi muslimanskih vojnika

a tu je i handžar divizija

ma dobri moj..ima da odradimo plan revitalizacije handzara maksuz za tebe

Engram::X wrote:

Drvosjeca iz Dejcica wrote:

nebi wrote:
cool

Hm, ja iskreno budem tuzan kada vidim kakav sve moralni ljudski otpad dolazi na ovaj forum.

prilagodi se i postani metla ili neko radikalnije sredstvo

nebi wrote:
Fuck you!!Jebite se svi skupa!!!

Perverznjak

komi wrote:vala upravu si

hitler je bio veliki prijtelj s mnogim muftijama
a i volio je požrtvovanost u borbi muslimanskih vojnika

a tu je i handžar divizija

ma dobri moj..ima da odradimo plan revitalizacije handzara maksuz za tebe

Redar prijavio nemirne ucenike uciteljici!
Uciteljica primila k znanju!

Sjedi Engram!

Mila moja majko.....

Amerika najbolje regrutuje teroriste

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Colleagues defend suspended marine

Simon Jeffery
Tuesday November 16, 2004


A marine points his gun towards a wounded insurgent in a mosque moments before gunfire was heard. Photograph: NBC News/AP


A US marine filmed shooting an unarmed and injured insurgent in a Falluja mosque was today taken off duty while an investigation is carried out into the killing.
The close range execution-style shooting, captured by an American journalist embedded with the marine unit, was broadcast on US networks just hours after Amnesty International accused US forces and insurgent fighters of breaking the rules of war that protect civilians and wounded combatants

The footage - edited to remove images of the shot being fired - showed five injured or dead insurgents in the mosque on Saturday when an unnamed US marine is heard shouting obscenities in the background, yelling that one of the men is only pretending to be dead.

"He's fucking faking he's dead. He's faking he's fucking dead," the marine says.

The video then showed him raising his rifle towards a prisoner lying on the floor. The pool footage provided to US networks cuts out at that point but the Associated Press, which saw the full video, said a bullet hits the man in his upper body or head and blood splatters on the wall behind him.

Another voice can then be heard saying: "He's dead now."

Sharif Hikmat Nashashibi, chair of Arab Media Watch, said the footage would reinforce the idea in the Middle East that the welfare of Iraqis was not the prime concern of US forces.

"It is not so groundbreaking given what happened in Abu Ghraib," he said. "It will be more a confirmation of Arab suspicions than a revelation."

US marines rallied round their comrade, saying he was probably under combat stress in unpredictable circumstances.

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"I can see why he would do it. He was probably running around being shot at for days on end in Falluja. There should be an investigation but they should look into the circumstances," Lance Corporal Christopher Hanson told Reuters.

"I would have shot the insurgent too. Two shots to the head," said Sergeant Nicholas Graham. "You can't trust these people. He should not be investigated. He did nothing wrong."

The US 1st Marine Division said it would investigate whether the soldier, part of a unit that had lost a man the day before to the booby-trapped dead body of an insurgent, had acted in self-defence.

"This investigation commenced immediately when allegations were brought forward and is continuing," a statement said.

"The purpose of this investigation is to determine whether the marine acted in self-defence, violated military law or failed to comply with the law of armed conflict."

Several US military personnel are awaiting trial in connection with deaths in Iraq. A US army second lieutenant was yesterday charged with "premeditated murder and conspiracy to commit premeditated murder" for his role in the shooting of a wounded Iraqi in a Baghdad slum and two US soldiers are facing trial on charges of murdering a wounded Iraqi teenager.

Kevin Sites, the NBC reporter embedded with the marines in Falluja, said the mosque where the man was shot had been used by insurgents armed with rocket-propelled grenades and AK-47 rifles to attack US forces. A marine unit fought its way through the area on Friday, killing 10 and wounding five when it stormed the building.

A second group of marines later entered the mosque, after reports it had been reoccupied. Sites said the five wounded men were still in the mosque: two were propped against the wall and bleeding to death, one was covered by a blanket and another, the man who was shot, was severely wounded but breathing.

The events detailed on the report begin as some of the marines from the unit accompanied by Sites approach the mosque and marines who are already in the building emerge.

An approaching lieutenant asks them if there are insurgents inside, and if the marines have shot any of them. A marine can be heard responding affirmatively. The lieutenant then asks if the insurgents are armed and a fellow marine shrugs.

NBC reports said that the Pentagon ordered that the identity of the marine who carried out the filmed shooting was not disclosed since US military authorities were anticipating "a criminal investigation" as a result of this incident "and do not want to implicate anybody ahead of that".