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#26 Re: Kosa unistena kiselinom

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Meni se cini da si dobila ono sto si trazila, tako da niti tebe treba pomagati, niti te treba razumjevati.

Smanji malo ego trip, i nije glava za ljepljene govana i nakit, vec da se dokazes necim drugim, a kad to sljaka, ne mora tjeme da sljasti, nes s frizurom zaraditi milione, a i ona s najgorom frizurom se udala, nije ostala neudana, nema sela "sjebanih frizura" u koje idu neudane zene.

Nikada nisam shvatao opsesivnost s kosama, frizurama, da se je u toku, jel ti znas da frizerke imaju najvecu stopu raka od skoro pa svih "zenskih" zanimanja, tj. bare-bare isto raditi u rudniku ili u frizerskom salonu. A sto to? Sto su dobre te kemikalije da se ljepe, meljaju, udisu, da se sa njima radi. Kosa je mrtav protein. Protein je i komad mesa u trznici. Sad zamisli kad se po toj kosi stave kemikalije one - koje je mjenjaju - sta ti to radi s kozom iz koje ta kosa upravo, raste.
Frizerke sve imaju povecan rizik od - raka mokracne besike, mesotheliome (rak pluca), limfoma (rak bijelih krvnih zrnaca) i tumora na mozgu. I tebe brine kosa. Ne brine te sto za 20 godina mozes zavrsiti s karcinom koze na glavi kao musterija jedne od gorenavedenih potencijalni zrtava jer ako ti je planula kosa - mogu zamisliti sta je bilo s kozom, jelde boljela glava 3-4-5 dana, kao da si izgorila na moru u Augustu mjesecu. To ti jelde, niko nije rekao da mozes rak fasovati, evo da ti ja onda kazem.

Nekada je najpametnija stvar u zivotu, kad ono sve u tebi kipti, nisi dobila sto si trazila, nije to kako si ti zamislila, nekad je najbolje kad se osjecaj tako - ne raditi nista, radije to nego uletili bez procjene pa onda - sjeb na "reklamaciju", mislila ti da ce im biti drago kad te vide opet, da sljakaju besplatno cijelo posljepodne. I na kraju - sto je bitna frizura uopste, ako to izgleda ko krepala kakva zivotinja na vrh glave, a to je onako kako ti opisujes, ja bih glavu obrijao, kupis periku i bog ti pomogao, dok ne naraste dok se ne moze osisati na kratko da je na nesto nalik. Ako te je sramota hodati bez kose, a ako nije - stisi petlju u zivotu, pa reci kad sam imala muda da zaserem, imam i da se rijesim problema. Pa koliko ima zena rak dojke, pa kemoterapija, pa nema dlake nijedne na glavi, pa zive, sta si ti bolja od njih? Al' treba odrasti za to. A ne kmecati ko skevre - nijesam dobio sto sam stio. De malo, dodji sebi dok jos imas kome.

I malo manje tog fosgena trpati po glavi, gori to bolan, unisti ne samo kozu nego i nervni sistem, sve sjeba. Ali' da si lipojka. Sta mislis kad je kosa problem, kako je kad ti nozem odkinu 3X3 cenata s glave radi raka koze? Pa nema kose, a onda ti graft skidaju sa guzice tj. dizu kozu sa butina i ledja, da bi ranu na glavi mogli s cim zatvoriti, a znas kako boli parcijalni graft koji se digne sa butine? Boli kao opekotina 2 stepena, tj. ako mozes maksimalan bol na kozi da zamisli, e to je bol koji ljudi imaju.I dobijes na glavi onda komad koze na kojem nikad ne moze kosa da raste. Samo se ti samosazaljevaj sad i misli da si prosla - najgore sto si mogla. Znaces za jedno 20-tak godina kako si prosla. Ako ti je jedno sreca u svoj nesreci to je da ti se desilo ovo u decembru pa nisi toliko suncu izlozena.

Evo malo sam ceprkao i nasao neki tekst, ali samo znaj ovo, farbe koje se danas koriste, znace se tek za 20 godina sta uzrokuju, kao sto su i one koje su koristene do 1980 - vidlji njihov efekat tek danas.
Problem: I had a nurse tell me not to use any dark brown or black hair coloring because it might cause cancer. I read your book on hair care about this particular subject explaining there is nothing to worry about, but it seems to still be an issue in the medical world. Is dark hair color safe, or isn't it?

Solution: Unfortunately, few of the 75 million women who color their hair on a regular basis even know that an issue about hair dye and its association with certain types of cancers exists. However, although the issue is real, what it means isn't settled or conclusive in any regard. The best I can do is to provide the information and research that is available so that you can make a final decision for yourself.

Much of this controversy began when a study conducted by the American Cancer Society found that women who used black hair dye for more than 20 years had a slightly increased risk of dying from non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and multiple myeloma (a bone-marrow tumor that is usually malignant). Researchers surveyed 573,369 women who completed questionnaires about their use of permanent hair dye. However, this same study concluded that women who dyed their hair showed a slightly reduced risk overall of dying of cancer than women who never used dyes. (Sources: Journal of the National Cancer Institute, February 2, 1994, pages 210–215; Environmental Health Perspectives, June-July 1994, volume 102, number 6–7.)

Subsequent studies found no correlation and did not support risk of any kind. An article in FDA Consumer magazine, January-February 2001, explained that in a "...study, published in the October 5, 1994, issue of the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, researchers from Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston followed 99,000 women and found no greater risk of cancers of the blood or lymph systems among women who had ever used permanent hair dyes. Then in 1998, scientists at the University of California at San Francisco questioned 2,544 people about their use of hair-color products. After integrating the results of this study with those of animal and other epidemiological studies, they concluded that there was little convincing evidence linking non-Hodgkin's lymphoma with normal use of hair-color products in humans. The study was published in the December 1998 issue of the American Journal of Public Health."

There have also been other subsequent studies showing hair dye to have no association with cancer or other diseases. One noted that: "The lack of an association between exclusive use of a single type of hair coloring application and breast cancer risk argues that hair coloring application does not influence breast cancer risk among reproductive-age women. Thus, the results of the present study, as well as negative ones from most (but not all) prior studies, are most consistent with the conclusion that neither hair coloring application nor hair spray application influences breast cancer risk" (Source: Cancer Causes and Control, December 1999, pages 551–559). Another stated: "We found no evidence that permanent hair dye use, age at first use, frequency of use, or duration of use is associated with the development of systemic lupus" (Source: Arthritis and Rheumatism, April 1996, pages 657-662).

Then in February 2001 this issue was given new life when researchers from the University of Southern California reported a link between the use of permanent hair coloring and bladder cancer. "They analyzed questionnaires from 897 patients with bladder cancer and compared them to questionnaires from 897 similar individuals without bladder cancer. They found that individuals with bladder cancer were three times as likely to have used permanent hair dyes at least once a month for 15 years or more. In addition, subjects who worked for 10 or more years as hairdressers or barbers were five times more likely to have bladder cancer than people who were not exposed to permanent hair dye" (Source: http://www.sciencedaily.com).

It is important to point out that this study was an epidemiological investigation looking at behavior and the possible relationships between products and their effect on health. Epidemiological studies are not definitive in any way. For example, it isn't clear from this study what percentage of this group smoked, what kind of diet they had, or whether or not they had other mitigating illnesses. It also doesn't say that hair dye causes cancer, just that it has a casual relationship (meaning there is no definite or conclusive evidence).

As you can tell, the jury is still out on this issue. There is not enough information or research to assert that you should avoid dark-colored hair dyes.

If you want to be extra cautious you can choose to avoid dark permanent or intermediate hair dyes. In view of the University of Southern California study showing that women who dye their hair 12 times or more each year for a period of 15 years were at a higher risk, you may want to consider dying your hair less frequently, no more than say 6 or 8 times a year. It is also important to keep in mind that although hair dyes may increase the risk of getting bladder cancer, such a risk would represent a relatively small number of cases, since women account for only about 15,000 of the 40,000 new cases of bladder cancer diagnosed each year. (Source: http://www.webmd.com.)
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#27 Re: Kosa unistena kiselinom

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Wow, strasno. A bas jucer kontam moram se ofarbati.

Nista, haman se svi moramo vratiti na prirodne preparate. Meni nesto uvijek bilo mrsko stavljati kanu, te se sav ulijepis, pa mora preko noci stajati, pa kadu uzutis, pa kad peres kosu sljedecih nekoliko puta opet ono zutilo...

S farbom sve zacas ide, ali ako ovoliko nije zdrava onda ne znam zasto riskirati.
Imam neke prirodne kane, stoji mi vec neko vrijeme... Ja bih vas zamolila ako mi neko zna reci, kako se to koristi, zaboravila sam, jer jos od puberteta je nisam stavljala.
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#28 Re: Kosa unistena kiselinom

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Problem s oštećenim korijenom kose je to sto sve sto se stavlja na povrsinu glave pomaze samo vizuelno, dan ili dva po stavljanju, dakle, prava opticka varka, bez rjesavanja pravog problema.

Korijen dlake prima hranjive materije putem krvnih kapilara, pored vitamina koje unosis hranom, bar par mjeseci pij kompleks vitamina za kosu i nokte, a jos bitnije, barem 20 minuta dnevno masiraj prstima tjeme, bitno je dovesti krv u kapilare tjemena i korijen vlasi, obori glavu medju koljena i kruznim pokretima masiraj tjeme. Moj otac u penziji ima bolju kosu od vecine djevojaka koje znam, poceo je celaviti prije par godina i zapoceo to sa svakodnevnom masazom vlasista, danas ima izuzetno jak korijen i sjajnu kosu.

Kao Raso u boljim danima :lol:
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#29 Re: Kosa unistena kiselinom

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Skyfox wrote: izvini ali kakve veze imaju pramenovi, moze li to osteti kosu??? Posvjetljujem je neke 2 godine i nikad nisam imao problema, doduse jednom su me u ljubicasto ofarbali jer je bila neka neiskusna ali vec sutradan su to popravili i sve OK.
Prvi put cujem da i to moze osteti kosu?
ih naravno :mrgreen:
doduse zavisi da li je frizer strucan i koliko.
Meni je taj nesretnik tada pramenove izvukao na kapu :( i nije mu se svidjelo pa je skinuo i onda opet izvukao, znaci dva puta mi je izvlacio kosu na kapu, i onda mi drzao "boju" mnogo duze nego sto je trebalo.
Naravno posljedice se nisu vidjele odmah, vec nakon 3,4 mjeseca, ima tome tacno 2 godine.
Kao sto rekoh ja sam probala od tada sve zivo, ali nikada mi se korjen nije oporavio.
Place mi se kada vidim jednu stranu kose uvijek nakon pranja ko klupko smotanu :(

Tako da sada i kada bih htjela ofarbati kosu ili nesto drugo, ne smijem.
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#30 Re: Kosa unistena kiselinom

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lolita_xx wrote:
Litotes wrote:Evo jedan prirodan lijek a odlican je za jacanje kose.
Dakle zumance se umuti sa maslinovim uljem i stavi se kao maska na kosu, nekih 15min. Isperes i tako uvijek 1x sedmicno.
ja sam cula da to neka efekta :-)
i sama sam probala, i nigdje veze, smrdi, a i kosu ne mogu pocesljati.

Meni je bilo odlicno za kosu, a to da smrdi, to si upravu. Vrijedi pokusati svakako.
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#31 Re: Kosa unistena kiselinom

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baš da se kosa nije popravila od žumanceta i maslinovog ulja ,ne vjerujem.Mora se biti uporan.Uz ovo ponekad prije pranja kose utrljati čaj od kamilice sa malo domaćeg sirćeta,a to isto i poslije pranja.K[youtube][/youtube]osa bude kao nova i bez peruti.Samo ne može ništa od prvi put.Ovo treba da je normalna obaveza za njegu kose.Ono sa žumancetom može i svaka 2 mjeseca ako nije veće oštećenje. :thumbup:
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#32 Re: Kosa unistena kiselinom

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Niko mi jos ne rece kako se kanira kosa? Hajte molim vas. Kako da pripremim rastvor itd...

E sad, ja imam super kosu masAllah i jako mi je stalo da tako i ostane. A ovo radim svakih otprilike mjesec dana... Stavim na kosu regenerator obicni za kosu (u zadnje vrijeme koristim onaj Balein iz DM) ili pak masku (najcesce koristila onu slovensku Klas, sa zitaricama)... Dobro, dobro namackam kosu time, sve to umotam kao prilikom farbanja, i drzim 4-5 sati (moze i preko noci), potom operem kosu, koristeci sampon. Koristim Nivein.

Kosa bude odlicna, sjajna, ma prelijepa...
Samo jos da napomenem, da ovo stavljam na suhu kosu.

Znam da su prirodni pakunzi zdraviji, ali malo mi mrsko... Zato nikada, osim ako bas ne moram, ne feniram kosu.
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