Re: Fahrin Avaz & avazovci - All about

[Skyfox]

ovaj je s teme stavite sliku nekog dobrog...

[-LIBERO-]

Jel i ovoga neko silovao?

Nije u pitanje silovanje.
U pitanju je dobrovoljni intimni odnos sa gos. Miskovicem

[don vito]

Scepo dogurao i do stranica crne hronike svog ABA3A

Radončić demantira navode svjedoka na suđenju Gašiju
Radi o osobi koju nikada u životu nisam upoznao niti imao bilo kakve direktne ili indirektne kontakte, ističe Fahrudin Radončić
Povodom današnjeg svjedočenja pred Kantonalnim sudom u Sarajevu svjedoka optužbe na suđenju Gašiju i ostalim Munibe Tutundžić, koja je izjavila da joj se kriminalac i osumnjičeni za ubistvo Ramiza Delalića Ćele, Ljirim Bitići, navodno, hvalio kako je upoznao više ljudi u Sarajevu, pa čak i "vlasnika hotela Radončića", mogu samo reći da se radi o osobi koju nikada u životu nisam upoznao niti imao bilo kakve direktne ili indirektne kontakte, kaže se u saopštenju vlasnika Društva za izdavačku i štamparsku djelatnost "Avaz a- roto press" Fahrudina Radončića.
- Također, molim tužioca Olega Čavku da ne participira u očito vrlo providnom i politički motiviranom pokušaju mog kriminaliziranja upravo od lobija o čijem djelovanju su puni dosijei Tužilaštva KS, navodi se u saopštenju.

[Thinker]

Vjerovatno će se uskoro anonimnim pismom u Avazu oglasiti sindikat kriminalca koje će u potpunosti negirati navode koji su izneseni na suđenju tvrdeći da niko od njihovih članova nikada nije imao veze sa Radončićem.

[zonbirile]

ne može se tvrditi da je odnos bio obostrano prihvačen,jer poštujući novinarsku etiku,Avaz je trebao uzeti izjavu i od konja.Evo ne zna se ni da li je konj,ili kobila,što je za ovu vjest vrlo važno,u slučaju da je konj trebalo bi obavjestiti protivnike istopolnog sexa ,da i oni dignu svoj glas.Drugo,a isto značajno nije istraženo u duhu novinarskog istraživanja svojstveno novinarima Avaza,kojke je "marke" konj-lipicaner,arapski,tegleći,trkači i more drugih važnih a otvorenih pitanja.Ako je lipicaner,da nije Haretov,arapski je već udar na vjeru i naciju,tegleći,je eben sam od sebe,a trkačeg je interesantno kako ga je stigao.

[armin_tz]

hahahaha

[dezurni_ucenik]

.

[LAIBACH KUNST]

ja mislim da se ovdje neko zeza

svi smi mi jedan veliki experiment

ljudi ispituju dokle će budale kupovati takve novine...

Ja bih rekao da to nisu novine,nego potjernica!!!

[zonbirile]

stanite ljudi,niko od čitalaca da pita,da li je korištena zaštita pri odnosu

[Hendrix]

Vjerovatno će se uskoro anonimnim pismom u Avazu oglasiti sindikat kriminalaca koje će u potpunosti negirati navode koji su izneseni na suđenju tvrdeći da niko od njihovih članova nikada nije imao veze sa Radončićem.

[zimomor]

ja mislim da se ovdje neko zeza

svi smi mi jedan veliki experiment

ljudi ispituju dokle će budale kupovati takve novine...

Ja bih rekao da to nisu novine,nego potjernica!!!

[Gandalf]

Avaz jedino može konkurisati Perfexu jer s Perfexom lakše se briše E pa sa Avazom se najlakše briše

[VjecitiStudent]

Lazu, lazu, lazu bez pardona.

Zadnji primjer:

Avaz je primjer uspjeha i u New York Timesu
http://www.dnevniavaz.ba/dogadjaji/moza ... ork-timesu

Evo i originalnog clanka u NY Timesu, gdje Avaz nije spomenut niti jedan, jedini put, osim sto se na ovoj slicici da procitati natpis na neboderu

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/world ... wanted=all
February 8, 2009
War’s Lingering Scars Slow Bosnia’s Economic Growth
By DAN BILEFSKY

SARAJEVO, Bosnia and Herzegovina — During the three-and-a-half-year siege of Sarajevo in the 1990s, Brano Vujicic provided Internet access to thousands in Bosnia, braving Serbian grenades thrown under his window and countering the constant electricity cuts by hacking into the Bosnian president’s power supply.

“Doing business was an act of defiance and escape,” said Mr. Vujicic, who managed to send e-mail messages to friends and clients twice a day during the height of the siege. “We needed a way out of Sarajevo and a way to communicate with the world.”

Fourteen years later, Mr. Vujicic — who is part Serb, part Croat — leads Ping, a computer and software engineering company that serves clients in the banking, food processing and pharmaceutical sectors and has $2.5 million in annual revenue.

These days, his chief challenge is finding skilled computer engineers and drumming up business in a country where government bureaucracy absorbs a staggering 50 percent of the gross domestic product and the average monthly wage is about $450. Even with 25 percent unemployment, he complains, it is hard to find qualified employees since the best engineers have left.

Bosnia, a former Yugoslav republic, was already struggling with the transition from communism to capitalism when it became mired in a war from 1992 to 1995 that killed 100,000 people and decimated its infrastructure.

Today, the country known as Bosnia and Herzegovina has a new class of young entrepreneurs, a growing influx of tourists and new shopping malls selling everything from luxury ski equipment to mango bathing gel. But the country remains weighed down not just by a bloated bureaucracy, but also by a national brand inextricably linked with ethnic violence and an economy overly dependent on foreign aid.

With fears rising about political tensions and a renewed determination in Europe and the United States to bring stability to the region, Bosnia’s ability to develop a sustainable economy has become a crucial test.

Business people complain that navigating a byzantine regulatory system remains a hassle. While the Dayton accords ended the war, they also created two autonomous regions within Bosnia, the Muslim-Croat federation and the Bosnian Serb republic. The result is a bloated public sector, presided over by 160 government ministers.

Bosnians joke that if you go to Marshal Tito Street in the center of Sarajevo, the capital, and shout “minister,” 50 people will turn their heads. “This overabundance of public sector officials is impeding growth,” said Irena Jankulov, an economist in Sarajevo with the International Monetary Fund, which monitors the country’s economic performance.

Nihad Imamovic is president of ASA Prevent, an important exporter that produces upholstery for the global car industry, sells Volkswagen cars and employs 3,500 people in Bosnia. The plucky, fuel-efficient Volkswagen Golf has “war hero” status in Bosnia because when fuel supplies were scarce during the war, Sarajevans managed to power Golfs using cooking oil and oil from power stations.

Mr. Imamovic, president of the Bosnian Employers’ Association, said political instability was undermining the economy, along with unnecessary duplication of agencies in the two regions: 11 health funds and 11 employment agencies in the Muslim-Croat federation alone, for example. A bloated bureaucracy is also hampering business. It takes 60 days to start a company in Bosnia, according to the World Bank, compared with 5 days in Hungary or 9 days in Afghanistan.

Social costs for employers are also punishing, with more than 40 percent of gross wages in the federation going toward social security, health care and taxes. Added taxes to support the forestry and tourism sectors cost ASA Prevent $1 million more a year.

Bosnia, with a population of 4.5 million, has not been immune to the global crisis. In the past two months, more than 6,500 people have lost their jobs, straining the country’s already overburdened benefits system. That followed panicked hoarding in October, when tens of thousands of people lined up at banks and demanded their deposits; such was the frenzy to store cash that people in Sarajevo struggled to find unrented vaults and safes.

Ms. Jankulov of the monetary fund said the reaction was a hangover from the war and the Yugoslav era, when Yugoslav banks collapsed and inflation jumped to 1,000 percent. But she was quick to add that confidence had since been restored.

Kemal Kozaric, governor of the Bosnian Central Bank, said growth was expected to halve to 3 percent in 2009. But he emphasized that the economy’s foundations were solid, including foreign-owned banks with a high degree of liquidity.

Mr. Kozaric said Bosnia’s economic potential was in aluminum and steel production and, in the long term, in energy, particularly hydroelectricity and coal. The government plans to build eight hydroelectric plants to transform Bosnia into a regional energy hub, with a surplus for export.

But the country’s current dependence on Russian natural gas became all too apparent during the recent cut in supplies that left 100,000 households shivering and required an aluminum plant, Birac, and Bosnia’s largest steel maker, ArcelorMittal Zenica, to partly suspend production.

Business people in Sarajevo say the economy will get a lift if Bosnia succeeds in joining the European Union. But European officials lament that progress is flagging because of infighting between the country’s regions, along with corruption and organized crime.

Lacking the benefit of the European Union’s borderless travel, Mr. Vujicic, the computer entrepreneur, said that a recent business trip to Ancona, Italy, required him to stand in lines for hours at the Italian Consulate and present “half a kilogram of papers” to obtain a visa.

An economic gulf also appears to be growing between Bosnia’s two regions, with privatization of state-owned industries in the Muslim-Croat federation proceeding slowly compared with the Bosnian Serb republic.

At the same time, a surge in Russian investment in the Serbian republic is fanning fears in the West that the entity is becoming a vassal of the Kremlin. In April, the Serbian prime minister, Milorad Dodik, sold majority stakes in the country’s sole state-owned oil refinery, a lubricant producer, and a fuel retailer to the Russian state oil firm for $155 million.

While ethnic tensions continue to poison politics, some business people remain hopeful that economics could trump nationalism. Ljubo Kovac, the Serb owner of Rubin, a wood-processing company in the Bosnian Serb republic that which makes door and window frames, said his clients included dozens of Muslim Bosnians and Catholic Croats.

“Business is going on between the disparate ethnic groups,” he said. “It is the politicians who create all the problems.”

But Mr. Vujicic, whose company is based in Sarajevo, which has a Muslim majority, said he had given up bidding for contracts in the Bosnian Serb republic because he always lost out to Serb-run companies.

Despite those and other difficulties, he said, Bosnia’s most pressing need was an image makeover that help attract more foreign investment.

“The war brand attached to us remains a problem,” he said, “because people who want to invest here still can’t get over the past.”

[Thinker]

Lazu, lazu, lazu bez pardona.

Zadnji primjer:

Avaz je primjer uspjeha i u New York Timesu
http://www.dnevniavaz.ba/dogadjaji/moza ... ork-timesu

Evo i originalnog clanka u NY Timesu, gdje Avaz nije spomenut niti jedan, jedini put, osim sto se na ovoj slicici da procitati natpis na neboderu

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/world ... wanted=all
February 8, 2009
War’s Lingering Scars Slow Bosnia’s Economic Growth
By DAN BILEFSKY

SARAJEVO, Bosnia and Herzegovina — During the three-and-a-half-year siege of Sarajevo in the 1990s, Brano Vujicic provided Internet access to thousands in Bosnia, braving Serbian grenades thrown under his window and countering the constant electricity cuts by hacking into the Bosnian president’s power supply.

“Doing business was an act of defiance and escape,” said Mr. Vujicic, who managed to send e-mail messages to friends and clients twice a day during the height of the siege. “We needed a way out of Sarajevo and a way to communicate with the world.”

Fourteen years later, Mr. Vujicic — who is part Serb, part Croat — leads Ping, a computer and software engineering company that serves clients in the banking, food processing and pharmaceutical sectors and has $2.5 million in annual revenue.

These days, his chief challenge is finding skilled computer engineers and drumming up business in a country where government bureaucracy absorbs a staggering 50 percent of the gross domestic product and the average monthly wage is about $450. Even with 25 percent unemployment, he complains, it is hard to find qualified employees since the best engineers have left.

Bosnia, a former Yugoslav republic, was already struggling with the transition from communism to capitalism when it became mired in a war from 1992 to 1995 that killed 100,000 people and decimated its infrastructure.

Today, the country known as Bosnia and Herzegovina has a new class of young entrepreneurs, a growing influx of tourists and new shopping malls selling everything from luxury ski equipment to mango bathing gel. But the country remains weighed down not just by a bloated bureaucracy, but also by a national brand inextricably linked with ethnic violence and an economy overly dependent on foreign aid.

With fears rising about political tensions and a renewed determination in Europe and the United States to bring stability to the region, Bosnia’s ability to develop a sustainable economy has become a crucial test.

Business people complain that navigating a byzantine regulatory system remains a hassle. While the Dayton accords ended the war, they also created two autonomous regions within Bosnia, the Muslim-Croat federation and the Bosnian Serb republic. The result is a bloated public sector, presided over by 160 government ministers.

Bosnians joke that if you go to Marshal Tito Street in the center of Sarajevo, the capital, and shout “minister,” 50 people will turn their heads. “This overabundance of public sector officials is impeding growth,” said Irena Jankulov, an economist in Sarajevo with the International Monetary Fund, which monitors the country’s economic performance.

Nihad Imamovic is president of ASA Prevent, an important exporter that produces upholstery for the global car industry, sells Volkswagen cars and employs 3,500 people in Bosnia. The plucky, fuel-efficient Volkswagen Golf has “war hero” status in Bosnia because when fuel supplies were scarce during the war, Sarajevans managed to power Golfs using cooking oil and oil from power stations.

Mr. Imamovic, president of the Bosnian Employers’ Association, said political instability was undermining the economy, along with unnecessary duplication of agencies in the two regions: 11 health funds and 11 employment agencies in the Muslim-Croat federation alone, for example. A bloated bureaucracy is also hampering business. It takes 60 days to start a company in Bosnia, according to the World Bank, compared with 5 days in Hungary or 9 days in Afghanistan.

Social costs for employers are also punishing, with more than 40 percent of gross wages in the federation going toward social security, health care and taxes. Added taxes to support the forestry and tourism sectors cost ASA Prevent $1 million more a year.

Bosnia, with a population of 4.5 million, has not been immune to the global crisis. In the past two months, more than 6,500 people have lost their jobs, straining the country’s already overburdened benefits system. That followed panicked hoarding in October, when tens of thousands of people lined up at banks and demanded their deposits; such was the frenzy to store cash that people in Sarajevo struggled to find unrented vaults and safes.

Ms. Jankulov of the monetary fund said the reaction was a hangover from the war and the Yugoslav era, when Yugoslav banks collapsed and inflation jumped to 1,000 percent. But she was quick to add that confidence had since been restored.

Kemal Kozaric, governor of the Bosnian Central Bank, said growth was expected to halve to 3 percent in 2009. But he emphasized that the economy’s foundations were solid, including foreign-owned banks with a high degree of liquidity.

Mr. Kozaric said Bosnia’s economic potential was in aluminum and steel production and, in the long term, in energy, particularly hydroelectricity and coal. The government plans to build eight hydroelectric plants to transform Bosnia into a regional energy hub, with a surplus for export.

But the country’s current dependence on Russian natural gas became all too apparent during the recent cut in supplies that left 100,000 households shivering and required an aluminum plant, Birac, and Bosnia’s largest steel maker, ArcelorMittal Zenica, to partly suspend production.

Business people in Sarajevo say the economy will get a lift if Bosnia succeeds in joining the European Union. But European officials lament that progress is flagging because of infighting between the country’s regions, along with corruption and organized crime.

Lacking the benefit of the European Union’s borderless travel, Mr. Vujicic, the computer entrepreneur, said that a recent business trip to Ancona, Italy, required him to stand in lines for hours at the Italian Consulate and present “half a kilogram of papers” to obtain a visa.

An economic gulf also appears to be growing between Bosnia’s two regions, with privatization of state-owned industries in the Muslim-Croat federation proceeding slowly compared with the Bosnian Serb republic.

At the same time, a surge in Russian investment in the Serbian republic is fanning fears in the West that the entity is becoming a vassal of the Kremlin. In April, the Serbian prime minister, Milorad Dodik, sold majority stakes in the country’s sole state-owned oil refinery, a lubricant producer, and a fuel retailer to the Russian state oil firm for $155 million.

While ethnic tensions continue to poison politics, some business people remain hopeful that economics could trump nationalism. Ljubo Kovac, the Serb owner of Rubin, a wood-processing company in the Bosnian Serb republic that which makes door and window frames, said his clients included dozens of Muslim Bosnians and Catholic Croats.

“Business is going on between the disparate ethnic groups,” he said. “It is the politicians who create all the problems.”

But Mr. Vujicic, whose company is based in Sarajevo, which has a Muslim majority, said he had given up bidding for contracts in the Bosnian Serb republic because he always lost out to Serb-run companies.

Despite those and other difficulties, he said, Bosnia’s most pressing need was an image makeover that help attract more foreign investment.

“The war brand attached to us remains a problem,” he said, “because people who want to invest here still can’t get over the past.”

Tebi dugujem izvinjenje, ovako javno

[VjecitiStudent]

Navikli smo na avazovstinu, ali oni ponekad nadmase sami sebe.
Sramotno.

http://www.dnevniavaz.ba/dogadjaji/moza ... -zlatkovim
Hoće li Komšić Titov portret zamijeniti Zlatkovim!
Željko Komšić, "Zlatni ljiljan" Armije BiH, daje podršku i novinaru koji je na Mladićevom tenku ušao u Srebrenicu...
15.02.2009. 03:30

Doista je dirljiv bio susret člana Predsjedništva BiH Željka Komšića sa novinarima televizijskog magazina "60 minuta" u njegovom kabinetu u zgradi Predsjedništva BiH.

U šarolikoj skupini takozvanih nezavisnih novinara našao se i Slobodan Vasković, ratni izvještač i propagandista Vojske RS, čovjek koji je na Mladićevom tenku ušao u Srebrenicu u julu 1995. godine i slavodobitno veličao "osvetu Turcima", četničke zločine i pokolj Srebreničana.

Savijena kičma

Taj sramni detalj iz Vaskovićeve biografije očito nije zasmetao Komšiću, nositelju "Zlatnog ljiljana" i nekadašnjem pripadniku Armije RBiH. Dostojanstvo branitelja BiH ustuknulo je pred direktivom partije, a direktiva kaže da su u borbi protiv "kriminaliziranih bošnjačkih političkih prvaka, poglavara Islamske zajednice i bošnjačkih privrednika" sva sredstva dozvoljena. Pa i kolaboracija sa moralnim spodobama poput Slobodana Vaskovića.

Komšićevo ponašanje u svakom slučaju ne iznenađuje. Nakon što je savio kičmu do poda i krajnje ulizivački spjevao degutantnu odu kandidaturi svoga šefa Zlatka Lagumdžije za mjesto predsjednika SDP-a, od Komšića se može očekivati samo daljnje tonjenje u ambis beščašća.

U politikantskoj kalkulaciji njemu i njegovom predsjedniku puno je važnije da podrškom ekipi "60 minuta" očuvaju nedodirljivi status svete krave u ovoj emisiji, iako je, da se poslužimo rječnikom Bakira Hadžiomerovića, upravo Lagumdžija "dokazani kriminalac, otimač budžetskog novca i bogataš koji je novac stekao pljačkajući osiromašeni narod".

A i za Komšića se štošta šuška, posebno iz perioda njegovog neprikosnovenog gazdovanja sarajevskom općinom Novo Sarajevo, te u vezi s poslovima firme "Revicon", na čijem čelu je bio zajedno sa partijskim drugom i također Lagumdžijinim poslušnikom Marinom Ivaniševićem.

Privatni spiker

Naravno, prijem u zgradi Predsjedništva BiH miljama je daleko od priče o podršci slobodnom i nezavisnom novinarstvu.

"Lider", koji je stvarni urednik inkvizicijskih "60 minuta", može biti zadovoljan. Svog privatnog spikera, Bakira Hadžiomerovića, još je čvršće vezao za svog privatnog člana Predsjedništva BiH Željka Komšića. Ideološko-interesni savez političara i novinara je ogoljen do kraja. Samo je falilo da Željko, onako pred kamerama, skine sa zida Titinu sliku i postavi portret Zlatka Lagumdžije.


Autor: F. MANDAL

[Qler]

sto se radoncic okomio i na 60 minuta, valjda mu ne godi istina. i sad nakon par brojeva, i tekstova o tome kako je 60 minuta anti-bosnjacka emisija svi ce vjerni avazovci dici glas na ftv i bakira.


stvarno je avaz dno novinarstva...

[-LIBERO-]

komšić daje podršku novinaru koji je bio sa mladićem,a radončić pravi firme sa tajkunom koji je finansirao miloševića i danas finansira sve političke stranke u srbiji osim LDP čede jovanovića,koji je ,ako je vjerovati avazu ,pritajeni četnik i čovjek opasnih namjera prema bih

Cedo Jovanovic cetnik

Daj nemoj mi reci da su stvarno i to napisali u ABA3U

[alijadzigibau]

Nema dalje sto jes jes

[edinbug]

Navikli smo na avazovstinu, ali oni ponekad nadmase sami sebe.
Sramotno.

http://www.dnevniavaz.ba/dogadjaji/moza ... -zlatkovim
Hoće li Komšić Titov portret zamijeniti Zlatkovim!
Željko Komšić, "Zlatni ljiljan" Armije BiH, daje podršku i novinaru koji je na Mladićevom tenku ušao u Srebrenicu...
15.02.2009. 03:30

Doista je dirljiv bio susret člana Predsjedništva BiH Željka Komšića sa novinarima televizijskog magazina "60 minuta" u njegovom kabinetu u zgradi Predsjedništva BiH.

U šarolikoj skupini takozvanih nezavisnih novinara našao se i Slobodan Vasković, ratni izvještač i propagandista Vojske RS, čovjek koji je na Mladićevom tenku ušao u Srebrenicu u julu 1995. godine i slavodobitno veličao "osvetu Turcima", četničke zločine i pokolj Srebreničana.

Savijena kičma

Taj sramni detalj iz Vaskovićeve biografije očito nije zasmetao Komšiću, nositelju "Zlatnog ljiljana" i nekadašnjem pripadniku Armije RBiH. Dostojanstvo branitelja BiH ustuknulo je pred direktivom partije, a direktiva kaže da su u borbi protiv "kriminaliziranih bošnjačkih političkih prvaka, poglavara Islamske zajednice i bošnjačkih privrednika" sva sredstva dozvoljena. Pa i kolaboracija sa moralnim spodobama poput Slobodana Vaskovića.

Komšićevo ponašanje u svakom slučaju ne iznenađuje. Nakon što je savio kičmu do poda i krajnje ulizivački spjevao degutantnu odu kandidaturi svoga šefa Zlatka Lagumdžije za mjesto predsjednika SDP-a, od Komšića se može očekivati samo daljnje tonjenje u ambis beščašća.

U politikantskoj kalkulaciji njemu i njegovom predsjedniku puno je važnije da podrškom ekipi "60 minuta" očuvaju nedodirljivi status svete krave u ovoj emisiji, iako je, da se poslužimo rječnikom Bakira Hadžiomerovića, upravo Lagumdžija "dokazani kriminalac, otimač budžetskog novca i bogataš koji je novac stekao pljačkajući osiromašeni narod".

A i za Komšića se štošta šuška, posebno iz perioda njegovog neprikosnovenog gazdovanja sarajevskom općinom Novo Sarajevo, te u vezi s poslovima firme "Revicon", na čijem čelu je bio zajedno sa partijskim drugom i također Lagumdžijinim poslušnikom Marinom Ivaniševićem.

Privatni spiker

Naravno, prijem u zgradi Predsjedništva BiH miljama je daleko od priče o podršci slobodnom i nezavisnom novinarstvu.

"Lider", koji je stvarni urednik inkvizicijskih "60 minuta", može biti zadovoljan. Svog privatnog spikera, Bakira Hadžiomerovića, još je čvršće vezao za svog privatnog člana Predsjedništva BiH Željka Komšića. Ideološko-interesni savez političara i novinara je ogoljen do kraja. Samo je falilo da Željko, onako pred kamerama, skine sa zida Titinu sliku i postavi portret Zlatka Lagumdžije.


Autor: F. MANDAL

Samo IDIOTI mogu podrzavati ovakvu "novinu", ovakvo govno od novinara kao sto je taj Mandal, i po stoti put konstatujem, koja crna demokratija, kakva pobjeda gradanskih opcija pored G. Bukovica, reisa, Avaza ...

[VjecitiStudent]

Samo IDIOTI mogu podrzavati ovakvu "novinu", ovakvo govno od novinara kao sto je taj Mandal, i po stoti put konstatujem, koja crna demokratija, kakva pobjeda gradanskih opcija pored G. Bukovica, reisa, Avaza ...

Ponekad ne znam sta me vise nervira, avazovstina ili sdpovska kuknjava uzrokovana strahom od ove provincijske novine.

[HAVANA]

Mene avazovština.

[callmethebreeeze]

avaz je zlo zla, fuj, fuj, fuj. tesko da ista moze gore biti od avaza.

[HAVANA]

avaz je zlo zla, fuj, fuj, fuj. tesko da ista moze gore biti od avaza.

Može EXSPRES

[ZXSpectrum]

to je cisti profesionalizam covjek je zastitio indetitet konja da ne bi popio tuzbu od drustva za zastitu zivotinja valja braniti havazov oblakoder

[zimomor]

Jeste vidjeli jutros na naslovnoj stranici "SNIJEG ZAVIJAO BiH"?