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grbavica70 wrote:Oni novinari koji su zeljeli da dodju, oni su i dosli...bilo je potrebno samo izvaditi akreditacije i gotovo, kao sto je uradila Peni Marsal, "cuvena" novinarka ITN-a...ciji su snimci onog tuberana obisli svijet, kao da je u konc-logoru.

ITN and two of its reporters have won £375,000 in High Court libel damages from a Marxist magazine which claimed they had faked pictures of Bosnian Serb war crimes.

Reporters Penny Marshall and Ian Williams were each awarded £150,000 over the Living Marxism story which called into question ITN's coverage of the Bosnian war.

The left-wing magazine was also ordered to pay £75,000 to ITN for libelling them in a February 1997 article.

Prenj wrote: Lazes i izmisljas, po obicaju, kao i svi paranoicni nacionalisti: Rusi sami sebi djecu ubijaju (nisu krivi Ceceni), Sarajevo je samo sebe bombardovalo, Amerikanci su sami sebi srusili nebodere, ..., duga je lista.
Tragicna je gomila gluposti koju paranoicni, nacionalizmom zarazeni mozak moze da izvali.

grbavica70 wrote:film je dobar ali su ga usrali sa onom slikom oficira VRS koji nosi oznake VJ...

manijak1 wrote:Pa trava ide ali poslije drame.
Jer ako odeš u dramu takav ne vraćaš se u slijedeći čin.

grbavica70 wrote: Peni Marsal, "cuvena" novinarka ITN-a...ciji su snimci onog tuberana obisli svijet, kao da je u konc-logoru

grbavica70 wrote: Cuj, lazem i izmisljam ? Jesu li ti ovo svi dokazi ili imas jos ? Ja sam ti fino odgovorio na pitanje a ti bez ijednog argumenta vrijedjas da lazem....Ajde reci sta sam slagao i obrazlozi necim, jebi ga....Ajde dokazi nekako da sam nesto slagao....Ti ko dijete, sviju mi.

grbavica70 wrote:Nisam nikada rekao da je Peni Marasal izmislila bilo sta, pogotovo ne logor, ali je cinjenica da su snimci upotrebljeni u svrhe medijske propagande i izmisljotina nevidjenih...

Jedno pitanje : ako je tada zaista postojao logor i ako je zaista to bio kon-logor ( kako je izvjestio ITN) iz kojih razloga bi vlasti RS-a dozvolile pristup tom logoru ? Eto, jedno prosto pitanje...
Ako mislis da su Srbi glupi pa pokazali svijetu kako muce gladju neke tamo logorase, to je druga stvar, ali budi siguran da niko nije glup.

Novinarka je snimila sta je snimila i bez velike euforije se vratila u Britaniju i tek kasnije, kada je njen gazda pogledao snimke, odlucio je da od bodljikave zice napravi pricu koja ce se prodati sirom svijeta. Vrlo dobro znamo obojica da onaj tuberan nije izgladnjivan, jer su svi oko njega dobro ugojeni, ali je taj nesretnik prikazivan kao jevrej iz njemackog konc-logora, sto je zlocinacki, neutemeljeno, neistinito i krajnje tendenciozno....Znamo obojica da je bio tuberan, zar ne, kao i cinjenicu da to nije bio konc - logor, jer su se IZBJEGLICE ( a ne zatvorenici) nalazi VAN BODLJIKAVE ZICE a ne unutar, sto je jasno bilo kome koji je makar jednom pogledao snimak. Snimak Peni Marsal je postao "slavan" jer je neko provalio da moze dobro da se proda.

Jos jednom : da je tamo bilo nekih zvjerstava i izgladnjivanja u to vrijeme, nikada kamera ITN, niti bilo koja druga, nikad ne bi mogla prici ni blizu.

THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL TRIBUNAL FOR THE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA

CASE NO. IT-94-1-I

THE PROSECUTOR OF THE TRIBUNAL

AGAINST


DUSAN TADIC a/k/a "DULE"
GORAN BOROVNICA


INDICTMENT




Richard J Goldstone, Prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, pursuant to his authority under Article 18 of the Statute of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia ("The Statute of the Tribunal"), charges:


1. From about 25 May 1992 Serb forces attacked Bosnian Muslim and Croat population centers in the opstina of Prijedor, Bosnia-Herzegovina, forcing most Muslims and Croats from their homes and confining many thousands, including more than 3,000 who were held in the Omarska camp, a former mining complex. The accused Dusan TADIC a/k/a "Dule" a/k/a "Dusko", participated in the collection and mistreatment, including killings, of Bosnian Muslims and Croats in opstina Prijedor within Omarska camp and outside Omarska camp, as set forth below. The accused Goran BOROVNICA participated with Dusan TADIC in killings outside of Omarska camp, as set forth below:


BACKGROUND


2.1. In May, 1992, intensive shelling of Muslim areas in the opstina Prijedor caused the Muslim residents to flee their homes. The majority of them then surrendered or were captured by Serb forces. As the Serb forces rounded up the Muslims and any Croat residents, they forced the Muslims and Croats to march in columns bound for one or another of the prison camps that the Serbs had established in the opstina. The Serb forces pulled many of the Muslims and Croats from the columns and shot or beat them on the spot.


2.2. On about 25 May 1992, about three weeks after Serbs forcibly took control of government authority in the opstina, and two days after the start of large scale military attacks on Muslim population centers, the Serb forces began taking prisoners to the Omarska camp.


2.3. During the next several weeks, the Serb forces continued to round up Muslims and Croats from Kozarac, Prijedor town, and other places in the opstina and interned them in the camps. Many of Prijedor's Muslim and Croat intellectuals, professional and political leaders were sent to Omarska. There were approximately 40 women in the camp, and all the other prisoners in the camp were men.


2.4. Within the area of the Omarska mining complex that was used for the camp, the camp authorities generally confined the prisoners in three different buildings: the administration building, where interrogations took place and most of the women were confined; the garage or hangar building; the "white house," a small building where particularly severe beatings were administered; and on a cement courtyard area between the buildings known as the "pista". There was another small building, known as the "red house", where prisoners were sometimes taken but most often did not emerge alive.


2.5. Living conditions at Omarska were brutal. Prisoners were crowded together with little or no facilities for personal hygiene. They were fed starvation rations once a day and given only three minutes to get into the canteen area, eat, and get out. The little water they received was ordinarily foul. Prisoners had no changes of clothing and no bedding. They received no medical care.


2.6. Severe beatings were commonplace. The camp guards, and others who came to the camp and physically abused the prisoners, used all manner of weapons during these beatings, including wooden batons, metal rods and tools, lengths of thick industrial cable that had metal balls affixed to the end, rifle butts, and knives. Both female and male prisoners were beaten, tortured, raped, sexually assaulted, and humiliated. Many, whose identities are known and unknown, did not survive the camp. After the collection of thousands of Bosnian Muslims and Croats in later May, 1992, groups of Serbs including the accused later entered villages in which Muslims and Croats remained, at which time they killed some villagers and drove others from their homes.
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grbavica70 wrote:Vidi njega...ko je ikada napisao da je logor bio "raj", sta lupetas ??

Hoces li se ti nauciti da ne trpas rijeci u usta nekoga koji ih nikada nije izgovorio ??

Prica je bila o Peni Marsal, a ne o onome sto je uslijedilo kasnije...O tome ne mogu da pricam jer ne znam, a ako je neko tamo kasnije priznao da je ubijao ili mucio, onda ce za to biti i osudjen...Medjutim, nije se o tome pricalo, nego o Peni Marsal i njenoj reportazi. Vrati se na temu, ne razvodjnjavaj i ne prosiruj na dogadjaje koji su desili kasnije...Uostalom, ti dobro znas sta Srbi misle o sudu u Hagu, zar ne ?

.2. On about 25 May 1992, about three weeks after Serbs forcibly took control of government authority in the opstina, and two days after the start of large scale military attacks on Muslim population centers, the Serb forces began taking prisoners to the Omarska camp.

grbavica70 wrote:U reportazi Peni Marsal, na njeno pitanje sta rade tu ISPRED ZICE, skoro svi su rekli da su tu dosli da se sklone od rata i da su izbjeglice...za mene i sve ostale pametne ljude - sasvim dovoljno.
Pogledaj opet reportazu pa se vrati.

Sta je bilo kasnije, to nije tema ove price.

AjvazDedo wrote:Star film znam, ali vase misljenje o filmu?