ISTANBUL (let's meet where the continents meet)

zlata · Post by **zlata** » 09/08/2004 18:30

Sorge moj

Jes valla. Trebam se sad bas "divit" Turcima...k'o Dalmosi kad odu u Veneciju...pa odusevljeni ZABORAVE...kol'ko su krvavo odrintali...za sve te palace.

I tako u dahu...odusevljeni svojom "rimsko-zapadnom" civilizacijom...zaborave na robovanje, galije, oguljene otoke, Mussolinija, fasiste. Zaborave da to nije NJIHOVO. Tako cemo i mi svi u "Stambol". Pa da. Nasa carsija. Moji didovi harac skupljali i tamo slali. Valjda imam i ja pravo na nju.

Samo se ti bavi znanjem..i govori drugima kol'ko su budale i neznalice.

U medjuvremenu..upali malo Um Kalthum, malo Maria Rita (dobra nova pjevacica...konkurise za Grammy), malo Astor Piazzola, i jos mal'ko Carlinhos Brown. To ti je moj repertoar...FOR TODAY. Buen Aprovecho. Uzivaj.

BECHO · Post by **BECHO** » 09/08/2004 18:40

Ma zivio govornik! Tako je zlato, treba srusit sve one dzamije sto su nam 'turski imperijalisti i haraci (Mladic je spominjao dahije u Srebrenici) ostavili u amanet' pa cak i te dvije u tvom dijelu Bosne! Jel tako? Tugo moja pregolema...

Nego, vrijeme je da se i ti vratis vjeri svojih pradjedova!

zlata · Post by **zlata** » 09/08/2004 18:57

BECHO
Ti ocito samo VIDIS dzamije.

Istanbul · Post by **Istanbul** » 09/08/2004 19:10

A night view of Levent Istanbul.

BECHO · Post by **BECHO** » 09/08/2004 19:18

zlata wrote:BECHO
Ti ocito samo VIDIS dzamije.

Ja ih samo VIDIM u tvojim tekstovima zlato i ocito je da ti smetaju...Hocemo ih srusit pa izgradit crkve, manastire, samostane?

zlata · Post by **zlata** » 09/08/2004 19:30

Ne Becho...meni je PRAVO krivo...sto su nas prosto izmuzli...odveli nam citavu vodecu klasu ljudi sa sobom...da sebi kroje Atatursku elitu...i ostav'li ovdje na milost i ne milost Ustasa i Cetnika.

Mi se zalimo na Srebrenicu. Pa jel'znas kol'ko je Bosanaca poginulo na Krimu...za Osmanlijsko Carstvo? I to je samo jedno..od njihovih krvavih zarista?

Puno sam vise ocekivala od Turaka u ovom ratu...bas od njih...i ne od ovih trofrtaljskih bradonja. Bili su nam DEBELO duzni.

Istanbul · Post by **Istanbul** » 09/08/2004 20:19

economical district of Istanbul at night; Levent...

Fair Life · Post by **Fair Life** » 10/08/2004 08:09

sorge_sa wrote:ma Zlata trabunja...........pojma nema sta prica......tamo negdje iz Canade.....drzi predavanja......o Bosni.....i Turskoj.....odavno glupljeg posta ne procitah.......... ........ne mogu da vjerujem..........brrrrrr.......najezih se......

Sooooooooooorgeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !

Fair Life · Post by **Fair Life** » 10/08/2004 08:10

Fair Life wrote:
sorge_sa wrote:ma Zlata trabunja...........pojma nema sta prica......tamo negdje iz Canade.....drzi predavanja......o Bosni.....i Turskoj.....odavno glupljeg posta ne procitah.......... ........ne mogu da vjerujem..........brrrrrr.......najezih se......
Sooooooooooorgeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee,
Happy Turkey Day !

Istanbul · Post by **Istanbul** » 11/08/2004 22:05

restaurant near Bosphorous Bridge..

Istanbul · Post by **Istanbul** » 15/08/2004 16:01

sun setting - Eminonu

Istanbul · Post by **Istanbul** » 29/08/2004 20:20

second bridge which is named for The Conqueror "Fatih Sultan Mehmet".

wels · Post by **wels** » 29/08/2004 20:38

Ja bih htel enu vak lepo dzamijo v Slovenijo.

Ne razumem zakaj smo mi Slovenci shupaki ke nasi ne dajo vzgraditi tak impresivnega objekta.

Avstrijskega jodlanja ampak mi je do za kurnisce.

stelium · Post by **stelium** » 29/08/2004 20:55

Ja se slazem sa Zlatom i pitam se zasto svaki jebeni Bosanac(islamske vjeroispovjesti-kao i ja) mora drkati na Turke,Tursku i taj jebeni islamski svjet.

Izvinjavam se na pojedinim izrazima ali jebiga tu sam senzibilan!

Istanbul · Post by **Istanbul** » 29/08/2004 21:02

wels i stelium neznasli ti Engleski

?

ja ne razumijem Bosanski

malo razumijem..

can u write what u said also in English or Turkish

?

wels · Post by **wels** » 29/08/2004 21:08

Istanbul wrote:wels i stelium neznasli ti Engleski ?

ja ne razumijem Bosanski malo razumijem..

can u write what u said also in English or Turkish ?

Ja ucil ruskij.

Istanbul · Post by **Istanbul** » 29/08/2004 21:28

wels wrote:
Ja ucil ruskij.

hvala

ili ja neznam ruskij

stelium · Post by **stelium** » 29/08/2004 21:34

@Istambul
When I go on some german forum(for example) i cann`t ask from people to speak my language or english!
You have two choices:
1.learn bosnian language
2.find somebody who likes Turkey and he/she will explain you everything on your language.

Ahmed.ibn.Fahalan · Post by **Ahmed.ibn.Fahalan** » 29/08/2004 23:06

Mislim da se Zlata malo zanijela..prije nasekirala..pa joj je post onako malo agresivan i mislim da nije u redu da napada ovog frajera kao sad on kriv. Ali to ne mijenja činjenicu, po mom mišljenju, da većina ovoga što ona kaže ima mjesta.

Ja sam imao priliku da upoznam dosta Turaka, na turskom Kipru, u Njemačkoj i zajednička nit svih njihovih izlaganja vezanih za Bosnu je da smo mi fin, druželjubiv narod itd..da mi se ponekad činilo kao da pričaju o kokeršpanijelima a ne o ljudima..ali kod turske omladine se još prave mitovi o Osmanlijama..recimo jedan od najpopularnijih je taj da oni misle da na svijetu ima 700 miliona Turaka?? kad sam ih pitao odkud vas toliko oni su počeli da mi nabrajaju od Turkmenistana, Tadžikistana..pa da ne nabrajam sve do Bosne?! Ja sam pokušavao da ih ubijedim da Bogami ni mi ni svi ti drugi što su ih nabrojali sebe ne smatraju Turcima..al đaba.

Drugi primjer o našoj ne baš tako prijateljskoj vezi sam našao u nekim starim knjigama o i iz tog perioda..koji da napomenem nisu srpska propaganda jer su ih pisali naši ljudi..u kojima se detaljno opisuju situacije iz svakodnevnog života u tadašnjoj Bosni i primjerima gdje su Turci više cijenili i poštovali kršćane nego muslimane..čak sam u jednoj od tih knjiga pronašao podatak da su nas Turci prozvali Poturicama a ne Srbi..e sad sve ovo može da bude neka fatamorgana ali stoji činjenica da kad god smo tražili ustupke iz Carigrada sve što smo dobili jesu bili Omer paše Latasi i slični đelati..ovo niko od vas ne može da pobije.

I na kraju još samo jedan primjer, gdje se slažem sa Zlatom, je činjenica da su nas u ovom ratu više pomogli Iranci, Saudijci, Kuvajćani i dr. nego Turci..a za dva naroda koja se, barem deklarativno, izjašnjavaju kao izuzetno prijateljski..to je po mom mišljenju sramota. Sa srbima su se borili Grci, Bugari, Ukrajinci, Rumuni, Rusi..itd a mi smo kao ispomoč dobili šaku fanatika sa drugog kraja svijeta koji..da budemo realni..bi se i jesu se borili svugdje gdje se može ubiti kršćanin, znači nije ih interesovala baš pretjerano naša politička situacija..Turci su ispali prave p. i pokazali su nam koliko ih interesujemo mi i naša patnja. Iranci su beton..armirani beton..i ako ima ijedan narod na svijetu koji nam je bezrezervno pomogao, to su oni.

Istanbul · Post by **Istanbul** » 18/09/2004 11:36

stelium wrote:@Istambul
When I go on some german forum(for example) i cann`t ask from people to speak my language or english!
You have two choices:
1.learn bosnian language
2.find somebody who likes Turkey and he/she will explain you everything on your language.

but i do like to speak with Bosnians

I hope to visit Sarajevo for opening ceremony of International University of Sarajevo in October.

by the way here the more for you

BOSPHORUS BRIDGE AT NIGHT...

CLICK TO SEE BIG SIZE

Istanbul · Post by **Istanbul** » 11/08/2006 22:18

BronhiCrew · Post by **BronhiCrew** » 12/08/2006 00:49

I love Turkey, in the sense of culture, architecture, and of course FOOD, but Zlata is 100% correct!!

Zlata will you marry me?
LOL

addo888 · Post by **addo888** » 12/08/2006 00:50

Zlata does not like the Turks,why?

I think they are good people,we share a common culture,history and same religion..we are traditionally a close people.

lejla_usa · Post by **lejla_usa** » 12/08/2006 13:13

Ergot wrote:
zlata wrote:Dear Istanbul

I get so PISSED off when I see the beautiful mosques and palaces of Istanbul.

I can't stop thinking of all THE MONEY and WEALTH that was taken out of Bosnia for the glory of the Ottomans.

Meanwhile...in Bosnia...in many places people built wooden mosques. That's all they could afford, after paying taxes to the sultans.

While I truly appreciate your interest in Bosnia and Bosnian people....REMEMBER....

TURKS CONQUERED US. KILLED OUR KING. USED US FOR 400 YEARS....AND THEN DUMPED US....left us alone....to struggle ALONE, with our rabid neighbours.

We don't need more RETURNING TURKS. We need more Bosnians...less Serbs, less Croats, fewer "Bosniaks" and sentimental Ottoman progeny...crying for the "old times", when "they" were beys, aghas, and pashas.

We don't want a neo-Turkish Bosnia of a privileged FEW. We want an equalitarian, independent Bosnia, for all the Bosnian people

Personally...I am shocked....and a little bit disgusted...that you are coming to Bosnia...AFTER ALL THESE YEARS...only to help open a PRIVATE UNIVERSITY.

Why don't you help improve...BOSNIA'S PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS that we already have? Otherwise...your role in our society, will be that of an INTELLECTUAL MERCENARY.
At the risk of coming across as playing this man's advocate or spokesperson:

You madam should acquire a life pronto. I don't remember seeing you foaming at the mouth about the wealth (if by ''wealth'' you mean raw materials and natural resources, which I assume you do) being extracted from our country by the likes of Deutsche Telecom, Daimler-Chrysler and other multinational corporate bloodsuckers. Don't even get me started on that wealth being used to bring forth and enrich a caste of criminally insane pseudo-oligarchs such as this country has never seen in her entire history, all of whom are of local ''manufacture''. However, you get ''pissed off'' at something that was happening 400 years ago, as if the Turks of today had anything in common with the Ottomans of old in terms of mentality etc., and as if they could be held accountable for the wrongdoings of an empire that perished ages ago. This repulsive frame of mind bears a striking resemblance to the Serbian fixation with the Battle of Kosovo and ''slavery under Turks''. Volumes have been written about how fucking retarded this primitive obsession is. Our king was killed not by the Turks, but by our own noblemen who struggled for power and severely weakened the central government. The poor lad couldn't even muster up a decent brigade of cavalry to meet the invaders. Hit the books before you unleash your petty jingoistic diatribes upon the forum. If you spent a single day at a public institution of high learning in BiH you would know that those establishments are corrupt beyond help. In fact, a process of further devaluation of the universities is underway at full throttle, and anyone whose head is not stuck in the depths of his own arse can tell why. Just look at the new rector of the UniSa, a mercenary from head to toe, but an intellectual... not in a million bloody years. Shall we blame the Turks? If Deutsche Telecom can set up an illegal GSM operator here, I see no reason why a private person from Turkey should not establish a university. There are a few more points in your post that I could address, but you already got five minutes of my time, which is five minutes more than your asinine rant deserves.

Potpisujem.

Skyfox · Post by **Skyfox** » 12/08/2006 23:21

Gledam nesto ove slike Istanbula, meni Sarajevo fakat ljepse.
Nije sto sam odavde

Sarajevo looks better to me, but I never seen Istanbul so I’m not objective.

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