#26
Posted: 01/08/2004 21:21
hajde u septembru cemo pokrenuti nesto konkretno ja sam vec stupio u prve kontakte sa svjetskom organizacijom
Hrvatska:
http://www.zelena-akcija.hr/index.html
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#27
Posted: 02/08/2004 01:21
#28
Posted: 01/05/2005 20:37
Soul_Sista wrote:U mom naselju su napravili tako da su podijelili smece na vise kategorija (ako se to tako moze nazvati) ili kako ovde to zovu "sortiranje" smeca. Jedan kontener je posebno za novine i papire, drugi je baska za kartone i kutije, treci posebno samo za kese sa smecem a cetvrti je za hranu kao otpad. Isto tako imaju posebne kutije za istrosene baterije.
Ovo je jedan jako dobar nacin da se sprijeci sirenje smeca u prirodu (naravno i kemikalije) i da se drzi na jednom mjestu. Naravno isto tako odgovornost lezi na svakom gradzanu da se drzi tog sistema "sortiranja" i da treba vremena da se privikne na taj sistem ali da je jedan dobar nacin i korak naprijed ako covjek hoce nesto da poduzme sto se tice pitanja "smece", "priroda" i "ciste ulice"...
Sta mislite o ovome??
Trazio sam pogodnu temu za jedan osvrt o reciklazi i odlucih se da to napisem ovdje. O cemu se radi?O tome da nismo ni svjesni koliko zlo nanosimo sebi nesavjesnim i neplanskim bacanjem smeca, na mjesta koja nam se u odredjenom trenutku ucine "podgodnim". Ljudi koji brinu o ocuvanju svoje okoline savjesno razvrstavaju otpadne materijale, a mnogo je i onih koji na taj nacin ostvaruju i enormno visoku dobit. Jedan primjer, ....
Nedavno sam imao priliku da posjetim jedan pogon u Holandiji, a koji se bavi reciklazom, necete vjerovati ...... "PAMPERS" pelena!!!
Ukratko, ...... kamioni dovoze pelene koje su sakupljene po domacinstvima, djecjim vrticima, bolnicama, starackim domovima i ne znam vec sa kojih jos lokacija. Da vas ne davim sa detaljima, na kraju tehnoloskog procesa dobijate uredno presovan blok papirnih vlakana, a na drugoj strani "balu" traka plasticne folije. Da, to je finalni proizvod ovog pogona (fabrike) za reciklazu pelena.
Sta se radi sa tim proizvodima? Papirna vlakna se prodaju fabrikama za proizvodnju kartona, novinskog papira, industrijskim pogonima za proizvodnju nekih dijelova obuce (ulosci za obucu).
Plasticne trake se prodaju industrijskim pogonima koji proizvode plasticne oluke i slivnike, materijal za pokrivanje krovova i slicno.
Nije lose, zar ne!? Ocuvana priroda, fabrika zaposljava 40-ak radnika koji imaju dosta visoka primanja, ...... gazda para k`o sodera. Istina je, .... u fabrici smrdi kao u kanalizaciji.
Evo, .... dobra ideja za nekog tajkuna, a vi ..... kad u ruke uzmete "Avaz" ili neku drugu novinu, ..... kad stavite ulozak u cipelu ili pokrivate krov svoje oronule kuce, sjetite se upisane i ukakljene holandske djecurlije.
Zar nije bolje da nam u novine i cipele kake nasa djeca? 
#29
Posted: 01/05/2005 20:43
#30
Posted: 01/05/2005 21:10
Sta raditi?
Postavljati cesce slike na forumu prelijepog zelenila i brdovite BiH da ljudi uvide tj. da im udje u svijest u kakvoj prelijepoj zemlji zive i da je vazno da se spuste vise na zemlju (i mane se boga i nacije) i da je vrijeme da se bore za nasto sto ce valjda ostaviti i buducim generacijama.
A ima prelijepih slika, otvorite samo Fluov link na kulturi...a kad nas bude dovoljno dosta onda se mozda i organizujemo i nesto konkretno poduzmemo.
Do tad, voozzzzzzz!
Postavljati cesce slike na forumu prelijepog zelenila i brdovite BiH da ljudi uvide tj. da im udje u svijest u kakvoj prelijepoj zemlji zive i da je vazno da se spuste vise na zemlju (i mane se boga i nacije) i da je vrijeme da se bore za nasto sto ce valjda ostaviti i buducim generacijama.
A ima prelijepih slika, otvorite samo Fluov link na kulturi...a kad nas bude dovoljno dosta onda se mozda i organizujemo i nesto konkretno poduzmemo.
Do tad, voozzzzzzz!
#31
Posted: 01/05/2005 21:22
Priroda je najbolja stvar koju imamo.
Cuvajte je!
Mislim da se tu treba promijeniti svijest ljudi. Mislim da skola moze da odigra glavnu ulogu u tome. Neki novi narastaji mogu da promjene stvari na bolje. Za ove stare klipane je i tako i tako prekasno.
Cuvajte je!
Mislim da se tu treba promijeniti svijest ljudi. Mislim da skola moze da odigra glavnu ulogu u tome. Neki novi narastaji mogu da promjene stvari na bolje. Za ove stare klipane je i tako i tako prekasno.
#32
Posted: 01/05/2005 21:27
Jeste ali kako? Ti veliki klipani ne razmisljaju tako, ne investiraju u skole, u fakultete, u znanje, u omladinu tj. socialni kapital koji ce da dize svijest o prirodi, geografiji itd itd...oni trpaju u svoje dzepove ali se svakako zalazu za "bosnjacki", "srpski" i "hrvatski" narod!savjest wrote:Priroda je najbolja stvar koju imamo.
Cuvajte je!
Mislim da se tu treba promijeniti svijest ljudi. Mislim da skola moze da odigra glavnu ulogu u tome. Neki novi narastaji mogu da promjene stvari na bolje. Za ove stare klipane je i tako i tako prekasno.
#33
Posted: 01/05/2005 21:31
Ovdje sam prvenstveno mislio na senzibilizaciju djece o tom problemu. Mislim da se kante za razdvajanje smeca prvo trebaju postavljati u skolama. Voditi ih na akcije ciscenja nekih terena, pokazivati im sta prouzrokuje zagadivanje okoline i slicno.Soul_Sista wrote:Jeste ali kako? Ti veliki klipani ne razmisljaju tako, ne investiraju u skole, u fakultete, u znanje, u omladinu tj. socialni kapital koji ce da dize svijest o prirodi, geografiji itd itd...oni trpaju u svoje dzepove ali se svakako zalazu za "bosnjacki", "srpski" i "hrvatski" narod!savjest wrote:Priroda je najbolja stvar koju imamo.
Cuvajte je!
Mislim da se tu treba promijeniti svijest ljudi. Mislim da skola moze da odigra glavnu ulogu u tome. Neki novi narastaji mogu da promjene stvari na bolje. Za ove stare klipane je i tako i tako prekasno.
To najvise stoji do profesora i direktora skola.
#34
Posted: 02/05/2005 09:38
Seljačine će i to upropastiti doduše opet zavisi u kojem si gradu. Ako si u SA ili Tuzli možda je ipak moguće.Soul_Sista wrote:U mom naselju su napravili tako da su podijelili smece na vise kategorija (ako se to tako moze nazvati) ili kako ovde to zovu "sortiranje" smeca. Jedan kontener je posebno za novine i papire, drugi je baska za kartone i kutije, treci posebno samo za kese sa smecem a cetvrti je za hranu kao otpad. Isto tako imaju posebne kutije za istrosene baterije.
Ovo je jedan jako dobar nacin da se sprijeci sirenje smeca u prirodu (naravno i kemikalije) i da se drzi na jednom mjestu. Naravno isto tako odgovornost lezi na svakom gradzanu da se drzi tog sistema "sortiranja" i da treba vremena da se privikne na taj sistem ali da je jedan dobar nacin i korak naprijed ako covjek hoce nesto da poduzme sto se tice pitanja "smece", "priroda" i "ciste ulice"...
Sta mislite o ovome??
Evo kod nas u Mostaru samo na reklamnim panoima se vide ti silni natpisi o pokretanju akcije za čišćenje Mostara ali hajde ti ti to usadi ljudima u glavu.
#35
Posted: 02/05/2005 09:48
Recept za cistocu je vrlo jednostavan: Kazna.
Singapur je tako imao problem sa cistocom. Uveli su kazne i to za prvo bacanje smeca globa je $500, za drugo $1000 + kazneno ciscenje pride.
Singapur sada blista.
Singapur je tako imao problem sa cistocom. Uveli su kazne i to za prvo bacanje smeca globa je $500, za drugo $1000 + kazneno ciscenje pride.
Singapur sada blista.
#36
Posted: 02/05/2005 11:44
kod mene je to regulisano na visokom EU nivou......
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#37
Posted: 02/05/2005 12:06
Ljudi, svaka cast na inicijativi! Ja sam za, i to odmah! Ima li koji dobrovoljac da nas povede? Zoka, dokle je to doslo? Inace, nadam se da ove glasine o korumpiranom Greenpeace-u nisu tacne 
U svakom slucaju, mozda je bolja ideja da se prikljucimo nekoj od postojecih ekoloskih organizacija?
Ne znam, let me know what u think
Go Green
U svakom slucaju, mozda je bolja ideja da se prikljucimo nekoj od postojecih ekoloskih organizacija?
Ne znam, let me know what u think
Go Green
#38
Posted: 02/05/2005 12:11
Ako pogledas datume, vecina postova je godinu dana stara. Morace se sve iznova.Klio wrote:Ljudi, svaka cast na inicijativi! Ja sam za, i to odmah! Ima li koji dobrovoljac da nas povede? Zoka, dokle je to doslo? Inace, nadam se da ove glasine o korumpiranom Greenpeace-u nisu tacne
U svakom slucaju, mozda je bolja ideja da se prikljucimo nekoj od postojecih ekoloskih organizacija?
Ne znam, let me know what u think
Go Green
#39
Posted: 02/05/2005 17:41
Ha, ha, tek sam sad skontala. Zapravo mi jedan jaran posl'o, kaze, tema za tebe, i ja se odmah zaletila 
U svakom slucaju, inicijativa je bila dobra 
Sto ti kazes, hajmo ponovo
U svakom slucaju, inicijativa je bila dobra Sto ti kazes, hajmo ponovo
#40
Posted: 03/05/2005 11:55
Bob Hunter
Greenpeace founding member dead at 64
02 May 2005
Ontario, Canada — Perhaps more than anyone else, Bob Hunter invented Greenpeace. His death today, of cancer, marks the passing of a true original, one of the heroes of the environmental movement.
In 1971, the word "Greenpeace" hadn't yet been coined. Bob was a hippy journalist in Vancouver, a town which he described as having "the biggest concentration of tree-huggers, radicalized students, garbage-dump stoppers, shit-disturbing unionists, freeway fighters, pot smokers and growers, aging Trotskyites, condo killers, farmland savers, fish preservationists, animal rights activists, back-to-the-landers, vegetarians, nudists, Buddhists, and anti-spraying, anti-pollution marchers and picketers in the country, per capita, in the world."
Mind bombs
A student of Marshall McLuhan, he was bent on changing the world with what he termed "media mindbombs" -- consciousness-changing sounds and images to blast around the world in the guise of news. He got involved with a few folks in a church basement who wanted to stop a US nuclear weapons test off Amchitka, which he called the "Don't Make a Wave Committee".
Sailing into the bomb
But their plans were going nowhere until Marie Bohlen suggested that the group simply sail a ship into the test site. Bob thought it was a perfect "mindbomb," and on September 15, 1971, he and 11 other rag-tag activists would sail out to challenge the greatest military force on Earth in a rusting fishing boat they called "The Greenpeace." In doing so, they set off a wave of public support and protest which closed the US-Canadian border for the first time since 1812, ultimately shut the testing programme down, and created a new force for environmental and peace activism which continues to this day.
Greenpeace bears his mark
Over the next decade, Bob's madcap creativity, strategic smarts, and hard-nosed journalistic sense of story would indelibly mark the Greenpeace brand of action. From the pack ice of Newfoundland, where he dyed the whitecoats of Harp Seal pups to make them commercially worthless, to the Pacific Ocean where he stood between Russian harpoons and the whales they were hunting, he inspired a new brand of personal environmental activism.
Shaman, mystic
"Bob was a storyteller, a shaman, a word-magician, a Machiavellian mystic, and he dared to inject a sense of humour into the often shrill and sanctimonious job of changing the world," says Greenpeace Executive Director Gerd Leipold. "He was funny and brave and audacious, inspiring in his refusal to accept the limits of the practical or the probable. He revelled in life's ability to deliver little miracles in the form of impossibilities achieved, and Greenpeace will forever bear the mark of his crazy, super-optimistic faith in the wisdom of tilting at windmills."
Warriors of the Rainbow
In 1978, Hunter chronicled the birth of Greenpeace in his book "Warriors of the Rainbow." It was a masterful feat of storytelling, one which attracted a further generation of young people into the ranks of the organisation. In its introduction he wrote:
"We fought... an unequal battle against American and French nuclear weapons makers; Russian, Japanese, and Australian whalers; Norwegian and Canadian seal hunters; multinational oil consortiums and pesticide manufactures; cynical politicians; angry workers; and, again and again, ourselves. The people involved were men and women, young and old, not all of them brave or wise, who found themselves face-to-face with the fullest ecological horrors of the century..."
Storymaster
Among Hunter's stock stories was the tale of how he'd stumbled on to the Cree Indian myth of the "Warriors of the Rainbow" -- a legendary tribe of spirits who would rescue nature when the Earth became sick. The story involved a gypsy dulcimer maker, an old set of fenceposts, and the gift of a book which Hunter claimed leapt into his hands -- quite literally -- when The Greenpeace dropped down a steep swell on its way to Amchitka. The story itself was magical and mythological, and over the years Hunter would embellish and polish it into a hilarious and inspirational piece of campfire folklore.
Awful child
Hunter was born in Winnipeg, Manitoba in 1941. In his own words "I was an awful, rebellious, early attention-defficient kid who was loved by my art and English teachers, but hated by the rest. I cheated by scribbling novels when I was supposed to be doing schoolwork." He became a journalist for the Winnipeg Tribune and later wrote a column for the Vancouver Sun in which he featured environmental subjects. He quit writing the column when he joined the first Greenpeace voyage to save the whales, becoming a reporter explicitly to ensure his somewhat less than objective "message" would reach a global audience, because "the subjective stuff written by columnists [was] never picked up by the wire services."
Journalism as opinion
He readily confessed that this made him "a traitor to my profession," but believed he had a higher calling: "If we ignore [the] laws of ecology we will continue to be guilty of crimes against the earth. We will not be judged by men for these crimes, but with a justice meeted out by the earth itself. The destruction of the earth will lead, inevitably, to the destruction of ourselves."
Hunter became president of the Greenpeace Foundation in 1973, and served in that post until 1977.
He joined Toronto's City TV as an ecology specialist in 1988, and for years hosted a highly successful morning TV spot for Breakfast TV in his bathrobe, in which he read the day's newspaper headlines and sputtered scandalously witty commentaries in a form of rapid-fire stand-up journalism.
Advisor, speaker, comedian-in-chief
Over the years he continued to contribute to Greenpeace as an advisor and occasional speaker, and kept up good relations with the organisation's original luminaries, including many who were no longer on speaking terms with one other. He authored several books and founded a tongue-in-cheek religion, the Whole Earth Church.
In a recent book, Rex Weyler writes about reflecting with Hunter on their experiences in the early days of Greenpeace:
"The ironies and tension of history simultaneously provided the gift of history: that we got to live, to see the flourishing Earth, the flying fish, dolphins, caribou, seal pups, the raging sea, the blue light of morning, the miracle and terror of survival all rolled into one; and that we were blessed with an opportunity to serve it."
Bob Hunter made much of his opportunity to serve the Earth, and Greenpeace will always be blessed with his spirit.
......................................................................................
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/news/bob-hunter
Pokoj mu dusi.
Greenpeace founding member dead at 64
02 May 2005
Ontario, Canada — Perhaps more than anyone else, Bob Hunter invented Greenpeace. His death today, of cancer, marks the passing of a true original, one of the heroes of the environmental movement.
In 1971, the word "Greenpeace" hadn't yet been coined. Bob was a hippy journalist in Vancouver, a town which he described as having "the biggest concentration of tree-huggers, radicalized students, garbage-dump stoppers, shit-disturbing unionists, freeway fighters, pot smokers and growers, aging Trotskyites, condo killers, farmland savers, fish preservationists, animal rights activists, back-to-the-landers, vegetarians, nudists, Buddhists, and anti-spraying, anti-pollution marchers and picketers in the country, per capita, in the world."
Mind bombs
A student of Marshall McLuhan, he was bent on changing the world with what he termed "media mindbombs" -- consciousness-changing sounds and images to blast around the world in the guise of news. He got involved with a few folks in a church basement who wanted to stop a US nuclear weapons test off Amchitka, which he called the "Don't Make a Wave Committee".
Sailing into the bomb
But their plans were going nowhere until Marie Bohlen suggested that the group simply sail a ship into the test site. Bob thought it was a perfect "mindbomb," and on September 15, 1971, he and 11 other rag-tag activists would sail out to challenge the greatest military force on Earth in a rusting fishing boat they called "The Greenpeace." In doing so, they set off a wave of public support and protest which closed the US-Canadian border for the first time since 1812, ultimately shut the testing programme down, and created a new force for environmental and peace activism which continues to this day.
Greenpeace bears his mark
Over the next decade, Bob's madcap creativity, strategic smarts, and hard-nosed journalistic sense of story would indelibly mark the Greenpeace brand of action. From the pack ice of Newfoundland, where he dyed the whitecoats of Harp Seal pups to make them commercially worthless, to the Pacific Ocean where he stood between Russian harpoons and the whales they were hunting, he inspired a new brand of personal environmental activism.
Shaman, mystic
"Bob was a storyteller, a shaman, a word-magician, a Machiavellian mystic, and he dared to inject a sense of humour into the often shrill and sanctimonious job of changing the world," says Greenpeace Executive Director Gerd Leipold. "He was funny and brave and audacious, inspiring in his refusal to accept the limits of the practical or the probable. He revelled in life's ability to deliver little miracles in the form of impossibilities achieved, and Greenpeace will forever bear the mark of his crazy, super-optimistic faith in the wisdom of tilting at windmills."
Warriors of the Rainbow
In 1978, Hunter chronicled the birth of Greenpeace in his book "Warriors of the Rainbow." It was a masterful feat of storytelling, one which attracted a further generation of young people into the ranks of the organisation. In its introduction he wrote:
"We fought... an unequal battle against American and French nuclear weapons makers; Russian, Japanese, and Australian whalers; Norwegian and Canadian seal hunters; multinational oil consortiums and pesticide manufactures; cynical politicians; angry workers; and, again and again, ourselves. The people involved were men and women, young and old, not all of them brave or wise, who found themselves face-to-face with the fullest ecological horrors of the century..."
Storymaster
Among Hunter's stock stories was the tale of how he'd stumbled on to the Cree Indian myth of the "Warriors of the Rainbow" -- a legendary tribe of spirits who would rescue nature when the Earth became sick. The story involved a gypsy dulcimer maker, an old set of fenceposts, and the gift of a book which Hunter claimed leapt into his hands -- quite literally -- when The Greenpeace dropped down a steep swell on its way to Amchitka. The story itself was magical and mythological, and over the years Hunter would embellish and polish it into a hilarious and inspirational piece of campfire folklore.
Awful child
Hunter was born in Winnipeg, Manitoba in 1941. In his own words "I was an awful, rebellious, early attention-defficient kid who was loved by my art and English teachers, but hated by the rest. I cheated by scribbling novels when I was supposed to be doing schoolwork." He became a journalist for the Winnipeg Tribune and later wrote a column for the Vancouver Sun in which he featured environmental subjects. He quit writing the column when he joined the first Greenpeace voyage to save the whales, becoming a reporter explicitly to ensure his somewhat less than objective "message" would reach a global audience, because "the subjective stuff written by columnists [was] never picked up by the wire services."
Journalism as opinion
He readily confessed that this made him "a traitor to my profession," but believed he had a higher calling: "If we ignore [the] laws of ecology we will continue to be guilty of crimes against the earth. We will not be judged by men for these crimes, but with a justice meeted out by the earth itself. The destruction of the earth will lead, inevitably, to the destruction of ourselves."
Hunter became president of the Greenpeace Foundation in 1973, and served in that post until 1977.
He joined Toronto's City TV as an ecology specialist in 1988, and for years hosted a highly successful morning TV spot for Breakfast TV in his bathrobe, in which he read the day's newspaper headlines and sputtered scandalously witty commentaries in a form of rapid-fire stand-up journalism.
Advisor, speaker, comedian-in-chief
Over the years he continued to contribute to Greenpeace as an advisor and occasional speaker, and kept up good relations with the organisation's original luminaries, including many who were no longer on speaking terms with one other. He authored several books and founded a tongue-in-cheek religion, the Whole Earth Church.
In a recent book, Rex Weyler writes about reflecting with Hunter on their experiences in the early days of Greenpeace:
"The ironies and tension of history simultaneously provided the gift of history: that we got to live, to see the flourishing Earth, the flying fish, dolphins, caribou, seal pups, the raging sea, the blue light of morning, the miracle and terror of survival all rolled into one; and that we were blessed with an opportunity to serve it."
Bob Hunter made much of his opportunity to serve the Earth, and Greenpeace will always be blessed with his spirit.
......................................................................................
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/news/bob-hunter
Pokoj mu dusi.
#41
Posted: 03/05/2005 12:00
#42
Posted: 03/05/2005 20:22
Bullshit, sis.Soul_Sista wrote:Mislim da ima malo istine u ovome sto si rekla ali se uloge nekako uvijek okrenu pa samo cujes od starijih, vrlo cesto od penzionera, "danasnja generacija", "ta ohola djeca", "jebem im mater djeciju" itd.... ali ne zaboravite od koga djeca uce, uvijek od staraijih! Od tih isti koji samo pricaju i uvijek ama bas uvijek misle da su naj pametniji... :roll:
Niko te ne moze nauciti necemu sto ti neces da prihvatis. Ili, jos gore, mogu te uciti, ali valja to isto praktikovati. A to mnogi ne zele. Teretli je.