Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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#26 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Šunj wrote:
Tomahawk11 wrote:Kako, kad jedan od onih koji su kao za građansku BiH, za suživot, napravi ovakvo poređenje?

Kardinal Vinko Puljić u Žepču o pobjedi Komšića: “I Hitler je zakonito došao na vlast”

https://www.bhdijaspora.net/kardinal-vi ... -na-vlast/
Ovo je upuceno Hrvatima i Vinko Puljiću:
Mene zanima zasto vi Hrvati stalno forsirate pricu kako Komsic nece zastupati interese Hrvatskog naroda. Sta je vas interes? Pa Covic je imao 4 godine svoga mandata, i sta je napravio tokom svog mandata osim sto je raselio Hrvate iz Hercegovine, mito i korupcija je postala sastavni dio zivota Hrvata u Hercegovini, kriminal na sve strane, siromastvo, obrazovanje na dnu kao i obrazovanje u ostatku drzave BiH. Covic je covjek koji je sudjen u sudu zbog svoga kriminala, toliko je pokrao novca od vas Hrvata i vi ga i dalje dizete u nebesa. Kakav je to vas interes Hrvata? Je li vas interes formiranje treceg entiteta i konacno odcjepljenje od drzave BiH? Ako je to vas interes onda se postene varate, vasim snovima je dosao kraj! Ili cete gradjansku drzavu gdje svako ima pravo da bira i da bude biran ili mozete napustiti ovu drzavu i o svojim snovima mastati u svojoj matici Hrvatskoj. I tamo kad odete u Hrvatsku vi ste Bosanci, samo kad trebaju vas glas onda ste veliki Hrvati....
Trebas ti to prevesti na hrvatski :

Kada Bosnjaci u Varesu izaberu hrvata iz hdz-a to je pobjeda demokratije.

Kada Bosnjaci, hrvati, srbi, Romi, Jevreji izglasaju hrvata koji nije iz hdz-a. to je smrt demokratije.
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#27 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Kolinda wrote: U kako to glasno napisa protrnu od straha.
Nego da se vratim temi emisije, ti bi sastavio dom naroda, ajde stručnjak da čujem, kako?
Ako se nastavi neustavno djelovanje stranaka, koje su dale zakletvu na ustav (i jos uvjek su u vladi, parlamentu itd), prihvatili izborna pravila, izisli na izbore i sada to bojkotuju onda oni koji hoce da rade, imaju automatski saglasnost ovih sto ne dolaze.

Nikada se na ucjenjivace nije cekalo do beskonacnosti.
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#28 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Pošto su SDa i SDP prema izbornim rezultatzima dvije najjače stranke u FBiH, nek probaju skupiti većinu...ili zajedno ili neka svaka od njih zasebno djeluje u prikupljanju partnera. Ne znam o kakvim je blokadama riječ.
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#29 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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BAK-eV wrote:
Kolinda wrote: U kako to glasno napisa protrnu od straha.
Nego da se vratim temi emisije, ti bi sastavio dom naroda, ajde stručnjak da čujem, kako?
Ako se nastavi neustavno djelovanje stranaka, koje su dale zakletvu na ustav (i jos uvjek su u vladi, parlamentu itd), prihvatili izborna pravila, izisli na izbore i sada to bojkotuju onda oni koji hoce da rade, imaju automatski saglasnost ovih sto ne dolaze.

Nikada se na ucjenjivace nije cekalo do beskonacnosti.
Stručnjak, nisi dao rješenje, pitao sam kako sastaviti dom naroda???
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#30 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Kolinda wrote:
BAK-eV wrote:
Kolinda wrote: U kako to glasno napisa protrnu od straha.
Nego da se vratim temi emisije, ti bi sastavio dom naroda, ajde stručnjak da čujem, kako?
Ako se nastavi neustavno djelovanje stranaka, koje su dale zakletvu na ustav (i jos uvjek su u vladi, parlamentu itd), prihvatili izborna pravila, izisli na izbore i sada to bojkotuju onda oni koji hoce da rade, imaju automatski saglasnost ovih sto ne dolaze.

Nikada se na ucjenjivace nije cekalo do beskonacnosti.
Stručnjak, nisi dao rješenje, pitao sam kako sastaviti dom naroda???
Odlucice CIK po svoj prilici.

Ako ne, idemo u tehnicki mandat do odredjenog roka.
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#31 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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mO k3 wrote:Bilo bi ispravno imati jedan čovjek jedan glas , ali treba bi se ustav promjeniti gdje je konstutivnost zagarantirana i samim tim bi se urušio aparthejdski sistem koji imamo !
Samim tim bi nacionalne stranke bile suvišne ...

Ako se varam ispravite me
Istina, jer kada moze jedan Liban, moze i BiH.
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Politički događaji od 1943
Vidi takođe: Ljudska prava u Libanu
Od pojave države posle 1943. godine i nakon uništenja osmanskog kalifata, nacionalnu politiku je uglavnom utvrdila relativno ograničena grupa tradicionalnih regionalnih i sektaških lidera. Nacionalni pakt iz 1943. godine, nepisani sporazum koji je uspostavio političke temelje modernog Libana, dodelio je političku moć na suštinski konfesionalnom sistemu zasnovanom na popisu iz 1932. godine. Sedišta u parlamentu podeljena su na odnos od 6 do 5 hrišćana prema muslimanima, do 1990. godine, kada se odnos promenio na pola i pol. Položaji u vladinoj birokratiji dodeljeni su na sličnoj osnovi. Pakt je takođe po raspoređenim javnim službama duž vjerskih linija, sa tri glavna mjesta u vladajućoj "trojci" raspodijeljena na sljedeći način:

Predsednik, Maronite Hrišćanin.
Predsednik Skupštine, ši'anski musliman.
Premijer, musliman Sunita.
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#32 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Komšo je iznio jasan stav o potrebi uvođenje građanske države.
Za početak, uspio je uvjeriti glasače da mu daju povjerenje.
Pametna je to glava i mislim da je u potekle 4 godine razradio strategiju do najsitnijih detalja.
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#33 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Jedan covjek, jedan glas, sve se moze, ako se hoce:

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Lebanon is a semi-presidential parliamentary democratic republic within the overall framework of confessionalism, a form of consociationalism in which the highest offices are proportionately reserved for representatives from certain religious communities. The constitution grants the people the right to change their government. However, from the mid-1970s until the parliamentary elections in 1992, civil war precluded the exercise of political rights. According to the constitution, direct elections must be held for the parliament every 4 years but after the parliamentary election in 2009[1] another election was not held until 2018. The Parliament, in turn, elects a President every 6 years to a single term. The President is not eligible for re-election. The last presidential election was in 2016. The president and parliament choose the Prime Minister. Political parties may be formed; most are based on sectarian interests. 2008 saw a new twist to Lebanese politics when the Doha Agreement set a new trend where the opposition is allowed a veto power in the Lebanese Council of Ministers and confirmed religious Confessionalism in the distribution of political power. The Economist Intelligence Unit classified Lebanon as a "hybrid regime" in 2016.[2]


Contents
1 Political developments since 1943
2 Executive branch
2.1 The President
3 Legislative branch
4 Political parties and elections
5 Judicial branch
6 Administrative divisions
7 Lebanon in the news
8 International organization participation
9 See also
10 References
11 External links
Political developments since 1943
See also: Human rights in Lebanon
Since the emergence of the post-1943 state and after the destruction of the Ottoman Caliphate, national policy has been determined largely by a relatively restricted group of traditional regional and sectarian leaders. The 1943 National Pact, an unwritten agreement that established the political foundations of modern Lebanon, allocated political power on an essentially confessional system based on the 1932 census. Seats in parliament were divided on a 6-to-5 ratio of Christians to Muslims, until 1990 when the ratio changed to half and half. Positions in the government bureaucracy are allocated on a similar basis. The pact also by custom allocated public offices along religious lines, with the top three positions in the ruling "troika" distributed as follows:

The President, a Maronite Christian.
The Speaker of the Parliament, a Shi'a Muslim.
The Prime Minister, a Sunni Muslim.
Efforts to alter or abolish the confessional system of allocating power have been at the centre of Lebanese politics for decades. Those religious groups most favoured by the 1943 formula sought to preserve it, while those who saw themselves at a disadvantage sought either to revise it after updating key demographic data or to abolish it entirely. Nonetheless, many of the provisions of the national pact were codified in the 1989 Ta'if Agreement, perpetuating sectarianism as a key element of Lebanese political life.

Although moderated somewhat under Ta'if, the Constitution gives the President a strong and influential position. The President has the authority to promulgate laws passed by the Parliament, form the government to issue supplementary regulations to ensure the execution of laws, and to negotiate and ratify treaties.

The Parliament is elected by adult suffrage (majority age for election is 21)[3] based on a system of majority or "winner-take-all" for the various confessional groups. There has been a recent effort to switch to proportional representation which many argue will provide a more accurate assessment of the size of political groups and allow minorities to be heard. Most deputies do not represent political parties as they are known in the West, and rarely form Western-style groups in the assembly. Political blocs are usually based on confessional and local interests or on personal/family allegiance rather than on political affinities.

The parliament traditionally has played a significant role in financial affairs, since it has the responsibility for levying taxes and passing the budget. It also exercises political control over the cabinet through formal questioning of ministers on policy issues and by requesting a confidence debate.

Lebanon's judicial system is based on the Napoleonic Code. Juries are not used in trials. The Lebanese court system has three levels—courts of first instance, courts of appeal, and the court of cassation. There also is a system of religious courts having jurisdiction over personal status matters within their own communities, e.g., rules on such matters as marriage, divorce, and inheritance.

Lebanese political institutions often play a secondary role to highly confessionalized personality-based politics. Powerful families also still play an independent role in mobilizing votes for both local and parliamentary elections. Nonetheless, a lively panoply of domestic political parties, some even predating independence, exists. The largest are all confessional based. The Free Patriotic Movement, The Kataeb Party, also known as the Phalange Party, the National Bloc, National Liberal Party, Lebanese Forces and the Guardians of the Cedars (now outlawed) each have their own base among Christians. Amal and Hezbollah are the main rivals for the organized Shi'a vote, and the PSP (Progressive Socialist Party) is the leading Druze party. While Shi'a and Druze parties command fierce loyalty to their leaderships, there is more factional infighting among many of the Christian parties. Sunni parties have not been the standard vehicle for launching political candidates, and tend to focus across Lebanon's borders on issues that are important to the community at large. Lebanon's Sunni parties include Hizb ut-Tahrir, Future Movement, Independent Nasserist Organization (INO), the Al-Tawhid, and Ahbash. Besides the traditional confessional parties above, new secular parties have emerged amongst which Saba a and the Party of Lebanon [4] representing a new trend in Lebanese politics towards secularism and a truly democratic society. In addition to domestic parties, there are branches of pan-Arab secular parties (Ba'ath parties, socialist and communist parties) that were active in the 1960s and throughout the period of civil war.

There are differences both between and among Muslim and Christian parties regarding the role of religion in state affairs. There is a very high degree of political activism among religious leaders across the sectarian spectrum. The interplay for position and power among the religious, political, and party leaders and groups produces a political tapestry of extraordinary complexity.

In the past, the system worked to produce a viable democracy. Events over the last decade and long-term demographic trends, however, have upset the delicate Muslim-Christian-Druze balance and resulted in greater segregation across the social spectrum. Whether in political parties, places of residence, schools, media outlets, even workplaces, there is a lack of regular interaction across sectarian lines to facilitate the exchange of views and promote understanding. All factions have called for a reform of the political system.

Some Christians favor political and administrative decentralization of the government, with separate Muslim and Christian sectors operating within the framework of a confederation. Muslims, for the most part, prefer a unified, central government with an enhanced share of power commensurate with their larger share of the population. The reforms of the Ta'if agreement moved in this direction but have not been fully realized.

Palestinian refugees, predominantly Sunni Muslims, whose numbers are estimated at between 160,000-225,000, are not active on the domestic political scene.

On September 3, 2004, the Lebanese Parliament voted 96-29 to amend the constitution to extend President Émile Lahoud's six-year term (which was about to expire) by another three years. The move was supported by Syria, which maintained a large military presence in Lebanon.

Following the withdrawal of Syrian troops in April 2005, Lebanon held parliamentary elections in four rounds, from 29 May to 19 June. The elections, the first for 33 years without the presence of Syrian military forces, were won by the Quadripartite alliance, which was part the Rafik Hariri Martyr List, a coalition of several parties and organizations newly opposed to Syrian domination of Lebanese politics.

In January 2015, the Economist Intelligence Unit, released a report stating that Lebanon ranked the 2nd in Middle East and 98th out of 167 countries worldwide for Democracy Index 2014, the report, which ranks countries according to election processes, pluralism, government functions, political participation, political cultures and fundamental freedoms.

Executive branch
Main office holders
Office Name Party Since
President Michel Aoun Free Patriotic Movement 31 October 2016
Prime Minister Saad Hariri Future Movement 18 December 2016
The President is elected by the Parliament for a six-year term and cannot be reelected again until six years have passed from the end of the first term.[5] The Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister are appointed by the President in consultation with the Parliament; the president is required to be a Maronite, the prime minister a Sunni, and the Speaker of the Parliament a Shi'a. (See list of the ministers and their political affiliation for a list of ministers.)

This confessional system is based on 1932 census data which showed the Maronite Christians as having a substantial majority of the population. The Government of Lebanon continues to refuse to undertake a new census.

The President
Main article: President of Lebanon
Lebanon operates under a strong semi-presidential system. This system is unique in that it grants the president wide unilateral discretion, does not make him accountable to Parliament (unless for treason), yet is elected by the Parliament. The President has the sole power to appoint the Prime Minister, and may dismiss him whenever he wishes (without input from the Chamber of Deputies, which can also force him to resign). In addition, he has the sole authority to form a government (which must then receive a vote-of-confidence from Parliament) and dismiss it when he wishes. This thus makes Lebanon a president-parliamentary system rather than a premier-presidential system (such as France), as the President does not have to cohabitate with a Prime Minister he dislikes. The historical reason for the broad powers of the President are that his powers were merged with those of the French High Commissioner of Greater Lebanon, thus creating an exceptionally powerful presidency for semi-presidential systems.[6]

Following the end of the Lebanese Civil War, the President lost some powers to the Council of Ministers through the Taif Agreement; being the sole person who appoints it, however, he de facto still retains all (or most) of his pre-Taif powers.

Legislative branch

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Lebanese parliament building at Place d'Étoile in Beirut
Lebanon's national legislature is called the Assembly of Representatives (Majlis al-Nuwab in Arabic). Since the elections of 1992 (the first since the reforms of the Taif Agreement of 1989 removed the built-in majority previously enjoyed by Christians and distributed the seats equally between Christians and Muslims), the Parliament has had 128 seats. The term was four years, but has recently been extended to five.

Seats in the Parliament are confessionally distributed but elected by universal suffrage. Each religious community has an allotted number of seats in the Parliament. They do not represent only their co-religionists, however; all candidates in a particular constituency, regardless of religious affiliation, must receive a plurality of the total vote, which includes followers of all confessions. The system was designed to minimize inter-sectarian competition and maximize cross-confessional cooperation: candidates are opposed only by co-religionists, but must seek support from outside of their own faith in order to be elected.

The opposition Qornet Shehwan Gathering, a group opposed to the former pro-Syrian government, has claimed that constituency boundaries have been drawn so as to allow many Shi'a Muslims to be elected from Shi'a-majority constituencies (where the Hezbollah Party is strong), while allocating many Christian members to Muslim-majority constituencies, forcing Christian politicians to represent Muslim interests. (Similar charges, but in reverse, were made against the Chamoun administration in the 1950s).

The following table sets out the confessional allocation of seats in the Parliament before and after the Taif Agreement.

Parliament of Lebanon Seat Allocation
Confession Before Taif After Taif
Maronite Catholic 30 34
Eastern Orthodox 11 14
Melkite Catholic 6 8
Armenian Orthodox 4 5
Armenian Catholic 1 1
Protestant 1 1
Other Christian Minorities 1 1
Total Christians 54 64
Sunni 20 27
Shi'ite 19 27
Alawite 0 2
Druze 6 8
Total Muslims + Druze 45 64
Total 99 128
Political parties and elections
For other political parties, see List of political parties in Lebanon. An overview on elections and election results is included in Elections in Lebanon.
Lebanon has numerous political parties, but they play a much less significant role in Lebanese politics than they do in most parliamentary democracies. Many of the "parties" are simply lists of candidates endorsed by a prominent national or local figure. Loose coalitions, usually organized locally, are formed for electoral purposes by negotiation among clan leaders and candidates representing various religious communities; such coalitions usually exist only for the election, and rarely form a cohesive block in the Parliament after the election. No single party has ever won more than 12.5 percent of the seats in the Parliament, and no coalition of parties has won more than 35 percent.

Especially outside of the major cities, elections tend to focus more on local than national issues, and it is not unusual for a party to join an electoral ticket in one constituency while aligned with a rival party - even an ideologically opposite party - in another constituency.


e • d Parliament composition in june 2011 Lebanese Parliament election results
Alliances Seats Parties Seats
Government
68 27 Change and Reform bloc
Free Patriotic Movement (Tayyar Al-Watani Al-Horr) 20
Lebanese Democratic Party (Hizb al-democraty al-lubnany) 1
Marada Movement 3
Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Tashnag) 2
Solidarity Party (Hizb Al-Tadamon Al-Lubnany) 1
30 March 8 Alliance
Amal Movement (Harakat Amal) 13
Loyalty to the Resistance (Hezbollah) 13
Syrian Social Nationalist Party (al-Hizb al-Qawmi al-souri al ijtima'i) 2
Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party 2
11 Pro-Government Independents
Progressive Socialist Party 7
Glory Movement 2
Other 2
Opposition
60 60 March 14 Alliance
Future Movement (Tayyar Al Mustaqbal) 29
Lebanese Forces (al-Quwāt al-Lubnāniyya) 8
Kataeb Party (Hizb al-Kataeb) 5
Murr Bloc 2
Social Democrat Hunchakian Party (Social Democrat Hunchakian Party) 2
Islamic Group (Jamaa al-Islamiya) 1
Armenian Democratic Liberal Party (Ramgavar Party) 1
Democratic Left Movement (ĥarakatu-l-yasāri-d-dimuqrātī) 1
National Liberal Party (Hizbu-l-waTaniyyīni-l-aHrār) 1
Independents (including ex-PSP) 10
– – Total 128
Main article: Lebanese general election, 2018
Judicial branch
Lebanon is a civil law country. Its judicial branch is composed of:

Ordinary Courts:
One Court of Cassation composed of nine chambers [7]
Courts of Appeal (in the centre of every governorate) [7]
Courts of First Instance [7]
Special Courts:
The Constitutional Council (called for in the Ta'if Accord) rules on constitutionality of laws
The Supreme Council hears charges against the president and prime minister as needed.
A system of military courts that also has jurisdiction over civilians for the crimes of espionage, treason, and other crimes that are considered to be security-related.[8]
Administrative divisions
Lebanon is divided into eight governorates (muhafazat, singular - muhafazah): Akkar, Baalbek-Hermel, Beirut, Beqaa, Mount Lebanon, Nabatiye, North Lebanon, and South Lebanon.

Lebanon in the news
1999 Conflict: Farid Abboud discusses rebuilding after Israeli attacks.[9]
June 1999 Lebanon Will Fight Corruption by "Authority of Law"[10]
2002 Fighting along the disputed Lebanese/Israeli border [11]
2002 Lebanese Post-reconstruction Efforts[12]
2005 Assassination of former Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri [13]
International organization participation
ABEDA, ACCT, AFESD, AL, AMF, EBU, ESCWA, FAO, G24, G-77, IAEA, IBRD, ICAO, ICC[clarification needed], ICRM, IDA[clarification needed], IDB, IFAD, IFC[clarification needed], IFRCS, ILO, IMF, IMO[clarification needed], Inmarsat, ITUC, Intelsat, Interpol, IOC, ISO (correspondent), ITU, NAM, OAS[clarification needed] (observer), OIC, PCA[clarification needed], UN, UNCTAD, UNESCO, UNHCR, UNIDO, UNRWA, UPU, WCO, WFTU, WHO, WIPO, WMO, WTO.

See also
flag Lebanon portal
International relations portal
Constitution of Lebanon
Driving licence in Lebanon
Foreign relations of Lebanon
History of Lebanon
Lebanese diaspora
Lebanese identity card
Lebanese passport
Vehicle registration plates of Lebanon
Visa policy of Lebanon
Visa requirements for Lebanese citizens
References
Pro-Western coalition declares victory in Lebanon - The Globe and Mail
solutions, EIU digital. "Democracy Index 2016 - The Economist Intelligence Unit". http://www.eiu.com. Retrieved 2017-12-01.
Lebanese Constitution English Official Translation Archived 2009-09-06 at the Wayback Machine., Lebanese Presidency Website.
http://www.executive-magazine.com/cover ... ablishment
Issam Michael Saliba (October 2007). "Lebanon: Presidential Election and the Conflicting Constitutional Interpretations". US Library of Congress. Retrieved May 13, 2014.
https://lb.boell.org/en/2014/07/04/caug ... um-lebanon
http://www.justice.gov.lb/CP/viewpage.a ... language=2
https://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61693.htm
Farid Abboud at LAWAC Archived 2007-09-21 at the Wayback Machine.
Ambassador of Lebanon Dr. Farid Abboud at Al-Hewar Center
Interview With Lebanese Ambassador Farid Abboud & Wesley Clark
Ambassador Abboud discusses reconstruction success Archived 2007-09-22 at the Wayback Machine.
WAMU and Farid Abboud discuss Hariri's assassination
External links
Lebanon official government portal
Lebanon Government at Curlie (based on DMOZ)
The Lebanese Politics Podcast
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#34 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Ali kako se mudro provlači teza o važnosti demokratije i tom principu jedan čovjek - jedan glas. Njome se valjda želi legitimno biranje nelegitimnog predstavnika jedno naroda opravdati sekvencom međuljudskih odnosa po kojoj su protivnica takve vrste političke neracionalnosti protivnici napretka.
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#35 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Peda Petrol wrote:Ali kako se mudro provlači teza o važnosti demokratije i tom principu jedan čovjek - jedan glas. Njome se valjda želi legitimno biranje nelegitimnog predstavnika jedno naroda opravdati sekvencom međuljudskih odnosa po kojoj su protivnica takve vrste političke neracionalnosti protivnici napretka.
Trolcino, idi prosetaj.
U tvom genocidnom brlogu vazi pravilo jedan cetnik-jedan glas... nisam te cuo da se bunis.
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#36 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Posezanje za etiketiranjem sagovornika i uvredama na ličnom nivou odraz su vlastitih verbalnih nedostataka. Nikako forumaška neopreznost.

Neki bi po sistemu ko zna njemu dva.

Na tuđoj nesreći ne gradi se vlastita sreća. Izbori 2018.
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#37 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Kume, staviš to u filter, pa nek ono piše Nailovoj materi.
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#38 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Ovdje se radi o trivijalnoj stvari.
UZP-ovcima sam reci da upru prstom na drzavu na ovoj nasoj kugli koja ima politicki sistem kakav oni traze (malo kasne, u SA je ukinut poodavno pa se ne mogu ni na to pozvati).
Onda sve sto predloze traziti prvo da apliciraju u PC da malo vidimo kako to radi. Ako to ne ide, sistem iz PC prekopirati na FBiH pa na drzavni nivo.
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#39 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Evo kume. vidiš ovog gore @mirze.
Pojma nemam što je napisao, možda i nešto o meni...nebitno što god da je. I? Što sad? Jebe me se... što se mene tiče može postaviti izravan prijenos gdje vrši harakiri :)
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#40 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Šunj wrote:Al nek' sada i Sejdic i Finci i ostali budu birani u predsjednistvo ispred svojih naroda. Sto su to hrvati, srbi i bosnjaci bolji narod od nas?
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A zasto su krscani, suniti i siiti bolji od Druza i velikog broja drugih manjina u Libanonu? :D

Predsjednik mora biti krscanin, premijer mora biti sunit a predsjednik skupstine mora biti siit. Sam si uzeo Libanon za primjer. Predsjednik Libanona ne moze biti Rom, Zidov ni bilo ko drugi osim krscanin. :D
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#41 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Pa nije zar da i tamo suniti izaberu tog predsjednika, tj. kršćanina maronita.
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#42 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Hafis wrote:Pa nije zar da i tamo suniti izaberu tog predsjednika, tj. kršćanina maronita.
Citaj ako te zanima :D

http://www.prometej.ba/clanak/povijest/ ... obode-2430

Krscani su u savezu sa siitima kontra sunita. Nesto kao vi i Dodo protiv Bosnjaka (suniti, takodje). :D

Krscani i siiti imaju trenutno natpolovicnu vecinu u parlamentu gdje su zajedno kontra sunita. Ipak, uprkos tome, premijer mora biti legitimni sunit - Sad Hariri. :D

Sjebana drzava kao BiH. Napravili ustav stranci kao nama u BiH.

A 'vako ti trebas slike Dode kao krscani slike lidera Hezbolaha - Hasana Naserlaha :D

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I pjesme mu krscani pjevaju :D

https://youtube.com/watch?v=pdZgkGI5h0A

Sve u svemu, Libanon ne treba uzimati kao pozitivan primjer. Niposto. Sjebana zemlja, gori su od nas. Ratovali bezbroj puta, svi sa svima (jedni protiv drugih i medjusobno). Imaju krhki mir i pitanje je kada ce opet zaratiti.
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#43 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Fina ta plava mohuna uh.
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#44 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Point. wrote:Fina ta plava mohuna uh.
Kazu da su Libanke daleko najljepse zene u tom dijelu svijeta. Mediteran, klima...
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#45 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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cyprus wrote:Jedan čovjek jedan glas je princip koji se može uspostaviti u harmonično uređenim društvima... Onim koji su polarizovani na etničkoj osnovi - teško...

Zato, da bi došli do tog principa, treba prvo raditi na harmonizaciji odnosa, gradnji mostova između ljudi i ublažavanju tenzija... Dakle, to je apsolutno jedini način, kojem ne postoji alternativa... O tome blejim već više od jedne decenije po forumu, ali nekako počesto ispadam salonac zbog toga...
Ljudi ne vide da samo tolerancijom, slobodom, povjerenjem i građenjem mostova možeš rušiti nacionaliste i diktatore.
Ja nikad ne bi dao glas Komšiću jer je to bio glas za HDZ i za Čovića.
Ovim glasanjem je nanesena šteta i svim onim dobrim ljudima Hrvatima Hercegovine koji BiH osjećaju svojom domovinom i koji žele da gradimo normalnu zemlju u kojoj će političari dobiti marginalan značaj kao u svim normalnim zemljama.
Države su nastajale i nestajale i neka priča o hiljadugodišnjoj istoriji BiH ne pije vode kao što ne pije vode priča da je Kosovo vjekovima srpsko.
Zato razgovor, dogovor, tolerancija, jer ko želio rat bio mu u kući,..
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#46 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Peda Petrol wrote:Ali kako se mudro provlači teza o važnosti demokratije i tom principu jedan čovjek - jedan glas. Njome se valjda želi legitimno biranje nelegitimnog predstavnika jedno naroda opravdati sekvencom međuljudskih odnosa po kojoj su protivnica takve vrste političke neracionalnosti protivnici napretka.
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Ako si Binas, no sumnjam - prije ce biti s ercegbosna.org :D
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#47 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Peda Petrol wrote:Ali kako se mudro provlači teza o važnosti demokratije i tom principu jedan čovjek - jedan glas. Njome se valjda želi legitimno biranje nelegitimnog predstavnika jedno naroda opravdati sekvencom međuljudskih odnosa po kojoj su protivnica takve vrste političke neracionalnosti protivnici napretka.
Vidim novi si, tek si krenuo a da ni osnove naucio nisi - Ustav BiH clan V - Predsjednistvo. Vise nego ocito je to majstore, ma koliko se ti trudio verbalnim egzibicijama prikriti elemntarno neznanje.
Dakle, clanovi predsjednistva nisu predstavnici naroda jer ih ne biraju narodi nego glasaci (tako pise u Ustavu, provjeri, clan V nije prevelik ni tako kompliciran. I Kolinda ga je do sada skontala).
Zeljko Komsic je i legalan i legitiman clan Predsjednistva jer je izabran i po izbornom zakonu i po Ustavu, odakle i izvire njegov legitimitet. Jednom izabran, svaki clan predsjednistva predstavlja sve gradjane, bez obzira na to jesu li glasali za njega ili ne.
Kome se ne svidja, imaju apelacija sudovima (domacim i medjunarodnim). Obzirom da je Komsic vec u dva navrata bio clan Predsjenistva a nisu pokrenute nikakve apelacije, pametnom je dosta zakljuciti da tu nista sporno nema, prema vazecem Ustavu. Zna se doduse kako se Ustav mijenja, mozemo krenuti u razgovor o tome ali onda dajmo i drugima da otvore dusu, da kazu sto ih tisti.
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#48 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Peda Petrol wrote:

Na tuđoj nesreći ne gradi se vlastita sreća. Izbori 2018.
ili republika srpska 1992.

na temu, sunj, zaboravi na to. i po cijenu natoa, eu i sta si jos nabrojo. njima nije ni u cilju ulazak u nato i eu, cilj je agonija, neizvjesnost koja ce jednog dana za 10-20-50 godina dovesti do i formalnog raspada drzave.
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#49 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Kikibombona wrote:
Point. wrote:Fina ta plava mohuna uh.
Kazu da su Libanke daleko najljepse zene u tom dijelu svijeta. Mediteran, klima...
da. dobre su. nisu dlakave ko ostale u tom dijelu svijeta, doduse vidjo sam i par dlakavih po rukama iz libana, ali ne kao iz drugih djelova bliskog istoka. a svakakvih ih ima i crnih i plavih i svega.
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#50 Re: Novi Izborni zakon = Jedan covjek, jedan glas

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Ja kontao ovaj Liban koliko - toliko normalan, a oni u problemima većim od nas?
Multikulturalnost očigledno ne ide nigdje kako treba. Prevelike su razlike. :run:
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