nismo mi dinosauripitt wrote:Vrijeme je za kakvu kometu da nas spici:D
mi smo rasa zilava al sto znamo sami sebe zajebat
i dinosauri su bili pametniji od nas.
Papa izabran
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St.Germain
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#26
mi smo rasa zilava al sto znamo sami sebe zajebat
i dinosauri su bili pametniji od nas.
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Katarina Velika
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#28
ŽIVIO ŽIVIO ŽIVIO
papa Benedikt XVI Kardinal Joseph Ratzinger
papa Benedikt XVI Kardinal Joseph Ratzinger
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St.Germain
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#29
cool nickŠandor wrote: Promijenio bih nick u Jednomudi.
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St.Germain
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#31
ljudska glupost je neogranicena i nazalost neunistiva...dok god se protiv te bolesti ne nadje lijek, covjecanstvo ce se nalaziti na rubu propasti. no to nije tema ove emisije, pa...al u neku ruku i jeste
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pitt
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#32
Profil novog pape :
Profile of Cardinal Ratzinger
Associated Press
April 19, 2005 1:33 p.m.
TRAUNSTEIN, Germany -- Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger alienated some Roman Catholics in Germany with his zeal enforcing church orthodoxy. But in the conservative Alpine foothills of Bavaria where he grew up, he remains a favorite son who many think will make a good pope.
Cardinal Ratzinger, a rigorously conservative guardian of doctrinal orthodoxy who turned 78 on Saturday and was chosen the Catholic Church's 265th pontiff Tuesday, went into the Vatican conclave a leading candidate to succeed Pope John Paul II.
"Only someone who knows tradition is able to shape the future," said the Rev. Thomas Frauenlob, who heads the seminary in Traunstein where Cardinal Ratzinger studied and regularly returns to visit.
But opinion about him remains deeply divided in Germany, a sharp contrast to John Paul, who was revered in his native Poland. A recent poll for Der Spiegel news weekly said Germans opposed to Cardinal Ratzinger becoming pope outnumbered supporters 36% to 29%, with 17% having no preference. The poll of 1,000 people, taken April 5-7, gave no margin of error.
Many blame Cardinal Ratzinger for decrees from Rome barring Catholic priests from counseling pregnant teens on their options and blocking German Catholics from sharing communion with their Lutheran brethren at a joint gathering in 2003.
Cardinal Ratzinger has clashed with prominent theologians at home, most notably the liberal Hans Kueng, who helped him get a teaching post at the University of Tuebingen in the 1960s. The cardinal later publicly criticized Mr. Kueng, whose license to teach theology was revoked by the Vatican in 1979.
He has also sparred openly in articles with fellow German Cardinal Walter Kasper, a moderate who has urged less centralized church governance and is considered a dark horse papal candidate.
"He has hurt many people and far overstepped his boundaries in Germany," said Christian Wiesner, spokesman for the pro-reform Wir Sind Kirche, or We Are Church movement.
Cardinal Ratzinger himself, in his autobiography, sensed he was out of step with his fellow Germans as early as the 1960s, when he was a young assistant at the Second Vatican Council in Rome.
Returning to Germany between sessions, "I found the mood in the church and among theologians to be agitated," he wrote. "More and more there was the impression that nothing stood fast in the church, that everything was up for revision."
TRANSITION AT THE VATICAN
• Top Papal Candidates Vary in Form, Focus
04/15/05
• Complete coverage: Vatican in Transition
Cardinal Ratzinger left Tuebingen during student protests in the late 1960s and moved to the more conservative University of Regensburg in his home state of Bavaria. Catholics and Protestants each account for about 34% of the German population, but Bavaria is one of the more heavily Catholic areas.
"What Wadowice was for John Paul, Bavaria is for Ratzinger," said Rev. Frauenlob, referring to John Paul II's hometown in southern Poland. "He has very deep roots here, it's his home."
The cardinal was born in Marktl Am Inn, but his father, a policeman, moved frequently and the family left when he was 2. He and his older brother, Georg -- former director of the renowned Regensburger Domspatzen boys choir -- return annually to the peaceful halls of St. Michael's Seminary to stay in the elegant but sparsely furnished bishop's apartment next to the church.
An accomplished pianist who loves Mozart, Cardinal Ratzinger enjoys playing the grand piano in the seminary's main hall, and walking through downtown Traunstein greeting people, Rev. Frauenlob said.
Traunstein was also where Cardinal Ratzinger went through the harrowing years of Nazi rule and World War II. In his memoirs, Cardinal Ratzinger wrote that he was enrolled in the Nazi youth movement against his will when he was 14 in 1941, when membership was compulsory. He said he was soon let out because of his studies for the priesthood.
Deserted the Army
Two years later he was drafted into a Nazi antiaircraft unit as a helper, a common task for teenage boys too young to be soldiers. A year later he was released, only to be sent to the Austrian-Hungarian border to construct tank barriers.
He deserted the Germany army in May 1945 and returned to Traunstein -- a risky move, since deserters were shot on the spot if caught, or publicly hanged as examples to others. When he arrived home, U.S. soldiers took him prisoner and held him in a prisoner-of-war camp for several weeks. Upon his release, he re-entered the seminary.
Cardinal Ratzinger was ordained, along with his brother, in 1951. He then spent several years teaching theology. In 1977, he was appointed bishop of Munich and elevated to cardinal three months later by Pope Paul VI.
Pope John Paul II named him leader of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in 1981, where he was responsible for enforcing Catholic orthodoxy and was one of the key men in the drive to shore up the faith of the world's Roman Catholics.
Cardinal Ratzinger speaks several languages, among them Italian and English, as well as his native language German.
Rev. Frauenlob calls him a subtle thinker with a deep understanding of Catholic tradition and a personal touch he's not often given credit for. He cites the example of the seminary's 2003 confirmation service where no bishop was available. Cardinal Ratzinger swiftly agreed to come, confirming the 14 boys, then taking time to speak personally to each one after the ceremony.
"I find it hurtful to see him described as a hard-liner," Rev. Frauenlob said. "People are too quick to say that. It's not an accurate reflection of his personality."
Profile of Cardinal Ratzinger
Associated Press
April 19, 2005 1:33 p.m.
TRAUNSTEIN, Germany -- Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger alienated some Roman Catholics in Germany with his zeal enforcing church orthodoxy. But in the conservative Alpine foothills of Bavaria where he grew up, he remains a favorite son who many think will make a good pope.
Cardinal Ratzinger, a rigorously conservative guardian of doctrinal orthodoxy who turned 78 on Saturday and was chosen the Catholic Church's 265th pontiff Tuesday, went into the Vatican conclave a leading candidate to succeed Pope John Paul II.
"Only someone who knows tradition is able to shape the future," said the Rev. Thomas Frauenlob, who heads the seminary in Traunstein where Cardinal Ratzinger studied and regularly returns to visit.
But opinion about him remains deeply divided in Germany, a sharp contrast to John Paul, who was revered in his native Poland. A recent poll for Der Spiegel news weekly said Germans opposed to Cardinal Ratzinger becoming pope outnumbered supporters 36% to 29%, with 17% having no preference. The poll of 1,000 people, taken April 5-7, gave no margin of error.
Many blame Cardinal Ratzinger for decrees from Rome barring Catholic priests from counseling pregnant teens on their options and blocking German Catholics from sharing communion with their Lutheran brethren at a joint gathering in 2003.
Cardinal Ratzinger has clashed with prominent theologians at home, most notably the liberal Hans Kueng, who helped him get a teaching post at the University of Tuebingen in the 1960s. The cardinal later publicly criticized Mr. Kueng, whose license to teach theology was revoked by the Vatican in 1979.
He has also sparred openly in articles with fellow German Cardinal Walter Kasper, a moderate who has urged less centralized church governance and is considered a dark horse papal candidate.
"He has hurt many people and far overstepped his boundaries in Germany," said Christian Wiesner, spokesman for the pro-reform Wir Sind Kirche, or We Are Church movement.
Cardinal Ratzinger himself, in his autobiography, sensed he was out of step with his fellow Germans as early as the 1960s, when he was a young assistant at the Second Vatican Council in Rome.
Returning to Germany between sessions, "I found the mood in the church and among theologians to be agitated," he wrote. "More and more there was the impression that nothing stood fast in the church, that everything was up for revision."
TRANSITION AT THE VATICAN
• Top Papal Candidates Vary in Form, Focus
04/15/05
• Complete coverage: Vatican in Transition
Cardinal Ratzinger left Tuebingen during student protests in the late 1960s and moved to the more conservative University of Regensburg in his home state of Bavaria. Catholics and Protestants each account for about 34% of the German population, but Bavaria is one of the more heavily Catholic areas.
"What Wadowice was for John Paul, Bavaria is for Ratzinger," said Rev. Frauenlob, referring to John Paul II's hometown in southern Poland. "He has very deep roots here, it's his home."
The cardinal was born in Marktl Am Inn, but his father, a policeman, moved frequently and the family left when he was 2. He and his older brother, Georg -- former director of the renowned Regensburger Domspatzen boys choir -- return annually to the peaceful halls of St. Michael's Seminary to stay in the elegant but sparsely furnished bishop's apartment next to the church.
An accomplished pianist who loves Mozart, Cardinal Ratzinger enjoys playing the grand piano in the seminary's main hall, and walking through downtown Traunstein greeting people, Rev. Frauenlob said.
Traunstein was also where Cardinal Ratzinger went through the harrowing years of Nazi rule and World War II. In his memoirs, Cardinal Ratzinger wrote that he was enrolled in the Nazi youth movement against his will when he was 14 in 1941, when membership was compulsory. He said he was soon let out because of his studies for the priesthood.
Deserted the Army
Two years later he was drafted into a Nazi antiaircraft unit as a helper, a common task for teenage boys too young to be soldiers. A year later he was released, only to be sent to the Austrian-Hungarian border to construct tank barriers.
He deserted the Germany army in May 1945 and returned to Traunstein -- a risky move, since deserters were shot on the spot if caught, or publicly hanged as examples to others. When he arrived home, U.S. soldiers took him prisoner and held him in a prisoner-of-war camp for several weeks. Upon his release, he re-entered the seminary.
Cardinal Ratzinger was ordained, along with his brother, in 1951. He then spent several years teaching theology. In 1977, he was appointed bishop of Munich and elevated to cardinal three months later by Pope Paul VI.
Pope John Paul II named him leader of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in 1981, where he was responsible for enforcing Catholic orthodoxy and was one of the key men in the drive to shore up the faith of the world's Roman Catholics.
Cardinal Ratzinger speaks several languages, among them Italian and English, as well as his native language German.
Rev. Frauenlob calls him a subtle thinker with a deep understanding of Catholic tradition and a personal touch he's not often given credit for. He cites the example of the seminary's 2003 confirmation service where no bishop was available. Cardinal Ratzinger swiftly agreed to come, confirming the 14 boys, then taking time to speak personally to each one after the ceremony.
"I find it hurtful to see him described as a hard-liner," Rev. Frauenlob said. "People are too quick to say that. It's not an accurate reflection of his personality."
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Kompljikator
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#36
this papa rocks 
zajedno sa bushem razvalice svijet.
jos kao mali za ucitelja je imao cika hitlera i sad ce svoje steceno znanje da primjenjuje
zajedno sa bushem razvalice svijet.jos kao mali za ucitelja je imao cika hitlera i sad ce svoje steceno znanje da primjenjuje
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Kompljikator
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#38
samo nije on nikakav ucenik ako ne stigne ucitelja 
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-=DoMaGoJ=-
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#42
Znate li da je njegova obitelj bila izrazito anti nacistička?
U 3. Reichu je pripadnost Hitlerjugendu bila obvezna. Što je on znao sa 12 godina kad je počeo 2. svj. rat.
Kako bi nacist mogao biti jedan od najboljih prijatelja Ivana Pavla 2?
Čovjek je konzervativan i tradicionalan, ali, ako mu je to jedini grijeh ona je kriv.
U 3. Reichu je pripadnost Hitlerjugendu bila obvezna. Što je on znao sa 12 godina kad je počeo 2. svj. rat.
Kako bi nacist mogao biti jedan od najboljih prijatelja Ivana Pavla 2?
Čovjek je konzervativan i tradicionalan, ali, ako mu je to jedini grijeh ona je kriv.
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Nina-x
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#43
Evo na vijestima dosta negativnog govore o ovom novom papi ...uglavnom da je jako konzervativan sto se tice moralnih pitanja. Sto se mene tice, nek bude ko hoce, puno me ni ne interesujeSt.Germain wrote:ne, samo ne taj fasista
juce procitah njegovo bjesnilo pretoceno u slova i pazi, individualnost je najvece zlo covjecanstva
ajme ucenjaka i govana....
ni crkva a vala ni dzamija, samo nek se ne uplicu previse u politicka pitanja posebno vezano za pitanja abortusa i ko ce se sa kim u brak, to je stvar izbora svake samostalne individue, muskarca a i zene. Finito!
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Zox
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#44
Pa da, to je isto kao da ove nase silne "demokrate" i "nacionalno osvijestene" optuzis zato sto su bili u titovim pionirima...-=DoMaGoJ=- wrote:Znate li da je njegova obitelj bila izrazito anti nacistička?
U 3. Reichu je pripadnost Hitlerjugendu bila obvezna. Što je on znao sa 12 godina kad je počeo 2. svj. rat.
Kako bi nacist mogao biti jedan od najboljih prijatelja Ivana Pavla 2?
Čovjek je konzervativan i tradicionalan, ali, ako mu je to jedini grijeh ona je kriv.
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BECHO
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#45
Ode crkva u desno! Ovi moji Svicarci se nimalo ne raduju izboru pape Reitzigera, s obzirom da ovdasnji katolici vec godinama propagiraju otvaranje crkve, liberalizaciju, rijesenja pitanja nekih crkvenih dogmi, eventualnog ukidanja celibata, prava na abortus i sl.! Naravno svi oni zive u zabludi, jer im je novi Papson dobro otvorio oci sa svojim konzervativnim stavovima jos iz vremena prije pontifikata! 
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pape
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#48
Dopadalo se nama to ili ne, bio nam on simpatican ili antipatican, .... kardinal Reitziger je novi Papa.Kakav ce biti, vrijeme ce pokazati.
Nego, .... sta cemo sa ona nasa tri Papka?