Preseljenje u EU

[friskyoreo]

Kad ona nadje posao i pocne raditi tamo i prijavi boravak, ti ces imati pravo i boraviti i raditi, dobit ces odmah vizu na 5 godina. To je zakon EU, i ne primjenjuju se Danski zakoni. Tako je u Njemackoj, tako je i u Austriji. Npr. kad se u Njemackoj vjencas za nijemca, dobijes prvo vizu na 1 godinu, pa sljedecu na 2 godine. A ako si za drugog EU drzavljanina koji zivi u Njemackoj, odmah dobijes boravisnu i radnu na 5 godina.


"Right to move and right of residence for up to three months

All Union citizens have the right to enter another Member State by virtue of having an identity card or valid passport. Under no circumstances can an entry or exit visa be required. Where the citizens concerned do not have travel documents, the host Member State must afford them every reasonable means in obtaining the requisite documents or having them sent.

Family members who do not have the nationality of a Member State enjoy the same rights as the citizen who they have accompanied. They may be subject to a short-stay visa requirement under Regulation (EC) No 539/2001. Residence permits will be deemed equivalent to short-stay visas.

For stays of less than three months, the only requirement on Union citizens is that they possess a valid identity document or passport. The host Member State may require the persons concerned to register their presence in the country within a reasonable and non-discriminatory period of time."


"Common provisions on the right of residence and right of permanent residence

Union citizens qualifying for the right of residence or the right of permanent residence and the members of their family also benefit from equal treatment with host-country nationals in the areas covered by the Treaty. However, the host Member State is not obliged to grant entitlement to social security during the first three months of residence to persons other than employed or self-employed workers and the members of their family. Equally, host Member States are not required, prior to the acquisition of the permanent right of residence, to grant maintenance aid for studies, including for vocational training, in the form of grants or loans to these same persons. Family members, irrespective of their nationality, will be entitled to engage in economic activity on an employed or self-employed basis."

http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/ ... 152_en.htm

[swanfilter]

A, ciji drz. si ti? Jer vidim da si se vjencao u UK. Ako si preko supruge postao njihov drz., za tebe bi mogla vrijediti neka druga pravila ...

[Zviz]

@Fiskyorero

On ce imati pravo boravka na osnovu zenine radne i boravise dozvole. U slucaju da nekim cudom mu odobre da on moze imati licnu boravisnu odnosno privremenu dozvolu on mora ovo moci ispuniti za trajnu!

"Requirements

You must still qualify for temporary residence

You must be over the age of 18

You must have resided in Denmark legally for at least five years. Read more

You must not have a criminal record. If you have been sentenced to more than 18 months in prison you are disqualified from receiving permanent residence. If you have been sentenced to less than 18 months in prison (whether suspended or served) you are temporarily disqualified from receiving permanent residence. Read more

You must not have any overdue public debts. Read more

You must not have received certain types of public benefits for a period of three years prior to submitting your application for permanent residence, or while your application is being processed. Read more

You must have submitted a signed declaration of integration and active citizenship in Denmark. Read more

You must have passed the Danish language test 1 or a Danish language test of an equivalent or higher level. Read more

You must have held a regular full-time employment and/or been enrolled in an educational programme in Denmark for at least three of the five years prior to submitting your application for a permanent residence permit. Read more

You must continue to be working or studying at the time when the Danish Immigration Service decides the case"

Na osnovu zenine samo njemu vazi boravisna, ne i radna. Tako da je ovisan 100% od zeninih prihoda, koji naravno moraju biti dovoljni za zivota dvoje, i to pravilo uopste nije upisano o zakonu vec se gleda primanje i troskovi ( moguci) odnosno bar oblikatorni. Tu EU nema sta reci. Ako je na osnovu zenine boravisne dozvole kao spajanje on nikada nemoze ispuniti uslove za vlastitu boravisnu dozvolu, zato da bi imao pravo doci preko zenine i biti na njezinoj oni mojaru uvijek ziviti na istoj adresi.

[niceman]

zviz drug hvala ti puno na informacijama stvarno su opsirne i daju nadu...hvala na trudu i vremenu, ja sam otisao prvi put u Uk preko turisticke vize .dali mi na pola godine i imao pravo se legalno vjencati gore..sada ne znam moze li sa turistickom...tada je moglo i sve super proslo....ali uvode stalno nova pravila i ne mozemo ih vise pratit, tako da smo odlucili ici negdje drugo pa kasnije mozda come back to Uk....

[niceman]

A, ciji drz. si ti? Jer vidim da si se vjencao u UK. Ako si preko supruge postao njihov drz., za tebe bi mogla vrijediti neka druga pravila ...

imam samo nas BiH pasos,isao na turisticku vizu tada

[friskyoreo]

@Fiskyorero

On ce imati pravo boravka na osnovu zenine radne i boravise dozvole. U slucaju da nekim cudom mu odobre da on moze imati licnu boravisnu odnosno privremenu dozvolu on mora ovo moci ispuniti za trajnu!

"Requirements

You must still qualify for temporary residence

You must be over the age of 18

You must have resided in Denmark legally for at least five years. Read more

You must not have a criminal record. If you have been sentenced to more than 18 months in prison you are disqualified from receiving permanent residence. If you have been sentenced to less than 18 months in prison (whether suspended or served) you are temporarily disqualified from receiving permanent residence. Read more

You must not have any overdue public debts. Read more

You must not have received certain types of public benefits for a period of three years prior to submitting your application for permanent residence, or while your application is being processed. Read more

You must have submitted a signed declaration of integration and active citizenship in Denmark. Read more

You must have passed the Danish language test 1 or a Danish language test of an equivalent or higher level. Read more

You must have held a regular full-time employment and/or been enrolled in an educational programme in Denmark for at least three of the five years prior to submitting your application for a permanent residence permit. Read more

You must continue to be working or studying at the time when the Danish Immigration Service decides the case"

Na osnovu zenine samo njemu vazi boravisna, ne i radna. Tako da je ovisan 100% od zeninih prihoda, koji naravno moraju biti dovoljni za zivota dvoje, i to pravilo uopste nije upisano o zakonu vec se gleda primanje i troskovi ( moguci) odnosno bar oblikatorni. Tu EU nema sta reci. Ako je na osnovu zenine boravisne dozvole kao spajanje on nikada nemoze ispuniti uslove za vlastitu boravisnu dozvolu, zato da bi imao pravo doci preko zenine i biti na njezinoj oni mojaru uvijek ziviti na istoj adresi.

Pa citas li ti covjece uopste sta pise tamo? Ako ne razumijes engleski, uzmi danski ili hrvatski na sluzbenim stranicama EU pa procitaj! Postavio sam link, boldirao i ti opet tu svoju pricu- nidje veze!
I kao sto napisah, u ovom slucaju, primjenjuju se EU zakoni, ne zakoni Danske o boravku gradjana trecih zemalja koji su supruznik EU gradjanina. Cak i kad bi bio slucaj sa Danskim drzavljaninom, on moze da bira da li ce se odlucivati po zakonu Danske ili po EU zakonu.

I evo ti ovo sto uporno govorim da odmah dobijes boravisnu na 5 godina.

"Family members of Union citizens who are not nationals of a Member State must apply for a residence permit for family members of Union citizens. These permits are valid for five years from their date of issue."

[niceman]

znam drug skontao sam nego probao dati odg kolegi sto je isto pitao neka pitanja pa se izmixalo..hvala ti puno na zalaganju drug si pravi...zahvaljujem jos jednom na odgovorima..zivio mi sto godina

[Zviz]

Pa citas li ti covjece uopste sta pise tamo? Ako ne razumijes engleski, uzmi danski ili hrvatski na sluzbenim stranicama EU pa procitaj! Postavio sam link, boldirao i ti opet tu svoju pricu- nidje veze!
I kao sto napisah, u ovom slucaju, primjenjuju se EU zakoni, ne zakoni Danske o boravku gradjana trecih zemalja koji su supruznik EU gradjanina. Cak i kad bi bio slucaj sa Danskim drzavljaninom, on moze da bira da li ce se odlucivati po zakonu Danske ili po EU zakonu.

I evo ti ovo sto uporno govorim da odmah dobijes boravisnu na 5 godina.

"Family members of Union citizens who are not nationals of a Member State must apply for a residence permit for family members of Union citizens. These permits are valid for five years from their date of issue."

Molim te nemoj me uciti. Znam dobo o cemu sam pisao i to je Danski zakon koji vazi u Danskoj, nema tu EU, gore, dole, ljevo, desno. Covjek je BiH drzavljanin a supruga Britanka. Ja sam pisao sta njemu sve treba kad bi nekim cudom mu dali na njegovo ime privremeni boravak. On iskljucivo ce dobiti boravak tj. dozvolu na osnovu zenine, koja je u DK na osnovu posla. I ako je Danska dio EU, i EU gradjani imaju ograniceno kretanje, tj. danska je zauzela jedno pravo tj. ona je dijelimicno dio EU, jer zadrzava si uvijek prava da postupa po svome. Da bi nebitio bio EU ili ne drzavljan tj. drzave koaj je clanica ili ne. U Danskoj smijes samo biti sa razlogom. Razlog moze biti posao, skolovanje, ili da trazis posao, a poslje tri mjeseca moras imati boravak, ali taj boravak mozes samo postici ako imas dovoljno para na racunu, ako vec nemas posao u Danskoj. Pusti EU ono ovo. U Danskoj pale neki EU prohtjevi ko u Zimbabveju. To sto sam naisao je tako.

Danska ima takozvane opt-outs. Na sljedece:

Rights and free movement within the European Union

Common Security and Defence Policy

Economic and Monetary Union

I uskoro ce istupiti iz Schengena. Bar ako desnicari pobjede na izborima.

[arslanbey]

u braku smo 3 godine...znaci ja bih od nje zavisio..vjencani smo u londonu...ali viza nam se zakomplikovala pa bih negdje..medjutim samo me ovaj boravak zeza posto imam samo nas Bh pasos...

Ti ces da zivis na njen racun kao parasit ?

[friskyoreo]

Pa citas li ti covjece uopste sta pise tamo? Ako ne razumijes engleski, uzmi danski ili hrvatski na sluzbenim stranicama EU pa procitaj! Postavio sam link, boldirao i ti opet tu svoju pricu- nidje veze!
I kao sto napisah, u ovom slucaju, primjenjuju se EU zakoni, ne zakoni Danske o boravku gradjana trecih zemalja koji su supruznik EU gradjanina. Cak i kad bi bio slucaj sa Danskim drzavljaninom, on moze da bira da li ce se odlucivati po zakonu Danske ili po EU zakonu.

I evo ti ovo sto uporno govorim da odmah dobijes boravisnu na 5 godina.

"Family members of Union citizens who are not nationals of a Member State must apply for a residence permit for family members of Union citizens. These permits are valid for five years from their date of issue."

Molim te nemoj me uciti. Znam dobo o cemu sam pisao i to je Danski zakon koji vazi u Danskoj, nema tu EU, gore, dole, ljevo, desno. Covjek je BiH drzavljanin a supruga Britanka. Ja sam pisao sta njemu sve treba kad bi nekim cudom mu dali na njegovo ime privremeni boravak. On iskljucivo ce dobiti boravak tj. dozvolu na osnovu zenine, koja je u DK na osnovu posla. I ako je Danska dio EU, i EU gradjani imaju ograniceno kretanje, tj. danska je zauzela jedno pravo tj. ona je dijelimicno dio EU, jer zadrzava si uvijek prava da postupa po svome. Da bi nebitio bio EU ili ne drzavljan tj. drzave koaj je clanica ili ne. U Danskoj smijes samo biti sa razlogom. Razlog moze biti posao, skolovanje, ili da trazis posao, a poslje tri mjeseca moras imati boravak, ali taj boravak mozes samo postici ako imas dovoljno para na racunu, ako vec nemas posao u Danskoj. Pusti EU ono ovo. U Danskoj pale neki EU prohtjevi ko u Zimbabveju. To sto sam naisao je tako.

Danska ima takozvane opt-outs. Na sljedece:

Rights and free movement within the European Union

Common Security and Defence Policy

Economic and Monetary Union

I uskoro ce istupiti iz Schengena. Bar ako desnicari pobjede na izborima.

Koji si ti bolid jbte! Dajem ti relevantne linkove sa sluzbenih stranica i citiram paragrafe koji pobijaju te tvoje nebuloze i on opet.
Elem, free movement je jedno od osnovnih prava u EU koje oni brane. Skoro je Svicarska (iako nije eu, posebnim sporazumima ima prava kao i eu drzave) htjela da se iskljuci iz toga zbog velikog naseljavanja. No u Eu su rekli, ako ponistite free movement rights, rusite i sve ostale sporazume koje imate sa eu (tako su sporazumi i definisani) Jer free movement je jedno od osnovnih nacela u EU. I onda se Svicarci usutili.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenshi ... sh_opt-out

"Danish opt-out[edit]
Further information: Opt-outs in the European Union
Denmark obtained four opt-outs from the Maastricht Treaty following the treaty's initial rejection in a 1992 referendum. The opt-outs are outlined in the Edinburgh Agreement and concern the EMU (as above), the Common Security and Defence Policy (CSDP), Justice and Home Affairs (JHA) and the citizenship of the European Union. The citizenship opt-out stated that European citizenship did not replace national citizenship; this opt-out was rendered meaningless when the Amsterdam Treaty adopted the same wording for all members. The policy of recent Danish governments has been to hold referendum to abolish these opt outs, including formally abolishing the citizenship opt out which is still technically active even if redundant."

Ja s tobom necu vise da raspravljam, nisi uopste zanimljiv diskutant, samo lupas nebuloze bez pokrica.
Na postavljacu teme i ostalim koji ce citati a u slicnoj su situaciji, je da sami skontaju sta je za njih bolje. Ja im preporucujem da se informisu na sluzbenim izvorima. Toliko.

[Zviz]

Ti zavro ko lud. A taj isti ko bude popunjavo papire ce mozda kod mene doci u kancelariju. Slusaj decko. Imas stranicu ministarstava u DK pa citaj. Ja samo pisem ono sto je praksa.

Bosanski drzavlajn moze u dansku doci na 5 nacina.

1; brakom
2; poslom (direktno)
3; zelena karta (bodovanje)
4; skolovanje
5; preko muza/zene koji imaju posao na izdrzavanje njih bez prava na neki status

I postoji 6 nacin na 3 mjeseca tj. Preko strane firme sa sredjenim boravkom u drzavi gdje je i firma.

Za nekoga sa drzavljanstvom drzave clanice eu vaze sljedeca pravila

1 posao
2 skolovanje
3 potraga za poslom
4 na racun muza zene koji imaju posao
.....

Do tri mjeseca 90 dana moze bez registracoje poslje mora jedna od tacki da se ispuni, ima jos tacki ali su nebitne i rijetkosti, za tacku tri moras imati na racunu preko 11.500kr cca. Mjesecno da moze ostati. I moras redovno traziti posao, jer ces postati obavezan do dokumentacije, ako zakljuce da ne trazis posao i ako si na vlastitom trosku ili da za tebe nema posla, moras napustiti drzavu dobrovoljno ili deportacijom.

[Zviz]

Odgovor na pitanje koliko treba da zaradi, za dvoje gdje jedno radi je palac pravilo 18.500 do 24.000 kr, ovisi o izdatcima za najam stana i sl. Cifra je mjesecna i na ruke tj. Netto.

[Zviz]

Pravila u Danskoj za EU i No, FL, IS i CH

What rules apply?

Union citizens and EEA nationals may stay in Denmark under the EU rules on free movement of persons and services.

If a foreigner is both a Union citizen/an EEA national and a national of a Nordic country, the rules concerning Nordic nationals normally apply. It is possible to apply under the rules applicable to Union citizens/EEA nationals if these rules are more favourable for the applicant or if the applicant insists on applying specific rules. Please contact your local Regional State Administration for guidance.

Residence in Denmark – how long?

Union citizens/EEA nationals may stay freely in Denmark for up to three months. If Union citizens/EEA nationals are seeking employment during their stay, they may stay in Denmark for up to six months or even a longer period as long as it can be documented that the Union citizen/the EEA national is still seeking employment and has a genuine opportunity of employment.

A registration certificate (for Union citizens/EEA nationals) or a residence card (for third-country nationals) is required for a stay in Denmark for more than three months. However, Union citizens/EEA nationals who are seeking employment are not to apply for a registration certificate. As opposed to a residence permit issued under the provisions of the Danish Aliens Act, a registration certificate or residence card is merely a proof of the rights already conferred on a Union citizen/an EEA national under the EU rules on free movement.

If an entry prohibition for Denmark has been issued against a Union citizen/an EEA national, s/he must have a visa to enter Denmark. A foreigner may have been issued with an entry prohibition if s/he has been expelled from Denmark once, for example on the basis of unlawful residence or crime.

If you have a right of residence in Denmark under the EU rules and need to move abroad

If you reside abroad for a long period, your right of residence in Denmark under the EU rules may lapse. However, you can apply to the Regional State Administration for an exemption to avoid that your right of residence in Denmark under the EU rules will lapse. You must apply before you move abroad.

Union citizens/EEA nationals must prove their nationality

A Union citizen/an EEA national must be able to identify him/herself and prove his/her nationality if the Danish police so request at a check of that person. Union citizens/EEA nationals who want to travel to Denmark must therefore bring their passport or ID card.

Residence exceeding three months

If a Union citizen/an EEA national wishes to stay in Denmark for more than three months and s/he is not a national of a Nordic country as well, s/he must apply to the Regional State Administration for a registration certificate under the EU rules. The application must be submitted within three months after the entry into Denmark. Job seekers are not to submit an application for as long as they are seeking employment.

When are registration certificates issued?

A Union citizen/an EEA national is eligible for a registration certificate, if s/he:

is in paid employment (imas direktno posao)
is self-employed (otvoris firmu)
provides services in Denmark (nudis servise npr. stolar)
is a retired worker, retired self-employed person or retired service provider
has been seconded (penzioneri)
is a student at an educational institution accredited or financed by public authorities, and s/he is able to support him/herself during the period of residence in Denmark or
disposes of such sufficient income or means so that s/he is presumed not to become a burden on the public authorities (student ili na racun nekoga ko te moze izdrzavati ili sam sebe da izdrzavas)

[Zviz]

Ako trazis posao u DK te istovremeno sam sebe sponzoriras, od tebe se trazi sljedece. Da si uclanjen u nekom sindikatu, da se prijavis na jobcenter u opcini gdje imas adresu.

Obaveznosti.
Sindikat obavlja razgovor sa tobom svaki drugi ili treci mjesec kako koji sindikat, moras sedmicno najmanje dva zahtjeva za posao da digitalno dokazes od prilozis dokumentaciju.

Jobcenter, jednom u po godine a mozda i cetri mjeseca moze te pozvati na razgovor, obicno telefonom. U nekim slucajima i jobcenter trazi dokumentaciju o trazenju posla, u nekim samo jedan od dva tj jobcenter ili sindikat, u nekim iskljucivo jobcenter. Posto sindikat ne isplacuje a-kasse novac nije duzan evidentirati dokaze o aktivnostima za posao pa obicno to trazi jobcenter koji je dio opcine.


Sindikat kosta cca. 100€ mjesecno.

[niceman]

Drug zviz daj ti meni broj u inbox cini mi se da si advokat ili grijesim, istina je da je meni potrebno biti na prostoru eu sa suprugom najmanje 3 mjeseca i imamo pravo uci u britaniju bez vize, kasno saznajem ali sta cu, znaci englez priznaje ako ste bili zajdno na istoj adresi ali van UK i imamo pravo uci, najvise me je brinulo tih 90 dana jer nije tri mjeseca, jes u narodu ali nije na papiru, znaci 4 mjeseca i dosta, ali supruga mora pokazati da je radila nije bitan iznos zarade, jeste ali nije za Uk bitno

[niceman]

u braku smo 3 godine...znaci ja bih od nje zavisio..vjencani smo u londonu...ali viza nam se zakomplikovala pa bih negdje..medjutim samo me ovaj boravak zeza posto imam samo nas Bh pasos...

Ti ces da zivis na njen racun kao parasit ?

Pa ne bih kao parazit bas, imamo ustedjevine, samo bih nam nejn posao bio pokrice jer mi bi se vratili u UK onda kao eu...

[friskyoreo]

Pravila u Danskoj za EU i No, FL, IS i CH

What rules apply?

Union citizens and EEA nationals may stay in Denmark under the EU rules on free movement of persons and services.

If a foreigner is both a Union citizen/an EEA national and a national of a Nordic country, the rules concerning Nordic nationals normally apply. It is possible to apply under the rules applicable to Union citizens/EEA nationals if these rules are more favourable for the applicant or if the applicant insists on applying specific rules. Please contact your local Regional State Administration for guidance.

Residence in Denmark – how long?

Union citizens/EEA nationals may stay freely in Denmark for up to three months. If Union citizens/EEA nationals are seeking employment during their stay, they may stay in Denmark for up to six months or even a longer period as long as it can be documented that the Union citizen/the EEA national is still seeking employment and has a genuine opportunity of employment.

A registration certificate (for Union citizens/EEA nationals) or a residence card (for third-country nationals) is required for a stay in Denmark for more than three months. However, Union citizens/EEA nationals who are seeking employment are not to apply for a registration certificate. As opposed to a residence permit issued under the provisions of the Danish Aliens Act, a registration certificate or residence card is merely a proof of the rights already conferred on a Union citizen/an EEA national under the EU rules on free movement.

If an entry prohibition for Denmark has been issued against a Union citizen/an EEA national, s/he must have a visa to enter Denmark. A foreigner may have been issued with an entry prohibition if s/he has been expelled from Denmark once, for example on the basis of unlawful residence or crime.

If you have a right of residence in Denmark under the EU rules and need to move abroad

If you reside abroad for a long period, your right of residence in Denmark under the EU rules may lapse. However, you can apply to the Regional State Administration for an exemption to avoid that your right of residence in Denmark under the EU rules will lapse. You must apply before you move abroad.

Union citizens/EEA nationals must prove their nationality

A Union citizen/an EEA national must be able to identify him/herself and prove his/her nationality if the Danish police so request at a check of that person. Union citizens/EEA nationals who want to travel to Denmark must therefore bring their passport or ID card.

Residence exceeding three months

If a Union citizen/an EEA national wishes to stay in Denmark for more than three months and s/he is not a national of a Nordic country as well, s/he must apply to the Regional State Administration for a registration certificate under the EU rules. The application must be submitted within three months after the entry into Denmark. Job seekers are not to submit an application for as long as they are seeking employment.

When are registration certificates issued?

A Union citizen/an EEA national is eligible for a registration certificate, if s/he:

is in paid employment (imas direktno posao)
is self-employed (otvoris firmu)
provides services in Denmark (nudis servise npr. stolar)
is a retired worker, retired self-employed person or retired service provider
has been seconded (penzioneri)
is a student at an educational institution accredited or financed by public authorities, and s/he is able to support him/herself during the period of residence in Denmark or
disposes of such sufficient income or means so that s/he is presumed not to become a burden on the public authorities (student ili na racun nekoga ko te moze izdrzavati ili sam sebe da izdrzavas)

Znam da sam rekao da necu vise, ali ne mogu odolit. Kontradiktoran si sam sebi, govoris da se u Dk primjenjuju pravila iz Dk, a upravo si postavio da se primjenjuju zakoni EU o slobodnom kretanju. Sve to navedeno se primjenjuje i u ostalim clanicama EU, isto tako.
Cisto sumnjam da ti radis kao sluzbenik na nekom mjestu u uredu za imigracije. Ako i radis (u sto cisto sumnjam, moram opet ponoviti), treba te prijaviti nadleznim sluzbama, Europskom sudu pravde i da se poniste i ponovo preispitaju svi slucajevi na kojima si ikada radio.

[arslanbey]

u braku smo 3 godine...znaci ja bih od nje zavisio..vjencani smo u londonu...ali viza nam se zakomplikovala pa bih negdje..medjutim samo me ovaj boravak zeza posto imam samo nas Bh pasos...

Ti ces da zivis na njen racun kao parasit ?

Pa ne bih kao parazit bas, imamo ustedjevine, samo bih nam nejn posao bio pokrice jer mi bi se vratili u UK onda kao eu...

A salim se malo sretno

[Zviz]

Znam da sam rekao da necu vise, ali ne mogu odolit. Kontradiktoran si sam sebi, govoris da se u Dk primjenjuju pravila iz Dk, a upravo si postavio da se primjenjuju zakoni EU o slobodnom kretanju. Sve to navedeno se primjenjuje i u ostalim clanicama EU, isto tako.
Cisto sumnjam da ti radis kao sluzbenik na nekom mjestu u uredu za imigracije. Ako i radis (u sto cisto sumnjam, moram opet ponoviti), treba te prijaviti nadleznim sluzbama, Europskom sudu pravde i da se poniste i ponovo preispitaju svi slucajevi na kojima si ikada radio.

Hbla te EU i njena pravila, da se spustim na tvoj nivo vec jednom. U Danskoj vaze DANSKA pravila koja se ne kose sa EU pravilim, ali imaju svoje dodatne strane. Recimo svota novca koju moras imati na racunu, bodovanje i sl. To nije direktiva iz EU vec danska. Cak i o dokazivanju da trazis posao, o pravilu zenidbe 18-24 mjeseca, o zabrani boravisne dozvole ako si bio kaznjavan itd. To su danska pravila, a ne EU.

Ja radim na uredu za migracuju i prijavi me ako zelis, bujrum, neces nista promjeniti. Potpisao sam brdo zabrana, deportovo brdo stranca koji su dosli ovdje da prose po cesti i sl. I zaboli me neka stvar. Da budem prosti. Ja radim svoje po nalogu drzave, a to sto ti zivis u duhu nakve EU, nek ti je sa srecom, eu pravila se postuju ali zadnju rijec imaju Danska pravila koja su visa od tih tj. nacin intepretacije tih pravila smo sebi zadrzali i na svaku rupiciu smo ubalici svoje klauzule i tako treba biti. Ako nisi znao u Danskoj je zabranjeno kaciti zastave Europske Unije, tj. samo ambasade stranih drzava mogu. Toliko o EU.

I da budem jos jednom tacan, ja zivim u DK i bavim se tim i poznam pravila a ne ti. I covjeku sam objasnio fino, da uopste nema poteskoca ako ide na racun zenine boravisne dozvole, jedina problem je da nema pravo na nikakv status.


Løkke: Vi er nødt til at forskelsbehandle udlændinge

Danmark er nødt til at forskelsbehandle indvandrere for at få "de rigtige" i stedet for "de forkerte", fastslår Venstres formand.

Izjava opozicije, i njenog glavnog vodje. Kaze: danska mora tretirati doseljenike razlicito kako bi drzava zadrzala dobila dobre a ne lose imigrante. Ovo je politika. Ima razlike izmedju ljudi, ima razlike izmedju Albanije i Novog Zelanda, i nije svak dobro dosao u moju kucu politika. Koliko prara toliko muzike. Cist racun duga ljubav. Zlatna pravila.

Drzave koje ce imati specijalne povlastice oko preseljena u Dansku ako Liberli pobjede na izborima: Andorra, Argentina, Australija, Barbados, Brunei Darussalam, Canada, Chile, Israel, Japan, New Zealand, Schweiz, Seychellerne, Singapore, Juzna Korea u USA.

I ukidanje green-card te bodovanja pravila.

Referendum o Schengenu! Tom se najvise radujem! Hocemo granicu i kontrolu, da se zna ko ulazi u drzavu. Svidajlo se to tebi ili ne. A ako Bog da i uskuro referendum o EU. Mi smo previse bogati za tu siromasnu EU. Hbo uniju u kojoj jade kao Poljska, Litva, Hrvatska, Slovenija, Slovacka, Rumunija i ne nazadnje Grcka kroje kapu.

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Ako sam dobro razumio, Zviz radi za i zivi na grbaCHi Danske drzave.
Prima platu i ostale usluge od drzave. Ne proizvodi nista. Ne pravi dodatnu vrijednost.
Budzetski parazit kao kod nas.

U cemu se stvarno razlikuje njegov posao i onoga sto je dosao u Dansku da prosi ?

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Ako sam dobro razumio, Zviz radi za i zivi na grbadzi Danske drzave.
Prima platu i ostale usluge od drzave. Ne proizvodi nista. Ne pravi dodatnu vrijednost.
Budzetski parazit kao kod nas.

U cemu se stvarno razlikuje njegov posao i onoga sto je dosao u Dansku da prosi ?

Ja stvaram mir i red i odrzajem pravila, jer bi zavladala anarhija a drzavu pi perplavili koje kakve ublehe iz ZNJ drzava koje su unutar neke unije, koja je simbol propasti a ne prosperiteta. Kakva je to unije, gdje prosperitet se samo trazi u 5 drzava, a u ostalima ni trava ne raste vise.

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ako neko zna pravilo koliko godisnje treba supruga da zaradjuje da bih se mogli "spojiti" nece biti i to na odmet

Mjesecno oko 18-24.000dkr netto. Ili bolje receno, posto nema pisanog pravila, je palac pravilo, troskovi za stan i sve te dazbine nebi trebale da prelaze 1/3 netto plate. Primjer ako je stan sa troskovima 6.000kr znaci plata oko 18,001kr.

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Ja stvaram mir i red i odrzajem pravila, jer bi zavladala anarhija a drzavu pi perplavili koje kakve ublehe iz ZNJ drzava koje su unutar neke unije, koja je simbol propasti a ne prosperiteta. .

Hoces reci iste one ublehe sa kojima si ti dosao u Dansku prije 20 godina ?
Ti si kao Zidov koji radi za Gestapo. Tako te ja vidim

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Ja stvaram mir i red i odrzajem pravila, jer bi zavladala anarhija a drzavu pi perplavili koje kakve ublehe iz ZNJ drzava koje su unutar neke unije, koja je simbol propasti a ne prosperiteta. .

Hoces reci iste one ublehe sa kojima si ti dosao u Dansku prije 20 godina ?
Ti si kao Zidov koji radi za Gestapo. Tako te ja vidim

Ja sam doso pri tih, koje si sam opsiao tj BiH izbjeglice ublehama, tako da je to tvoj opis njih.
Moze se reci da sam kao Zidov koji radi za Gestapa, ali za razliku od Gestapa mi ne ubijamo, vec gradimo drzavu na temelju sposobnih ljudi, a nesposobnima odnosno za koej mislim da ce samo biti steta, diplomatskim nacinom sprecjavam.

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Hmm,, meni puno zvuci kao gestapo.
Gradite drzavu sa sposobnim ljudima a nesposobne odstranjujete. Znaci samo super gen ima pristup ?
Ako to nije rasizam ne znam sta je , ali dobro, citava Zap Evropa je takva. Nije samo Danska.