dobro ti bolje od mene znas kako sam ja studirao ovu tematiku kad je bilo aktuelnoeasy wrote: Ma on je sve procitao sto je mogao, samo da ne bi djecu vakcinisao. To je kod ovakvih likova uvijek primarni cilj, a ne ultimativna potraga za istinom.
VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
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#2476 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
- Alhemicarkaa
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#2477 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
Tom logikom ruski rulet je i preci ulicu i hodati po trotuaru. Auto te moze udariti. Mene udarilo auto na trotuaru. Ne hodajte trotuarom, udarice vas auto!
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#2478 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
Ljudi, ako niste znali s kim raspravljate, preletite brzo teme na religiji. Raspravljate sa Smrckom, poznatim kasapinom prirodnih nauka, covjekom koji ce izvuci informacije i iz najzabacenijih supaka interneta ukoliko potvrdjuju njegova predubjedjenja, a u rijetkim slucajevima gdje izvuce tacne informacije, protumacit ce ih na njemu svojstven nacin, sa sposobnoscu rezonovanja koja je rangirana negdje izmedju petogodisnjeg djeteta i zidne lampe.
Manite se corava posla.
Manite se corava posla.
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#2479 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
Thiomersal (tiomersal ili timerosal)
Following a mandated review of mercury-containing food and drugs in 1999, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) asked vaccine makers to remove thiomersal from vaccines as quickly as possible as a precautionary measure, and it was rapidly phased out of most US ...
Kažu da su ga skoro skroz izbacili iz upotrebe u USA i u većini EU zemalja.
Kažu, eto čisto da se ne bi dizala "hampa" oko upotrebe tiomersala u vakcinama, da se smanji strah, itd...
AHA

Following a mandated review of mercury-containing food and drugs in 1999, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) asked vaccine makers to remove thiomersal from vaccines as quickly as possible as a precautionary measure, and it was rapidly phased out of most US ...
Kažu da su ga skoro skroz izbacili iz upotrebe u USA i u većini EU zemalja.
Kažu, eto čisto da se ne bi dizala "hampa" oko upotrebe tiomersala u vakcinama, da se smanji strah, itd...
AHA
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#2480 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
Kašljuca mi i nos mu curi tako da ipak nesmijemo, al hvala na savjetu, vidis to mi nije naumpalo.Mogy87 wrote:Izvadite nalaze privatno. Ako su mu crp i leukociti unutar normalnih granica vakcinisite dijete.corei3 wrote:Ovaj moj stariji dobio MRP, a mlađeg nikako da vakcinisemo, cijelu zimu neko u kući gripozan il on il mi i nesmijem ga odvest. Jeb ga.
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#2481 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
evo reci na ovo , sta reci

Now—we have remarkable new information: a respected pro-vaccine medical expert used by the federal government to debunk the vaccine-autism link, says vaccines can cause autism after all. He claims he told that to government officials long ago, but they kept it secret.
http://fullmeasure.news/news/cover-stor ... ion-debate
In 2007, Yates’ case and nearly all the other vaccine autism claims lost. The decision was based largely on the expert opinion of this man, Dr. Andrew Zimmerman, a world-renowned pediatric neurologist shown here at a lecture.
Dr. Zimmerman was the government’s top expert witness and had testified that vaccines didn’t cause autism. The debate was declared over.
But now Dr. Zimmerman has provided remarkable new information. He claims that during the vaccine hearings all those years ago, he privately told government lawyers that vaccines can, and did cause autism in some children. That turnabout from the government’s own chief medical expert stood to change everything about the vaccine-autism debate. If the public were to find out.
Hazlehurst: And he has come forward and explained how he told the United States government vaccines can cause autism in a certain subset of children and United States government, the Department of Justice suppressed his true opinions.

Now—we have remarkable new information: a respected pro-vaccine medical expert used by the federal government to debunk the vaccine-autism link, says vaccines can cause autism after all. He claims he told that to government officials long ago, but they kept it secret.
http://fullmeasure.news/news/cover-stor ... ion-debate
In 2007, Yates’ case and nearly all the other vaccine autism claims lost. The decision was based largely on the expert opinion of this man, Dr. Andrew Zimmerman, a world-renowned pediatric neurologist shown here at a lecture.
Dr. Zimmerman was the government’s top expert witness and had testified that vaccines didn’t cause autism. The debate was declared over.
But now Dr. Zimmerman has provided remarkable new information. He claims that during the vaccine hearings all those years ago, he privately told government lawyers that vaccines can, and did cause autism in some children. That turnabout from the government’s own chief medical expert stood to change everything about the vaccine-autism debate. If the public were to find out.
Hazlehurst: And he has come forward and explained how he told the United States government vaccines can cause autism in a certain subset of children and United States government, the Department of Justice suppressed his true opinions.
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#2482 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
samo da se referiram na posljednje - glupost koju samo antivaxeri tvrde a prije par dana je izašla studija na 650k djece i dokazala po 100ti put da je ovo antivaxerska glupost... a ni ostalo nije teško oborivo pa malo "iščitavaj" kako sam kažeš da voliš da radišSmrcak15 wrote:
https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com ... healthier/
Are Unvaccinated Children Truly Healthier Than Vaccinated?
Ok, let’s get down to brass tacks. Are unvaccinated children really healthier?
Here are the stats:
Less than 10% of unvaccinated children suffer from allergies of any kind. This compares with 40% of children in the USA ages 3-17 reporting an allergy to at least one allergen and 22.9% with an allergic disease.
.2% of unvaccinated children suffer from asthma. This compares with 14-15% of vaccinated children with asthma in Australia, 4.7% in Germany, and 6% in the USA.
1.5% of unvaccinated children suffer from hayfever. This compares with 10.7% in Germany.
2% of unvaccinated children had neurodermatitis. This auto-immune disorder affects over 13% of children in Germany.
ADHD was present in only 1-2% of the unvaccinated children. This compares with nearly 8% of children in Germany with ADHD and another 5.9% borderline cases.
Middle ear infections are very rare in unvaccinated children (less than .5%). In Germany, 11% of children suffer from this problem.
Less than 1% of unvaccinated children had experienced sinusitis. This compares with over 32% of children in Germany.
Only 4 unvaccinated children out of the 7,600+ total surveys reported severe autism. In all 4 cases, however, the mother tested very high for mercury. In the USA, approximately 1 in 100 children suffer this neurological illness and 1 in every 38 boys in the UK.
i po milioniti put - autizam nije bolest!!!
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#2483 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
Kazem ja ljudi, ovi Masoni hoce da nas je sve manje i manje.
Zapadnjacka zavjera!!
Zapadnjacka zavjera!!
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#2484 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
a sta je ovoVladaFBiH wrote:samo da se referiram na posljednje - glupost koju samo antivaxeri tvrde a prije par dana je izašla studija na 650k djece i dokazala po 100ti put da je ovo antivaxerska glupost... a ni ostalo nije teško oborivo pa malo "iščitavaj" kako sam kažeš da voliš da radišSmrcak15 wrote:
https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com ... healthier/
Are Unvaccinated Children Truly Healthier Than Vaccinated?
Ok, let’s get down to brass tacks. Are unvaccinated children really healthier?
Here are the stats:
Less than 10% of unvaccinated children suffer from allergies of any kind. This compares with 40% of children in the USA ages 3-17 reporting an allergy to at least one allergen and 22.9% with an allergic disease.
.2% of unvaccinated children suffer from asthma. This compares with 14-15% of vaccinated children with asthma in Australia, 4.7% in Germany, and 6% in the USA.
1.5% of unvaccinated children suffer from hayfever. This compares with 10.7% in Germany.
2% of unvaccinated children had neurodermatitis. This auto-immune disorder affects over 13% of children in Germany.
ADHD was present in only 1-2% of the unvaccinated children. This compares with nearly 8% of children in Germany with ADHD and another 5.9% borderline cases.
Middle ear infections are very rare in unvaccinated children (less than .5%). In Germany, 11% of children suffer from this problem.
Less than 1% of unvaccinated children had experienced sinusitis. This compares with over 32% of children in Germany.
Only 4 unvaccinated children out of the 7,600+ total surveys reported severe autism. In all 4 cases, however, the mother tested very high for mercury. In the USA, approximately 1 in 100 children suffer this neurological illness and 1 in every 38 boys in the UK.
i po milioniti put - autizam nije bolest!!!
Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children
https://www.naturalnews.com/036220_vacc ... rgies.html
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#2485 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
[/quote]Smrcak15 wrote:https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com ... healthier/Mis mekinjas wrote:
Sve je ruski rulet. I necijepljenje djece.
Jesi ti kao odgovoran građanin i zagovaratelj necijepljenja odveo djecu na krvnu pretragu da provjeris otpornost organizma?
Kad to napravis prostri nam svima ove silne linkove pa cemo diskutovati.
Do tad de suti ziv bio, grijeh ti gluho bilo ispada iz usta.
Are Unvaccinated Children Truly Healthier Than Vaccinated?
Ok, let’s get down to brass tacks. Are unvaccinated children really healthier?
Here are the stats:
Less than 10% of unvaccinated children suffer from allergies of any kind. This compares with 40% of children in the USA ages 3-17 reporting an allergy to at least one allergen and 22.9% with an allergic disease.
.2% of unvaccinated children suffer from asthma. This compares with 14-15% of vaccinated children with asthma in Australia, 4.7% in Germany, and 6% in the USA.
1.5% of unvaccinated children suffer from hayfever. This compares with 10.7% in Germany.
2% of unvaccinated children had neurodermatitis. This auto-immune disorder affects over 13% of children in Germany.
ADHD was present in only 1-2% of the unvaccinated children. This compares with nearly 8% of children in Germany with ADHD and another 5.9% borderline cases.
Middle ear infections are very rare in unvaccinated children (less than .5%). In Germany, 11% of children suffer from this problem.
Less than 1% of unvaccinated children had experienced sinusitis. This compares with over 32% of children in Germany.
Only 4 unvaccinated children out of the 7,600+ total surveys reported severe autism. In all 4 cases, however, the mother tested very high for mercury. In the USA, approximately 1 in 100 children suffer this neurological illness and 1 in every 38 boys in the UK.
Ok, dokazao si moju tezu da ti je sve ruski rulet. Postoje sve iste bolesti i kod necijepljenih.
Da ponovim.
Jesi ti kao odgovoran građanin i zagovaratelj necijepljenja odveo djecu na krvnu pretragu da provjeris otpornost organizma?
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Mogy87
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#2486 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
Molim komentar na podatke SZO i dansku studiju koju sam postavila iznad. HvalaSmrcak15 wrote:a sta je ovoVladaFBiH wrote:samo da se referiram na posljednje - glupost koju samo antivaxeri tvrde a prije par dana je izašla studija na 650k djece i dokazala po 100ti put da je ovo antivaxerska glupost... a ni ostalo nije teško oborivo pa malo "iščitavaj" kako sam kažeš da voliš da radišSmrcak15 wrote:
https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com ... healthier/
Are Unvaccinated Children Truly Healthier Than Vaccinated?
Ok, let’s get down to brass tacks. Are unvaccinated children really healthier?
Here are the stats:
Less than 10% of unvaccinated children suffer from allergies of any kind. This compares with 40% of children in the USA ages 3-17 reporting an allergy to at least one allergen and 22.9% with an allergic disease.
.2% of unvaccinated children suffer from asthma. This compares with 14-15% of vaccinated children with asthma in Australia, 4.7% in Germany, and 6% in the USA.
1.5% of unvaccinated children suffer from hayfever. This compares with 10.7% in Germany.
2% of unvaccinated children had neurodermatitis. This auto-immune disorder affects over 13% of children in Germany.
ADHD was present in only 1-2% of the unvaccinated children. This compares with nearly 8% of children in Germany with ADHD and another 5.9% borderline cases.
Middle ear infections are very rare in unvaccinated children (less than .5%). In Germany, 11% of children suffer from this problem.
Less than 1% of unvaccinated children had experienced sinusitis. This compares with over 32% of children in Germany.
Only 4 unvaccinated children out of the 7,600+ total surveys reported severe autism. In all 4 cases, however, the mother tested very high for mercury. In the USA, approximately 1 in 100 children suffer this neurological illness and 1 in every 38 boys in the UK.
i po milioniti put - autizam nije bolest!!!
Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children
https://www.naturalnews.com/036220_vacc ... rgies.html
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easy
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#2487 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
Pa valjda pedijatar treba da ti kaze jel dijete u stanju dobiti vakcinu ili ne, a ne ti svojom slobodnom procjenom. Ako dijete nema temperaturu, moze vecinu vakcina da primi bez problema. Ali opet, kao sto rekoh, tu mora pedijatar da da svoj sud, a ne ti i ja.corei3 wrote:Kašljuca mi i nos mu curi tako da ipak nesmijemo, al hvala na savjetu, vidis to mi nije naumpalo.Mogy87 wrote:Izvadite nalaze privatno. Ako su mu crp i leukociti unutar normalnih granica vakcinisite dijete.corei3 wrote:Ovaj moj stariji dobio MRP, a mlađeg nikako da vakcinisemo, cijelu zimu neko u kući gripozan il on il mi i nesmijem ga odvest. Jeb ga.
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#2488 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
Nema na cemu. Po meni bi ovo trebalo uraditi prije svake vakcine.corei3 wrote:Kašljuca mi i nos mu curi tako da ipak nesmijemo, al hvala na savjetu, vidis to mi nije naumpalo.Mogy87 wrote:Izvadite nalaze privatno. Ako su mu crp i leukociti unutar normalnih granica vakcinisite dijete.corei3 wrote:Ovaj moj stariji dobio MRP, a mlađeg nikako da vakcinisemo, cijelu zimu neko u kući gripozan il on il mi i nesmijem ga odvest. Jeb ga.
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#2489 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
imas li ti djecu? jeusl prelezala ospice?triconja wrote:Sta ce male boginje, to se prelezi za heftuMogy87 wrote:Mjesas pljuskavice/vodene kozice/varicele sa ospicama/morbilima/malim boginjama/krzamkomsumirprimus wrote:stani malo, morbile su ospice? kako nismo znali za njih? pa mene stavljali u krevet sa zarazenom djecom da i ja to prebolujem zacas![]()
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Samo ruke redovno prat, ha ja
pa sta onda pametujes?
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#2490 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
referiraš se na sajt na kome piše doslovno ovo:Smrcak15 wrote:a sta je ovoVladaFBiH wrote:samo da se referiram na posljednje - glupost koju samo antivaxeri tvrde a prije par dana je izašla studija na 650k djece i dokazala po 100ti put da je ovo antivaxerska glupost... a ni ostalo nije teško oborivo pa malo "iščitavaj" kako sam kažeš da voliš da radišSmrcak15 wrote:
https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com ... healthier/
Are Unvaccinated Children Truly Healthier Than Vaccinated?
Ok, let’s get down to brass tacks. Are unvaccinated children really healthier?
Here are the stats:
Less than 10% of unvaccinated children suffer from allergies of any kind. This compares with 40% of children in the USA ages 3-17 reporting an allergy to at least one allergen and 22.9% with an allergic disease.
.2% of unvaccinated children suffer from asthma. This compares with 14-15% of vaccinated children with asthma in Australia, 4.7% in Germany, and 6% in the USA.
1.5% of unvaccinated children suffer from hayfever. This compares with 10.7% in Germany.
2% of unvaccinated children had neurodermatitis. This auto-immune disorder affects over 13% of children in Germany.
ADHD was present in only 1-2% of the unvaccinated children. This compares with nearly 8% of children in Germany with ADHD and another 5.9% borderline cases.
Middle ear infections are very rare in unvaccinated children (less than .5%). In Germany, 11% of children suffer from this problem.
Less than 1% of unvaccinated children had experienced sinusitis. This compares with over 32% of children in Germany.
Only 4 unvaccinated children out of the 7,600+ total surveys reported severe autism. In all 4 cases, however, the mother tested very high for mercury. In the USA, approximately 1 in 100 children suffer this neurological illness and 1 in every 38 boys in the UK.
i po milioniti put - autizam nije bolest!!!
Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children
https://www.naturalnews.com/036220_vacc ... rgies.html
Natural News is a science-based natural health advocacy organization led by activist-turned-scientist Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
bla bla bla pa onda kaže
Natural News also warns its readers about science gone bad and frequently cites examples of science resulting in catastrophies that it calls "crimes" against humanity. Examples of such subjects cited by Natural News include:
Agent Orange
Thalidomide
Nuclear weapons
GMOs and "genetic pollution"
Aspartame and chemical sweeteners
Chemotherapy
The presence of hidden cancer viruses in polio vaccines
The continued use of mercury in vaccines and dental amalgams
The long history of pharmaceutical experiments on human beings, including the Tuskegee syphilis experiments conducted on African Americans in the USA.
još samo nedostaje vanzemaljci su među nama
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Naslovnica
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#2491 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
Ne kontam, zašto da rade nalaz CRP-a i leukocita?!Mogy87 wrote:Izvadite nalaze privatno. Ako su mu crp i leukociti unutar normalnih granica vakcinisite dijete.corei3 wrote:Ovaj moj stariji dobio MRP, a mlađeg nikako da vakcinisemo, cijelu zimu neko u kući gripozan il on il mi i nesmijem ga odvest. Jeb ga.
Da li je redovna praksa da se prije MRP vakcine vade nalazi CRP-a i leukocita?
Ovo ja pomalo ironično jer sam 100% siguran da se djeci ne vade ti nalazi prije davanja MPR vakcine, a mogu biti povišeni bez nekih očigledno vidljivih spoljašnjih pokazatelja. Dijete naizgled zdravo 100%, OK za vakcinu, a u organizmu CRP "cirkus".
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Mogy87
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#2492 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
[/quote]
Pa valjda pedijatar treba da ti kaze jel dijete u stanju dobiti vakcinu ili ne, a ne ti svojom slobodnom procjenom. Ako dijete nema temperaturu, moze vecinu vakcina da primi bez problema. Ali opet, kao sto rekoh, tu mora pedijatar da da svoj sud, a ne ti i ja.[/quote]
Naravno. Nista ne radim na svoju ruku vec po preporuci pedijatra.
Pa valjda pedijatar treba da ti kaze jel dijete u stanju dobiti vakcinu ili ne, a ne ti svojom slobodnom procjenom. Ako dijete nema temperaturu, moze vecinu vakcina da primi bez problema. Ali opet, kao sto rekoh, tu mora pedijatar da da svoj sud, a ne ti i ja.[/quote]
Naravno. Nista ne radim na svoju ruku vec po preporuci pedijatra.
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Mogy87
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#2493 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
Ne vade se. Za ove "granicne" slucajeve gdje roditelji nisu sigurni psiholoski je lakse ako se izvade nalazi. Jer ukoliko dijete nema temperaturu i pluca su cista vakcina se moze dati.Naslovnica wrote:Ne kontam, zašto da rade nalaz CRP-a i leukocita?!Mogy87 wrote:Izvadite nalaze privatno. Ako su mu crp i leukociti unutar normalnih granica vakcinisite dijete.corei3 wrote:Ovaj moj stariji dobio MRP, a mlađeg nikako da vakcinisemo, cijelu zimu neko u kući gripozan il on il mi i nesmijem ga odvest. Jeb ga.
Da li je redovna praksa da se prije MRP vakcine vade nalazi CRP-a i leukocita?
Ovo ja pomalo ironično jer sam 100% siguran da se djeci ne vade ti nalazi prije davanja MPR vakcine, a mogu biti povišeni bez nekih očigledno vidljivih spoljašnjih pokazatelja. Dijete naizgled zdravo 100%, OK za vakcinu, a u organizmu CRP "cirkus".
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Naslovnica
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#2494 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
I najvažnije od svega, ali to niko ne spominje!
Koliko je Vas odraslih (uključujući i mene) vakcinisano na MMR (i revakcinisano)?!
Navalilo se da se djeca vakcinišu, revakcinišu, ovo-ono, kolektivni imunitet - a šta je sa odraslima?!?!?!
Vakcinacija protiv malih boginja je počela 1971. (M) , osamdesetih MM, a tek od 1994 MMR.
Ako može pojašnjenje, o čemu mi zaista onda ovdje pričamo?!
Koliko je Vas odraslih (uključujući i mene) vakcinisano na MMR (i revakcinisano)?!
Navalilo se da se djeca vakcinišu, revakcinišu, ovo-ono, kolektivni imunitet - a šta je sa odraslima?!?!?!
Vakcinacija protiv malih boginja je počela 1971. (M) , osamdesetih MM, a tek od 1994 MMR.
Ako može pojašnjenje, o čemu mi zaista onda ovdje pričamo?!
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- S4mpion
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#2495 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
Šta ako kažu da je nisu kupili, a sve se bojim da će upravo to reći?polacijela wrote:@S4mpion
Šta je dalje? Hamo, vid' mu gloove?
Pitaj doktore što su protiv vakcinisanja jesu li kupili diplomu. I nađi mi ijednog infektologa i epidemiologa u BiH sa kupljenom diplomom. Nećeš naći nijednog, nije parali posao. Njih vodi čista SAVJEST. Manekeni i influenseri su u drugim granama![]()
šta kaže smrčak? "bolji sanitarni uslovi i zdravija ishrana doprinijeli padu smrtnosti od zaraznih bolesti"
???
Pa otkud epidemija u KS 2019. godine?
Što dijete umrije od morbila u 21. stoljeću usred Sarajeva?
Je li uviđaš koliko ne možemo vjerovati državi ni u kojem segmentu?
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Naslovnica
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#2496 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]Mogy87 wrote:Ne vade se. Za ove "granicne" slucajeve gdje roditelji nisu sigurni psiholoski je lakse ako se izvade nalazi. Jer ukoliko dijete nema temperaturu i pluca su cista vakcina se moze dati.Naslovnica wrote:Ne kontam, zašto da rade nalaz CRP-a i leukocita?!Mogy87 wrote:[quote="corei3"Ovaj moj stariji dobio MRP, a mlađeg nikako da vakcinisemo, cijelu zimu neko u kući gripozan il on il mi i nesmijem ga odvest. Jeb ga./quote]
Izvadite nalaze privatno. Ako su mu crp i leukociti unutar normalnih granica vakcinisite dijete.
Da li je redovna praksa da se prije MRP vakcine vade nalazi CRP-a i leukocita?
Ovo ja pomalo ironično jer sam 100% siguran da se djeci ne vade ti nalazi prije davanja MPR vakcine, a mogu biti povišeni bez nekih očigledno vidljivih spoljašnjih pokazatelja. Dijete naizgled zdravo 100%, OK za vakcinu, a u organizmu CRP "cirkus".
Ma ja, pa tako moje dijete zaglavi u bolnici nakon vakcine, a i drugo nije prošlo bez reakcije. Pojavu alergija u periodu nakon primljenih vakcina neću ni spominjati, jer "nemam dokaze" pa je suvišno diskutovati.
Ne slušam Karleušu, gadi mi se, ne slušam anti-vaxx lobi i slične teorije, ali pokušavam logično da zaključim na osnovu LIČNOG iskustva i logičkim razmišljanjem.
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sumirprimus
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#2497 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
plus dodaj nase nabavke, porijeklo,proizvodzace, cijenu, i crv sumnje je vec glista 
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#2498 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
Mi ne znamo koliki je broj takvih slučajeva jer država ne vodi nikakvu evidenciju o tome, dakle, taj broj može biti i ekstremno veliki, ali kad se ne vodi evidencija, kako znati?Mis mekinjas wrote: Izbio mi je oči odbraNbeni mehanizam.
Izvinjavam se, nastavite svađu.
Usput da kažem spram tuđeg iskustva nešto. Ako dijete ima reakciju na prvo cjepivo, roditelj bi sam trebao platiti djetetu pregled na antitijela. Istina, ima djece sa urođenim imunitetom. Ali ne cijepiti dijete jer je u malom broju slučajeva tuđe alergično je u najmanju ruku smiješno. I dalje se govori o malom broju slučajeva.
Ja znam djece, koja su necijepljena, a alergična su i na jaja i na koštunjičavo voće, a obolijevala su i od zaraznih bolesti.
No dobro, svak sebe nek gleda.
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#2499 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
Smrcak15 wrote:a sta je ovoVladaFBiH wrote:samo da se referiram na posljednje - glupost koju samo antivaxeri tvrde a prije par dana je izašla studija na 650k djece i dokazala po 100ti put da je ovo antivaxerska glupost... a ni ostalo nije teško oborivo pa malo "iščitavaj" kako sam kažeš da voliš da radišSmrcak15 wrote:
https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com ... healthier/
Are Unvaccinated Children Truly Healthier Than Vaccinated?
Ok, let’s get down to brass tacks. Are unvaccinated children really healthier?
Here are the stats:
Less than 10% of unvaccinated children suffer from allergies of any kind. This compares with 40% of children in the USA ages 3-17 reporting an allergy to at least one allergen and 22.9% with an allergic disease.
.2% of unvaccinated children suffer from asthma. This compares with 14-15% of vaccinated children with asthma in Australia, 4.7% in Germany, and 6% in the USA.
1.5% of unvaccinated children suffer from hayfever. This compares with 10.7% in Germany.
2% of unvaccinated children had neurodermatitis. This auto-immune disorder affects over 13% of children in Germany.
ADHD was present in only 1-2% of the unvaccinated children. This compares with nearly 8% of children in Germany with ADHD and another 5.9% borderline cases.
Middle ear infections are very rare in unvaccinated children (less than .5%). In Germany, 11% of children suffer from this problem.
Less than 1% of unvaccinated children had experienced sinusitis. This compares with over 32% of children in Germany.
Only 4 unvaccinated children out of the 7,600+ total surveys reported severe autism. In all 4 cases, however, the mother tested very high for mercury. In the USA, approximately 1 in 100 children suffer this neurological illness and 1 in every 38 boys in the UK.
i po milioniti put - autizam nije bolest!!!
Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children
https://www.naturalnews.com/036220_vacc ... rgies.html
hahaha Smrčak jesi li ti ovo dobro iščitao, pa bolan nebio kakav ti je ovo izvor i websajt, je li ti stvarno surfaš po ovim sranjima i tako se informišeš?
Natural News is a conspiracy website that sells various dietary supplements, and promotes alternative medicine, controversial nutrition and health claims, fake news, and various conspiracy theories
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polacijela
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#2500 Re: VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?
Jedini koji prave promet i profit infektolozima i epidemiolozima su antiwaxxeri koji su svojom propagandom vratili bolesti koje se decenijama nisu javljale ili nisu javljale u ovom obimu, što troškove liječenja diže u tačku.Naslovnica wrote: Svako profitira na konto svoje branše.
Pedijatri uzimaju najbolju pinku (%) za antibiotike (dobar dan, ni ne pogleda dijete - antibiotik, i to, čudna mi čuda, ordinacija "brandirana" u taj antibiotik, od hemijske do žaluzina, porodični ljekari za živče, lexiće i slične droge, internista za kojekakve lijekove za pritisak, samo su epidemiolozi i infektolozi u krizi, slabo kapa pinka, pa se nadigla hampa.
Da se čovjek prosto zapita za čiji interes rade...
