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Kletva Americi

by Milic od Macve



Kaca Božijeg gneva srucice se na tebe, Ameriko! Došao je vapat. Sram da te bude! Sa kakvom junecom upornošcu hoceš srpski plast sena da razbucaš! Usta ti se za vrat okrenula, guba ti se na dom rasputila, obadva ti oka iscurila, te vranama živa hrana bila; ka zengama Srbi što su sada!

Od šta bežala od tog ne pobegla, naopacke noge okrenula, sa psima se oko kosti klala, iz pasijeg korita lokala. Oko vrata verige nosila, dom ti crna koprena zavila. Na krovu ti zagraktale cavke ako bombe na Beograd sruciš! Ognjište ti kiša ugasila. Krv ti mrka za zverinje lokva. Na pseci se sugreb navrznula, svrab nosila - dranje ne pomoglo. Uskrsova jaja ne šarala, svoja oba u mengele metla što Bejkera i Buša ponela.

Bog veliki i velika sila, naredio te se ispunilo. Vriskom išla na casne verige, vrat slomila na vovedenije, manit lajala na voskresenije, Ameriko, cuj glas ponositog! Srpom žnjela nad zmijama trnje! Kosom strugala studeno kamenje! Užetom se konjskim opasala a prosjackim štapom poštapala. Kile vukla do zemljice crne, na glavi ti stajalo kamenje, oko vrata belutak privezla i u bunar kosmicki se vrgla. Smrcalo ti al ti ne svitalo. Plakalo ti al se ne tešilo. Veštice ti srecu odnosile a sove ti hranu donosile, po sred noci dok ljudi spavaju.
Snaga ti se u drobu prelila. Do pasa te živina kljucala a od pasa guba razjedala. S ježevima zime zimovala, oštre bodlje kapke ti grebale, tude oci zemljom te vodile, od kamenja koljivo kuvala, u rešeto vodu zavatala, psece meso u pomami jela a na glavi mravinjak nosila! Umirala a ne mogla umreti.

Grob sama sebi rukama kopala, raspadala se a ne raspala se. U krpelj se teški pretvorila, a iz kože nikad ne izišla što Tudmana demokratom tvoriš. Vetar meso sa tebe skidao, u kuci ti duša ne zborila, sve ti hladnim ledom zaledilo. Nit ženila niti se veselila, od kuce ti ostali ugarci, med zubima pseca deltina! Ameriko, Broz te usrecio! Da i tebe ropac drhtav snade! Crnacki te gnevi umorili! Kletva moja sa nebeskih soha neka bude Božija pomisao.
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Clanak iz National Journal

In Endgame, Metrics Are Adding Up For Obama
It Ain't Over Till It's Over, But Several Key Factors Don't Look Good For McCain

by Charlie Cook
Tuesday, Oct. 21, 2008



One of the most unsettling aspects of this campaign is that for an election cycle so turbulent, with so many surprising twists and turns, over the last few days it suddenly has had the feel of concrete setting. Just seven or eight weeks ago, Sen. Barack Obama had a lead over Sen. John McCain, but it hardly seemed sure; we wondered, is this lead real, is it durable?

But today it seems very unlikely that the focal point of this election is going to shift away from the economy. And as long as the economy is the focal point, it's difficult to see how this gets any better for Republicans up or down the ballot. It's sobering to think of the magnitude an event would have to have to pull voters' minds off the economy, the credit markets that have seized up, the stock market that has been pummeled, the values of their 401(k) and other retirement plans that have plummeted. How can an election that was so volatile now suddenly seem to be so inevitable?

With Obama now outspending McCain routinely by margins of 3- and 4-to-1 in advertising in so many states, it's hard to see how the Arizonan's campaign can drive a message.

At this point it would be difficult to see Republican losses in the Senate and House to be fewer than seven and 20 respectively. A very challenging situation going into September turned into a meltdown last month, the most dire predictions for the GOP early on became the most likely outcome.

The metrics of this election argue strongly that this campaign is over, it's only the memory of many an election that seemed over but wasn't that is keeping us from closing the book mentally on this one. First, no candidate behind this far in the national polls, this late in the campaign has come back to win. Sure, we have seen come-from-behind victories, but they didn't come back this far this late.

Second, early voting has made comebacks harder and would tend to diminish the impact of the kind of late-breaking development that might save McCain's candidacy. With as many as one-third of voters likely to cast their ballot before Election Day, every day more are cast and the campaign is effectively over for them. The longer Obama has this kind of lead and the more votes are cast early, the more voters are out of the pool for McCain.

Third, considering that 89 percent of all voters who identified themselves as Democrats voted for John Kerry four years ago and 93 percent of Republicans cast their ballots for George W. Bush, the switch from parity between the parties to a 10-point Democratic advantage would seem to almost seal this outcome irrespective of the candidates fielded on each side. The unprecedented surges seen in Democratic party registrations in those states that require party affiliations confirm that.

Fourth, just look at the money and spending. With Obama now outspending McCain routinely by margins of 3- and 4-to-1 in advertising in so many states, it's hard to see how the Arizonan's campaign can drive a message. For a time, Obama was matching McCain one for one in negative advertising, then spending double or triple on top of that in positive advertising. Now Obama seems primarily doing positive ads, probably the right move given his lead going into this final stretch. Organizationally, it's hard to find any state where McCain is organized as well as President Bush was four years ago or Obama is today, a product of both money and enthusiasm.

Fifth, while many are talking about the so-called "Bradley effect," voters telling pollsters that they will vote for an African-American candidate when they won't, putting aside the question of whether it ever existed, it hasn't been seen in at least 15 years and the likely surge in turnout among African-American and young people seems sufficient to offset it anyway.

Finally there are the states. Obama is now leading in every state that Al Gore and John Kerry both won, including Michigan, Pennsylvania, Minnesota and Wisconsin, and he is ahead in Iowa, New Hampshire and New Mexico, the three states that went once but not twice for Democrats in 2000 and 2004. He is also ahead in Florida, Colorado and Virginia. If that weren't enough (and it is), he's running basically even in Indiana, Missouri, Nevada, North Carolina and Ohio, and even threatening in Montana, North Dakota and West Virginia.

As things are going now, this election would appear to be on a track to match Bill Clinton's 1992 5.6 percent margin over President George H.W. Bush, the question is whether it gets to Bush's 1988 7.7 percent win over Michael Dukakis or Clinton's 8.5 percent win over Robert Dole in 1996.

Maybe some cataclysmic event occurs in the next two weeks that changes the trajectory of this election, but to override these factors, it would have to be very, very big.
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jefferson wrote:Sto se tice onih 50% koji su glasali za Busha (koji opet ima nadprosjecan IQ, 125, ali to za moje shvatanje nije mjerilo) samo trebas pogledati u svojoj avliji sta se desava zadnjih 18 godina. Amerikanci jesu birali dva puta idiota, mi to vec 5-6 puta radimo.
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Ne znam da li je vec neko spomenuo moguci angazman Richarda Holbrooke-a u Obaminoj administraciji, ali sva je prilika da je medju glavnim kandidatima za mjesto Sec. of State i Natl. Sec. Advisor-a. Nekiod glavnih savjetnika Obame za foreign policy su medju ostalima dobri Holbrooke-ovi prijatelji - M. Albright i T. Lake, oboje sretni na svojim akademskim pozicijama i nezainteresovani za ove pozicije. Holbrooke, i pored reputacije da je arogantan tip, uziva respekt medju demokratama i republikancima i vjerovatno bi lako prosao konfirmacijski proces u Senatu. Mozda je prerano o ovome pricati, ali sta vi mislite? Imam svojih rezervacija spram Holbrooke-a, ali mislim da bi nam dobrodosao u trenutnoj situaciji... A evo i malo se medijski propinje o tom pitanju...

The Guardian


A Bosnian powder keg
We are sleepwalking into another Balkan crisis. The EU and the US must take urgent, united action

By Paddy Ashdown, Richard Holbrooke

Wednesday October 22 2008

Almost exactly 13 years ago, American leadership brought an end to Bosnia's three-and-a-half-year war through the Dayton peace agreement. Today the country is in real danger of collapse. As in 1995, resolve and transatlantic unity are needed if we are not to sleepwalk into another crisis.

Bosnian Serb Prime Minister Milorad Dodik, once the darling of the international community (and especially Washington) for his opposition to the nationalist Serb Democratic party, has adopted that party's agenda without being tainted by their genocidal baggage. His long-term policy seems clear: to place his Serb entity, Republika Srpska, in a position to secede if the opportunity arises. Exploiting the weaknesses in the country's constitutional structure, the international community's weariness and EU inability to stick by its conditionality, he has, in two years, reversed much of the real progress in Bosnia over the past 13, crucially weakened the institutions of the Bosnian state, and all but stopped the country's evolution into a functioning (and EU-compatible) state.

Dodik's actions have been fuelled by Russian encouragement and petrodollars. In addition his rival, the senior president of all of Bosnia-Herzegovina, Haris Silajdzic, has stressed the need to abolish the two entities that make up Bosnia, to create one non-federal country. Dodik professes to respect Dayton and Silajdzic wishes to revise it, but both men are violating its basic principle: a federal system within a single state. This toxic interaction is at the heart of today's Bosnian crisis.

As a result, the suspicion and fear that began the war in 1992 has been reinvigorated. A destructive dynamic is accelerating, and Bosnian and Croat nationalism is on the rise. The recent local elections gave a fillip to nationalist parties.

This tipping point is the result of a distracted international community. While the Bush administration largely turned its back on Bosnia, the EU became deeply engaged; EU membership has been the critical lever for pressing reforms in Bosnia since it was made policy in 2003. But the EU did not develop a coherent strategy, and by proclaiming progress where it has not been achieved, the EU has weakened not only its own influence in the country, but also the Office of the High Representative (OHR) and the international military presence (the European Union Force, Eufor, which succeeded Nato) the drivers of progress in Bosnia since Dayton.

The degeneration of the OHR's influence coincided with the withdrawal of the US military and the hollowing-out of Eufor, which now has little in the way of operational capacity. Despite the danger signals, France and Spain apparently want to pull the plug on Eufor altogether before the end of the year, seemingly to prove the purely technical point that EU missions can end.

The EU, fixated on a still undefined "transition" from OHR to an EU-centred mission, seems intent on emptying its toolbox before it knows what tools it will need to enable Bosnia's transition. It failed, for example, to back its man on the ground, the able Slovak diplomat Miroslav Lajcak, at a crucial moment, fatally undermining his authority.

Like Dodik, Russia is exploiting weak EU resolve, making trouble for the US and EU where possible. Yet Moscow's equities in Bosnia pale in comparison to those of the EU or US. Their attempts to close the high representative's office, regardless of whether the job is done, must be rebuffed. It has to remain open - or a similarly strong organisation set up - until the conditions for the transition to a more normal EU presence are met. The US, lame duck or not, must re-engage.

Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, should initiate an independent study tasked to produce a new transatlantic policy, backed by Washington's full engagement and strong EU conditionality, which can lead to deeper and broader international involvement in Bosnia. A collapse of the Dayton peace agreement would be an unnecessary and unwanted additional problem for the new White House administration.

Post-Irish referendum, the EU's foreign policy will be, above all, a Balkan policy. Attention has recently focused on Kosovo. But Bosnia has always been the bigger and more dangerous challenge. The country's decline can still be arrested, provided the EU wakes up, the new US administration gets engaged, and both renew their commitment to Bosnia's survival as a state, by maintaining an effective troop presence and beginning the process of strengthening the international community's approach long-term, including finding ways to untie Bosnia's constitutional knot.

It's time to pay attention to Bosnia again, if we don't want things to get very nasty quickly. By now, we should all know the price of that.

• Paddy Ashdown was the international community's high representative and EU special representative in Bosnia and Herzegovina from 2002 to 2006. Richard Holbrooke was the chief architect of the 1995 Dayton peace agreement
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Apostate wrote:Ne znam da li je vec neko spomenuo moguci angazman Richarda Holbrooke-a u Obaminoj administraciji, ali sva je prilika da je medju glavnim kandidatima za mjesto Sec. of State i Natl. Sec. Advisor-a. Nekiod glavnih savjetnika Obame za foreign policy su medju ostalima dobri Holbrooke-ovi prijatelji - M. Albright i T. Lake, oboje sretni na svojim akademskim pozicijama i nezainteresovani za ove pozicije. Holbrooke, i pored reputacije da je arogantan tip, uziva respekt medju demokratama i republikancima i vjerovatno bi lako prosao konfirmacijski proces u Senatu. Mozda je prerano o ovome pricati, ali sta vi mislite? Imam svojih rezervacija spram Holbrooke-a, ali mislim da bi nam dobrodosao u trenutnoj situaciji... A evo i malo se medijski propinje o tom pitanju...

The Guardian


A Bosnian powder keg
We are sleepwalking into another Balkan crisis. The EU and the US must take urgent, united action

By Paddy Ashdown, Richard Holbrooke

Wednesday October 22 2008

Almost exactly 13 years ago, American leadership brought an end to Bosnia's three-and-a-half-year war through the Dayton peace agreement. Today the country is in real danger of collapse. As in 1995, resolve and transatlantic unity are needed if we are not to sleepwalk into another crisis.

Bosnian Serb Prime Minister Milorad Dodik, once the darling of the international community (and especially Washington) for his opposition to the nationalist Serb Democratic party, has adopted that party's agenda without being tainted by their genocidal baggage. His long-term policy seems clear: to place his Serb entity, Republika Srpska, in a position to secede if the opportunity arises. Exploiting the weaknesses in the country's constitutional structure, the international community's weariness and EU inability to stick by its conditionality, he has, in two years, reversed much of the real progress in Bosnia over the past 13, crucially weakened the institutions of the Bosnian state, and all but stopped the country's evolution into a functioning (and EU-compatible) state.

Dodik's actions have been fuelled by Russian encouragement and petrodollars. In addition his rival, the senior president of all of Bosnia-Herzegovina, Haris Silajdzic, has stressed the need to abolish the two entities that make up Bosnia, to create one non-federal country. Dodik professes to respect Dayton and Silajdzic wishes to revise it, but both men are violating its basic principle: a federal system within a single state. This toxic interaction is at the heart of today's Bosnian crisis.

As a result, the suspicion and fear that began the war in 1992 has been reinvigorated. A destructive dynamic is accelerating, and Bosnian and Croat nationalism is on the rise. The recent local elections gave a fillip to nationalist parties.

This tipping point is the result of a distracted international community. While the Bush administration largely turned its back on Bosnia, the EU became deeply engaged; EU membership has been the critical lever for pressing reforms in Bosnia since it was made policy in 2003. But the EU did not develop a coherent strategy, and by proclaiming progress where it has not been achieved, the EU has weakened not only its own influence in the country, but also the Office of the High Representative (OHR) and the international military presence (the European Union Force, Eufor, which succeeded Nato) the drivers of progress in Bosnia since Dayton.

The degeneration of the OHR's influence coincided with the withdrawal of the US military and the hollowing-out of Eufor, which now has little in the way of operational capacity. Despite the danger signals, France and Spain apparently want to pull the plug on Eufor altogether before the end of the year, seemingly to prove the purely technical point that EU missions can end.

The EU, fixated on a still undefined "transition" from OHR to an EU-centred mission, seems intent on emptying its toolbox before it knows what tools it will need to enable Bosnia's transition. It failed, for example, to back its man on the ground, the able Slovak diplomat Miroslav Lajcak, at a crucial moment, fatally undermining his authority.

Like Dodik, Russia is exploiting weak EU resolve, making trouble for the US and EU where possible. Yet Moscow's equities in Bosnia pale in comparison to those of the EU or US. Their attempts to close the high representative's office, regardless of whether the job is done, must be rebuffed. It has to remain open - or a similarly strong organisation set up - until the conditions for the transition to a more normal EU presence are met. The US, lame duck or not, must re-engage.

Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, should initiate an independent study tasked to produce a new transatlantic policy, backed by Washington's full engagement and strong EU conditionality, which can lead to deeper and broader international involvement in Bosnia. A collapse of the Dayton peace agreement would be an unnecessary and unwanted additional problem for the new White House administration.

Post-Irish referendum, the EU's foreign policy will be, above all, a Balkan policy. Attention has recently focused on Kosovo. But Bosnia has always been the bigger and more dangerous challenge. The country's decline can still be arrested, provided the EU wakes up, the new US administration gets engaged, and both renew their commitment to Bosnia's survival as a state, by maintaining an effective troop presence and beginning the process of strengthening the international community's approach long-term, including finding ways to untie Bosnia's constitutional knot.

It's time to pay attention to Bosnia again, if we don't want things to get very nasty quickly. By now, we should all know the price of that.

• Paddy Ashdown was the international community's high representative and EU special representative in Bosnia and Herzegovina from 2002 to 2006. Richard Holbrooke was the chief architect of the 1995 Dayton peace agreement
Mislim da ces na poziciji Sec. of State vidjeti Richarda Lugara, a Holbrook nije iskljucen kao neki od savjetnika.
Richard Lugar iako je republikanac, mnoge demokrate bi ga voljele vidjeti zbog pragmaticnosti i poznavanja medjunarodnih odnosa. Takodje, sa tim potezom Obama bi pokazao volju da radi "s drugom" stranom.
Mene T.Lake uopce ne odusevljava, iako je sada glavni Obamin savjetnik za vanjsku politiku.
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#2357 Re: Americki predsjednicki izbori

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jefferson wrote:Sto se tice onih 50% koji su glasali za Busha (koji opet ima nadprosjecan IQ, 125, ali to za moje shvatanje nije mjerilo) samo trebas pogledati u svojoj avliji sta se desava zadnjih 18 godina. Amerikanci jesu birali dva puta idiota, mi to vec 5-6 puta radimo.
aha ;-)
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Sarajevcac wrote:Apsolutno je svejedno ko ce pobijediti u Americi zato sto je Amerika nepovratno izgubila vodecu ulogu u svijetu.
Bash me interesuje, ko to vodi?
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svejedno je ko pobijedi, svi su oni u funkciji cionista...hito ti to priznati ili ne:
rothschild rule the world!
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latinalover wrote:svejedno je ko pobijedi, svi su oni u funkciji cionista...hito ti to priznati ili ne:
rothschild rule the world!
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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ahuseino wrote:
latinalover wrote:svejedno je ko pobijedi, svi su oni u funkciji cionista...hito ti to priznati ili ne:
rothschild rule the world!
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
"The world is governed by very different personages to what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes." - Benjamin Disraeli
Pa ti vrti ocima koliko god hoces...
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2407 wrote:
ahuseino wrote:
latinalover wrote:svejedno je ko pobijedi, svi su oni u funkciji cionista...hito ti to priznati ili ne:
rothschild rule the world!
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
"The world is governed by very different personages to what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes." - Benjamin Disraeli
Pa ti vrti ocima koliko god hoces...
... Evo ga teoretichari napadaju i ovdje :-D ...


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Kontam da ne otvaram novu temu
Američki komunisti tvrde da je kapitalizmu odzvonilo
Datum: 18.10.2008 20:44
Autor: D. Raduški
Američka komunistička partija ovih dana likuje, jer njeni članovi tvrde da je najnovija finansijska kriza samo dokaz da je kapitalizmu "odzvonilo".

U sjedištu partije, koje se nalazi u 23. ulici na Menhetnu, regionalni lider Libero dela Pjana (36) detaljno iznosi svoje mišljenje o tome kako je konačno došlo vrijeme marksističko-lenjinističke ideje.
"Zaista smo puni nade i optimizma, prvi put nakon toliko godina imamo osjećaj da je naše vrijeme konačno došlo", kaže Dela Pjana, koji ima italijanske i afroameričke krvi u sebi.
Ističe da prvi put od vremena Ronalda Regana može reći da se Americi smiješi bolja budućnost, budućnost zasnovana na novim idejama, a ne zasnovana na pohlepi nekolo kapitalista.
Američka komunistička partija osnovana je davne 1919. godine, ali nikada zapravo nije uspjela da učvrsti svoje pozicije na američkoj političkoj sceni. Tokom perioda hladnog rata njeni članovi su bili progonjeni, diskriminisani, pa čak i otpuštani sa posla.
To je period pedesetih godina poznat kao makartizam, koji je obilježio početnu fazu hladnog rata, a karakteriše ga politički progon lijevo orijentisanih intelektualaca, članova američke Komunističke partije te osumnjičenih komunističkih simpatizera, zasnovan na sumnjivim ili nikakvim dokazima.
Kampanja je dobila ime po američkom senatoru Džozefu Makartiju, republikancu iz Viskonsina, koji je krajem četrdesetih godina bio inicijator takve politike.
Međutim, nada umire posljednja. Najnovije stanje u finasnijskom sektoru komunistima je bukvalno dalo krila, jer je to dokaz svega onoga za šta se komunisti zalažu.
Usljed kolapsa Vol Strita i razočaranja američke javnosti, komunisti kažu da je sve više ljudi koji ih zovu i raspituju se za njihov politički program.
"Moram priznati da svaki dan imamo sve više poziva. Ljudi zovu, interesuju se za naš program. Mislim da je ovo jasan dokaz da i mi jednog dana možemo imati bitnu ulogu na američkoj političkoj sceni", kaže Dela Pjana.
On dodaje da je ova finansijska kriza jedna velika lekcija za sve:
"Svi treba da znaju ono što mi znamo odavno; tržište ne može samo da se reguliše, jer u protivnom sve će izmaći kontroli."
Erika Smajli, koordinator za omladinu, objašnjava da se njen ogranak bavi pitanjima kao što je mir u svijetu, nova radna mjesta, obrazovanje.
"Mi smo tu da omladini damo odgovore na sva ta pitanja", kaže ona, koja svakodnevno obilazi omladinu na terenu dijeleći letke Komunističke partije.
Naravno, veliko je pitanje da li Komunistička partija može bilo šta od toga da ostvari.
Ipak, njihov štab na Menhetnu, stjecištu kapitalista, i nije baš dokaz njihove istinske posvećenosti komunističkim idejama, iako je opremljen svim Lenjinovim i Marksovim tomovima.
Sama atmosfera u sjedištu je prilično mirna, možda čak i suviše, ni blizu revolucionarnim težnjama članova Komunističke partije.
"Naši aktivisti su svakodnevno na terenu. Ovih dana uglavnom idu i informišu ljude o važnosti glasanja, te koliko je bitno da se izađe na izbore", kaže Bil Dejvis, koji je član partije punih 37 godina.
Ono što je zanimljivo jeste da Američka komunistička partija zvanično nije podržala nijednog kandidata na ovogodišnjim izborima, iako je očigledno da većina članova podržava Baraka Obamu, jer mahom svi nose bedževe s njegovom slikom.
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ahuseino wrote: ... Evo ga teoretichari napadaju i ovdje :-D ...


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Ako ti nazivas Benjamina Disraielija, engleskog premijera koji je obavljao tu funkciju dva puta u doba kada je Engleska bila nesto kao sto je to danas vasa maternja zemlja tj. sila nad silom, teoreticarem onda s tobom nesto nije uredu.
Vrti ti ocima i dalje...
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Interesantan clanak is NY Times

Rebranding the U.S. With Obama

The other day I had a conversation with a Beijing friend and I mentioned that Barack Obama was leading in the presidential race:

She: Obama? But he’s the black man, isn’t he?

Me: Yes, exactly.

She: But surely a black man couldn’t become president of the United States?

Me: It looks as if he’ll be elected.

She: But president? That’s such an important job! In America, I thought blacks were janitors and laborers.

Me: No, blacks have all kinds of jobs.

She: What do white people think about that, about getting a black president? Are they upset? Are they angry?

Me: No, of course not! If Obama is elected, it’ll be because white people voted for him.

[Long pause.]

She: Really? Unbelievable! What an amazing country!

We’re beginning to get a sense of how Barack Obama’s political success could change global perceptions of the United States, redefining the American “brand” to be less about Guantánamo and more about equality. This change in perceptions would help rebuild American political capital in the way that the Marshall Plan did in the 1950s or that John Kennedy’s presidency did in the early 1960s.

In his endorsement of Mr. Obama, Colin Powell noted that “the new president is going to have to fix the reputation that we’ve left with the rest of the world.” That’s not because we crave admiration, but because cooperation is essential to address 21st-century challenges; you can’t fire cruise missiles at the global financial crisis.

In his endorsement, Mr. Powell added that an Obama election “will also not only electrify our country, I think it’ll electrify the world.” You can already see that. A 22-nation survey by the BBC found that voters abroad preferred Mr. Obama to Mr. McCain in every single country — by four to one over all. Nearly half of those in the BBC poll said that the election of Mr. Obama, an African-American, would “fundamentally change” their perceptions of the United States.

Europe is particularly intoxicated by the possibility of restoring amity with America in an Obama presidency. As The Economist put it: “Across the Continent, Bush hatred has been replaced by Obama-mania.”

Steven Kull, director of the Program on International Policy Attitudes, which conducted the BBC poll, said that at a recent international conference he attended in Malaysia, many Muslims voiced astonishment at Mr. Obama’s rise because it was so much at odds with their assumptions about the United States. Remember that the one thing countless millions of people around the world “know” about the United States is that it is controlled by a cabal of white bankers and Jews who use police with fire hoses to repress blacks. To them, Mr. Obama’s rise triggers severe cognitive dissonance.

“It’s an anomaly, so contrary to their expectation that it makes them receptive to a new paradigm for the U.S.,” Mr. Kull said.

Europeans like to mock the vapidity of American politics, but they also acknowledge that it would be difficult to imagine a brown or black person leading France or Germany.

As for Africa, Mr. Obama’s Kenyan father was of the Luo tribe, a minority that has long suffered brutal discrimination in both Kenya and in Uganda (where it is known as the Acholi). The bitter joke in East Africa is that a Luo has more of a chance of becoming president in the United States than in Kenya.

Yet before we get too far with the self-congratulations, it’s worth remembering something else.

In the western industrialized world, full of university graduates and marinated in principles of egalitarianism, the idea of electing a member of a racial minority to the highest office seems an astonishing breakthrough. But Jamaica’s 95 percent black population elected a white man as its prime minister in 1980, and kept him in office throughout that decade.

Likewise, the African nation of Mauritius has elected a white prime minister of French origin. And don’t forget that India is overwhelmingly Hindu but now has a Sikh prime minister and a white Christian as president of its ruling party, and until last year it had a Muslim in the largely ceremonial position of president.

Look, Mr. Obama’s skin color is a bad reason to vote for him or against him. Substance should always trump symbolism.

Yet if this election goes as the polls suggest, we may find a path to restore America’s global influence — and thus to achieve some of our international objectives — in part because the world is concluding that Americans can, after all, see beyond a person’s epidermis. My hunch is that that is right, and that we’re every bit as open-minded about racial minorities as Jamaicans already were a quarter-century ago.
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#2366 Re: Americki predsjednicki izbori

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2407 wrote:
ahuseino wrote:
latinalover wrote:svejedno je ko pobijedi, svi su oni u funkciji cionista...hito ti to priznati ili ne:
rothschild rule the world!
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
"The world is governed by very different personages to what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes." - Benjamin Disraeli
Pa ti vrti ocima koliko god hoces...
Svijet nije 'governed' ni sa kim. U svijetu postoje mocni ljudi i mocne zemlje koje se medjusobno natezu, takmice, ratuju, itd. Pored njih postoji i veliki broj manje mocnih ljudi i zemalja. I oni imaju svoj limitiran uticaj. No svejedno, svijetom ne 'upravlja' par ljudi, porodica ili grupacija ili jedna zemlja. To je uprosteno i naivno razmisljanje. Da naravno da postoje kojekakvi cionisti, masoni, Rotschildi, Bilderberzi, Sorosi, Ruperti, G8, naftni i raznorazni drugi lobiji, i sta ja znam mozemo tako nabrajati do sutra. Svi ti ljudi imaju itekako uticaj na desavanja u svijetu, naravno shodno njihovoj finansijskoj moci, ali nisu oni jedini koji imaju uticaj. Pogotovo je naivno razmisljati da svi uticajni i ljudi i lobiji razmisljaju jednako. U stvari oni najcesce imaju potpuno suprotne ciljeve. I sad konstatovati kako je sve u funkciji samo jedne grupe ljudi je nerealno, a pogotovo citirati nekog britanskog politicara iz 19-og vijeka da bi opisao desavanja u 21-om.
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#2367 Re: Americki predsjednicki izbori

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Sarajevcac wrote:Jedino Izrael ima konstantno korist od Amerike, i jedino bi zbog Izraela Amerika bila spremna da ide u rat, a svi ostali narodi i drzave od Amerike imaju vise stete nego koristi.
molim te,koje izvore informacija si koristio prije donosenja takvog zakljucka :?:
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#2368 Re: Americki predsjednicki izbori

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Ne znam ko od americkih politicara stoji iza izjave da je americki senat pod okupacijom strane sile, tj. Izraela :D Mislim, ne moze se zazmiriti pred cinjenicom da su Jevreji - blago receno - prezastupljeni na politickoj sceni USA s obzirom da je njihov udio u stanovnistvu 2,5%, od cega najveci broj zivi u New Yorku. Kupili su sebi najjacu drzavu na svijetu i normalno je da kroz njene institucije guraju svoje interese.

Nema ljutnje, tu priliku je imao svako a oni su je iskoristili.
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#2369 Re: Americki predsjednicki izbori

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BaileyS wrote:Ne znam ko od americkih politicara stoji iza izjave da je americki senat pod okupacijom strane sile, tj. Izraela :D Mislim, ne moze se zazmiriti pred cinjenicom da su Jevreji - blago receno - prezastupljeni na politickoj sceni USA s obzirom da je njihov udio u stanovnistvu 2,5%, od cega najveci broj zivi u New Yorku. Kupili su sebi najjacu drzavu na svijetu i normalno je da kroz njene institucije guraju svoje interese.

Nema ljutnje, tu priliku je imao svako a oni su je iskoristili.
Ma ni sami Jevreji u SAD nemaju jednako misljenje o Izraelu i Bliskom Istoku. Postoje izrazito uticajne konzervativne, ali i liberalne jevrejske grupe. Ja npr. nisam upoznao nijednog Jevreja koji se slaze sa politikom SAD i Izraela na Bliskom Istoku.
Mozda pokazatelj sta misli javnost o tome, kad je VP kandidat Sarah Palin nedavno u jednom od rijetkih intervjua izjavila kako bi branila Izrael u slucaju napada na njih to niko naravno nije dovodio u pitanje, ali kad je rekla da bi bez polemike prihvatala i slagalala se sa odlukama Izraelaca sto se tice vanjske politike i odnosa prema recimo Iranu osuli su po njoj drvlje i kamenje (mislim na medije).
Varate se ako mislite da obicni Ameri nisu itekako svjesni uticaja Izraela na politiku americke vlade.
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#2370 Re: Americki predsjednicki izbori

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recesija, zahvatila 27 drzava vec :shock: http://www.yahoo.com/
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Ekonomska recesija se koliko sam ja shvatio definise kao dva uzastopna tromjesecja negativnog rasta GDPa.
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McCain ima nekih problema sa facijalnom ekpresijom

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DaysleepeR wrote:McCain ima nekih problema sa facijalnom ekpresijom

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:lol: :lol:

Gdje si ovo nasho' matereti...
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ima adresa na slikama

evo u vecem formatu :D

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#2375 Re: Americki predsjednicki izbori

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Sarajevcac wrote:Apsolutno je svejedno ko ce pobijediti u Americi zato sto je Amerika nepovratno izgubila vodecu ulogu u svijetu.
a ko to ima vodecu ulogu, da nemaju mozda Rusi? :lol: :lol:
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