Egzil 1 wrote:Ovo je više postalo smijurija šta čovjek radi. Nit' plakat' nit' se smijat'.
NW Deir Ezzor.
Reporting the user "Niele~enwiki", who broke 2 rules in 1 day.
2 I added 2 Rebel held villages in NW Deir Ezzor according to a reliable source used for more than 2 years on this map.
2 Edit was reverted.
3 I reverted it because no source was provided to contradict my claims.
4 The user reverts my edit and post a SDF source, which means he is using Kurdish (not pro-Kurdish, but basically Kurdish) sources to justify that.
5 Then, after he did that, he added the village of "Abu Kashab" on the map without providing a source. So basically this is enough for a ban, he is basically playing dumb by saying "I will not use your source" then he uses it, but in a wrong way, reverting me, but doing the same thing in his OPINION.
Now for other editors who will say "Well, I can't be sure if we can use him etc etc". Yes of course we can. Why ? Well if you say we can't use him as a source for this edit, you are basically pushing your own POV for this map, because we added and changed 10 locations in Eastern Qalamoun and used only him a source. But you can't change 2 villages in another province because you don't like it ? That's POV and against the rules. Either change the entire Qalamoun back as it was, or don't revert my edits, very simple. And in both cases, it was only him reporting about that, there were no other sources. END. DuckZz (talk) 00:54, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
DuckZz You source said the rebels(Al Nukhbat brigade) captured 5 locations in Deir ez Zor province(Al Bukman,Mihbash,Abu Kashab,Bir Sahbu and another one village about which source not said.herehere But no one from reliable sources not from the Twitter not support this data but I also think that "Niele~enwiki" was broke a rules as thy use biased pro-SDF/YPG source from Twitter but according to our rules this prohibated(we can't use biased sources for edit). I realy think these villages libirated from ISIS but still not clear who do this rebels or SDF. But we not can't just ignored these data we only need searching other confirmations. Sûriyeya (talk) 09:35, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
But some activist from Twitter(I not indicated that it is a crediable sources) including pro-opp. reported about clashes between SDF and ISIS near village Mihbash(village which was taken rebels according Bosno) but other sources only said about clashes between SDF/YPG and ISIS in this area.herehere So we just need more a crediable data. Sûriyeya (talk) 09:55, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
The first source is unknown to this map, we never used him as a source. The second sources says "Near Minbash", and when u look at geo. maps, there are many unnamed villages near Minbash. For example, source BosnjoSinj talks about a village called "Bukman" but it's not located on any map, cuz it's probably too small. Now either you are ignoring it, or u forgot that I posted a source from the official page from this Rebel groups, and they posted a video statement where they're talking about Abu Kashab village, and they also posted a video showing their advances. Now when you look at the pictures posted by "Bosnjosinj", you can't find them on the official page from the Rebel group, which means this isn't just c/p things, and he also reported this before they posted informations on their page, which also means this can't be invented.
Now, if you still say "Well, still, I think it's not good make the edit only because of him", well then you need to follow the rules and revert all the areas in E.Qalamoun, total of 15 locations (except Tanf) which we edited just because of his reports, and there were no other reports, not from SOHR or other Rebel pages. I think this is more than clear. I will change Abu Kashab back as it was, but I will let's say put the Mishab village to joint control, this is I think the best option. DuckZz (talk) 16:13, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
DuckZz Ok in this issue I agree with you. Do it! Sûriyeya (talk) 16:32, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Može li kakav sažetak ovog.. razumljiv..
