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#22601 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Gdje je vela da najavi i više nego realnu pobjedu Borusije od 16:0 :D
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#22602 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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James nam je upitan, tj. njegov ostanak. Rekao je da mu Bayern odgovara i slično, no ne djeluje tako van terena. Igrač koji voli medijsku pozornost, prate ga milioni na twitteru i ostalim društvenim mrežama, a Minhen kao Minhen, miran, tih. Ima svakako kvalitet za Bayern, no da bude nosilac igre, ne.

Baš me zanima šta će s njim.

Zanimljivo, barem za mene je Tolisso, super statistika, ali kod Yuppa u drugom planu. Naravno, Yupp je vidio ono što smo svi mi ovdje već znali, da je odličan back - up igrač, ali nikako za prvih 11. 41.5 milion eura za klupe, srećom Uli je tu da reguliše situaciju.
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#22603 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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SA NAMA ĐE ĆE KO?! NEMOJTE IH VIŠE....
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#22604 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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steta sto nije dvocifreno :izet:
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#22605 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Treba se uozbiljiti protiv Seville. Ovo danas je bio protivnik na nivou druge lige. Trener bvba je uzasan. Sramota
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#22606 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Bayern povukao opciju kupovine Hamesa :thumbup:
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#22607 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Mogao bi thiago otici :mrgreen:

Peta sreca protiv spanskih timova.
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#22608 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Ma dobar je Hame, samo treba malo manje instagrama, izlazaka, ovo-ono. Da hoce malo vise radit' i bit' profesionalan, on bi bio medju top 5 najboljih igraca svijeta.
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#22609 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Tito_i_Partija wrote:Ma dobar je Hame, samo treba malo manje instagrama, izlazaka, ovo-ono. Da hoce malo vise radit' i bit' profesionalan, on bi bio medju top 5 najboljih igraca svijeta.
Poznavanje rukovođenja Instagramom je garant uspjeha kod fudbalera, potvrđeno :oops:
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#22610 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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kako je sve krenulo, uskoro ce se i broj followera koristiti kao argument za dizanje cijene igracu :-D
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#22611 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Naravno sve nagrade Ronalda i Messia su opravdani. Nije da nije bilo sezona kada je Sneijder izdominirao ili Ribery u sezoni kada je razvaljena Barca.

Naravno, glavna nagrada, onako zasluzena je otisla u druge ruke. Samo marketing.
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#22612 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Kolike su ozbiljne ove priče za da će Kovač preuzeti Bayern? Meni se to nikako ne sviđa.
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#22613 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Nece dati Uli da Bayern vodi neko drugi van Njemacke ili njemackih pokrajina Austrije i Svicarske :thumbup:
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#22614 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Ma Kovač bi bio veći promašaj od Ancelottija. Totalno defanzivan trener, nisu ludi.
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#22615 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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pizarro wrote:kako je sve krenulo, uskoro ce se i broj followera koristiti kao argument za dizanje cijene igracu :-D
Pa ja sam siguran da je ovo vec sada faktor. Postoje igraci koji bukvalno imaju tim ljudi iza sebe koji se bave iskljucivo drustvenim mrezama. Christiano Ronalno je snimao neku reklamu cini mi se za arapsku kompaniju i kao dio ugovora je stajalo dva posta na drustvenim mrezama. Ovo je sve jako bitno za sponzore, a sponzori cesto diktiraju transfer nekog igraca.
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#22616 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Zašto ne bi bilo bitno ako se zna da se dio cijene koja se plati za igrača vraća upravo kroz prodaju dresova. Dakle, veća baza fanova -> jeftiniji igrač.
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#22617 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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0-3 večeras
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#22618 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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ExNihilo wrote:Zašto ne bi bilo bitno ako se zna da se dio cijene koja se plati za igrača vraća upravo kroz prodaju dresova. Dakle, veća baza fanova -> jeftiniji igrač.
Vecina ljudi misli da se igrac "isplati" kroz prodaju dresova, no ovo jednostavno nije tacno. Imas kamaru clanaka koji demantiraju taj mit, a evo izdvojicu ti jedan od boljih. Definitivno vrijedi procitati.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/th ... rket-myths
Shirt sales alone do not pay for a superstar’s transfer fee

No club has ever directly recouped a player’s transfer fee through shirt sales. Adidas, Nike, Puma and other kit suppliers get 85-90% of shirt sale revenue and this is the industry standard. While there are some exceptions – a club such as Bayern Munich, which is part-owned by Adidas, may be given a slightly more favourable revenue share, and generally, once a certain (very large) number of shirts are sold, the revenue split on additional sales will skew more favourably to the club – these are the exceptions to the general rule.

As an example, Manchester United have a 10-year kit deal with Adidas worth £750m. This is one of the largest kit deals in football and easily the largest in the Premier League. However, the primary reason Adidas is paying Manchester United £75m per year is not simply to have a klix logo emblazoned on United’s kit and use the club for marketing purposes. Of course, being associated with one of the few truly global clubs in football helps them capture market share in emerging markets and further solidify its presence in existing markets. But for the supplier, kit deals are licensing deals, and that’s where the real value lies to Adidas.

For any cynical readers who may not be so inclined to take our word for it – after all, it is a popular myth – just look at how United and Adidas announced the deal in July 2014, where the partnership is described, quite clearly, as a licensing package. In fact, Adidas CEO Herbert Hainer triumphed the deal as a “collaboration [that] marks a milestone for us when it comes to merchandising potential. We expect total sales to reach £1.5bn during the duration of our partnership.”

Despite the nonsense you may have heard about Zlatan Ibrahimovic shirt sales generating £50m for Manchester United, which would far exceed his wages, it’s simply not true. In fact, United don’t even automatically receive the 10-15% industry-standard royalty payment, no doubt because the up-front £75m annual payment is so large. United’s royalty payment only kicks in once a certain number of shirts are sold.

Just under three million Manchester United shirts were sold last season. As a case in point, let’s assume that Ibrahimovic helps sell an additional 300,000 shirts. A 10% increase is a very optimistic projection, especially considering Ibrahimovic is a Nike athlete and won’t be engaging in any Adidas promotional activities on his own. His image rights deal with United will almost certainly allow the club to feature him in Adidas promotional activities, as long as he appears with at least two other United players and the activity does not imply that Ibrahimovic is giving a personal endorsement to Adidas.

Additionally, while many United fans may choose to buy an Ibrahmovic shirt, over, say, a Chris Smalling shirt, a lot of those fans were already going to buy a shirt in the first place.

Let’s also assume that United’s royalty kicks in after three million shirts are sold, and the club receive a 15% royalty on each subsequent shirt sold. Assuming a price of £70 per shirt, that’s an additional £21m in gross sales from 300,000 shirts. Manchester United’s cut of that would be just over £3m. Now, £3m is not an insignificant amount, but it offsets less than 20% of what Ibrahimovic will likely cost the club this season (wages, agent fee, signing bonus, image rights deal).

So, at best, United are likely to see around £3m in additional revenue. While certainly not a paltry sum, it doesn’t come close to covering his costs, let alone help United earn an additional £50m. Put simply, there’s a reason why Adidas has earned more in the last six months than Manchester United, one of the highest-earning football clubs in the world, has earned in its 138-year existence.
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#22619 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Dobro, zarada od prodaje dresova vjerovatno nije nikada takva da može kompenzirati transfer u cjelosti, kao što lijepo pojašnjava link koji si zalijepio, ali još uvijek će veća popularnost igrača značiti veću zaradu od prodaje dresova.

Uostalom, nisu tu samo dresovi, potražnja za raznoraznim sportskim rekvizitima se povećava onda kada je na njima ime/lik/potpis igrača sa velikom bazom fanova, a isto vrijedi i za prodaju ulaznica. Tako da mislim kako princip generalno vrijedi: velika i vjerna baza fanova igrača vraća dio cijene plaćene za istog. Odnosno, predstavljao svojevrstan discount na cijenu, kako ranije rekoh.
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#22620 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Da, ali to su doslovno mrvice kad se gleda na velicinu iznosa transfera, koji rastu iz godine u godinu. Ako to gledamo iz aspekta mega-transfera danasnjice, znaci 120 miliona plus (Pogba, Coutinho, Dembele, Neymar, etc), taj novac od prodaje dresova je toliko miniskulan da uopste nije vrijedan spomena.
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#22621 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Primjer Manchestera i Pogbe po meni odlicno pokazuje kako sponzori mogu uticati da se ostvari neki transfer. Postoji odredjeni trend u svjetskom fudbalu u kojem se predvidja da ce top proizvodjaci opreme sponzorisati manji broj klubova, ali ce izdvajati velike iznose da budu dobavljaci opreme top klubova.
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#22622 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Da, i onda ce klubovi dobijati jos manje od prodaje dresova nego sto sad dobijaju. Jer ce u principu sponzori postati co-finansijeri velikih transfera.
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#22623 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Smijesni smo.
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#22624 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Koji im je klinac nmg dva pasa svezat.

Vise me strah odbrane nego Seville.
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#22625 Re: FC Bayern Munchen

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Losa igra.
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