Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
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#2226 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
Kriterij kolega, kriterij... Na čemu si ocjenjivao ispitanike 
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#2227 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
Šta to nisu znali?
Što bih miješala i zašto bih kog đavola mijenjala dotok plina? Nije mi dovoljno što moram paziti da hajvan ne pokipi.PapakizSarajeva wrote: E ubode ga ti pravo ...
Mjesas li mlijeko kad ga grijes ? Da znamo hocemo li razmatrati prirodnu ili prinudnu konvekciju. Mozemo ti o ovom problemu napisati citavu doktorsku disertaciju, pogotovo ako pojacavas i smanjujes dotok plina pa da problem posmatramo kao nestacionaran.
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#2230 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
Naletih na ovo nekidan pa rekoh da postavim ovdje 
You want a physicist to speak at your funeral. You want the physicist to talk to your grieving family about the conservation of energy, so they will understand that your energy has not died. You want the physicist to remind your sobbing mother about the first law of thermodynamics; that no energy gets created in the universe, and none is destroyed. You want your mother to know that all your energy, every vibration, every Btu of heat, every wave of every particle that was her beloved child remains with her in this world. You want the physicist to tell your weeping father that amid energies of the cosmos, you gave as good as you got.
And at one point you'd hope that the physicist would step down from the pulpit and walk to your brokenhearted spouse there in the pew and tell him/her that all the photons that ever bounced off your face, all the particles whose paths were interrupted by your smile, by the touch of your hair, hundreds of trillions of particles, have raced off like children, their ways forever changed by you. And as your widow rocks in the arms of a loving family, may the physicist let him/her know that all the photons that bounced from you were gathered in the particle detectors that are her/his eyes, that those photons created within her/him constellations of electromagnetically charged neurons whose energy will go on forever.
And the physicist will remind the congregation of how much of all our energy is given off as heat. There may be a few fanning themselves with their programs as he says it. And he will tell them that the warmth that flowed through you in life is still here, still part of all that we are, even as we who mourn continue the heat of our own lives.
And you'll want the physicist to explain to those who loved you that they need not have faith; indeed, they should not have faith. Let them know that they can measure, that scientists have measured precisely the conservation of energy and found it accurate, verifiable and consistent across space and time. You can hope your family will examine the evidence and satisfy themselves that the science is sound and that they'll be comforted to know your energy's still around. According to the law of the conservation of energy, not a bit of you is gone; you're just less orderly.
Amen.
Aaron Freeman
You want a physicist to speak at your funeral. You want the physicist to talk to your grieving family about the conservation of energy, so they will understand that your energy has not died. You want the physicist to remind your sobbing mother about the first law of thermodynamics; that no energy gets created in the universe, and none is destroyed. You want your mother to know that all your energy, every vibration, every Btu of heat, every wave of every particle that was her beloved child remains with her in this world. You want the physicist to tell your weeping father that amid energies of the cosmos, you gave as good as you got.
And at one point you'd hope that the physicist would step down from the pulpit and walk to your brokenhearted spouse there in the pew and tell him/her that all the photons that ever bounced off your face, all the particles whose paths were interrupted by your smile, by the touch of your hair, hundreds of trillions of particles, have raced off like children, their ways forever changed by you. And as your widow rocks in the arms of a loving family, may the physicist let him/her know that all the photons that bounced from you were gathered in the particle detectors that are her/his eyes, that those photons created within her/him constellations of electromagnetically charged neurons whose energy will go on forever.
And the physicist will remind the congregation of how much of all our energy is given off as heat. There may be a few fanning themselves with their programs as he says it. And he will tell them that the warmth that flowed through you in life is still here, still part of all that we are, even as we who mourn continue the heat of our own lives.
And you'll want the physicist to explain to those who loved you that they need not have faith; indeed, they should not have faith. Let them know that they can measure, that scientists have measured precisely the conservation of energy and found it accurate, verifiable and consistent across space and time. You can hope your family will examine the evidence and satisfy themselves that the science is sound and that they'll be comforted to know your energy's still around. According to the law of the conservation of energy, not a bit of you is gone; you're just less orderly.
Amen.
Aaron Freeman
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#2231 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
najzanimljiviji mi je bio dokaz broja pi na tamo ja mislim trecoj7cetvrtoj godini nisam siguran 39 stranaMr. Brightside wrote:![]()
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#2232 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
Ostade ti nama dužan nešto - alternativni te pitao za imena (ja neću, nomina sunt odiosa), a ja sam pitao za kriterij po kom sudiš asistentima.matematicar_teski wrote: najzanimljiviji mi je bio dokaz broja pi na tamo ja mislim trecoj7cetvrtoj godini nisam siguran 39 strana
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#2233 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
01 apr 2012, 08:32 Isključen/a korisnik/ca iz razloga “poricanje matematičkih istina”Mr. Brightside wrote:![]()
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#2234 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
Pozdrav,
Molio bih nekog ko ima vremena da mi riješi postepeno ovaj integral, hvala.

Molio bih nekog ko ima vremena da mi riješi postepeno ovaj integral, hvala.

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#2235 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
Može li smjena t=x^{1/6}?
Pod integralom ostaje 6(t³-1)³/t³ dt, razviješ brojnik i sve što ostane su tablični integrali po t. Riješiš i vratiš smjenu. Konačni rezultat bi bio 6/7 x^{7/6} - 9/2 x^{2/3} + 18 x^{1/6} + 3 x^{-1/3} + C.
Pod integralom ostaje 6(t³-1)³/t³ dt, razviješ brojnik i sve što ostane su tablični integrali po t. Riješiš i vratiš smjenu. Konačni rezultat bi bio 6/7 x^{7/6} - 9/2 x^{2/3} + 18 x^{1/6} + 3 x^{-1/3} + C.
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#2236 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
moze li mi neko pojasniti sta znaci
...slucajna varijabla uniformno rasopdjeljena na intervalu...

...slucajna varijabla uniformno rasopdjeljena na intervalu...
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#2237 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
Uniformna raspodjela na intervalu (a,b) je najjednostavnija distribucija: gustina joj je 1/(b-a) za x iz tog intervala, a van intervala nula. U praktičnom smislu to znači da je svaki izbor istog broja tačaka podjednako vjerovatan.
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#2238 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
hvala
odoh da preradim jos zadataka pa ako gdje zapnem znam koga da pitam
odoh da preradim jos zadataka pa ako gdje zapnem znam koga da pitam
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#2240 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
Događa se
Podsjeti me na zgodan zadatak koji sam nedavno vidio:
Jedna kamera na autoputu je snimila vozača u 12:00, a druga kamera - udaljena 250 km niz cestu je snimila istog vozača u 14:00. Na to je policajac vozaču poslao kaznu na kojoj je napisano da je vozio 125 km/h.
Čovjek je došao na sud i rekao policajcu - Vi ne možete dokazati da sam u nekom trenutku vozio tačno 125 km/h.
Može li to policajac dokazati?
Podsjeti me na zgodan zadatak koji sam nedavno vidio:
Jedna kamera na autoputu je snimila vozača u 12:00, a druga kamera - udaljena 250 km niz cestu je snimila istog vozača u 14:00. Na to je policajac vozaču poslao kaznu na kojoj je napisano da je vozio 125 km/h.
Čovjek je došao na sud i rekao policajcu - Vi ne možete dokazati da sam u nekom trenutku vozio tačno 125 km/h.
Može li to policajac dokazati?
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#2241 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
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#2242 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
pa valjda je morao voziti 125 na sat da bi uspio preći 250 km za 2 sata? kako misliš u nekom trenutku?nellington wrote:Događa se![]()
Podsjeti me na zgodan zadatak koji sam nedavno vidio:
Jedna kamera na autoputu je snimila vozača u 12:00, a druga kamera - udaljena 250 km niz cestu je snimila istog vozača u 14:00. Na to je policajac vozaču poslao kaznu na kojoj je napisano da je vozio 125 km/h.
Čovjek je došao na sud i rekao policajcu - Vi ne možete dokazati da sam u nekom trenutku vozio tačno 125 km/h.
Može li to policajac dokazati?
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#2243 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
Pa možda je vozio 130 pola puta, pa 120 drugih pola... Pojmovi srednje i trenutne brzine
Intuitivno je jasno da je dotični vozio sigurno nekad 125 km/h, ali daj prihvatljiv i matematički strog dokaz na nivou prvog semestra fakultetske matematike 
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#2244 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
ne moze (:Može li to policajac dokazati?
policajac nije imao niti jedan semestar fakultetske matematike d:
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#2245 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
Ko kažeclarKKent wrote:ne moze (:Može li to policajac dokazati?
policajac nije imao niti jedan semestar fakultetske matematike d:

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#2246 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
Pretpostavimo suprotno...nellington wrote:Pa možda je vozio 130 pola puta, pa 120 drugih pola... Pojmovi srednje i trenutne brzineIntuitivno je jasno da je dotični vozio sigurno nekad 125 km/h, ali daj prihvatljiv i matematički strog dokaz na nivou prvog semestra fakultetske matematike
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#2247 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
Keep going...zlaataan wrote:Pretpostavimo suprotno...nellington wrote:Pa možda je vozio 130 pola puta, pa 120 drugih pola... Pojmovi srednje i trenutne brzineIntuitivno je jasno da je dotični vozio sigurno nekad 125 km/h, ali daj prihvatljiv i matematički strog dokaz na nivou prvog semestra fakultetske matematike
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#2248 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
ahaaa, pa što odmah ne kažeš tako.nellington wrote:Pa možda je vozio 130 pola puta, pa 120 drugih pola... Pojmovi srednje i trenutne brzineIntuitivno je jasno da je dotični vozio sigurno nekad 125 km/h, ali daj prihvatljiv i matematički strog dokaz na nivou prvog semestra fakultetske matematike
dobro, sačekat ću odgovor.
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#2250 Re: Kutak za ljubitelje matematike
Tj, neka se kretao u svakom momentu brzinom ispod 125 km/h i nek je pritom prešao tih 250 km u 2 h.nellington wrote:Keep going...zlaataan wrote:Pretpostavimo suprotno...nellington wrote:Pa možda je vozio 130 pola puta, pa 120 drugih pola... Pojmovi srednje i trenutne brzineIntuitivno je jasno da je dotični vozio sigurno nekad 125 km/h, ali daj prihvatljiv i matematički strog dokaz na nivou prvog semestra fakultetske matematike
v=ds/dt => s= integral od 0 do 2h (vdt).
Ako je u svakom momentu v < 125km/h, pa slijedi s = integral od 0 do 2h (vdt) < integral od 0 do 2h (125 km/h * dt) = 125 km/h * integral od 0 do 2h (dt) = 125 km/h * (2h - 0) = 250 km
Dakle s < 250 km, što je kontradikcija s pretpostavkom da je prešao 250 km.
Dakle, postojao je bar jedan moment kad je imao brzinu veću ili jednaku 250 km. q.e.d.

