Ukrajina

[sumirprimus]

pa i karadzic je izabran slobodno i demokratski,i slobo,dobro bilo je malo stimunga jelte,pa ih to ne cini demokratama...
nije demokratija samo popunjavanje glasackog listica na dan izbora...al dzabe ja to jelte...

[Martinez_]

pa i karadzic je izabran slobodno i demokratski,i slobo,dobro bilo je malo stimunga jelte,pa ih to ne cini demokratama...
nije demokratija samo popunjavanje glasackog listica na dan izbora...al dzabe ja to jelte...

Da, Janukovič je biće progonio Poljake i Tatare je li?

Verovao ti ili ne, definicija demokratije je upravo to - volja naroda. Naravno, vi koji pušite CNN propagandu verujete da je demokratija = izbor po volji Amerike.

[sumirprimus]

pa i karadzic je izabran slobodno i demokratski,i slobo,dobro bilo je malo stimunga jelte,pa ih to ne cini demokratama...
nije demokratija samo popunjavanje glasackog listica na dan izbora...al dzabe ja to jelte...

Da, Janukovič je biće progonio Poljake i Tatare je li?

Verovao ti ili ne, definicija demokratije je upravo to - volja naroda. Naravno, vi koji pušite CNN propagandu verujete da je demokratija = izbor po volji Amerike.

jaro ja pusim,laki strajk!s.predizborna ko ce znat,reko mante se upaljaca,i olovaka,samo cigarustine il ne prilazite...

[sumirprimus]

rekli su kad nestane lakija ide mali boro...

[arman1]

[pici]

Tko se boji interneta?

U Rusiji je stupio na snagu zakon prema kojem se popularni blogeri moraju službeno registrirati. Aktivisti za ljudska prava i kritičari Kremlja u ovoj odredbi vide jasan napad na slobodu mišljenja.

"Ali zakon o blogerima nije prvi korak u ovom pravcu. A sigurno neće biti niti posljednji", upozorava Marina Lipman. Stvari ne stoje dobro za slobodu riječi i pisma u Rusiji. Jedan zanimljivi podatak: od 2016. godine Rusi će svoje osobne podatke moći spremati još samo na ruskim serverima.

[pici]

25.09.2014. | 13:00
Ovo je cena koju Rusija već plaća
Izvor: Tanjug

Moskva -- Ukupan udarac na platni bilans Rusije zbog sniženja cena nafte i uticaja geopolitičkih događaja procenjuje se na četiri odsto bruto domaćeg proizvoda.


To je izjavio direktor odeljenja dugoročnog strateškog planiranja ministarstva finansija Maksim Oreškin na godišnjoj konferenciji agencije Fič i ukazao da se uticaj geopolitike može oceniti sa dva odsto BDP-a.

Drugi udarac ruskom BDP je nanelo sniženje cene nafte Urals sa prosečno 110 dolara za barel u drugom tromesečju, na 93 dolara koliko je trenutno. Sniženje cene za 17 dolara za barel znači sniženje prihoda od izvoza za 55 milijardi dolara na godišnjem nivou, precizirao je Oreškin.

Pri tome, on smatra da je reakcija privrede na snažne spoljašnje šokove bilo prilično meka. U isto vreme, ako bi cena nafte pri formiranju budžeta bila ustanovljena na 80 dolara za berel, ruska ekonomija, prema rečima Oreškina, "ne bi ni osetila udarce".

Govoreći o sniženju cene nafte na svetskom tržištu, Oreškin je primetio, da se sadašnja situacija razlikuje od situacije 2008-2009. godine. Tada je pad cena bio cikličan, u vezi sa padom tražnje, a sada je strukturni, u vezi sa rastom proizvodnje nafte, kao i uspostavljanjem proizvodnje u Libiji.

"Malo je verovatno da ćemo videti oštar pad cena, ali je isto tako malo verovatno da ćemo videti i snažan rast. Najverovatnije je da će doći do stabilizacije u regionu na 90 dolara za barel", zaključio je Oreškin.

davnijeH dana je ustanovljeno da bi cijena ispod 80 dolara po barelu rusiju bacilo na koljena i lagano nabijanje liliputanka u dupe...

[UnscarD]

hahahahahaha kakav kralj ....vrati mi olovku hahahhaa

[pici]

hahahahahaha kakav kralj ....vrati mi olovku hahahhaa

ima on i dobrih momenata al su se svi sasrali u gače

[General War]

hahahahahaha kakav kralj ....vrati mi olovku hahahhaa

ima on i dobrih momenata al su se svi sasrali u gače

Atek ovaj

[Cyrax]

Putin ko Tale

[5 0 5]

Russia orders Google, Facebook and Twitter to comply with local storage and censorship laws

[pici]

Russia orders Google, Facebook and Twitter to comply with local storage and censorship laws

pa i bilo je za ocekivati, najave su se obistinile...sad jos kad zirante poklope banke, ima gofana da ispliva ko salate...






tHovaris gazda, bil mi biti zirant za vikendicu i camac na krimu...

[Kaligula I]

Ruska aktivistica boraca za prava Jelena Wassiljewa (njena fejsbuk stranica https://www.facebook.com/people/Елен...72;/1686617069), koja je na maršu mira bila u prvom redu, je izdala obavijesti o mladim mrtvim ruskim vojnicima koji su poginuli u Ukrajini. Njenu vijest su svi petokolonaski ruski i ukrajinski mediji prenijeli.
Međutim sva imena navodno poginulih ruskih mladih vojnika su zapravo fudbaleri kluba Gazovik iz Orenburga (kod kazahstanske granice). Svi su zivi i bave se sportom tj. fudbalom.

...evo očitog primjera da ima jos onih koji se iznenade kad shvate kako su poginuli u Ukrajini:
http://itar-tass.com/spb-news/1429009

...dakle, kopaju i nogama i rukama da demoniziraju Rusiju i njenu ulogu u ukrajinskom građanskom ratu...jasno je da iza ovoga stoje NVO, a koje sponzoriraju Otvoreno društvo zaklade Soroš i drugi sponzori sa Zapada...naravno, napad je najbolja odbrana...drž'te lopova, a lopov u njegovim opancima...

[romeomoraprezivjeti]

Opusti se kaligula,nemoj da ti ova tema bude stres,hebo ruse.

[General War]

Ruska aktivistica boraca za prava Jelena Wassiljewa (njena fejsbuk stranica https://www.facebook.com/people/Елен...72;/1686617069), koja je na maršu mira bila u prvom redu, je izdala obavijesti o mladim mrtvim ruskim vojnicima koji su poginuli u Ukrajini. Njenu vijest su svi petokolonaski ruski i ukrajinski mediji prenijeli.
Međutim sva imena navodno poginulih ruskih mladih vojnika su zapravo fudbaleri kluba Gazovik iz Orenburga (kod kazahstanske granice). Svi su zivi i bave se sportom tj. fudbalom.

...evo očitog primjera da ima jos onih koji se iznenade kad shvate kako su poginuli u Ukrajini:
http://itar-tass.com/spb-news/1429009

...dakle, kopaju i nogama i rukama da demoniziraju Rusiju i njenu ulogu u ukrajinskom građanskom ratu...jasno je da iza ovoga stoje NVO, a koje sponzoriraju Otvoreno društvo zaklade Soroš i drugi sponzori sa Zapada...naravno, napad je najbolja odbrana...drž'te lopova, a lopov u njegovim opancima...

Ja-ja..puno nesto lopova


Crowds chanting slogans including "No to war" and "Stop lying!" and brandishing Russian as well as Ukrainian flags marched from Pushkin Square to Sakharov Boulevard in central Moscow. Other placards read "The junta is in the Kremlin, not Kyiv," which referred to Russia's dispute that the ousting of Ukraine's former Russia-friendly president Victor Yanukovych was a coup.
Similar rallies chanting, "Ukraine, we are with you!" also took place in St. Petersburg and other Russian cities.

[Captain Ahab]

I pored potpisanog primiriju i pregovora koji se nastavljaju, na terenu je sve zesce, narocitio oko aerodroma u Donjecku i Debalceva koje (Novo)rusi uporno pokusavaju da zauzmu.

Aerodrom Donjeck - Ukrajinska perspektiva


Ruska perspektiva

[Captain Ahab]

EU: sankcije protiv Rusije ostaju na snazi

EU to keep Russia sanctions in place over Ukraine
The EU has decided to keep sanctions on Russia in place, judging that Ukraine's peace deal is not fully effective.

EU ambassadors who met on Tuesday had noted some "encouraging developments" since the 5 September ceasefire was agreed, an EU spokeswoman said.

But other parts of the peace deal "will need to be properly implemented", said the spokeswoman, Maja Kocijancic.

Sanctions target senior Russian officials, as well as Russia's oil industry, defence firms and banks.

Western governments and the Ukrainian authorities in Kiev accuse Russia of supplying the separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine with heavy weapons and soldiers.

Russia denies the allegations. EU and US sanctions have been in place since Russia's annexation of Crimea in March.

At least 3,200 people have died in fighting since April in Ukraine's Donetsk and Luhansk regions, and thousands of civilians have fled the conflict.

More heavy shelling was reported on Tuesday in the Donetsk airport area.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29429602

[Captain Ahab]

Dobar pregled situacije na aerodromu Donjeck (video snimci, karte sa rasporedom snaga, geolokacije).

http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.nl/2014/09 ... rport.html

[Captain Ahab]

u ovoj Ukrajini sve veća rokačina, dere guzove

u Harkovu, uvlicama grada patrolira nacionalna garda. svi stupovi ukrašeni ukrajinskim zastavama, ovaj grad je pod čvrstom upravom i kontrolom Ukrajinskih vlasti, čini se da ruski teroristi ovdje nemaju nikakve šanse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8iVE2C ... g4FKqhDEwQ

U Harkovu je inace zadnjih dana bio aktuelan 'Lenjinopad'



Harkov je dosta podijeljen grad, ali su ipak Ukrajinci u vecini tako da mislim da se tamo nece ponoviti scenarij iz Donjecka i Luhanska.

[Captain Ahab]

EU odbija ruske zahtjeve za izmjenama sporazuma o asocijaciji Ukrajine i EU potpisanog proslog mjeseca.

EU slaps down Putin bid to revise Ukraine trade deal
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The EU has delivered a sharp personal rebuff to Russian President Vladimir Putin, flatly rejecting his attempts to revise Brussels’ landmark trade accord with Ukraine.
The so-called Association Agreement between the EU and Kiev has sparked outrage in Moscow and has been one of the underlying causes of this year’s conflict in Ukraine. Russia regards the accord as the EU’s main weapon in a bid to wrench Kiev out of Moscow’s sphere of economic and political influence.

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Shortly after the deal was ratified last month, Mr Putin insisted that it should be reopened and that “a package of amendments” should be introduced.
But in a letter of response to Mr Putin released on Wednesday, José Manuel Barroso, president of the European Commission, retorted that the accord with Ukraine was a “bilateral agreement”, in which Russia could not interfere. “Any adaptations to it can only be made at the request of one of the parties and with the agreement of the other,” Mr Barroso wrote.
Mr Barroso also said that he had “strong concerns” about a Russian decree that proposed trade barriers on Ukraine if the deal were implemented.
...

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/473da4ec ... z3Eu18qTbO

http://www.praguepost.com/eu-news/41848 ... r-to-putin

Dok ruski mediji tome daju malo drugaciji spin:

EU ready to continue talks on effects of association pact with Ukraine — Barroso
...

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/752220

[Captain Ahab]

Nastavljaju se ruski napadi na aerodrom u Donjecku

Fighting intensifies in Ukraine as pro-Russian rebels move in on Donetsk airport
MOSCOW — Fighting intensified in eastern Ukraine on Wednesday despite a fragile cease-fire, as pro-Russian rebels appeared to be close to capturing the strategically important Donetsk airport.

The fighting was some of the worst since a Sept. 5 cease-fire calmed the conflict, although shelling and casualties have continued throughout the nearly four weeks since the agreement was reached. Ukraine’s military and rebel forces said the fighting had gotten worse Wednesday, as rebels vowed to retake a strategically important landmark that has remained in government hands for almost all of the six-month-long conflict.

If rebels succeed in taking over the airport, they will have gained an important new facility to bring in supplies to their war-torn territory as they seek to build a new state in Ukraine’s southeast. The cease-fire hands over effective control of the territory to the rebels without granting them independence. For the government in Kiev, losing the airport would be a major symbolic defeat after they sustained heavy losses in a battle in late May to keep it under their control.

Donetsk city government officials said Wednesday that residents are contending with an “extremely difficult situation” and that the part of the city closest to the airport had undergone a “massive bombardment.” At least six civilians were killed when a shell hit a minibus, and a shell also hit the grounds of a school that was in session, shattering windows and injuring six adults, the city authorities said. A reporter for the Associated Press who visited the school said he saw three dead people there.

The Ukrainian military denied that it had fired at the school or the bus. It said that its forces had come under fire at the airport Wednesday from tanks and Grad multiple-rocket launchers. Wednesday was the first day back at school for students in rebel-held territories.

Despite the continued fighting and the ongoing deaths of civilians and soldiers, both sides have been reluctant to declare the cease-fire over, and there were no immediate signs Wednesday that either side planned to abandon the political terms of the peace deal reached in Minsk, Belarus, which call for prisoner exchanges and more autonomy for the territories under rebel control.

But major requirements of the deal remain unfulfilled, including, a top U.S. diplomat said Wednesday, that foreign fighters leave the battlefield.
...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/fig ... story.html

[parangal_]

jel se iko još pita kako to da se igrala utakmica lige šampiona u donjecku kao da je sve normalno i nema rata?

[Lincoln-Burrows]

jel se iko još pita kako to da se igrala utakmica lige šampiona u donjecku kao da je sve normalno i nema rata?

Kad se igrala utakmica u Donjecku?

[Captain Ahab]

jel se iko još pita kako to da se igrala utakmica lige šampiona u donjecku kao da je sve normalno i nema rata?

Igralo se u Lavovu, na drugom kraju Ukrajine, gdje igraju sve domace utakmice.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29414222