Renta wrote:General War wrote:
Renta
NATO i UN nemaju politicki nikakve veze jedno sa drugim.
UN nema napadnu ulogu-mandat, NATO ima. (ne treba mu saglasnost UNa)
NATO moze koristiti UN mandat (rezoluciju), ali UN ne moze koristiti NATO bez saglasnosti clanica NATOa.
Ako se dodje do politicke uloge da je Rusija agresor..Rusija krsi jednu od glavnih povelja UNa i moze biti iskljucena iz rada UNa ili jos gore mogu se SAD i druge clanice povuci iz UNa ukoliko recimo Kina ili neka druga stalna clanica uloze veto...znaci rezultat moze biti UN kaput...znaci ima jako puno rizicnih globalnih stvari koje se mogu desiti...zato se i oklijeva u postavljanju tog pitanja, mada je to ocigledno i jasno.
Za sve (pametno) treba vrijeme za pripremu...tako i za status i ulogu rusije...ali i za reakciju zapada.
To što pretpostavljaš da sam ja mislio nisam ni mislio ni napisao. Bolje me čitaj.
U ostalom, se sa svime slažem.
Pošteno
Spiking about dat:
Ukraine crisis: US senators urge arms 'to fight Russia'
Leading American senators have called for the US to send weapons to help Ukraine fight what they say is "a Russian invasion".
Robert Menendez, head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said Russia's President Vladimir Putin must face a cost for his "aggression".
Senator John McCain said: "This is not an incursion. This is an invasion."
Earlier, Mr Putin called for talks to discuss the matter of "statehood" for eastern Ukraine.
The conflict in eastern Ukraine erupted in April following Russia's annexation of Ukraine's southern Crimea peninsula a month before. Some 2,600 people have died since April.
Pro-Russian separatists have been gaining ground on Ukrainian forces in recent days, in both the Luhansk and Donetsk regions, and further south around the port of Mariupol.
'On the table'
Speaking on CNN, Mr Menendez, a Democrat, said: "We should provide the Ukrainians with the type of defensive weapons that will impose a cost upon Putin for further aggression.
"This is no longer the question of some rebel separatists, this is a direct invasion by Russia. We must recognise it as that."
He said the issue "may very well be on the table right now" for President Barack Obama.
Senator McCain told CBS's Face the Nation that Mr Putin was "an old KGB colonel that wants to restore the Russian empire".
Mr McCain called for "strong sanctions", before adding that Ukraine must be supplied with weapons: "Give them the weapons they need. Give them the wherewithal they need. Give them the ability to fight."
Representative Mike Rogers, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, told Fox News: "If we don't provide 'small and effective' now, you're going to get very big and very ugly later."
. Prva mapa je kijevska, druga proruska pa izaberi:
...kad ne budes radio na skeli do kasno, eto pitaj nekog Njemca ko ih izgradi?
