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#2001 Re: Manchester United FC

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Ponudili prema nekim navodima 21 milijun funti za Jonesa.
Mislim da je to dio igre između Kennya i Fergusona i uživam u tom. Još mu Kenny nije zaboravio Roya Keanea izgleda :-D Koliko će samo bogatija biti naredna sezona radi odmjeravanja oce dvojice, ma neprocjenjivo, to je to, to je pravi rivalitet i pravi suparnici.
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#2002 Re: Manchester United FC

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Ofsajd :roll: Loša tekma do bola... čudno da ne prenosi ES, SK niti Arena ovo prvenstvo :-?
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#2003 Re: Manchester United FC

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ultima_palabra wrote:Ofsajd :roll: Loša tekma do bola... čudno da ne prenosi ES, SK niti Arena ovo prvenstvo :-?
a nisi vidio da španci dadoše gol rukom :D
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#2004 Re: Manchester United FC

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vaučer wrote:Ponudili prema nekim navodima 21 milijun funti za Jonesa.
Mislim da je to dio igre između Kennya i Fergusona i uživam u tom. Još mu Kenny nije zaboravio Roya Keanea izgleda :-D Koliko će samo bogatija biti naredna sezona radi odmjeravanja oce dvojice, ma neprocjenjivo, to je to, to je pravi rivalitet i pravi suparnici.
kad već spominješ taj legendarni sukob škota evo i prigodnog teksta
“Keane is the hottest prospect in football right now,” Brian Clough said of Roy in his last season at Nottingham Forest. Jack Walker was trying to buy Blackburn success, something he would later go on to achieve, and Kenny Dalglish identified Keane as the man to take the club forward in 1993. Initially speaking to the player whilst under contract and behind the back of his club, Blackburn beat off interest from Arsenal, and went on to have a bid of £4m accepted.

It was Friday afternoon, Dalglish wanted the paperwork on the deal to go through, but there was no one still around in the Ewood Park offices so Keane couldn’t sign. No big deal, thought the Scot, it will wait until Monday.

However, Sir Alex Ferguson had just helped Manchester United win their first title in 26 years and was looking to take the team forward. Captain Bryan Robson was on his last legs and we would need someone else to fight our battles in the centre of the park. Why Fergie hadn’t spotted Keane before then is a puzzle but the manager got him on the phone on Sunday lunch time.

After establishing that nothing had been signed with Blackburn, Ferguson invited Keane to Manchester. The manager met Roy at the airport and drove him to his house where they played a game of snooker.

“I liked him straight away,” said Roy. “For a man managing Manchester United, he was unaffected, funny and reassuringly human. He was also clearly hungry for more trophies. There were a few obstacles to overcome before a deal could be done. We agreed that I would tell Dalglish our deal was off.”

Unsurprisingly, King Kenny wasn’t too pleased to hear that Sir Alex had snatched his star man from under his nose. In his autobiography, Keane reflected on that conversation:

“What the fuck do you mean? We shook hands on a deal. You can’t back out now.”

“Look, I’m sorry, I really am,” I told him, “but I’ve got my future to think about, I’m entitled to that.”

“You’re entitled to nothing except the commitment you made to me on Friday.”

“I’m sorry, if you’d had the forms ready, I would have signed on Friday.”

“Nobody does this to me, nobody does this to Kenny Dalglish. You’re a wee bastard and you won’t get away with this.” Kenny wasn’t cool any longer.


I felt very uneasy about the situation. But here was Kenny Dalglish insisting that I honour a deal I hadn’t signed. The same Kenny Dalglish who’d spent several months “tapping” me up behind Brian Clough’s back. The more he swore at me, the less my conscience bothered me.

Dalglish wasn’t finished there though. The following day, 6.30 in the morning, the Scot was back on the phone:

“You won’t get away with this,” he began. “Blackburn Rovers will sue you for every penny you’ve got.” He and Ferguson had never got on and this more than anything appeared to be bugging him. He called me names. He repeated that nobody “fucked” with Kenny Dalglish and “got away with it”. I told him I was going on holiday and that the matter was closed as far as I was concerned.

So, he didn’t sign for Arsenal, or Blackburn, because they’re shite. He signed for Man United because they’re fucking dynamite.

Imagine Dalglish’s frustration 18 years later, back in charge of Liverpool now, having just witnessed Ferguson lead United to a record 19th title, when he misses out on yet another great prospect. Phil Jones, the lad tipped to be future England captain, was favourite to sign for Liverpool. The papers claimed a deal would be done later that day, only for it to be reported that he was having a medical with United. Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool were amongst the clubs that had bids accepted, yet Jones opted to sign for us. Arsenal even offered him better wages but he turned them down.

However, Blackburn’s owners have thrown a spanner in the works, having got wind of how highly rated this lad is. The £16.5m release clause in his contract has been activated, making it irrelevant how much money they want for him. This didn’t stop Liverpool bidding £22m for the player who has already turned them down in favour of United yesterday.

The player’s agent has told the papers that the deal with United is still on, with it set to be announced today, as this is where the player wants to go. The Venky’s were under the impression the release clause meant clubs were allowed to talk to the player which is why Dalglish, in his desperation, offered £6m more.

As if losing out on the player at the last minute wasn’t embarrassing enough for Liverpool, but throwing money at the situation in the hope that it will get them what they want. Jones has made it clear he wants to play for United, not Liverpool, yet here they are, offering £6m above the release clause, with Dalglish clearly not happy about being done by Fergie again.

Phil Jones’ agent has confirmed that the deal is done and should be announced soon, as the release clause can’t be challenged by the Blackburn owners. The agent confirmed that Jones had met with all four clubs who had offered the release clause and chose United.

Quotes were attributed to Jones, who is set to play alongside our Chris Smalling in today’s England U-21 game against Spain, which suggested if he wanted to continue winning nothing in his career, he would have stayed at Blackburn.

He didn’t sign for Arsenal, or the scousers because they’re shite. He signed for Man United because they’re fucking dynamite.
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#2005 Re: Manchester United FC

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Vidjet ćemo kako će to sve završiti (financijski, jer Jones skoro sigurno ide u Manchester).
Jones očito ide u United jer je to njegov izbor ali ako je uopće Liverpool ponudio tu povećanu ponudu to mi govori da klauzula ne osigurava Unitedu otkup Jonesa za 16 miliona. Nisu djeca pobogu, sigurno bi prelistali ugovor i iščitali tu klauzulu pa tek onda dali veću ponudu. Čemu se blamirati s ponudom ako je ugovor već zaključen?
Ako je to tako onda je ovo klasična, već uhodana taktika novih vlasnika Poola koji u baseballu imaju reputaciju za pumpanje cijena igračima koje ciljaju njihovi suparnici.

Mislim da bi ovo moglo završiti s 'undisclosed' cifrom (sigurno bar 20 miliona) i prelaskom u ManU.
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#2006 Re: Manchester United FC

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Federico Macheda will not be leaving Manchester United this summer, according to the forward's agent.
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#2007 Re: Manchester United FC

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United planira povratak na berzu (Hong Kong)
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#2008 Re: Manchester United FC

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Breaking News: Phil Jones has signed a five-year contract with Manchester United.
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#2009 Re: Manchester United FC

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sa Manutd.com :D i zvanicno

United seal Jones deal

Phil Jones is United's first signing of summer 2011 after the Reds successfully negotiated a transfer with his current club Blackburn Rovers.

A club statement published on Monday reads as follows:

"Manchester United is delighted to announce it has signed an agreement with Blackburn Rovers for the transfer of Phil Jones.

"The player passed a medical in Manchester last week and has agreed a 5-year contract. The deal will be completed once the player returns from international duty."

Jones, 19, came through the youth ranks at Blackburn before turning professional on 1 July 2009. He made his senior debut two months later, in a Carling Cup victory at Nottingham Forest, and went on to make a total of 40 appearances for Rovers.

The robust central defender, who can also play in midfield, has been capped seven times so far by England at Under-21 level. The latest appearance was in Denmark on Sunday, when he started alongside new club colleagues Tom Cleverley, Chris Smalling and Danny Welbeck in the 1-1 draw with Spain in the UEFA Under-21 Championships.
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#2010 Re: Manchester United FC

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Zanimljivo, ne spominje se nikakva brojka :D
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#2011 Re: Manchester United FC

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vaučer wrote:Zanimljivo, ne spominje se nikakva brojka :D
ma nek je on samo dosao :D
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#2012 Re: Manchester United FC

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Pa za onaj iznos koji je u ugovoru postavljen od 16.5 m £ .

Slicno se desilo kada je C. Ziege presao u Liv˙pool iz M˙boroa za 5.5 m koliko je stajalo u ugovoru iako je Chelsea nudio 8 m £ . kao i skotski Rangers . Ovaj htio u LFC i morali ga pustiti iz M˙Borougha za
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#2013 Re: Manchester United FC

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Svašta, na otoku će biti pakleno, mislim da je većina igrača precijenjena, previše se traži za igrače, ne vrijedi Jones ni petinu ovog novca, međutim, Mančester se zanima, ovo na kraju vodi u propast, divlja se sa cijenama igrača u Premiership-u, ne osjećajte se uvrijeđenim, ali , bolest je dati za Younga onolike pare.
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#2014 Re: Manchester United FC

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art vandeley wrote:Pa za onaj iznos koji je u ugovoru postavljen od 16.5 m £ .
A to piše gdje u Unitedovom press-releaseu? ;-)

Edit - 20 miliončeka, potvrdio menadžer Blackburna
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#2015 Re: Manchester United FC

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Nakon onog beskucnika razumljivo je sakrivanje,cini mi se da da oni bjeli iz Londona nikad nisu objavili pravu cijenu Modrica,nisu obavezni valjda :?
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#2016 Re: Manchester United FC

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Naravno da nisu obavezni.

Nekako sumnjam da bi Ferguson propustio priliku natrljati Tottenhamu, Arsenalu i naravno Liverpoolu na nos kako je potpisao Jonesa za istu cifru koju su ti klubovi ponudili.
Zovi me skeptikom, šta ću..
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vaučer wrote:Naravno da nisu obavezni.

Nekako sumnjam da bi Ferguson propustio priliku natrljati Tottenhamu, Arsenalu i naravno Liverpoolu na nos kako je potpisao Jonesa za istu cifru koju su ti klubovi ponudili.
Zovi me skeptikom, šta ću..
Sumnjam, danas kad vide da se dva kluba otimaju za nekog igrača, odmah se i konkurenti zanimaju za istog, bez da ga kvalitetno prostudiraju, previše koštaju engleski igrači, u ostalim ligama, mislim, teško bi se prodali i za trostruko manje novce, još kako šeik luduje, svima postavlja nedostižan prag, nije više zanimljivo.
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#2018 Re: Manchester United FC

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ne zna se ko je gori u poslovanju, Mancesterovih 20 milliona za Jonesa ili Liverpoolovih 20 milliona za Hendersona :lol:
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#2019 Re: Manchester United FC

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todd_smith wrote:ne zna se ko je gori u poslovanju, Mancesterovih 20 milliona za Jonesa ili Liverpoolovih 20 milliona za Hendersona :lol:
To ce da se vidi u buducnosti ... Nije se desilo jednom da je Ferguson dao za igraca neke pare, pa kasnije ucinio da isti vrijedi pet puta vise. Prema tome ... "shut your mouth " :evil:
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#2020 Re: Manchester United FC

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A nije se ni jednom dogodilo da kupi ćorke i preplati bolnički inventar..
Nit bolji nit lošiji od većine zapravo.
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vaučer wrote:A nije se ni jednom dogodilo da kupi ćorke i preplati bolnički inventar..
Nit bolji nit lošiji od većine zapravo.
Kako nije SAFu je slozio Bayern Hergravesa za tada ogromnih 20 miliona i nista.
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#2022 Re: Manchester United FC

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Pa to mu i ja govorim :D
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#2023 Re: Manchester United FC

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AJ nemojte da se provaljujete bezveze ... Uvjeren sam u to da je njegovo poslovanje oko kupovanja i prodaje igraca u velikom plusu ... I malo ih je takvih . A vi antiUnitedovci pricajte sta hocete :evil:
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L00d wrote:AJ nemojte da se provaljujete bezveze ... Uvjeren sam u to da je njegovo poslovanje oko kupovanja i prodaje igraca u velikom plusu ... I malo ih je takvih . A vi antiUnitedovci pricajte sta hocete :evil:
Ima puno boljih vjeruj mi, ali oni uglavnom treniraju manje klubove.
Treneri velikih momčadi, koji troše velike novce na puno igrača svi do jednog imaju listu skupih promašaja - to je činjenica nogometa. Zato ti kažem, nit bolji nit gori od većine.
O razvoju igrača i regeneriranju momčadi kroz godine samo pohvale, tu nitko nikad nije napravio što je Ferguson uspio, ali u kupovini ima brdo promašaja i pomiri se s tim (jer je normalno i samo će te netko ložiti bezveze :lol: ).
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#2025 Re: Manchester United FC

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20 godina se tim bavi, mora imati. Ali siguran sam da je u plusu sto se toga tice...
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