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Ponosan wrote:ovo sto radi ministar obrazovanja Emir Suljagic je za svaku osudu! jedna velika sramota! vjeronauka je obavezan predmet u Njemackoj,Austriji...citavoj zapadnoj Evropi! ali kod nas eto nije,jer sa zapada uzimamo samo ono sto ne valja,ono sto je logicno i moralno ne uzimamo,nazalost! Ovo je dno dna radikalnog ateizma u Sarajevu! a radikalni ateizam proizvodi vjerski fanatizam,to se ne smije zaboraviti!..

Ponosan wrote: vjeronauka je obavezan predmet u Njemackoj,Austriji....

rogoz wrote:

Ponosan wrote:ovo sto radi ministar obrazovanja Emir Suljagic je za svaku osudu! jedna velika sramota! vjeronauka je obavezan predmet u Njemackoj,Austriji...citavoj zapadnoj Evropi! ali kod nas eto nije,jer sa zapada uzimamo samo ono sto ne valja,ono sto je logicno i moralno ne uzimamo,nazalost! Ovo je dno dna radikalnog ateizma u Sarajevu! a radikalni ateizam proizvodi vjerski fanatizam,to se ne smije zaboraviti!..

Konacno glas razuma...

StupskaBitanga wrote: Vjeronauka NIJE UKINUTA
Samo više ne ulazi u prosjek
I šta je tu sporno???

PipiDugaDevetka wrote:

Hoće li kao i u slučaju Melise zvane ''Kisla joj glOOva'' ovo postati regionalni internet hit sa DJ-mixovanjem, opjevavanjem?

kockica_kockica wrote:sve mi je jasno, ali kakve veze imaju dobrovoljacka i vjeronauk u skolama

jasna mi je dobrovoljacka - nekome je ona laz nekome istina, neko place neko se smije, i jos uvijek se ne zna sta je laz ili istina oko te slavne dobrovoljacke... al na stranu ona, jer istina ce nekad doci na vidjelo...
ali kakve veze sa dobrovoljackom ima to sto vjeronauk ne ulazi u prosjek ucenicima ( jer o tome je rijec zar ne?? nema ukidanja i slicnih gluposti koje su se pisale)

July, 21. 2010.- Press Release of the Offices in Bosnia and Herzegovina of the High Representative/EU Special Representative, Council of Europe, United Nations Resident Coordinator, EUFOR, United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, NATO Headquarters Sarajevo and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe strongly condemn recent actions and statements by senior politicians in the Republika Srpska officially glorifying Serb convicted war criminals and denying the fact that genocide took place in Srebrenica in July 1995. That such actions and statements were made immediately before and after the 11 July commemoration of the 15th anniversary of the genocide in Srebrenica, makes them all the more despicable.

We remind the authorities in Republika Srpska that the facts regarding Srebrenica are clear and well-established. The 26 February 2007 verdict of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in the case of Bosnia and Herzegovina v. Federal Republic of Yugoslavia found that genocide occurred in Srebrenica. The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) in successive verdicts starting with Radislav Krstic and most recently in the 10 June verdicts against Ljubisa Beara and Vujadin Popovic, also established individual criminal liability for perpetrators of genocide in Srebrenica.

We recall that, while under the European Convention on Human Rights everyone enjoys the freedom of expression, this may be subjected to limitations, notably for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary or for the protection of the reputation or rights of others. A public official who denies genocide in full knowledge of these court decisions not only insults the memory of those who were murdered, but also actively undermines the rule of law. Publicly awarding those who conceived, directed or facilitated genocide also undermines the authority of the judiciary.

We believe that openly confronting and dealing with the crimes of the past is an absolute necessity in order to build a climate for reconciliation and to ensure full accountability of individuals through the criminal justice system. Denial of the past and fabrication of a distorted historical narrative, on the other hand, only weakens the credibility of those who deny judicially established historical facts. In this regard, the authorities in Republika Srpska would be well advised to follow the recent positive examples set by leaders of Croatia and Serbia.

The White House

Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release July 11, 2010

Statement by the President on the 15th anniversary of the genocide at Srebrenica

On the occasion of the 15th anniversary of the genocide at Srebrenica, and on behalf of the United States, I join my voice with those who are gathered to mourn a great loss and to reflect on an unimaginable tragedy.

Fifteen years ago today, despite decades of pledges of "never again," 8,000 men and boys were murdered in these fields and hills. They were brothers, sons, husbands, and fathers, and they all became victims of genocide. I have said, and I believe, that the horror of Srebrenica was a stain on our collective conscience. We honor their memories and grieve with their families, as many of them are laid to rest here today. They were people who sought to live in peace and had relied on the promise of international protection, but in their hour of greatest need, they were left to fend for themselves. Only those of you who suffered through those days, who lost loved ones, can comprehend the unspeakable horror. You have carried this burden and live with pain and loss every moment of your lives.

This atrocity galvanized the international community to act to end the slaughter of civilians, and the name Srebrenica has since served as a stark reminder of the need for the world to respond resolutely in the face of evil. For fifteen years, the United States has joined with you to foster peace and reconciliation in this troubled land. We recognize that there can be no lasting peace without justice, and we know that we will all be judged by the efforts we make in pursuit of justice for Srebrenica's victims and those who mourn them. Justice must include a full accounting of the crimes that occurred, full identification and return of all those who were lost, and prosecution and punishment of those who carried out the genocide. This includes Ratko Mladic, who presided over the killings and remains at large. The United States calls on all governments to redouble their efforts to find those responsible, to arrest them, and to bring them to justice. In so doing, we will honor Srebrenica's victims and fulfill our moral and legal commitments to end impunity for crimes of such awful magnitude.

We have a sacred duty to remember the cruelty that occurred here, and to prevent such atrocities from happening again. We have an obligation to victims and to their surviving family members. And we have a responsibility to future generations all over the globe to agree that we must refuse to be bystanders to evil; whenever and wherever it occurs, we must be prepared to stand up for human dignity.

May God bless you all, and may God bless the memory of all those who rest here.

Ponosan wrote:ovo sto radi ministar obrazovanja Emir Suljagic je za svaku osudu! jedna velika sramota! vjeronauka je obavezan predmet u Njemackoj,Austriji...citavoj zapadnoj Evropi! ali kod nas eto nije,jer sa zapada uzimamo samo ono sto ne valja,ono sto je logicno i moralno ne uzimamo,nazalost! Ovo je dno dna radikalnog ateizma u Sarajevu! a radikalni ateizam proizvodi vjerski fanatizam,to se ne smije zaboraviti!..

rogoz wrote:

Ponosan wrote:ovo sto radi ministar obrazovanja Emir Suljagic je za svaku osudu! jedna velika sramota! vjeronauka je obavezan predmet u Njemackoj,Austriji...citavoj zapadnoj Evropi! ali kod nas eto nije,jer sa zapada uzimamo samo ono sto ne valja,ono sto je logicno i moralno ne uzimamo,nazalost! Ovo je dno dna radikalnog ateizma u Sarajevu! a radikalni ateizam proizvodi vjerski fanatizam,to se ne smije zaboraviti!..

Konacno glas razuma...

PipiDugaDevetka wrote: Hoće li kao i u slučaju Melise zvane ''Kisla joj glOOva'' ovo postati regionalni internet hit sa DJ-mixovanjem, opjevavanjem?

prljavi Hare wrote:Nista nije sporno,mjesta za svakoga treba da ima!!!Samo sto ovo nije tema o vjeronauci a minderasi se
okupili pa pletu li pletu,a četnici nam opet o glavi rade!!

Ali ako ovo nekoga zabavlja i misli da je ovo najveci problem.......bujrum dobri Bosnjani,zabavljajte se!


P.S.Samo malo pitanje?Vazi li pravilo iz prosloga rata da mi sto ne klanjamo necemo besplatno puske
dobiti?Onako pitam,za mene nije problem ali neka ostali znaju na cemu su,a vidim ovdje na temi par
kompetentnih da daju odgovor na ovo pitanje!!!

udrch wrote:

prljavi Hare wrote:Nista nije sporno,mjesta za svakoga treba da ima!!!Samo sto ovo nije tema o vjeronauci a minderasi se
okupili pa pletu li pletu,a četnici nam opet o glavi rade!!

Ali ako ovo nekoga zabavlja i misli da je ovo najveci problem.......bujrum dobri Bosnjani,zabavljajte se!


P.S.Samo malo pitanje?Vazi li pravilo iz prosloga rata da mi sto ne klanjamo necemo besplatno puske
dobiti?Onako pitam,za mene nije problem ali neka ostali znaju na cemu su,a vidim ovdje na temi par
kompetentnih da daju odgovor na ovo pitanje!!!

Jebiga Hare ako je došlo do toga da tebi neko drugi pušku poklanja onda smo propali skroz..ja sam tebe vidio kao našeg prvog udarnika koji će povesti nas ostale..

E pa Hare i meni smeta što se uopšte raspravlja o vjeronauci, zato i raspravljam ovdje na forumu, jer to što mi pričamo je u biti niđe veze i neće ništa promjeniti..
Samo je međed mogao pokrenuti to pitanje u ovim oskudnim vremenima za našu zemlju..
Ovo pitanje je duboko zaokupilo naš narod u vrijeme kada Dodonja prijeti referendumom i istupanjem iz vlasti..
Ovo pitanje će napraviti duboke podjele u koaliciji SDA i SDP, ne zbog različitosti programa ove dvije stranke, jer se ovdje ne radi o tome, već o inatu jednog međeda podržanog od nekoga iz njegovog vrha, a što ovi drugi neće prihvatiti bez obzira što vrh SDA nije reagovao, u nižim slojevima SDA sve kuha, jer se Emir odavno hvali da će ukinuti vjeronauku i to je jedan od razloga zašto je i dobio ovo ministarstvo..
Umjesto da se bavimo privredom i ujedinjenjem u borbi protiv ovih secesija mi ćemo se bespotrebno krviti oko vjeronauke koja na kraju neće biti ni ukinuta niti svedena na izborni predmet..
Ministar je prekršio zakon u dijelu na koji se on lično poziva..prva tužba roditelja i učenika će ga vratiti u stvarni svijet i vidjeće da je bezveze zakuhavao..

udrch wrote: Ministar je prekršio zakon u dijelu na koji se on lično poziva..prva tužba roditelja i učenika će ga vratiti u stvarni svijet i vidjeće da je bezveze zakuhavao..

seln wrote:

udrch wrote: Ministar je prekršio zakon u dijelu na koji se on lično poziva..prva tužba roditelja i učenika će ga vratiti u stvarni svijet i vidjeće da je bezveze zakuhavao..

Nece ga niko tuziti, niti je uradio nesto pogresno.

crno_sa_zlatnim wrote:

seln wrote:

udrch wrote: Ministar je prekršio zakon u dijelu na koji se on lično poziva..prva tužba roditelja i učenika će ga vratiti u stvarni svijet i vidjeće da je bezveze zakuhavao..

Nece ga niko tuziti, niti je uradio nesto pogresno.

Naravno da tuzba slijedi. Nije mu ovo babina prcija pa da on po svom licnom nahodjenju odobrava i zabranjuje.

jutarnji wrote:Pa jeste glupost u jednoj sekularnoj drzavi uvesti vjeronauku u javnim skolama. Otvori brate privatni islamski,
katolicki, pravoslavni, hare krisna, kakav god, skolski centar i uvedi predmete kakve hoces.

seln wrote:Neke zemlje u EU nude vjeronauku kao fakultativnu nastavu, pored etike, ali to ne ulazi u prosjek ocjena.
Pa ko voli, neka ostane sat duze u skoli i kapak.