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Interesantno da se jos niko nije javio

Ja se ne sjecam da sam u skoli u tim godinama primila bilo kakvu vakcinu? zasto su njih pelcovali?

Ne postoji ikakva detaljna istraga šta je bilo i do koga je, postoji informacija da je sve bilo regularno, od nabavke, do davanja vakcina kao i svake godine, ostaje da se vidi gdje je zapelo.

Lično poznajem ljekare u Sarajevu koji ne daju cjepiti svoju djecu. o tome često ne pričaju ni sa nekim bliskim prijateljima, osim sa najbližima, ili ukoliko već nalete na nekog protivnika vakcina, pa mu se otvore, al strogo ono: ''Nije za širu javnost.''

Ma bilo je neko pelcovanje krajem srednje skole, samo se ne sjecam protiv cega

BIONA wrote:Ja se ne sjecam da sam u skoli u tim godinama primila bilo kakvu vakcinu? zasto su njih pelcovali?

Nisi se vakcinisala ako si isla u skolu za vrijeme rata. Svugdje u svijetu se sprovode vakcinacije /djece, skolske djece i omladine/ protiv difterije, tetanusa, velikog kaslja, poliomijelitisa..... Jedino se mijenja povremeno tzv kalendar vakcinacije, tj. kada se koja vakcina daje. To je tako svugdje u svijetu, bez obzira na politicko uredjenje pojedine zemlje i nema to veze sa nekakvim urotama bilo koga. Postoje zakonski obavezne vakcine i neobavezne /npr. protiv gripe/. Postoji mogucnost /po meni mala/ da konkretna vakcina nije bila ispravna. Ne u smislu da joj sastav ne odgovara deklaraciji, vec da nije bila pravilno uskladistena i transportovana do DZ, npr nijej stajala u frizideru ili frizider nije bio ispravan i sl. Trnjenje ruke, je subjektivan osjecaj i obicno u toj populaciji /tinejdjeri/ postoji tzv "copy cat" ponasanje, tj. jedan se javi sa nekakvim neodredjenim i ne karakteristicnim simptomima, onda masa ostalih osjecaju isto. Ali, sacekajmo da vidimo sta ce biti na kraju price, pa donosimo zakljucke. Pogotovu tipa, kriminalci u bijelom, ubice djece, korumpirani i sl.

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Zavod za javno zdravstvo TK proglasio je epidemiju zarazne bolesti morbila (ospica) na području Tuzlanskog kantona. Na Klinici za zarazne bolesti UKC-a Tuzla trenutno je hospitalizovano 25 pacijenata uzrasta od 5,5 mjeseci do 37 godina, koji su stabilnog zdravstvenog stanja.

Bravo Groveru i ostalim zavjerašima, uspješno vam je protekao napad dezinformacijama, evo ga i nove "žrtve".

Borci za prava tuberkuloze i morbila

Pjanic15 wrote:

http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/bih/proglase ... /150110064

Zavod za javno zdravstvo TK proglasio je epidemiju zarazne bolesti morbila (ospica) na području Tuzlanskog kantona. Na Klinici za zarazne bolesti UKC-a Tuzla trenutno je hospitalizovano 25 pacijenata uzrasta od 5,5 mjeseci do 37 godina, koji su stabilnog zdravstvenog stanja.

Bravo Groveru i ostalim zavjerašima, uspješno vam je protekao napad dezinformacijama, evo ga i nove "žrtve".

Po Groveru, lakse je i zdravije dijete hospitalizirati nego vakcinisati.

ispravno bi bilo uskratiti lječenje osobama koje su oboljele od bolesti protiv kojih nisu vakcinisane, a bile su dužne.

Ovako svaka šuša mudruje, a kad im dijete oboli uzimaju pare za liječenje koje svi sakupljamo. Sam si izazvao, sam i plati.

Evo ga, novi i veći val "žrtava" antivakcionih terorista:

Epidemija morbila traje skoro godinu dana, necijepljenje glavni razlog obolijevanja

Epidemija morbila za područje Federacije Bosne i Hercegovine je proglašena u februaru prošle godine i još uvijek traje. Ukupno je za 2014. godinu prijavljeno 3.426 slučajeva u kojima su pacijenti imali morbile.

"Epidemija je proglašena u nekoliko kantona u Federaciji BiH, što je dokaz da necijepljenje za posljedicu ima obolijevanje. To nije samo dječija bolest, jer obolijevaju i starije osobe", rekla je za Klix.ba glavna federalna epidemiologinja Jelena Ravlija i napomenula da nije neobično to što epidemija traje skoro godinu dana.

"Imamo sličnosti i u zemljama regiona i drugim državama, a sve je posljedica necijepljenja i antivakcinacije", kazala je doktorica Ravlija.

Epidemija morbila je proglašena i u 12 općina u Republici Srpskoj i to u Istočnom Sarajevu, Palama, Modriči, Bratuncu, Bileći, Loparama, Ugljeviku, Srebrenici i Foči, te na području Doboja, Bijeljine, Banje Luke i Trebinja.

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Ni slučajno vakcinisat' djecu! To je čisti otrov. Najbolje je djecu pustit' na miru, od osmog dana im davat' kravlje mlijeko, od četvrtog mjeseca Coca Colu i obavezno pusit' barem dvije kutije cigara u neposrednoj blizini djece do 12 godine. Da ojačaju!

....ja sam sa 26 godina is'o da se vakcinisem protiv hepatitisa, jer je cimer s kojim sam dijelio stan lezo od te bolesti par mjeseci prije nego sam se ja doselio, za to sam opet sazn'o par dana nakon sto sam se doselio...slucajno spomeno doktoru i cojk me iste sekunde uputio da se vakcinisem....odma...bez cekanja...
vakcina se prima triput....kazu da bi svi studenti i vojnici trebali da se vakcinisu protiv hepatitisa....
interesantno da je vakcina protiv hepatitis u svedskoj dzabe a u turskoj se placa....
nisam protiv vakcina za teske bolesti...ali te protiv girpe, ne znam....

Bosanac sa dna kace wrote:....ja sam sa 26 godina is'o da se vakcinisem protiv hepatitisa, jer je cimer s kojim sam dijelio stan lezo od te bolesti par mjeseci prije nego sam se ja doselio, za to sam opet sazn'o par dana nakon sto sam se doselio...slucajno spomeno doktoru i cojk me iste sekunde uputio da se vakcinisem....odma...bez cekanja...
vakcina se prima triput....kazu da bi svi studenti i vojnici trebali da se vakcinisu protiv hepatitisa....
interesantno da je vakcina protiv hepatitis u svedskoj dzabe a u turskoj se placa....
nisam protiv vakcina za teske bolesti...ali te protiv girpe, ne znam....

Ja sam istog misljenja, hepatitis, meningitis, ostale bolesti koje su praktično iskorijenjene vakcinacijom - obavezno. Ovo za gripu mi je malo suludo jer virusi gripe stalno mutiraju i svake godine imamo novu gripu.

Pravo me nerviraju ovi što tule o tome kako vakcine truju djecu a istovremeno velika većina nema pojma o ispravnoj ishrani, uticaju okoliša (zagađenja) na zdravlje, pušenju i ostalom. Čisto licemjerje!

Neko dijete u školi mog sina je prije par mjeseci dobilo neku zaraznu boleštinu te je škola obavijestila ostale roditelje da se posavjetujemo sa liječnikom ukoliko ostala djeca budu imala simptome. Naš porodicni liječnik je samo pogledao u karton mog sina i rekao da ne brinem jer je vakcinisan. Inače bi bila zabrana odlaska u školu 15 dana i stalna briga.

Anti kocnicar, covek (sarkasticno) objasnjava zasto je protiv kocnica u automobilima

I’m an Anti-Braker

Guys, I wanted to let you know about a personal decision I recently made. I don’t really feel like discussing it, but I want to put my position out there. Please be respectful. This is a really long post, but please read the whole thing.

I’m taking the brakes off my car. This isn’t a rash decision, so please listen up.

A few weeks ago I saw a car accident - two people went through an intersection at the same time. Both slammed on their brakes at the same time and collided. Fortunately no one was seriously injured.

But then it occurred to me - if they had just gone through the intersection, they wouldn’t have collided. The brakes CAUSED the accident!

So, I decided to do my own research and what I found was *staggering*: Hundreds of people every year are seriously injured by unnecessary braking. One time, I was driving in the snow and I just lightly tapped my brakes and it caused my car to COMPLETELY LOSE CONTROL. My brakes could have very easily gotten me killed. Even more astoundingly is how often brake pads will warp and distort rotors, causing bumpy rides and squeaky wheels.

And you know what? I also found that decades ago brakes weren’t even used! People would control their vehicle’s speed with downshifting and engine braking. Maybe it’s just coincidence, but back when engine braking was used there were almost no automotive fatalities. There were NEVER brake caused car accidents.

After doing some more digging, I found a nefarious plot - Mechanics: The very people who we trust to work on and care for our cars - get PAID to install and change brakes! You might THINK they care about our safety, or our cars - but they’re just in it for the $49.99 brake pad installations.

So I talked to my Mechanic about taking the brakes off my car and I was disgusted by how poorly he treated me. He accused me of being ignorant, when I was the one that looked up how much rotational torque brakes can put on your rotors. He didn’t even know how much torque a rotor can take before being warped!!! He said “rotors are designed to be compressed, that it isn’t actually a problem” just completely dismissing me.

Then he had the NERVE to say that my personal choice had consequences, that I would affect everyone around me. Well I’ve had it with him, I’m looking for a new mechanic. The problem is that so many mechanics are bought and paid by the automotive industry that ALL of them are insistent about my car having brakes. Most of them won’t even look at my car for other reasons, saying that a brakeless car could cause damage to their shop and other cars. What a bunch of bullshit, they just don’t like those who believe in alternative braking techniques.

Now of course big government is getting involved, saying that I *MUST* have brakes. That this isn’t just about me, and that I could hurt people. What happened to personal freedom? What happened to liberty?

So all I’m saying is, do your research. Don’t just listen to the NTSB and big automotive. I made a personal decision for my family, we just said no to brakes. We’ll be using natural remedies like Gravity, and putting our feet on the ground to stop. After all, if that was good enough for me when I was on my bike as a kid, it’s good enough for my children in my car.

Otprilike ja ovako vidim ljude koji su protiv vakcinacije.

Grover wrote:http://direktno.hr/en/2014/direkt/8154/ ... -smrti.htm

"Proglašena epidemija morbila u TK" ..... "Kao mogući razlog epidemijskih razmjera zarazne bolesti navodi se podatak da je u postratnoj BiH izvršena slabija vakcinacija djece u poređenju sa predratnim godinama. Od sredine prošle godine pa do danas na UKC Tuzla je zbog morbila hospitalizirano 148 pacijenata.

"Na bolničkom liječenju trenutno se nalazi 25 bolesnika od čega je većina hospitalizirana sa komplikacijama. Njihovo zdravstveno stanje trenutno je stabilno“, kaže Aščerić - Mujedinović." Klix od 10.01.2015

Grover wrote:http://direktno.hr/en/2014/direkt/8154/ ... -smrti.htm

"...Njemačke vlasti: Morbile stigle u Berlin iz BiH
Njemačke vlasti saopštile su danas da tragovi epidemije malih boginja u Berlinu vode do nevakcinisanih izbjeglica, ali sve ukazuje i na to da su najmanje dva slučaja stigla iz SAD...."

Grover wrote:http://direktno.hr/en/2014/direkt/8154/ ... -smrti.htm

Ja koliko znam, a zivim u Hr, cjepivo 5u1, se dodatno placa. Sto ce reci da roditelj sam odlucuje hoce na vakcinu ici normalnim putem (besplatno) ili ce platiti da im dijete dobije 5u1 vakcinu.
Treba uvesti samo testiranje na antitijela kod male djece.

Grover wrote:http://direktno.hr/en/2014/direkt/8154/ ... -smrti.htm

Ovo su dječije bolesti koje izazivaju komplikacije kod odraslih!
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Boginje spadaju u grupu zaraznih bolesti i njih karakterišu osip na koži, crvenilo kože, kao i povišena temperatura. Dok kod djece boginje uglavnom prođu s blažim simptomima, kod odraslih boginje prate visoka temperatura, veće promjene na koži, a mogu da se jave i bakterijske komplikacije
Dječije zarazne bolesti, poput malih boginja, zauška i varičela, mogu da izazovu velike komplikacije kod odraslih osoba koje ih nisu preležale u djetinjstvu. Posljedice dječijih bolesti su daleko veće kod odraslih osoba, a u nekim slučajevima je neophodno bolničko liječenje.
Boginje spadaju u grupu zaraznih bolesti i njih karakterišu osip na koži, crvenilo kože, kao i povišena temperatura. Dok kod djece boginje uglavnom prođu sa blažim simptomima, kod odraslih boginje prate visoka temperatura, veće promjene na koži, a mogu da se jave i bakterijske komplikacije.
Ukoliko se djeca zaraze boginjama, postoje šanse da će ih i roditelji dobiti od njih. Ljekari upozoravaju da osip na koži mora da se proverava kod ljekara, jer odrasli ponekad pomisle da je u pitanju alergijska rekacija, a u stvari su zaraženi boginjama.
Male boginje ili morbili kod odraslih bolesnika mogu dovestim do povećane vrijednosti transaminaza, dok rubeola, odnosno crvenka, može da izazove velikh problema trudnicama.
Virus je veoma teratogen, iako rubeola ima laku kliničku sliku i može da izazove komplikacije u trudnoći. Ova bolest izaziva komplikacije kod fetusa, a rubeola može dovesti do komplikacija u prva tri mjeseca trudnoće koje izazivaju prevremeni porođaj.
Zauške takođe izazivaju velike komplikacije kod odraslih, a podjednako loše utiče na oba pola i može da dovede do neplodnosti. Kod muškaraca zauške mogu da izazovu oticanje testisa, a u nekim slučajevima i neplodnost.
Ovčije boginja, odnosno varičele, isto izazivaju loše zdravstveno stanje kod odraslih, pa je u nekim slučajevim neophodno bolničko liječenje. Komplikacije koje izazivaja varičela dovode do teške upale pluća, upale mozga ili bolova u zglobovima.
Vakcinacija protiv ove bolesti se preporučuje ženama koje planiraju trudnoću, a nisu preležale ovčije boginje. Ukoliko trudnica dobije varčelu u trudnoći može da dobije tešku upalu pluća, koja loše utiče na bebu. Ukoliko trudnica dobije varičelu pred kraj trudnoće, postoje šanse da dijete kad se rodi ima ovčije boginje.

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EXCELSIOR SPRINGS, MO (KCTV) -

An Excelsior Springs man has been awarded $7.4 million because his wife was left disabled by at least one of the vaccines she took before a trip.

On June 22, 2011, Carolyn Schutte went to the Clay County Public Health Center in Liberty for a round of shots. She was preparing for a trip to Africa and received vaccinations for various diseases, including tetanus, Hepatitis A and B, and typhoid. Two days later, she was debilitated with permanent brain damage caused by encephalopathy.

"The active lifestyle that we had before is over," said Jim Schutte, Carolyn Schutte's husband and now her guardian. "It's gone. We just have to make due with what's left."

The couple were once avid travelers.

Now, Jim Schutte is homebound, assisting with his wife's around-the-clock care.

"I provide most of her care," Schutte said, "But I can't do it 24 hours a day, so I have to have somebody coming in here and helping. It gets very expensive very quickly. It costs a lot more than you might think."

His wife, who was once the mayor of Excelsior Springs, needs a hydration tube and specially prepared food. She can't walk. She is paralyzed on one side. The only words she can manage are 'yes' and 'no.' But she seems to he able to comprehend everything around her.

"When I talk to her about private jokes that we had shared, she always laughs," Schutte said. "She calls for me in the evening. She wants me to come up and hold hands with her, and so we do that from about 7:30 until she's ready for bed."

Despite all the difficulties, Jim Schutte remains a passionate advocate for vaccinations.

"What happened to Carolyn is a rarity," Schutte said. "It's a freak of nature. It happens occasionally. But the chances of it happening to you are minimal compared to the risks of actually contracting the diseases you are being vaccinated against."

He's not just talking internet research. He holds a doctorate in human growth development and had done post-doctoral work in biomedical research.

One of his fears is that his wife's rare reaction to a vaccine will further fuel the anti-vaccination movement that he is so strongly against.

"I think people are taking anecdotal situations like Carolyn's and making it into something it is not," Schutte said.

He is frustrated with the resurgence of measles cases, which he blames on people refusing the vaccinate their children, which spreads the virus to immunocompromised children who cannot safely get the vaccine.

"I have friends who are still to this day crippled by injuries they received from getting polio back in the early 1950s," Schutte said. "So you can't say that the polio vaccine is a bad idea because it's not."

The settlement with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services was reached on Monday. The money comes from the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NCVIP), which was set up for cases where someone is injured by a vaccine. The NCVIP is funded by a tax placed on vaccines that is paid by vaccine manufacturers. The payment covers the loss of her income and helps pay for her costly care. Schutte says payments will be split up annually over 20 years to pay for his wife's home-based care.

There is no judgement of fault, and the Schuttes' lawyer, Leland Dempsey, said no one did anything wrong. He explained that vaccines work on the immune system, and a relatively small number of people's immune systems respond poorly.

"You can't predict who will suffer that auto-immune response," Dempsey said.

Because Carolyn Schutte received multiple vaccinations at once, no one knows which vaccine caused her negative reaction.

Jim Schutte does wonder whether part of her reaction came as a result of having multiple vaccines at once. He says the Centers for Disease Control have not addressed the topic, but he reasons that since vaccines trigger an immune response, having multiple vaccines administered at one time could put a greater strain on the immune system. It's with that reasoning that his grandson is getting his childhood vaccinations in spaced out doses, just in case his logic holds up.

He said his wife still has much of her personality, but has difficulty expressing it. He focuses now on her care and future.

"It hurts, but you have to deal with the reality. And that's the reality we have," he said.

The Clay County Public Health Center issued the following statement:

"The Clay County Public Health Center expresses its sincere empathy to Carolyn Schutte and her family. No words can truly ease the burden placed on the family over this tragic occurrence. We know that like any medical procedure, vaccination can have some risks. Although these events are very rare, individuals react differently to vaccines and there is no way to predict how an individual's immune system will react to a particular vaccine. We agree with and appreciate Jim Schutte's continued support of vaccines to prevent and eliminate diseases throughout the population."

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Luđi ste vi što odgovarate groveru, on samo dipla svoje propagiranje smrti.

Grover