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President Putin has called for talks to discuss "statehood" for eastern Ukraine, Russian media report.
He said the issue needed to be discussed to ensure the interests of local people "are definitely upheld".
His comments came after the EU gave Russia a one-week ultimatum to reverse course in Ukraine or face sanctions.
Russia denies Western accusations that its forces illegally crossed into eastern Ukraine to support separatists there.
"Russia cannot stand aside when people are being shot at almost at point blank," he added, describing the rebels' actions as "the natural reaction of people who are defending their rights".
He dismissed the EU's threat of further sanctions, accusing the EU of "backing a coup d'etat" in Ukraine.
The West, Mr Putin said, should have foreseen Russia's reaction to the situation, adding it was impossible to predict how the crisis would end.
Pro-Russian rebels have made gains against Ukrainian troops in recent days in the eastern Donetsk and Luhansk regions.
Also on Sunday, Russian media reported that 10 Russian paratroopers returned home in exchange for 63 captured Ukrainian soldiers held by Russia.
Some 2,600 people have died in fighting since April.
area51 wrote:U svemu ovome gube i rusi i ukrajinci i evropa samo je prekookeanski šljam na dobitku
Tako nekako, da.
Obama vodi rat do posljednjeg Ukrajinca.
Nevjerovatno je to, skuhaju rat gdje pozele, bez ikakvih sankcija.
Pola planete zapalili u zadnjih 60-70 godina, i nikome nista.
I jos hinjski glume "faktor stabilnosti".
Pa eto, nametnule su im Sjeverna Koreja i Kuba sankcije... Nitko ne brani nijednoj državi na planeti da uvede sankcije SAD-u, ali opet, rijetko koja se odluči na takav potez, "nemoralnosti" Amerike unatoč. Nije valjda da su Židovi na vlasti u svim državama svijeta...
Martinez_ wrote:neko drugi srozava nivo diskusije i vodi temu pod ključ!
Ova tema je najvažnija tema za budućnost Europe i ne smije pod ključ.
kakva bolan buducnost kad pola likova o proslosti pisu ovdje
Pa zato PTSP i jeste gadna bolest, zakuca te za jedan trenutak iz prošlosti i ne mrdaš dalje, prođe 20 i više godina, ali oni ostaju u prošlosti, za njih je (oboljele od PTSP-a) vrijeme zauvijek stalo.
daxon wrote:Pa zato PTSP i jeste gadna bolest, zakuca te za jedan trenutak iz prošlosti i ne mrdaš dalje, prođe 20 i više godina, ali oni ostaju u prošlosti, za njih je (oboljele od PTSP-a) vrijeme zauvijek stalo.
Miliš da bi drugačije gledali na ove događaje da nije PTSP-a...? I da nje bilo rata kod nas oni bi bili protiv Rusa. Da sam đavo zarati protiv njih, oni bi bili protiv Rusa. Da sam Bog stane uz Ruse, oni bi bili protiv Rusa.
Rusofobija je duboko ukorijenjen socijalni defekt kod jednog dijela našeg nesretnog svijeta.
General War wrote:
Kava dikusija, citavo vrijeme vodite "agitaciju" za rusku svar...i pokusavate Bosancima prodati suplju kako ne treba ukrajinu gledati kroz prizmu BIH agresije...pa jarane pogresno mjesto - pogresni ljudi, jebi ga...
Pa vi vodite agitaciju za Desni sektor i kijevsku huntu i NATO, i šta sad? Hoćeš reći svi oboleli od PTSP-a pa iz obzira ne trebamo pričati?
Sećom, nisi u pravu, pogledaj samo odakle dolazi većina tih što ''agituju za rusku stvar''...iznenadio bi se koliko i tvojih sunarodnika ne priznaje tvoj interes i interes hunte u Kijevu za opšti.
The latest Washington lie, this one coming from NATO, is that Russia has invaded Ukraine with 1,000 troops and self-propelled artillery.
How do we know that this is a lie? Is it because we have heard nothing but lies about Russia from NATO, from US ambassador to the UN Samantha Power, from assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland, from Obama and his entire regime of pathological liars, and from the British, German, and French governments along with the BBC and the entirety of the Western media?
This, of course, is a good reason for knowing that the latest Western propaganda is a lie. Those who are pathological liars don’t suddenly start telling the truth.
But there are even better reasons for understanding that Russia has not invaded Ukraine with 1,000 troops.
One reason is that Putin has invested heavily in diplomacy backed by unprovocative behavior. He would not risk his bet on diplomacy by sending in troops too few in number to have a decisive effect on the outcome.
Another reason is that if Putin decides he has no alternative to sending the Russian military to protect the Russian residents in eastern and southern Ukraine, Putin will send in enough troops to do the job quickly as he did in Georgia when the American and Israeli trained Georgian army invaded South Ossetia and was destroyed in a few hours by the Russian response. If you hear that 100,000 Russian troops accompanied by air cover have invaded Ukraine, it would be a more believable claim.
A third reason is that the Russian military does not need to send troops into Ukraine in order to stop the bombing and artillery shelling of the Russian populations by Washington’s puppet government in Kiev. The Russian air force can easily and quickly destroy the Ukrainian air force and artillery and, thereby, stop the Ukrainian attack on the secessionist provinces.
It was only two weeks ago that a fabricated report spread by the UK Guardian and the BBC that a Russian armored convoy entered Ukraine and was destroyed by the Ukrainian Military. And two weeks prior to that we had the hoax of the satellite images allegedly released by the US State Department that the corrupt US ambassador in Kiev spread around the world on social media allegedly showing that Russian forces were firing into Ukraine. One or two weeks from now we will have another lie, and another a week or two after that, and so on.
The cumulative effect of lie piled upon lie for most people is to build the view that the Russians are up to no good. Once this view is established, Western governments can take more serious moves against Russia.
The alleged entry of 1,000 Russian soldiers into Ukraine has been declared by NATO Brigadier General Niko Tak to be a “significant escalation in Russia’s military interference in Ukraine.” The champion liar Samantha Power told the US Security Council that “Russia has to stop lying.” The UK ambassador to the UN said that Russia was guilty of “a clear violation of sovereign Ukrainian territory.” UK prime minister Cameron warned Russia of “further consequences.” German chancellor Merkel announced that there would be more sanctions. A German Security Council advisor declared that “war with Russia is an option.” Polish foreign minister Sikorski called it Russian aggression that required international action. French president Hollande declared Russia’s behavior to be “intolerable.” Ukraine’s security council imposed mandatory conscription.
This suicidal drive toward war with Russia by Europe’s leaders is based entirely on a transparent lie that 1,000 Russian troops crossed into Ukraine
Of course the Western media followed in lock-step. The BBC, CNN, and Die Welt are among the most reckless and irresponsible.
The mountain of lies piled up by Western governments and media has obscured the true story. The US government orchestrated the overthrow of the elected government in Ukraine and imposed a US puppet in Kiev. Washington’s puppet government began issuing threats and committing violent acts against the Russian populations in the former Russian territories that Soviet leaders attached to Ukraine. The Russian people in eastern and southern Ukraine resisted the threat brought to them by Washington’s puppet government in Kiev.
Washington continually accuses the Russian government of supporting the people in the territories who have voted their separation from Ukraine. There would be no war, Washington alleges, except for Russian support. But, of course, Washington could easily stop the violence by ordering its puppet government in Kiev to stop the bombing and shelling of the former Russian provinces. If Russia can tell the “separatists” not to fight, Washington can tell Kiev not to fight.
The only possible conclusion from the facts is that Washington is determined to involve Europe in a war with Russia or at least in an armed standoff in order to break up Europe’s political and economic relations with Russia.
Europe’s leaders are going along with this because European countries, except for Charles de Gaulle’s France, have not had independent foreign policies since the end of World War II. They follow Washington’s lead and are well paid for doing so.
The inability of Europe to produce independent leadership dooms Russian President Putin’s diplomacy to failure. If European capitals cannot make decisions independently of Washington, there is no scope for Putin’s diplomacy.
Notice that the very day after Putin met with Washington’s Ukrainian vassal in an effort to resolve the situation, the new lie of Russian invasion was issued in order to ensure that no good can come of the meeting in which Putin invested his time and energy.
Washington’s only interest is in hegemony. Washington has no interest in resolving the situation that Washington itself created in order to bring discomfort and confusion to Russia. With the caveat that the situation could be resolved by Ukrainian economic collapse, otherwise the longer Putin waits to resolve the situation by force, the more difficult the task will be.
Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. Roberts' latest books are The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West and How America Was Lost.
The latest Washington lie, this one coming from NATO, is that Russia has invaded Ukraine with 1,000 troops and self-propelled artillery.
How do we know that this is a lie? Is it because we have heard nothing but lies about Russia from NATO, from US ambassador to the UN Samantha Power, from assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland, from Obama and his entire regime of pathological liars, and from the British, German, and French governments along with the BBC and the entirety of the Western media?
This, of course, is a good reason for knowing that the latest Western propaganda is a lie. Those who are pathological liars don’t suddenly start telling the truth.
But there are even better reasons for understanding that Russia has not invaded Ukraine with 1,000 troops.
One reason is that Putin has invested heavily in diplomacy backed by unprovocative behavior. He would not risk his bet on diplomacy by sending in troops too few in number to have a decisive effect on the outcome.
Another reason is that if Putin decides he has no alternative to sending the Russian military to protect the Russian residents in eastern and southern Ukraine, Putin will send in enough troops to do the job quickly as he did in Georgia when the American and Israeli trained Georgian army invaded South Ossetia and was destroyed in a few hours by the Russian response. If you hear that 100,000 Russian troops accompanied by air cover have invaded Ukraine, it would be a more believable claim.
A third reason is that the Russian military does not need to send troops into Ukraine in order to stop the bombing and artillery shelling of the Russian populations by Washington’s puppet government in Kiev. The Russian air force can easily and quickly destroy the Ukrainian air force and artillery and, thereby, stop the Ukrainian attack on the secessionist provinces.
It was only two weeks ago that a fabricated report spread by the UK Guardian and the BBC that a Russian armored convoy entered Ukraine and was destroyed by the Ukrainian Military. And two weeks prior to that we had the hoax of the satellite images allegedly released by the US State Department that the corrupt US ambassador in Kiev spread around the world on social media allegedly showing that Russian forces were firing into Ukraine. One or two weeks from now we will have another lie, and another a week or two after that, and so on.
The cumulative effect of lie piled upon lie for most people is to build the view that the Russians are up to no good. Once this view is established, Western governments can take more serious moves against Russia.
The alleged entry of 1,000 Russian soldiers into Ukraine has been declared by NATO Brigadier General Niko Tak to be a “significant escalation in Russia’s military interference in Ukraine.” The champion liar Samantha Power told the US Security Council that “Russia has to stop lying.” The UK ambassador to the UN said that Russia was guilty of “a clear violation of sovereign Ukrainian territory.” UK prime minister Cameron warned Russia of “further consequences.” German chancellor Merkel announced that there would be more sanctions. A German Security Council advisor declared that “war with Russia is an option.” Polish foreign minister Sikorski called it Russian aggression that required international action. French president Hollande declared Russia’s behavior to be “intolerable.” Ukraine’s security council imposed mandatory conscription.
This suicidal drive toward war with Russia by Europe’s leaders is based entirely on a transparent lie that 1,000 Russian troops crossed into Ukraine
Of course the Western media followed in lock-step. The BBC, CNN, and Die Welt are among the most reckless and irresponsible.
The mountain of lies piled up by Western governments and media has obscured the true story. The US government orchestrated the overthrow of the elected government in Ukraine and imposed a US puppet in Kiev. Washington’s puppet government began issuing threats and committing violent acts against the Russian populations in the former Russian territories that Soviet leaders attached to Ukraine. The Russian people in eastern and southern Ukraine resisted the threat brought to them by Washington’s puppet government in Kiev.
Washington continually accuses the Russian government of supporting the people in the territories who have voted their separation from Ukraine. There would be no war, Washington alleges, except for Russian support. But, of course, Washington could easily stop the violence by ordering its puppet government in Kiev to stop the bombing and shelling of the former Russian provinces. If Russia can tell the “separatists” not to fight, Washington can tell Kiev not to fight.
The only possible conclusion from the facts is that Washington is determined to involve Europe in a war with Russia or at least in an armed standoff in order to break up Europe’s political and economic relations with Russia.
Europe’s leaders are going along with this because European countries, except for Charles de Gaulle’s France, have not had independent foreign policies since the end of World War II. They follow Washington’s lead and are well paid for doing so.
The inability of Europe to produce independent leadership dooms Russian President Putin’s diplomacy to failure. If European capitals cannot make decisions independently of Washington, there is no scope for Putin’s diplomacy.
Notice that the very day after Putin met with Washington’s Ukrainian vassal in an effort to resolve the situation, the new lie of Russian invasion was issued in order to ensure that no good can come of the meeting in which Putin invested his time and energy.
Washington’s only interest is in hegemony. Washington has no interest in resolving the situation that Washington itself created in order to bring discomfort and confusion to Russia. With the caveat that the situation could be resolved by Ukrainian economic collapse, otherwise the longer Putin waits to resolve the situation by force, the more difficult the task will be.
Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. Roberts' latest books are The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West and How America Was Lost.
Mala sugestija.
Kada postavljaš ovakav opsežan tekst na engleskom, napravi kratku najavu, tipa "Paul Crraig Roberts, ekonomista, kolumnista, član Reganove administracije tvrdi da je priča o ulasku 1000 ruskih vojnika laž. Dakle, najznačajniju tezu iz članka, kratak citat i link za čitav tekst.
U protivnom rizikuješ da ostaneš nepročitan.
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Kada postavljaš ovakav opsežan tekst na engleskom, napravi kratku najavu, tipa "Paul Crraig Roberts, akonomista, kolumnista član Reganove administracije tvrdi da je priča o ulasku 1000 ruskih vojnika laž. Dakle, najznačajniju tezu iz članka, kratak citat i link za čitav tekst. U protivnom rizikuješ da ostaneš nepročitan.
Najsistematičniji kritičari deformacija američkog sistema i politike nekoliko zadnjih administracija dolaze upravo iz američke akademske i bivše političke zajednice.
Challenger__ wrote:Najsistematičniji kritičari deformacija američkog sistema i politike nekoliko zadnjih administracija dolaze upravo iz američke akademske i bivše političke zajednice.
Koliko god se gnusao njihovih metoda unazad tridesetak godina, potpuno razumijem njihovu frustriranost danas... Dzaba su krecili...
Citirani, a uvaženi Paul Crraig Roberts, član Reganove administracije, ne kreči ni malo. On na svom blogu sistematski upozorava svijet da je riječ o psihopatama koje žele III sv. rat.
Challenger__ wrote:Citirani, a uvaženi Paul Crraig Roberts, član Reganove administracije, ne kreči ni malo. On na svom blogu sistematski upozorava svijet da je riječ o psihopatama koje žele III sv. rat.
According to Lenin, the Soviet government rested “directly on force, not limited by anything, not restricted by any laws, nor any absolute rules.” (V.I. Lenin, “A Contribution to the History of the Question of the Dictatorship,” October 20, 1920, in Collected Works, 4th Russian edition, p. 326.)
In the 21st century the US government has echoed Lenin. No laws, domestic or international, restrain the US from torture. Laws do not prevent the US from attacking sovereign countries or from conducting military operations within the borders of sovereign countries. Constitutional protections and due process do not prevent the US from detaining citizens indefinitely or from murdering them on suspicion or accusation alone.
The latest manifestation of Washington’s Leninism is Washington’s announcement that the US government has no plans to coordinate US attacks on ISIS on Syrian territory with the Syrian government. Washington recognizes no limitations on its use of force, and the sovereignty of countries provides no inhibition.
In Washington coercion has supplanted the rule of law.
Syria has every right to be nervous. The reason ISIS is operating on Syrian territory is that Washington armed them and sent them to Syria. Washington’s air strikes on ISIS could very well be cover for air strikes on Syrian armed forces.
Here we see the complete failure of the Obama regime. As in Libya, the Obama regime set jihadists lose on Syria, pretending that they were fighting for democracy against a dictator. But Washington lost control over its monster which has gobbled up large parts of Syria and Iraq and is forming them into a new country hostile both to the West and to the Muslim vassals of the West.
Simultaneously, the US is threatening Russia with war. And everywhere hostility is rising against Washington. Without diplomacy Washington only has coercion. Does Washington have enough coercion to subdue the world?
The government of Washington’s ally, Israel, has also endorsed Leninism and is using the same principle of boundless coercion against the Palestinians.
Of all the governments in the world, only Washington and Zionist Israel have declared themselves to be unaccountable and above law. They are models not of democracy but of tyranny.
Of all the governments in the world, only Washington and Zionist Israel have declared themselves to be unaccountable and above law. They are models not of democracy but of tyranny.
Da, da, to je to! To je ta umišljena "posebnost", taj opaki i opasni lažni "ekskluzivitet" o kome buncaju i koji im sa punim pravom spočitava predsjednik Rusije. Cionističkom i američkom "ekskluzivizmu" hladno možemo dodati i tekfirijski (panvehabijski ) ekskluzivizam i ta tri fenomena ( u osnovi jedan) definisati kao političke kancere 21. vijeka.
The latest Washington lie, this one coming from NATO, is that Russia has invaded Ukraine with 1,000 troops and self-propelled artillery.
Renta wrote:Danas sam preumoran za praćenje interneta ali slučajno naletih na ovu vijest koja zaslužuje da se stavi u temu;
Ukrajina: Ruski tenkovi sravnili sa zemljom pogranični gradić
Ukrajina je priopćila u subotu da su ruski tenkovi sravnili sa zemljom mali pogranični grad te da su proruski pobunjenici nastavili napredovanje na istoku zemlje.
Ukrajinski vojni glasnogovornik Andrij Lisenko rekao je novinarima u Kijevu da su tenkovi ušli u gradić Novosvitlivku na granici s Rusijom te da su otvorili vatru na svaku kuću.
"Imamo informacije da su praktički sve kuće uništene", izjavio jer Lisenko ne navodeći kada se dogodio taj napad. Ukrajinski dnevni vojni brifinzi obično pokrivaju posljednja 24 sata.
"Nastavlja se izravna vojna agresija Ruske Federacije na istoku Ukrajine. Rusi i dalje šalju vojnu opremu i 'plaćenike'", objavilo je ukrajinsko Vijeće za obranu i sigurnost na Twitteru.
Lisenko je također rekao da su pobunjenici nastavili s napredovanjem i osvajanjima istočno od grada Luhanska, jednog od glavnih uporišta separatista otkako su izbili sukobi.
U međuvremenu su ukrajinske i ruske novinske agencije javile da su najmanje dva civila poginula u novom granatiranju Donecka te da je ukrajinska vojska obnovila ofenzivu u regiji Luhanska. (Hina)
Challenger__ wrote:Citirani, a uvaženi Paul Crraig Roberts, član Reganove administracije, ne kreči ni malo. On na svom blogu sistematski upozorava svijet da je riječ o psihopatama koje žele III sv. rat.
According to Lenin, the Soviet government rested “directly on force, not limited by anything, not restricted by any laws, nor any absolute rules.” (V.I. Lenin, “A Contribution to the History of the Question of the Dictatorship,” October 20, 1920, in Collected Works, 4th Russian edition, p. 326.)
In the 21st century the US government has echoed Lenin. No laws, domestic or international, restrain the US from torture. Laws do not prevent the US from attacking sovereign countries or from conducting military operations within the borders of sovereign countries. Constitutional protections and due process do not prevent the US from detaining citizens indefinitely or from murdering them on suspicion or accusation alone.
The latest manifestation of Washington’s Leninism is Washington’s announcement that the US government has no plans to coordinate US attacks on ISIS on Syrian territory with the Syrian government. Washington recognizes no limitations on its use of force, and the sovereignty of countries provides no inhibition.
In Washington coercion has supplanted the rule of law.
Syria has every right to be nervous. The reason ISIS is operating on Syrian territory is that Washington armed them and sent them to Syria. Washington’s air strikes on ISIS could very well be cover for air strikes on Syrian armed forces.
Here we see the complete failure of the Obama regime. As in Libya, the Obama regime set jihadists lose on Syria, pretending that they were fighting for democracy against a dictator. But Washington lost control over its monster which has gobbled up large parts of Syria and Iraq and is forming them into a new country hostile both to the West and to the Muslim vassals of the West.
Simultaneously, the US is threatening Russia with war. And everywhere hostility is rising against Washington. Without diplomacy Washington only has coercion. Does Washington have enough coercion to subdue the world?
The government of Washington’s ally, Israel, has also endorsed Leninism and is using the same principle of boundless coercion against the Palestinians.
Of all the governments in the world, only Washington and Zionist Israel have declared themselves to be unaccountable and above law. They are models not of democracy but of tyranny.
svim proamerikenjcima...
Gledaj sad kad pocnu ad hominem napadi na covjeka.
Tipa on je stara hladnoratovska skola, ne prati globalne trendove, posenilio, krivo mu sto nije na nekoj funkciji u administraciji itd itd.
Isto kao i vesli klark kad je najavio koje ce zemlje biti napadnute.
Ma Rusi su beskrupulozni. Oni će sravniti sve pred sobom. Ti nemaju poštovanja prema životu ili bilo čemu. Sjeti se samo kako je Čečenija izgledala. Samo je pitanje koliko će Ukrajinci izdržati. A da će pretrpjeti velike štete, to ne sumnjaj.
5 0 5 wrote:Ma Rusi su beskrupulozni. Oni će sravniti sve pred sobom. Ti nemaju poštovanja prema životu ili bilo čemu. Sjeti se samo kako je Čečenija izgledala. Samo je pitanje koliko će Ukrajinci izdržati. A da će pretrpjeti velike štete, to ne sumnjaj.
5 0 5 wrote:Ma Rusi su beskrupulozni. Oni će sravniti sve pred sobom. Ti nemaju poštovanja prema životu ili bilo čemu. Sjeti se samo kako je Čečenija izgledala. Samo je pitanje koliko će Ukrajinci izdržati. A da će pretrpjeti velike štete, to ne sumnjaj.
Pa da su takvi, ove ukrajinske vojnike iz tzv. kotlova ne bi puštali na slobodu preko svoje teritorije, sugerišući novorusima da ih puste, već bi ih u tim kotlovima lagano skuhali
Pominješ Čečeniju, pa pogledaj američki rad u Iraku, pa zatim pogledaj današnju Čečeniju, a pogledaj i današnji Irak, sve će ti se samo reći...
Usput, prebroji i žrtve koje su posljedica ruske vojne mašinerije van Rusije, a zatim prebroji žrtve koje su posljedica američke vojne mašinerije van USA, garantujem ti da je omjer 1 : 10 000 na strani USA.
Kako li prolaze kriticari ruske politike u rusiji onda?? a cekaj znam
Traitors' Slur Goes Mainstream In Russia
n the background of a glossy new website, a grinning family, apparently in Crimea, looks on with pride at two Russian soldiers. In the foreground is a list -- a who's who of Russian journalists, activists and entertainers who are said to threaten the family's implied bliss following Russia's annexation of the peninsula.
The website, called "Traitors," is the most recent incarnation of an effort by hard-line Kremlin supporters to out the so-called fifth column of "national traitors" referred to by Russian President Vladimir Putin in a national address on March 18.
In Putin's 14 years in power, the Kremlin has used its heft to target opposition members and independent media before. But the president's rhetoric appears to be a signal that an enhanced crackdown is on the way, and it has spurred a mainstream intimidation campaign.
Soon after the United States and Europe imposed sanctions targeting individuals from Putin's inner circle, a special broadcast on Russian state TV said those lists were fed by the very "fifth column" that Putin had mentioned days earlier.
"The lists, in my opinion, are being created in Moscow, among the capital's intelligentsia -- the people who Putin just this Tuesday called a 'fifth column,'" said Dmitry Kiselyov, the head of Russia's newly reorganized information agency, Rossiya Segodnya. "In fact, Putin legalized that term [for use] in the political language of Russia. We know their names. We know how they wrote our names and sent them to these Western embassies."
Of all the governments in the world, only Washington and Zionist Israel have declared themselves to be unaccountable and above law. They are models not of democracy but of tyranny.
Da, da, to je to! To je ta umišljena "posebnost", taj opaki i opasni lažni "ekskluzivitet" o kome buncaju i koji im sa punim pravom spočitava predsjednik Rusije. Cionističkom i američkom "ekskluzivizmu" hladno možemo dodati i tekfirijski (panvehabijski ) ekskluzivizam i ta tri fenomena ( u osnovi jedan) definisati kao političke kancere 21. vijeka.
To je to, vatikanskomasonskomudjahedinska zavEra protiv: (navedi slobodarske i nebeske po zelji)...otkad ovog nije bilo.
5 0 5 wrote:Ma Rusi su beskrupulozni. Oni će sravniti sve pred sobom. Ti nemaju poštovanja prema životu ili bilo čemu. Sjeti se samo kako je Čečenija izgledala. Samo je pitanje koliko će Ukrajinci izdržati. A da će pretrpjeti velike štete, to ne sumnjaj.
Pa da su takvi, ove ukrajinske vojnike iz tzv. kotlova ne bi puštali na slobodu preko svoje teritorije, sugerišući novorusima da ih puste, već bi ih u tim kotlovima lagano skuhali
Pominješ Čečeniju, pa pogledaj američki rad u Iraku, pa zatim pogledaj današnju Čečeniju, a pogledaj i današnji Irak, sve će ti se samo reći...
Usput, prebroji i žrtve koje su posljedica ruske vojne mašinerije van Rusije, a zatim prebroji žrtve koje su posljedica američke vojne mašinerije van USA, garantujem ti da je omjer 1 : 10 000 na strani USA.
Ma dovoljno je Irak i Vijetnam da saberes pa da bude dovoljno da ih rusi ne mogu stici sljedecih 100 godina.
svim proamerikenjcima... 
