Obama i SAD (2008-2016)

[pici]

Samo jos Bosnjake impresionira Amerika. Amerika je u problemima, ekonomskim, vojnim, izgubila je svaki moralni kredibilitet... A od Amerike RS i Srbija ne dobijaju novac, niti je Amerika znacajan trgovinski partnera Srbima, niti Amerika ima vojske u RS a jos se zamjerila Srbiji zbog Kosova...i cak RS treba vise Americi nego Amerika RS-u jer svi bjeze iz Iraka i rijetke su zemlje koje ce tamo poslati u bilo kojoj funkciji vojnike u Irak, a RS ce poslati.

Bosnjacima je izgleda vrijeme stalo 1995 godine i jos uvijek zive u tom vremenu i ne vide da se od tada sve promjenilo, pocevsi od BiH pa do situacije u svijetu.

[in33sa]

Obamina vanjska politika je manje vise jednaka kao i ostalim bivsim americkim predsjednickim kandidatima i predsjednicima, cvrsta podrska Izraelu i jahanje na talasu americkih nacionalnih interesa, pa preko miliona leseva, preko miliona leseva.

Cak je Obama po pitanju podrske Izraelu jedan od radikalnijih, pretpostavljam da su mu Zidovi tusnuli poprilicnu sumu u predizbornu kampanju.

Sve drugo je naglabanje.

[karanana]

sarajevcac brate, glasamo za huseina obamu. on je musliman, ali dobar prijatelj i stranacki kolega od velikog americkog srbina, guvernera drzave illinois roda blagojevicha.
necemo podrzavati mccaina. on je armiji bosne i hercegovine zajedno sa njegovim stranackim drugom bobo dolom htjeo da ukine embargo na oruzje.

[kijameta]

Mene fascinira to bosnjacko samozavaravanje i zivljenje u proslosti. Stalno ocekuju da ce se jednog dana probuditi predsjednici na zapadu i ispuniti sve bosnjacke zelje a prva zelja je ukidanje RS.

Ne ocekujemo mi od zapada da ukine rs,nego samo znak,znakic,isaret a onda mi ukidamo rs golom silom,kao sto je i nastala.
Inace jesi li ti pod uticajem sljive/kruske ili trave/zutog ili te je majka takvog rodila. Ako te je takvog rodila,onda sigurno u tvom selu nisu imali ultrazvuk,jer da su imali,sigurno bi te pobacila.

[pici]

Na Crnom moru NATO vježbe
23.Avg.2008, Izvor: Radio Slobodna Evropa

NATO je započeo "rutinske vježbe" na Crnom moru u koje su uključeni američki, njemački, španski i poljski brodovi."Radi se o posjetama lukama i o rutinskim vježbama koje su odavno planirane", izjavila je glasnogovornica NATO-a ...

budjase majka,ma to se malo prespavalo od 1990

[pici]

Na Crnom moru NATO vježbe
23.Avg.2008, Izvor: Radio Slobodna Evropa

NATO je započeo "rutinske vježbe" na Crnom moru u koje su uključeni američki, njemački, španski i poljski brodovi."Radi se o posjetama lukama i o rutinskim vježbama koje su odavno planirane", izjavila je glasnogovornica NATO-a ...

budjase majka,ma to se malo prespavalo od 1990

NATO je neka vrsta JNA pa jedino moze funkcionirati u miru u slucaju rata, odmah je raspad sistema. Ne mogu naci dovoljno vojnika ni za Irak i Afganistan a kamoli da nadju dovoljno zemalja koje je spremno da se sukobi sa Rusijom.

Basesku:Rumunija na Crnom moru brani granice EU i NATO
15.Avg.2008, Izvor: Kurir

BUKUREŠT, 15.avgusta 2008.(Beta) - Povom dana mornarice, rumunski predsednik Trajan Basesku je izjavio danas da na Crnom moru Rumunija ima izuzetno veliku odgovornost da brani državnu granicu, ali i granicu Evropske unije i NATO. "Rumunija ima obavezu i odgovornost a istovremeno i ponos da predstavlja element bezbednosti na istočnoj granici Evropske unije i NATO" rekao je Basesesku. Prema saopštenju kancelarija za medije predsednika, Basesku je naveo da je potrebno ubrzanje procesa modernizacije rumunske ratne mornarice na nivou njenih obaveza i očekivanja od strane saveznika.


tooooooooooo rumuniiiiiiiiiiiiiii......Bog i Rumuni

[pici]

Četiri decenije od invazije
21.Avg.2008, Izvor: BBC na srpskom

U avgustu 1968. godine oko 200.000 vojnika Varšavskog pakta okupiralo je tadašnju Čehoslovačku. Invazija na Gruziju kod Čeha budi neprijatne uspomene.


toooooooooo Čehooooooooo....Bog i Česi

[kijameta]

Na Crnom moru NATO vježbe
23.Avg.2008, Izvor: Radio Slobodna Evropa

NATO je započeo "rutinske vježbe" na Crnom moru u koje su uključeni američki, njemački, španski i poljski brodovi."Radi se o posjetama lukama i o rutinskim vježbama koje su odavno planirane", izjavila je glasnogovornica NATO-a ...

budjase majka,ma to se malo prespavalo od 1990

NATO je neka vrsta JNA pa jedino moze funkcionirati u miru u slucaju rata, odmah je raspad sistema. Ne mogu naci dovoljno vojnika ni za Irak i Afganistan a kamoli da nadju dovoljno zemalja koje je spremno da se sukobi sa Rusijom.

Pa gdje si se ti dosad sakrivao. Ti si meni Tito. Trebao bi ti na audiciju za kakvu humoristicku emisiju. Da se smejemo.

[komandant mark]

evo liste savjetnika obame i mccaina prema washington postu:

Barack Obama

Former Amb. Jeffrey Bader, President Clinton’s National Security Council Asia specialist and now head of Brookings’s China center, national security adviser

Mark Brzezinski, President Clinton’s National Security Council Southeast Europe specialist and now a partner at law firm McGuireWoods, national security adviser

Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Carter’s national security adviser and now a Center for Strategic and International Studies counselor and trustee and frequent guest on PBS’s NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, foreign policy adviser

Richard A. Clarke, President Clinton and President George W. Bush’s counterterrorism czar and now head of Good Harbor Consulting and an ABC News contributor, sometimes Obama adviser

Gregory B. Craig, State Department director of policy planning under President Clinton and now a partner at law firm Williams & Connolly, foreign policy adviser

Roger W. Cressey, former National Security Council counterterrorism staffer and now Good Harbor Consulting president and NBC News consultant, has advised Obama but says not exclusive

Ivo H. Daalder, National Security Council director for European affairs during President Clinton’s administration and now a Brookings senior fellow, foreign policy adviser

Richard Danzig, President Clinton’s Navy secretary and now a Center for Strategic and International Analysis fellow, national security adviser

Philip H. Gordon, President Clinton’s National Security Council staffer for Europe and now a Brookings senior fellow, national security adviser

Maj. Gen. J. (Jonathan) Scott Gration, a 32-year Air Force veteran and now CEO of Africa anti-poverty effort Millennium Villages, national security adviser and surrogate

Lawrence J. Korb, assistant secretary of defense from 1981-1985 and now a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, informal foreign policy adviser

W. Anthony Lake, President Clinton’s national security adviser and now a professor at Georgetown’s school of foreign service, foreign policy adviser

James M. Ludes, former defense and foreign policy adviser to Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., and now executive director of the American Security Project, national security adviser

Robert Malley, President Clinton’s Middle East envoy and now International Crisis Group’s Middle East and North Africa program director, national security adviser

Gen. Merrill A. ("Tony") McPeak, former Air Force chief of staff and now a business consultant, national security adviser

Denis McDonough, Center for American Progress senior fellow and former policy adviser to then-Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle, foreign policy coordinator

Samantha Power, Harvard-based human rights scholar and Pulitzer Prize winning writer, foreign policy adviser

Susan E. Rice, President Clinton’s Africa specialist at the State Department and National Security Council and now a Brookings senior fellow, foreign policy adviser

Bruce O. Riedel, former CIA officer and National Security Council staffer for Near East and Asian affairs and now a Brookings senior fellow, national security adviser

Dennis B. Ross, President Clinton’s Middle East negotiator and now a Washington Institute for Near East Policy fellow, Middle East adviser

Sarah Sewall, deputy assistant secretary of defense for peacekeeping and humanitarian assistance during President Clinton’s administration and now director of Harvard’s Carr Center for Human Rights Policy, national security adviser

Daniel B. Shapiro, National Security Council director for legislative affairs during President Clinton’s administration and now a lobbyist with Timmons & Company, Middle East adviser

Mona Sutphen, former aide to President Clinton’s National Security adviser Samuel R. Berger and to United Nations ambassador Bill Richardson and now managing director of business consultancy Stonebridge, national security adviser
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/op ... wonks.html

John McCain

Richard Lee Armitage, President George W. Bush’s deputy secretary of state and an international business consultant and lobbyist, informal foreign policy adviser

Bernard Aronson, former assistant secretary of state for inter-American affairs and now a managing partner of private equity investment company ACON Investments, informal foreign policy adviser

William L. Ball III, secretary of the Navy during President Reagan’s administration and managing director of lobbying firm the Loeffler Group, informal national security adviser

Stephen E. Biegun, former national security aide to then-Sen. Bill Frist, R-Tenn., and now Ford Motors vice president of international government affairs, informal national security adviser

Max Boot, Council on Foreign Relations editor and former Wall Street Journal editorial editor, foreign policy adviser

Brig. Gen. Tom Bruner, Iowa veterans advisory committee

Lorne W. Craner, International Republican Institute president, informal foreign policy adviser

Lawrence S. Eagleburger, President George H.W. Bush’s secretary of state and a senior public policy adviser with law firm Baker Donelson, endorsed McCain April 10

Brig. Gen. Russ Eggers, Iowa veterans advisory committee

Maj. Gen. Merrill Evans, Iowa veterans advisory committee

Niall Ferguson, Harvard historian and Hoover Institution senior fellow, informal foreign policy adviser

Michael J. Green, former Asia adviser to President George W. Bush and now Japan chair at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Asia policy adviser

Gen. Alexander M. Haig, Jr., President Reagan’s secretary of state, endorsed McCain April 10

Maj. Gen. Evan "Curly" Hultman, Iowa veterans advisory committee

Robert Kagan; senior associate with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Washington Post columnist and former speechwriter for then-secretary of state George P. Shultz; informal foreign policy adviser

Brig. Gen. Robert Michael Kimmitt, current deputy Treasury secretary, informal national security adviser

Henry A. Kissinger, President Nixon and President Ford’s secretary of state who met McCain in Vietnam and is now a consultant, informal adviser

Col. Andrew F. Krepinevich, president of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, briefed McCain as well as Sen. Hillary Clinton and Gov. Bill Richardson

William Kristol, The Weekly Standard editor, informal foreign policy adviser

Adm. Charles Larson, former superintendent of the U.S. Naval Academy and now chairman of consulting firm ViaGlobal Group, informal national security adviser

Robert "Bud" McFarlane, President Reagan’s national security adviser and now a principal with Energy & Communications Solutions, energy and national security adviser

Brig. Gen. Warren "Bud" Nelson, Iowa veterans advisory committee

Brig. Gen. Eddie Newman, Iowa veterans advisory committee

Maj. Gen. John Peppers, Iowa veterans advisory committee

Maj. Ralph Peters, writer and retired Army officer, informal national security adviser

Brig. Gen. Maurice Phillips, Iowa veterans advisory committee

Gen. Colin L. Powell, President George W. Bush’s secretary of state, informal foreign policy adviser

James R. Schlesinger, President Nixon and President Ford’s secretary of defense, energy and national security adviser

Randy Scheunemann, national security aide to then-Senate Majority Leaders Bob Dole and Trent Lott and now a lobbyist, defense and foreign policy coordinator (for this cycle and 2000)

Gary Schmitt, former staff director of the Senate Intelligence Committee and now an American Enterprise Institute scholar, foreign policy adviser

Lt. Gen. Brent Scowcroft, national security adviser to Presidents Ford and George H.W. Bush and founder of business consultancy the Scowcroft Group, adviser

George P. Shultz, President Reagan’s secretary of state and a Hoover Institution Fellow, endorsed McCain April 10

Brig. Gen. W.L. "Bill" Wallace, Iowa veterans advisory committee

Maj. Gen. Gary Wattnem, Iowa veterans advisory committee

R. James Woolsey, former CIA director and now a vice president at consulting company Booz Allen Hamilton, energy and national security adviser

[karanana]

e simpatiso sam mccaina ali kad sam vidio na listi eaglebergera i kissingera....

[izzy131]

Biden je u Senatu SAD proveo više od 30 godina, a trenutno predsjedava veoma uticajnim Komitetom za vanjskopolitičke odnose.

http://www.sarajevo-x.com/clanak/080823014

He is known as a strong orator and chairs the Foreign Relations Committee - something analysts say would balance Mr Obama's self-confessed lack of foreign policy experience.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7578136.stm

Nije da nije nebitno. Odlican potez za unutrasnju predizbornu upotrebu na potiskivanju McCaina sa podrucja vanjske politike, no ne govori nista o samoj Obaminoj vanjskoj politici. To ce se vidjet tek poslije. Sama pojava i nacin govora Obame bi mogla znaciti drugaciji stav prema svijetu, ali izbor savjetnika govori da nece biti bas tako. No vidjecemo.

[Zah]

Malo opsirnije. Po mom misljenju dobar izbor.
http://www.vecernji.hr/newsroom/news/in ... 8/index.do

[izzy131]

Za BiH bi ovo moglo zvucati dobro, covjek je upoznat s prilikama

Pro-Muslim U.S. Senator Stokes Flames of the Anti-Serbian Campaign
Recently, a prime Serb-hater and Albanian Muslim lobbyist, Senator Joseph Biden of the obsessively anti-Serb Council on Foreign Relations, was given ample space by equally Serbophobic Financial Times to do some more pro-Muslim lobbying, while underlining his unwavering support for further destruction of Serbian state.
(...)
Among Serbs, however, Joe Biden is best known as the man who sponsored the March 23, 1999 Senate resolution authorizing Clinton to bomb Serbia and will remain permanently ingrained in our collective memory for characterizing Serbian nation as “...a bunch of illiterates, degenerates, baby killers, butchers and rapists” — a hateful outburst and a fascist tirade on CNN’s Larry King Live that was left without a comment, reprimand or any semblance of apology, to date.

http://byzantinesacredart.com/blog/2007 ... biden.html

Working for Peace and Justice in the Balkans

When Joe Biden sees atrocities in the world, he acts to put a stop to them. Joe Biden will continue his record of promoting peace and justice as he did when he called for U.S. intervention in the Balkans in the 1990s. Joe Biden’s efforts to bring US intervention helped Bosnians and Kosovars find and keep peace.

http://www.joebiden.com/home.php/issues ... relations/

[Fratris]

Biden je veliki prijatelj Bosne. Mnogi se ne sjecaju tih vremena, ali kad je pocetkom 90ih predsjedavao Sudskim Komitetom u senatu, bio je najglasniji za intervenciju, za skidanje embarga, vec tad je castio Milosevica epitetom "ratni zlocinac." A sjecam se i tog gostavanja na Larry Kingu.

[Fratris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7kIBve-LnY

Nema s ovim zajebancije.

Kako izvaka ovog vlaha o Kosovu i Bosni.

[kijameta]

Za BiH bi ovo moglo zvucati dobro, covjek je upoznat s prilikama

Pro-Muslim U.S. Senator Stokes Flames of the Anti-Serbian Campaign
Recently, a prime Serb-hater and Albanian Muslim lobbyist, Senator Joseph Biden of the obsessively anti-Serb Council on Foreign Relations, was given ample space by equally Serbophobic Financial Times to do some more pro-Muslim lobbying, while underlining his unwavering support for further destruction of Serbian state.
(...)
Among Serbs, however, Joe Biden is best known as the man who sponsored the March 23, 1999 Senate resolution authorizing Clinton to bomb Serbia and will remain permanently ingrained in our collective memory for characterizing Serbian nation as “...a bunch of illiterates, degenerates, baby killers, butchers and rapists” — a hateful outburst and a fascist tirade on CNN’s Larry King Live that was left without a comment, reprimand or any semblance of apology, to date.

http://byzantinesacredart.com/blog/2007 ... biden.html

Working for Peace and Justice in the Balkans

When Joe Biden sees atrocities in the world, he acts to put a stop to them. Joe Biden will continue his record of promoting peace and justice as he did when he called for U.S. intervention in the Balkans in the 1990s. Joe Biden’s efforts to bring US intervention helped Bosnians and Kosovars find and keep peace.

http://www.joebiden.com/home.php/issues ... relations/

Lik je fakat dobar poznavalac Balkana i Srba.

[jeza u ledja]

Hehe, evo sad Obama drzi govor predstavljajuci po prvi put svog VP i kaze Biden looked in the eye of Slobodan Milosevic and called him a war criminal.

Helem, mislim da ce Biden moci privuci 'blue collar' glasace, svojom retorikom, prizemnoscu, a bogami i agresivnoscu. Mnogi od tih glasaca su navijali za Clintonovu. Plus Biden ima fantasticno poznavanje spoljne politike (npr. neki dan je bio u Gruziji, prije bilo koga drugog). Nekako je do sada Obama stajao sam na vrhu, mnogi nisu imali povjerenje u to sta bi on mogao uraditi. Ovako sa Bidenom dobija jaku podlogu koju najlakse prepoznaje radnicka klasa koji su baza Demokrata.

[ahuseino]

hehe

http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/caro ... 99439.aspx

Sve su to počeli prepoznavati i američki birači, barem ako je suditi prema anketama koje pokazuju sve tješnju i po McCaina povoljniju predsjedničku utrku. U ovom dijelu svijeta bi današnja zbivanja u Americi mogla izazvati asocijacije na jednu drugu izbornu trku i političara koji se nazivao "hrvatskim Obamom". Kako stvari stoje, scenarij u kojem stranački trijumf novog, svježeg lica služi tek kao uvertira u fijasko na općim izborima bi se mogao primijeniti i s onu stranu Velike bare. A, s obzirom da je Joseph Biden u svojoj dugoj karijeri stvorio reputaciju "stroja za gafove", moglo bi se reći da je američki Milanović dobio svog Jurčića.

Sve sami struchnjaci... te ankete, te fijasko...

[hik--meta]

cini mi se da je generalno anti-obama raspolozenje nazalost puno izrazenije zadnjih dana otkad sam se vratila ovamo, barem u atlanti, nego sto je bilo kad sam otisla za rajvosa prije dva mjeseca. cak ga i neke crnkinje koje znam kritikuju da je posro pa polizo u par stvari, a gledale su ga ko boga proljetos.
samo steta sto nije uzeo hillary za vp-ja, mada ni biden nije los.

nego, zna li ko kako stoje stvari ako se husi sta desi do novembra, jel biden bira podpredsjednika za kampanju, ili se ide po primaries rezultatima?

[jeza u ledja]

cini mi se da je generalno anti-obama raspolozenje nazalost puno izrazenije zadnjih dana otkad sam se vratila ovamo, barem u atlanti, nego sto je bilo kad sam otisla za rajvosa prije dva mjeseca. cak ga i neke crnkinje koje znam kritikuju da je posro pa polizo u par stvari, a gledale su ga ko boga proljetos.
samo steta sto nije uzeo hillary za vp-ja, mada ni biden nije los.

nego, zna li ko kako stoje stvari ako se husi sta desi do novembra, jel biden bira podpredsjednika za kampanju, ili se ide po primaries rezultatima?

Ne znam zasigurno, ali mislim da bi novi kandidat bila Hillary.

Slicno se desilo mensecini 1968(?) kad je jedan od predsjednickih kandidata u demokratskim prajmariz bio Robert Kennedy i nakon sto je izgledalo da ce pobjediti u istim nego ga je ubio, te je na njegovo mjesto dosao....uff, ne mogu se sjetiti imena, ali valjda lik koji je bio drugi u prajmariz. (Mada ja mislim u trenutku kad je R. Kennedy ubijen prajmariz jos nisu bile gotove, cak nisam ni siguran da li je on vodio).

[jeza u ledja]

Obama/Biden
----------------------
Osama/Bi(nLa)den


Svaka slicnost je namjerna.

[ahuseino]

Huske je sad bio malo pauzirao sa PR.
O'so na Havaje na odmor... Ha ja... sta treba.

Mozda je zbog toga malo sletio u zadnje dvije sedmice; ovo sranje u S. Osetiji i Abhaziji nije mu pomoglo, jer Ameri vole chut' "strong" positions.

Al' ja mislim da je to samo privremeno.

Biden je totalno najbolji izbor sto je mogao napraviti.

Da je uzeo Hilku, ja bi se ozbiljno zamislio bil' glasao uopste.

[jeza u ledja]

Trojica ljudi uhapseni danas u Denveru optuzeni da su planirali atentat na Baracka Obamu. Nathan Johnson, Tharin Gartrell and Shawn Adolf povezani su 'white-supremacy' organizacijama.
Jedan od njih zaustavljen je na cesti, a u kolima je imao kako sam shvatio snajper ili veliku kolicinu municije. Planirali su da ga upucaju u cetvrtak kada bude drze govor (uz prijenos uzivo) na stadionu pred 70000 ljudi.

Evo slike jednog od njih

[jeza u ledja]

WASHINGTON — Three men who authorities feared were plotting to assassinate Barack Obama at the Democratic National Convention are facing only gun charges — a signal that officials believe they never posed a real threat.

A federal law enforcement official in Denver said Tuesday the three men and woman arrested Sunday are not expected to be charged with making threatening statements, conspiracy or other national security-related crimes.

It's possible — but unlikely — that additional charges could come later, the official said.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because charges have not yet been filed. U.S. Attorney Troy Eid has said the suspects posed no credible threat to Obama, the convention or others in Denver.


Tharin Gartrell who was arrested during a traffic stop early Sunday.

[dallton]

cini mi se da je generalno anti-obama raspolozenje nazalost puno izrazenije zadnjih dana otkad sam se vratila ovamo, barem u atlanti, nego sto je bilo kad sam otisla za rajvosa prije dva mjeseca. cak ga i neke crnkinje koje znam kritikuju da je posro pa polizo u par stvari, a gledale su ga ko boga proljetos.
samo steta sto nije uzeo hillary za vp-ja, mada ni biden nije los.

nego, zna li ko kako stoje stvari ako se husi sta desi do novembra, jel biden bira podpredsjednika za kampanju, ili se ide po primaries rezultatima?

Ti se hikmeta za husu ne sekiraj, McCain je od sebe otudjio i veliku vecinu republikanaca jer njima se bas i ne provodi ono za sta se McCain fola zalaze, oni samo cekaju da se ispale, stara republikanska strategija - napravi sranje, pa pusti demokrate da rjesavaju:) ako huse zagine (ne daj boze) hillary uskace odmah, jer je po pravilima demokrata ona rezervni igrac u slucaju da se glavnom kandidatu nesto desi....ali to nikako ne bi valjalo ..... a Jo Biden, mimo ove rasprave oko BiH, ima puno vecu podrsku medju glasacima nego ijedan republikanski kandidatat, posebno medju blue collars i left leaning liberals (sto ce reci podrska u californiji, ny, distriktu, state of washington, florida i jos par manjih drzava koje su nagrabusile tokom ekonomske krize, posto je bush uprskao do kraja sa forsiranjem velikih kompanija i fola smanjenjem poreza i privatizacijom medicinskog osiguranja....go Obama, go Biden