Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Mikado wrote:Nekontam sta HAMAS misli postici raketiranjem Izraelskih gradova, krvoprolice na svojim narodom ?
Covjece koji ste vi monstrumi. Zar nije dovoljno reci stop ubijanju djece i civila. Pola vas bi tebalo dozivjeti istu sudbinu!!!
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generalcina wrote:
Mikado wrote:Nekontam sta HAMAS misli postici raketiranjem Izraelskih gradova, krvoprolice na svojim narodom ?
Covjece koji ste vi monstrumi. Zar nije dovoljno reci stop ubijanju djece i civila. Pola vas bi tebalo dozivjeti istu sudbinu!!!
Slazem se... kako ljudi ne kontaju, da ljudi oduvjek daju i da ce posten covjek uvjek dati i posljednju kap krvi za svoju slobodu...
Ima jedna stvar koja se zove "ponos"...e zbog te stvari Hamasovci pokusavaju postici sa tim svojim rakatama a to je FREEDOM.
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Kako neko ko je bio tokom rata u BiH može opravdavati Izraelske zločine, hamasovim raketiranjem???
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BarbaDue wrote:
generalcina wrote:
Mikado wrote:Nekontam sta HAMAS misli postici raketiranjem Izraelskih gradova, krvoprolice na svojim narodom ?
Covjece koji ste vi monstrumi. Zar nije dovoljno reci stop ubijanju djece i civila. Pola vas bi tebalo dozivjeti istu sudbinu!!!
Slazem se... kako ljudi ne kontaju, da ljudi oduvjek daju i da ce posten covjek uvjek dati i posljednju kap krvi za svoju slobodu...
Ima jedna stvar koja se zove "ponos"...e zbog te stvari Hamasovci pokusavaju postici sa tim svojim rakatama a to je FREEDOM.
Jasno je to sto govoris, ali nejasno je na koji nacin nasumicno raketiranje civilnih ciljeva po Izraelu pridonosi tom cilju?
Na isti nacin nejasno je kako izraelsko masakriranje civila po Gazi pridonosi njihovoj sigurnosti?
Isto kao sto nije bilo jasno na koji nacin je srpsko masakriranje civila granatama i snajperima po Sarajevu i ostalim gradovima doprinosilo borbi cetnika.....a za sta su se ono uopste borili??? Ah da, cilj im je bio ubiti i protjerati sto vise neSrba. Prenesi to na palestinski sukob i imas potpuno iste odgovore, potpuno istu mrznju i potpuno istu zlu, neshvatljivu i unaprijed osudjenu na propast ideologiju. I onda shvatis da to sto ti mislis ili bi zelio da im je cilj - to nije.
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pogledah ja onaj intervju sa Hamdanom i, sto se mene tice, kredibilitet voditelja je evaporirao nakon onoliko sekundi koliko mu je trebalo da izusti prvo pitanje. price o objektivnosti i potrebi za konstantnim iznosenjem "dvije" strane price su u ovom slucaju najobicnija glupost. ovdje i danas se ne radi o neredima na stadionu ili kafanskoj tuci pa da ja sad trebam slusati i razglabati ko je prvi kome sta uradio i ko je sta prvi rekao. kristalno je jasno da je u pitanju organizirani zlocin nad civilnim stanovnistvom od strane cetvrte po snazi vojne sile u svijetu. uglavnom, nakon oko 700 mrtvih ljudi u Palestini, od toga preko 200 djece, 3000 povrijedjenih, kompletne Gaze (preko milijun ljudi!) u paralizi bez hrane, vode, struje, gasa, lijekova, medicinskih sredstava (da ne nabrajam vise cega sve tamo nema), djece koja sjede danima pored mrtvih matera u rusevinama, ubijenog vozaca UN-ovog kamiona koji je dovozio humanitarnu pomoc, i TO SVE SAMO I ISKLJUCIVO KAO REZULTAT POSTUPAKA I AKCIJA izraela, prvo pitanje koje voditelj postavlja je: Hoce li Hamas prestati ispaljivati rakete na izrael? molim?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!!?! to prvo pitanje?! you gotta be fucking kidding me. pitanje je formulirano i tempirano tako da je Hamas odgovoran za sve ovo (a ne izrael koji zlocin cini) i ako bi oni stali sa ispaljivanjem raketa nista od ovog se ne bi desilo. tenkovi bi se u roku 3 sekunde okrenuli, avioni stali s bombardiranjem a vojska bi se povukla. pa bi se onda se vratilo na staro. izrael bi bio siguran a Gaza u TOTALNOJ BLOKADI u kakvoj je i bila mjesecima prije izraelske okupacije (ove zadnje - onu permanentnu okupaciju niko osim palestinaca u medijima ne spominje). ostatak intervjua ne bih komentirala, ovo mi je bilo dosta.
a te price, cak i tog gore navedenog voditelja, kako on ista ovakva pitanja postavlja izraelskim predstavnicima :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) to samo budala moze uzeti ozbiljno a ne znam opisati osobu (u okviru diskursa dozvoljenog na forumu) koja u to moze povjerovati.

a,evo, za one sto vole razne izvore i razna misljenja informacije i misljenja.

January 8, 2009
The Real Goal of the Israeli Invasion?
Re-settling Gaza

By LINDA MAMOUN

Israel's "Operation Cast Lead" is reported to have overwhelming support among the Israeli public, but few are as enthusiastic as the former residents of the Israeli settlements in Gaza. As tens of thousands of Israeli troops descend on Gaza in an apocalyptic frenzy, scores of determined settlers are prepared to enter in their wake.

The Gaza settlements were dismantled in August 2005 as part of former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's disengagement plan. In a single stroke, the Israeli army removed 8,000 people from the Gush Katif settlement bloc in the southwest corner of the Gaza Strip near the Egyptian border and from four smaller settlements in northern and central Gaza.

In spirit, many of the Gaza settlers never left the coveted Palestinian territory on the Mediterranean coast. Despite ample compensation from the Israeli government, many have chosen to live in nearby caravan camps in desert towns between Ashdod and Ashkelon, clustered with families from the same settlement of origin. Most of the settlers didn't pack before they were escorted out of their compounds, not believing that the Israeli government would permanently expel them. Some have posted the road signs identifying their old settlements in their camps.

The evacuees have reportedly suffered from high rates of divorce, drug abuse and other problem behavior. Imbued with messianic zeal, for the last three-and-a-half years, they have been mobilizing to resettle the land they believe is theirs by divine right.

Settler activists are counting on their historically strong ties to the Israeli military, with some units composed entirely of settlers, to help in their fight. Indeed, some soldiers and reservists currently in Gaza were there three years ago living in cherished settlement communities. On Monday, an article in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz described the bittersweet reactions of soldiers who had lived in Gaza settlements and are now back in uniform, noting, "Some see it as a first step toward returning to their former homes."

Earlier this year, Haaretz reported on settlers' plans to follow the Israeli army into Gaza. Boaz Haetzni, a leader of the settler movement, explained, "In our estimation the 'big operation' is only a matter of time; we will follow them in. We will not ask for permission from anyone. The [settlement] groups will be ready ... These core groups will do exactly what the group that re-established Kfar Etzion did after 1967. They will return to the lands where they existed in the past and will rebuild them."

Kfar Etzion was the first Israeli settlement established in the West Bank after the end of the Six Day War and is now part of a large bloc of settlements connecting Jerusalem to Hebron.

In August, settlers and their supporters commemorated the third anniversary of the Gaza evacuation at the Great Synagogue in Jerusalem. The event featured music, prayers, testimonials and updates from volunteers assisting the Gush Katif "refugees." A flyer promoting the event highlighted a biblical passage: "And the threefold cord is not easily broken" (Kohelet 4:12), a reference to the strength of the bond tying the Gush Katif settlers to one another and to the support they receive from the broader community of supporters in Israel and abroad.

The program was similar to "A Tribute To Hebron," an event held at the Great Synagogue in late December. This event, organized by http://www.thelandofisrael.com, was a fundraiser for the Beit Hashalom settlers, who were evicted earlier in the month from their illegally occupied house in the heart of Hebron. The night included live music, comedy sketches and a speech by former Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. Danny Ayalon, a prominent leader of the settler movement.

Both events reflect the pattern that has emerged over the last several decades. After Palestinian land is seized by the Israeli army, settlements are established, connected to Israel's electricity, water and security system, and aggressively marketed to potential residents. Today, Israeli settlements and the state security apparatus cover over 40 percent of the West Bank. Nearly half a million Israelis live in settlements in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, all of which are considered illegal under international law.

As with the unilateral disengagement from Gaza, the Israeli government occasionally dismantles overly controversial settlements, amid great fanfare, but new settlements continue to be built and existing ones expanded. In the three years since the state of Israel removed its settlers from Gaza soil, it has authorized the construction of thousands of new housing units for West Bank and East Jerusalem settlements. To make room for these settlements, thousands of Palestinian homes have been demolished, and in East Jerusalem, entire Palestinian neighborhoods are still being cleared. According to the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, 19,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished since 1967. All the while, mainstream political elements decry "radical" settlers as violent extremists even as they celebrate their achievements and help establish new colonies.

Israelis differentiate between "economic settlers," those who move to the occupied territories for subsidized housing and a better "quality of life," and "ideological settlers," nationalists who seek to establish a "Greater Israel" from the Mediterranean to the Jordan River. But the distinction is overstated. Residents of the large suburban settlements that encircle Jerusalem (Ma'ale Adumim, Pisgat Ze'ev, etc.) are embedded in social networks that include radical leaders from the so-called ideological settlements (Gush Etzion, Kiryat Arba, Hebron and the smaller outposts). And many suburban settlers have an intensely militant outlook, feeling themselves to be under siege just as they view the Gush Katif and Hebron "refugees" as demonized and besieged.

For the Beit Hashalom supporters the mood at the Great Synagogue in late December was jubilant, coming just days after the settlers' zealous stand against the Israeli army and with plenty of time to implement what they refer to as their new "price tag" policy of payback for evacuations carried out by the Israeli army and police.

In Hebron, as elsewhere, the price tag has come in the form of fiery pogroms against Palestinians. According to a recent United Nations report, there has been a surge in Israeli settler violence across the West Bank, with at least 290 incidents of violence against Palestinians documented between January and October 2008.

The increase in violence may be related to the "price tag" policy, but the settlers' strategy reflects nothing new: the price Palestinians have paid throughout Israel's 60-year history is incalculable in economic, social and demographic terms.

Nonetheless, because of their humiliating departure from Gaza and years of displacement, the Gush Katif settlers believe they have paid the greatest price. Not a day seems to go by without media coverage of their plight. On Dec. 31 the Jerusalem Post published an editorial on Hamas rocket attacks by Rachel Saperstein, a settler from Gush Katif who lamented, "From our homes in Gush Katif to cardboard caravillas in a refugee camp to a sewer pipe. We have certainly hit rock bottom." On the same day, Arutz Sheva, a right-wing Internet news site, published an editorial by Nadia Matar that calls for Israel to "free Gaza from its Arab occupation ... and rebuild the 25 beautiful Jewish communities of Gush Katif."

Although government agencies have attempted to move the former residents of Gush Katif to new settlements in the West Bank and the Negev, most have stayed in southern Israel, waiting for their day of return to resurrected Jewish enclaves in the ravaged Gaza Strip.

That day, and the promise of redemption revived by Israel's bloody price tag policy in Gaza, draws closer with each hour of "Operation Cast Lead."

Linda Mamoun is a freelance writer in East Jerusalem

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radim sa zenom kojoj je rodbina bila u gazi dok ih nisu istjerali prije par godina. ti 'zealots' koji su istjerani se nadaju da ce se vratiti u dijelove gaze (a bezbeli potajno se i nadaju da ce citava gaza postati njihova), jer su tu neke od najstarijih sinagoga...nesto slicno kao srbi i kosovo.
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jeza u ledja wrote:
BarbaDue wrote:
generalcina wrote:Nekontam sta HAMAS misli postici raketiranjem Izraelskih gradova, krvoprolice na svojim narodom ?

Covjece koji ste vi monstrumi. Zar nije dovoljno reci stop ubijanju djece i civila. Pola vas bi tebalo dozivjeti istu sudbinu!!!
Slazem se... kako ljudi ne kontaju, da ljudi oduvjek daju i da ce posten covjek uvjek dati i posljednju kap krvi za svoju slobodu...
Ima jedna stvar koja se zove "ponos"...e zbog te stvari Hamasovci pokusavaju postici sa tim svojim rakatama a to je FREEDOM.
Jasno je to sto govoris, ali nejasno je na koji nacin nasumicno raketiranje civilnih ciljeva po Izraelu pridonosi tom cilju?
Na isti nacin nejasno je kako izraelsko masakriranje civila po Gazi pridonosi njihovoj sigurnosti?
Isto kao sto nije bilo jasno na koji nacin je srpsko masakriranje civila granatama i snajperima po Sarajevu i ostalim gradovima doprinosilo borbi cetnika.....a za sta su se ono uopste borili??? Ah da, cilj im je bio ubiti i protjerati sto vise neSrba. Prenesi to na palestinski sukob i imas potpuno iste odgovore, potpuno istu mrznju i potpuno istu zlu, neshvatljivu i unaprijed osudjenu na propast ideologiju. I onda shvatis da to sto ti mislis ili bi zelio da im je cilj - to nije.

Izgleda da moram bukvalno da ti objasnim, ti(židov) i ja(palestinac) smo susjedi i cesto se srecemo. Kad god se sretnemo ti mi opalis čvoku, klempu ili zavrnes ruku, ja ti ponekad kamenom razbijem prozor ili probusim gumu na automobilu...I tako opet ti mene sretnes ali sad mi vise ne udaraš čvrgove sad si vec poceo da me šamaraš i tako danima i danima...cak si i jaranima rekao da mi zabrane da prolazim ispred njihove zgrade i oni me maltretiraju. Danima trpim, moji prijatelji ne smiju da mi pomognu jer znaju da si grmalj i da ces i njih poceti da maltretiras, oni ostaju po strani radi svog mira. Jednog dana ti mene sretnes i toliko pocnes da me maltretiras i ponizavas da ja odlucim da ti kamenom razbijem glavu. Međutim promašim te i pocnem da bjezim, ti me brzo uhvatis i toliko pocnes da tuces da to nije humano, pocinjem toliko da krvarim da to postaje preopasno!!!
Eh sad dolazimo do onog glavnog, ti toliko mene tuces ali ja to trpim i trpim ali (vidim da nema drugog izlaza vec ici do kraja) pokusavam da te po cijenu da me ubijes na smrt udarim i to mi napokon uspjeva....znam da ce mi to donijeti vjerovatno smrt ali nema veze, bar sam i ja tebe bar jednom udario, onako muški... pa nek odmah umrem :-D
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Code of Conduct
In 1992, the IDF drafted a Code of Conduct that is a combination of international law, Israeli law, Jewish heritage and the IDF's own traditional ethical code—the IDF Spirit (Hebrew: רוח צה"ל‎, Ru'ah Tzahal).[15]


[edit] Stated values of the IDF
The document defines three core values for all IDF soldiers to follow, as well as ten secondary values (the first being most important, and the others being sorted in Hebrew alphabetical order):[15]

Core values
Defense of the State, its Citizens and its Residents - "The IDF's goal is to defend the existence of the State of Israel, its independence and the security of the citizens and residents of the state."
Love of the Homeland and Loyalty to the Country - "At the core of service in the IDF stand the love of the homeland and the commitment and devotion to the State of Israel-a democratic state that serves as a national home for the Jewish People-its citizens and residents."
Human Dignity - "The IDF and its soldiers are obligated to protect human dignity. Every human being is of value regardless of his or her origin, religion, nationality, gender, status or position."
Other values
Tenacity of Purpose in Performing Missions and Drive to Victory - "The IDF servicemen and women will fight and conduct themselves with courage in the face of all dangers and obstacles; They will persevere in their missions resolutely and thoughtfully even to the point of endangering their lives."
Responsibility - "The IDF servicemen or women will see themselves as active participants in the defense of the state, its citizens and residents. They will carry out their duties at all times with initiative, involvement and diligence with common sense and within the framework of their authority, while prepared to bear responsibility for their conduct."
Credibility - "The IDF servicemen and women shall present things objectively, completely and precisely, in planning, performing and reporting. They will act in such a manner that their peers and commanders can rely upon them in performing their tasks."
Personal Example - "The IDF servicemen and women will comport themselves as required of them, and will demand of themselves as they demand of others, out of recognition of their ability and responsibility within the military and without to serve as a deserving role model."
Human Life - "The IDF servicemen and women will act in a judicious and safe manner in all they do, out of recognition of the supreme value of human life. During combat they will endanger themselves and their comrades only to the extent required to carry out their mission."
Purity of Arms - "The soldier shall make use of his weaponry and power only for the fulfillment of the mission and solely to the extent required; he will maintain his humanity even in combat. The soldier shall not employ his weaponry and power in order to harm non-combatants or prisoners of war, and shall do all he can to avoid harming their lives, body, honor and property."
Professionalism - "The IDF servicemen and women will acquire the professional knowledge and skills required to perform their tasks, and will implement them while striving continuously to perfect their personal and collective achievements."
Discipline - "The IDF servicemen and women will strive to the best of their ability to fully and successfully complete all that is required of them according to orders and their spirit. IDF soldiers will be meticulous in giving only lawful orders, and shall refrain from obeying blatantly illegal orders."
Comradeship - "The IDF servicemen and women will act out of fraternity and devotion to their comrades, and will always go to their assistance when they need their help or depend on them, despite any danger or difficulty, even to the point of risking their lives."
Sense of Mission - "The IDF soldiers view their service in the IDF as a mission; They will be ready to give their all in order to defend the state, its citizens and residents. This is due to the fact that they are representatives of the IDF who act on the basis and in the framework of the authority given to them in accordance with IDF orders."

Code of Conduct against militants and Palestinian civilians
Recently,[when?] a team of professors, commanders and former judges, led by the holder of the Ethics chair at Tel Aviv University, Professor Asa Kasher, developed a code of conduct which emphasizes the right behavior in low intensity warfare against terrorists, where soldiers must operate within a civilian population. Reserve units and regular units alike are taught the following eleven rules of conduct, which are an addition to the more general IDF Spirit:

Military action can be taken only against military targets.
The use of force must be proportional.
Soldiers may only use weaponry they were issued by the IDF.
Anyone who surrenders cannot be attacked.
Only those who are properly trained can interrogate prisoners.
Soldiers must accord dignity and respect to the Palestinian population and those arrested.
Soldiers must give appropriate medical care, when conditions allow, to oneself and one's enemy.
Pillaging is absolutely and totally illegal.
Soldiers must show proper respect for religious and cultural sites and artifacts.
Soldiers must protect international aid workers, including their property and vehicles.
Soldiers must report all violations of this code.
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da sada su ubili 21 bolnicara
iako su u jarko crvenim bojama i sa oznakama za crveni polumjesec
juce prikazuju kako je snajperista ranio jednog bolnicara u nogu,dok je ovaj pokusavao da izvuce zrtvu
i to je sve snimio spanski volonter iz ambulante
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fukara_tz wrote:Sarajevo danas ispred ambasade USA, majke Srebrenice, clanice Udruzenja "Zene zrtva rata" itd itd

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Demonstracije su odrzane sirom svijeta : od Sudana do Juznoafricke republike, od Filipina, preko Indonezije, Pakistana i Indije, do Venecuele i Argentine. O evropskim gradovima da ne govorimo.

Svijet je veliko selo.
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Vijeće sigurnosti Ujedinjenih naroda traži hitan prekid vatre u Gazi poslije kojeg bi uslijedilo potpuno izraelsko povlačenje.
Četrnaest od petnaest članica Vijeća glasalo je za rezoluciju koju je sastavila Velika Britanija. Sjedinjene Države su se uzdržale od glasanja.

Napokon!!!

Nazalost morao je stradati neko iz UN-a da bi se ovo desilo.
Jos jednom se pokazalo da svaki ljudski zivot nije jednako vrijedan.
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Koja su ovi amerikanci govna... Suzdrzani kod poziva na prekid vatre... I to jedva, danima su se protivili tome. Sutra kad im se neko od ovih kojima su pobijene cijele porodice, digne u zrak u sred NY, pitati "sta smo im mi krivi"...
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zgembo_sa wrote:Koja su ovi amerikanci govna... Suzdrzani kod poziva na prekid vatre... I to jedva, danima su se protivili tome. Sutra kad im se neko od ovih kojima su pobijene cijele porodice, digne u zrak u sred NY, pitati "sta smo im mi krivi"...
A drugi ce odgovoriti:svijet nas mrzi jer smo najjaci i najbogatiji :-)
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I ja kada kazem da Americka vlada ne radi u interesu Americkog naroda ne vjeruju mi. Sta je tacno korist nekog seljaka iz Kentackija ova podrska Amerike Izraelu ?
Osim sto stvara mrznju cijelog svijeta prema tom neduznom seljaku, ja drugi motiv ne vidim. Naravno ta mrzanja kasnije nije losa po vojno industriski komplex (kazu otprilike trecina ukupne Americke privrede) jer onada mogu objaviti rat protiv terorizma i tako sebi kreirati trziste za plasman svojih proizvoda...to sto neki ljudi ginu i pate, jbg...ne mozes napraviti kajganu da ne rabijes par jaja.

Kontrolisana demokratija.
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izraelska "vojska" granatirala zgradu u kojoj se pokusalo sakriti 30 civila. Svi mrtvi. UN tvrdi da je zlocin ucinjen namjerno.
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A vas sve koji masturbirate po ovoj temi s nakim licnim prepucavanjima, sram da vas bude. Jasno je kao dan da je hamas teroristicka organizacija, ali je isto tako jasno da izrael nikad u sustini tu nista nece promijeniti (i da ukinu hamas, opet bi postavili nesto slicno, da imaju opravdanje za zlocin).
Ti civili, zene, djeca, oni su zrtve. A nalaze se pred unistenjem, ako se ovako nastavi. Nek' im je Bog na pomoci..
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#1943 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!!!

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FENA - Nevladina organizacija Demokratski omladinski pokret poziva sve građane Sarajeva da 10. januara u 13 sati dođu na mirne demonstracije ispred Ekonomskog fakulteta u Sarajevu, kako bi protestovali protiv rata u Gazzi. Smatramo da je sramota za državu BiH kao i za njene građane koji su doživjeli sve ono što se trenutno dešava u pojasu Gazze da ne pokazuju istinsku i javnu solidanost za civilnim žrtvama tog rata, poručili su iz ovog pokreta te dodali: "Važno je napomenuti da ne demonstriramo ni protiv Izraela ni Palestine, već samo i prvenstveno za mir. Mi ne podržavamo ikakvo nasilje i retoriku mržnje kako na demonstracijama tako i mimo demonstracija. Pokažimo svijetu da rat nikada nije rješenje te da smo mi svojoj krvavoj prošlošću skupo platili mir."Na okupljanju će biti pozvane državne vlasti da osude rat u pojasu Gazze, te da se aktivno uključe u mirovne pregovore i da svojim nedavnim iskustvom uspostavljanja mira pomognemo i narodu na Bliskom istoku za trajno rješenje problema.
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#1944 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!!!

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vratnik wrote:A vas sve koji masturbirate po ovoj temi s nakim licnim prepucavanjima, sram da vas bude.


Ti civili, zene, djeca, oni su zrtve. A nalaze se pred unistenjem, ako se ovako nastavi.

Svaka ti cast za ovo. :thumbup: :bih: :bih: :bih:
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#1945 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!!!

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0811690589

"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge Is not Ignorance...
It is illusion of Knowledge" Stephen Hawking


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#1946 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!!!

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ostro i na prvu wrote:hamas odbija rezoluciju jer nije u interesu palestinskog naroda.
a koja je razlika izmedju toga gore i ovoga (ovo meni ne lici kao prihvatanje necega) :

"Israel has acted, is acting, and will continue to act only according to its calculations, in the interest of the security of its citizens and its right to self defense."

semantika?
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#1947 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!!!

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Zasto vise nema samoubilackih napada unutar izraela? jeli se izrael zaista tako dobro uspio osigurati sto se toga tice? jeli zaista onaj zid koji su podigli razlog prestanka samoubilackih napada?
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#1948 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!!!

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Razlika je u tome sto je Izreal prepustio Hamasu da odbije rezoluciju, i sad nece imati pritisak od medjunarodne zajednice.
Jednostavno ce rec: Pa mi bi prestali, ali ti Hamasovci nece...

Po meni greska Hamasa.
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#1949 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!!!

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AFP - Generalni sekretar Ujedinjenih nacija Ban Ki Mon osudio je izraelski napad na konvoj UN-a u pojasu Gazze, u kojem je jedna osoba ubijena, navodi se u saopćenju objavljenom u Nju Jorku i Bejtul Mukadesu. "UN je u kontaktu s izraelskim vlastima kako bi se provela temeljita istraga o ovom i o drugim incidentima i razgovaralo o hitnim mjerama koje treba poduzeti kako bi se ubuduće izbjegli ovakvi incidenti", saopćio je glasnogovornik Bana, prenosi AFP. "Generalni sekretar je ponovo pozvao na trenutni prekid vatre, kako bi se humanitarna pomoć mogla dopremati bez zapreka a humanitarnim radnicima omogućilo da rade u sigurnosti i dođu do ljudi kojima je potrebna pomoć", navodi se u saopćenju. Organizacija za dostavljanje humanitarne pomoći Paletincima ranije je saopštila da su odgođene sve operacije dostavljanja pomoći u pojas Gazze nakon što je jedan njihov konvoj pogodila tenkovska granata. Glasnogovornik Organizacije za dostavu humanitarne pomoći Palestini, Kristofer Ganes naglasio je da su bili primoran na takav potez. Nismo imali drugog izbora i suspendovali smo sve operacije dok ne bude garantovana sigurnost našeg osoblja", rekao je on
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#1950 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!!!

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bogoljub wrote: poručili su iz ovog pokreta te dodali: "Važno je napomenuti da ne demonstriramo ni protiv Izraela ni Palestine, već samo i prvenstveno za mir.
Ne bih da cjepidlacim i svaka cast na inicijativi ali mislim da nije dovoljno reci mi smo za mir. Treba jasno dati na znanje i ko cini sve ove zlocine, a to je u ovom slucaju drzava Izrael. Izrael treba osuditi jasno i ostro, hiniti neku neutralnost je ne samo nemoralno vec te na neki nacin pretvara i u saucesnika u masakru.
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