VAKCINACIJA DJECE I NOVORODJENCADI U BIH ?

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Meni je najbolje kad kazu farmaceutska mafija vakcinise da bi pare zgrnula. Vise para bi zaradili da lijece bolesti. Avaks logika

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Ovo je ubjedljivo jedna od najinteresantnijih tema na forumu, prica se ponavlja svakih 5 - 6 stranica u krug, samo sto se sudionici u diskusiji mijenjaju. Prije nego sto neko pomisli suprotno, naravno da nisam citao sve

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Ovo je ubjedljivo jedna od najinteresantnijih tema na forumu, prica se ponavlja svakih 5 - 6 stranica u krug, samo sto se sudionici u diskusiji mijenjaju. Prije nego sto neko pomisli suprotno, naravno da nisam citao sve

Ovo je jedna od onih tema nakon cijeg citanja hoces da se iselis na Novi Zeland ili kakvo pusto ostrvo. Kakvih sve delegata ima....

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Ovo je ubjedljivo jedna od najinteresantnijih tema na forumu, prica se ponavlja svakih 5 - 6 stranica u krug, samo sto se sudionici u diskusiji mijenjaju. Prije nego sto neko pomisli suprotno, naravno da nisam citao sve

Ovo je jedna od onih tema nakon cijeg citanja hoces da se iselis na Novi Zeland ili kakvo pusto ostrvo. Kakvih sve delegata ima....

Ma impresionira me samo kako ljudi misle da necije licno iskustvo, koje spada u neki mizeran procenat statistike, statisticka greska, mogu uzeti kao relevantan argument i na osnovu toga donositi zakljucke.

[AleksoMKD]

U Skopju epidemija malih boginja.

Ministarstvo zdravlja izaslo sa podatkom da u Skopju oko 15.000 dece nije vakcinirano.

Ko zna dali je povezano?

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U Skopju epidemija malih boginja.

Ministarstvo zdravlja izaslo sa podatkom da u Skopju oko 15.000 dece nije vakcinirano.

Ko zna dali je povezano?

To ti je jaro od vakcinacije

[AleksoMKD]

100%

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100%

Ma garant 15k oboljelih od posljedica vakcinacije. Bice da je to...

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Postoji kod nekih ljudi sumnja. Na sumnju nema konkretnih odgovora šta je u vakcinama, već samo ismijavanje i slijepo vjerovanje da one moraju raditi.
Jer je našim imunolozima to rekao Who, našim doktorima prodajni predstavnik farmaceutske firme. Jer se drugi boje sumnjati i pitati.

I onda neko uradi što je normalno i što se moralo uraditi za sve vakcine koje koristimo, analizirati ih.
U članku je link na puni dokument
https://vaxxter.com/vaccine_contaminants_nano_cancer/

This article, “New Quality-Control Investigations on Vaccines: Micro and Nano-contamination” published on January 23, 2017, in the peer-reviewed journal, the
International Journal of Vaccines & Vaccination absolutely blew me away.
Here is a snapshot from this must-read, full-text article:
A team of scientists in Italy decided to examine batches of vaccines, looking for contaminants not listed as ingredients. 44 types of vaccines manufactured in Italy and France were analyzed using an Environmental Electron Scanning Microscope. This method was chosen because the matter can be separated into either organic debris (called aggregates) or inorganic debris (called clusters). The identified particles were counted three times by three different operators, with an error rate of less than 10%. They found inorganic contaminants in every single one.
The presence of micro- and nanosized particulate matter, composed of inorganic chemicals, metals and combination elements whose presence is
inexplicable.
The particles are foreign bodies, and can produce a
chronic inflammatory reaction because the particles cannot be degraded. The klix nanoparticles can enter the cell nuclei and interact with cellular DNA.
The inorganic particles are neither biocompatible nor biodegradable , that means they are biopersistent .
They can induce immediate effects or the effects may be delayed for a long time after administration.
Indentifying Aluminum and NaCl is obvious because they are commonly used in vaccines and they are declared components, but the other materials are
not supposed to be in vaccines or in any other injectable drug.
In most circumstances, the combinations detected are very odd. They have no technical use, cannot be found in any material handbook and look like form randomly, for example, when waste is burnt. In any case, whatever their origin, they should not be present in any injectable, let alone in vaccines given to infants.
Wow.
While the entire article was disturbing, I found this little paragraph to be the most eye-popping of all:
Feligen , the only veterinary vaccine tested, proved to be the only sample free from inorganic contamination , while Allergoid generates a layer of inorganic salts [aluminum] so thick that it does not allow to detect other particulate contaminants.
Why would a shot used for allergies (Allergoid) be
loaded with aluminum, which is known to cause allergies?
Why would a cat vaccine have no contaminants , while vaccines destined for humans are loaded with toxic particulate matter?
If these vaccine contaminants are due to sloppy manufacturing, the animal vaccine should be contaminated with the same elements, which includes titanium, tungsten, stainless steel, chromium, nickel, aluminum, iron and a very long list of combination formulated compounds such as SiAlSBaFe (silicon + aluminum + sulfur + barium + iron), a particle found in the European flu shot, Agrippal, and AlSiMgTiMnCrFe (aluminum + silicon +magnesium + titanium + manganese + chromium + iron) a particle found in
Repevax, one of many European DTaP vaccines.
On a side note, Repevax is one nasty vaccine. In addition to the large particle named above, the vaccine contains diphtheria and tetanus toxoid, 4-in-1 pertussis antigens, and three polio viruses. The vaccine is produced in VERO cells from African monkeys. It has residual formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde, streptomycin, neomycin, polymyxin B and bovine serum, all used during the manufacturing process. For good measure, 1.5mg of aluminum phosphate is used as an adjuvant and polysorbate 80 and phenoxyethanol are present as excipients. It is approved for use in children 3yrs of age and over, adolescents and adults. Would you want this injected into your body , or the body of your child?

Još jedno testiranje, link u članku https://vaxxter.com/infanrix-hexa-65-to ... o-benefit/

On December 13, Corvelva, a scientific research group, announced it had received €10,000 (US$11,350) from the Italian National Order of Biologists
with plans to use the money to test the contents of every vaccine currently on the market. The result of their first test was released on December 16, and the report is a doozie.
You certainly won’t hear this in the MSM.
The first vaccine they thoroughly tested was Infanrix Hexa – a six-in-one vaccine manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) that is *supposed* to contain the following antigens: tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis toxoids; inactivated poliomyelitis viral strains 1-2-3; and hepatitis B surface antigen. Shockingly, Corvelva found NONE of these antigens in the vaccine, meaning, that NO antibodies to the intended antigens will be created.
And it gets worse. In addition to no vaccine antigens, they found the following:
traces of 65 chemical cross-contaminants from other manufacturing lines;
chemical toxins;
unrecognizable macromolecules;
various free bacterial peptides that are potential allergens and are capable of inducing autoimmune reactions.

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Ako ove farmaceutske kuće ovako potplaćuju u Kazahstanu i kako kaže brojnim drugim zemljama, je li moguće da potplaćuju i u Bosni i Hercegovini?
Zar oni koji vakcinišu djecu i prave lijekove mogu raditi ovako nešto pokvareno, podmićivati. Doduše, moraju imati koga da primi.

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-174

The Securities and Exchange Commission today announced that Paris-based pharmaceutical company Sanofi has agreed to pay more than $25 million to resolve charges that its Kazakhstan and the Middle East subsidiaries made corrupt payments to win business.
According to the SEC’s order, the schemes spanned multiple countries and involved bribe payments to government procurement officials and healthcare providers in order to be awarded tenders and to increase prescriptions of its products. In Kazakhstan, distributors were used as part of a kickback scheme to generate funds from which bribes were paid to officials to ensure that Sanofi was awarded tenders at public institutions. The kickbacks were tracked in internal spreadsheets where they were coded as “marzipans.” In the Middle East, various pay-to-prescribe schemes were used to induce healthcare providers to increase their prescriptions of Sanofi products

[Toda]

Kaže voditelj "zabavno i spontano"..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw83gN7 ... annel=null

[AleksoMKD]

OK, update sto se tice gorespomenutih vakcija u Makedoniji.

Osim sumnjivog tendera (jebiga tradicija) uvoznik vakcina je nalepio deklaracije sa isteklim rokom trajanja sto je normalno dovelo do panike roditelja. Sada ministar pokusava da izvadi situaciju ali je momentalno tragikomedija

[ozdrlje_donje]

Postoji kod nekih ljudi sumnja. Na sumnju nema konkretnih odgovora šta je u vakcinama, već samo ismijavanje i slijepo vjerovanje da one moraju raditi.
Jer je našim imunolozima to rekao Who, našim doktorima prodajni predstavnik farmaceutske firme. Jer se drugi boje sumnjati i pitati.

I onda neko uradi što je normalno i što se moralo uraditi za sve vakcine koje koristimo, analizirati ih.
U članku je link na puni dokument
https://vaxxter.com/vaccine_contaminants_nano_cancer/

This article, “New Quality-Control Investigations on Vaccines: Micro and Nano-contamination” published on January 23, 2017, in the peer-reviewed journal, the
International Journal of Vaccines & Vaccination absolutely blew me away.
Here is a snapshot from this must-read, full-text article:
A team of scientists in Italy decided to examine batches of vaccines, looking for contaminants not listed as ingredients. 44 types of vaccines manufactured in Italy and France were analyzed using an Environmental Electron Scanning Microscope. This method was chosen because the matter can be separated into either organic debris (called aggregates) or inorganic debris (called clusters). The identified particles were counted three times by three different operators, with an error rate of less than 10%. They found inorganic contaminants in every single one.
The presence of micro- and nanosized particulate matter, composed of inorganic chemicals, metals and combination elements whose presence is
inexplicable.
The particles are foreign bodies, and can produce a
chronic inflammatory reaction because the particles cannot be degraded. The klix nanoparticles can enter the cell nuclei and interact with cellular DNA.
The inorganic particles are neither biocompatible nor biodegradable , that means they are biopersistent .
They can induce immediate effects or the effects may be delayed for a long time after administration.
Indentifying Aluminum and NaCl is obvious because they are commonly used in vaccines and they are declared components, but the other materials are
not supposed to be in vaccines or in any other injectable drug.
In most circumstances, the combinations detected are very odd. They have no technical use, cannot be found in any material handbook and look like form randomly, for example, when waste is burnt. In any case, whatever their origin, they should not be present in any injectable, let alone in vaccines given to infants.
Wow.
While the entire article was disturbing, I found this little paragraph to be the most eye-popping of all:
Feligen , the only veterinary vaccine tested, proved to be the only sample free from inorganic contamination , while Allergoid generates a layer of inorganic salts [aluminum] so thick that it does not allow to detect other particulate contaminants.
Why would a shot used for allergies (Allergoid) be
loaded with aluminum, which is known to cause allergies?
Why would a cat vaccine have no contaminants , while vaccines destined for humans are loaded with toxic particulate matter?
If these vaccine contaminants are due to sloppy manufacturing, the animal vaccine should be contaminated with the same elements, which includes titanium, tungsten, stainless steel, chromium, nickel, aluminum, iron and a very long list of combination formulated compounds such as SiAlSBaFe (silicon + aluminum + sulfur + barium + iron), a particle found in the European flu shot, Agrippal, and AlSiMgTiMnCrFe (aluminum + silicon +magnesium + titanium + manganese + chromium + iron) a particle found in
Repevax, one of many European DTaP vaccines.
On a side note, Repevax is one nasty vaccine. In addition to the large particle named above, the vaccine contains diphtheria and tetanus toxoid, 4-in-1 pertussis antigens, and three polio viruses. The vaccine is produced in VERO cells from African monkeys. It has residual formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde, streptomycin, neomycin, polymyxin B and bovine serum, all used during the manufacturing process. For good measure, 1.5mg of aluminum phosphate is used as an adjuvant and polysorbate 80 and phenoxyethanol are present as excipients. It is approved for use in children 3yrs of age and over, adolescents and adults. Would you want this injected into your body , or the body of your child?

Još jedno testiranje, link u članku https://vaxxter.com/infanrix-hexa-65-to ... o-benefit/

On December 13, Corvelva, a scientific research group, announced it had received €10,000 (US$11,350) from the Italian National Order of Biologists
with plans to use the money to test the contents of every vaccine currently on the market. The result of their first test was released on December 16, and the report is a doozie.
You certainly won’t hear this in the MSM.
The first vaccine they thoroughly tested was Infanrix Hexa – a six-in-one vaccine manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) that is *supposed* to contain the following antigens: tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis toxoids; inactivated poliomyelitis viral strains 1-2-3; and hepatitis B surface antigen. Shockingly, Corvelva found NONE of these antigens in the vaccine, meaning, that NO antibodies to the intended antigens will be created.
And it gets worse. In addition to no vaccine antigens, they found the following:
traces of 65 chemical cross-contaminants from other manufacturing lines;
chemical toxins;
unrecognizable macromolecules;
various free bacterial peptides that are potential allergens and are capable of inducing autoimmune reactions.

Opet isto palamudzenje, postavljanje nebuloza sa antivaxxerskih stranica. A sto se tice clanka i zurnala, pogledaj malo "impact factor" pa ce ti se samo kazati kakav je zurnal, a najmanje "peer reviewed".

Uostalom: https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skeptic ... -bad-data/

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https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/crna-hronik ... /190115018

vakcina protiv pljuskavica postoji, ali kod nas nije obavezna i rijetko ko je daje djeci.

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https://www.klix.ba/lifestyle/zdravlje/ ... /190117128

[moke_31]

Na kojem mjestu su farmaceutske kompanije? Top 5

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https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/bih/gradjan ... /190123041

Ali zato su vakcine zlo

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https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/bih/gradjan ... /190123041

Ali zato su vakcine zlo

Dje ces koristit alkoholni toplomjer, zali boze alkohola koji se mogo popit

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https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/bih/gradjan ... /190123041

Ali zato su vakcine zlo

Šta je problem? Neće piti živu iz toplomjera

Kao to lafo zabranjeno, štetno po zdravlje, ovo ono, a novorđenčad pola minute nakon poroda rokaju živom i aluminijem iz vakcina. I još nas prave budalama da ne znaju da objasne fenomen iznenadne smrti beba. Kakav ološ. Fuj

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Kao to lafo zabranjeno, štetno po zdravlje, ovo ono, a novorđenčad pola minute nakon poroda rokaju živom i aluminijem iz vakcina. I još nas prave budalama da ne znaju da objasne fenomen iznenadne smrti beba. Kakav ološ. Fuj

Uvijek se iznova iznenadim kolicini gluposti koja se moze kondenzirati u samo par recenica.

[moke_31]

Wow, kako argumentovan odgovor. Odoh se odjaviti sa foruma

[Maxxtro]

Wow, kako argumentovan odgovor. Odoh se odjaviti sa foruma

Jednostavna primjena Hitchensove ostrice - ono sto se bez argumenata tvrdi nije potrebno ni argumentima osporavati. Uostalom, ko sam ja da se mijesam u prirodnu selekciju, samo nastavi po svome.

[moke_31]

Wow, kako argumentovan odgovor. Odoh se odjaviti sa foruma

Jednostavna primjena Hitchensove ostrice - ono sto se bez argumenata tvrdi nije potrebno ni argumentima osporavati. Uostalom, ko sam ja da se mijesam u prirodnu selekciju, samo nastavi po svome.

Sad malo filozofije, nije loše. Bar je u argumentima još 0-0.
Nego otkud sad prirodna selekcija u argumentaciji?! Kad mi antivakseri tvrdimo da su neke smrti uzrokovane bolestima protiv kojih se vakcinišemo, ili su te bolesti izazvale komplikacije koje su dovele do smrti, prirodna selekcija, vi tvrditi da je pojava bolesti zbog nevakcinisanja?!

Zar moderna medicina poznaje pojam prirodne selekcije?

Zar vakcine ne mogu sve spriječiti?

[Maxxtro]

Sad malo filozofije, nije loše. Bar je u argumentima još 0-0.

Nikakva filozofija, nego cisto racionalni princip kojem je dato fancy ime.

Nego otkud sad prirodna selekcija u argumentaciji?! Kad mi antivakseri tvrdimo da su neke smrti uzrokovane bolestima protiv kojih se vakcinišemo, ili su te bolesti izazvale komplikacije koje su dovele do smrti, prirodna selekcija, vi tvrditi da je pojava bolesti zbog nevakcinisanja?!

Na ovo ne znam ni kako odgovoriti. Dabogda da ti znas sta si htio reci. No dobro, svakako je komentar o prirodnoj selekciji bio zajebancija s moje strane, nije ozbiljan ako nije bilo jasno.
Pocelo je od onih citiranih recenica u kojima si iznio toliko netacnosti i gluposti da bi se to klupko zabluda moglo satima odmotavati. Skoro sve vec prije vidjeno od antivaxera, ali ono sto me posebno zagolicalo i sto nisam prije cuo je ova insinuacija da vakcine uzrokuju sindrom iznenadne smrti novorodjencadi. Volio bih znati na cemu to baziras?

Zar moderna medicina poznaje pojam prirodne selekcije?

Nisam siguran da razumijes ijedan od ovih pojmova.

Zar vakcine ne mogu sve spriječiti?

Ne mogu glupost ocito: https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/01 ... e-hotspot/

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