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#1876 Re: Serie A

Posted: 31/08/2010 22:10
by krusty
rIder wrote:nebitno je sta mutd fanovi misle o rafi, ti klipovi su njihov odgovor na redovno deranje uniteda od strane beniteza jal na old traffordu jal na anfieldu...

deranje od strane IGRACA a ne Beniteza... zato sto se svi nenormalno nafuraju kad igraju najveci derbi protiv Man Utda pa im u toj utakmici i ne treba neka dodatna motivacija trenera

#1877 Re: Serie A

Posted: 01/09/2010 00:52
by rIder
krusty wrote:
rIder wrote:nebitno je sta mutd fanovi misle o rafi, ti klipovi su njihov odgovor na redovno deranje uniteda od strane beniteza jal na old traffordu jal na anfieldu...

deranje od strane IGRACA a ne Beniteza... zato sto se svi nenormalno nafuraju kad igraju najveci derbi protiv Man Utda pa im u toj utakmici i ne treba neka dodatna motivacija trenera
jest samo što kad gube onda nisu krivi igrači onda je kriv benitez, a kad dobijaju zasluga igrača, nema rafa ništa s tim... :roll:

#1878 Re: Serie A

Posted: 01/09/2010 15:36
by 2407
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#1879 Re: Serie A

Posted: 01/09/2010 15:51
by rIder
tako je to uvijek krajem avgusta i pocetkom septembra, a u maju...

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:-) :D

#1880 Re: Serie A

Posted: 01/09/2010 16:26
by 2407
Cestitam nema sta :thumbup:

Volio bih da i ove godine neki talijanski klub uzme Ligu prvaka pa makar to bio i Inter, al mislim da vam je ove godine odzvonilo.

#1881 Re: Serie A

Posted: 01/09/2010 16:36
by internazionale
vidi milan iz groba ust'o

#1882 Re: Serie A

Posted: 01/09/2010 18:25
by ultima_palabra
Da li se iko slaže sa mnom u tome da Ronaldinho, Robinho, Pato i Ibra nikako ne mogu zajedno igrati u prvih 11? :roll:

#1883 Re: Serie A

Posted: 01/09/2010 18:26
by ratata
ultima_palabra wrote:Da li se iko slaže sa mnom u tome da Ronaldinho, Robinho, Pato i Ibra nikako ne mogu zajedno igrati u prvih 11? :roll:
da, definitivno

#1884 Re: Serie A

Posted: 01/09/2010 18:30
by Neelix
Nece ni igrati, osim u trenucima kad Milan gubi i treba im go brzo. Culi ste za rotaciju?

#1885 Re: Serie A

Posted: 01/09/2010 18:32
by ultima_palabra
Neelix wrote:Nece ni igrati, osim u trenucima kad Milan gubi i treba im go brzo. Culi ste za rotaciju?
To da... rotacija? Ne znam za Pata, ali ova trojica imaju ego veličine Mont Everesta ;-) Anyway, nešto sam čuo da će se zubonja vratiti u Brazil na zimu...

#1886 Re: Serie A

Posted: 01/09/2010 18:39
by Neelix
Nema ni Robinho....sve dok ga se tretira posteno. Uostalom, sigurno ne bi dolazio tu, vec je znao za RIP Inter :D i da nece biti prvi izbor ni preko ijednog od njih. Doduse on je jako "versatile", (glupo mi rec pokretljiv :D ), moze igrati na mnogo pozicija...mijenjati svetrojicu, a moze, sa nesto manjim uspjehom, bit i ofanzivni vezni...tako da ce biti prilika za igru :) a u Milanu pripremaju produzenje ugovora za Dinha, tako da ne vjerujem :)

#1887 Re: Serie A

Posted: 01/09/2010 18:43
by ultima_palabra
Pa Robinho je raznim varijantama plača i prijetnji napustio svoja tri dosadašnja kluba :-) Vrlo ružan karakter... ali Galliani ga je doveo po finoj cijeni, tako da nije neki veliki rizik.

#1888 Re: Serie A

Posted: 01/09/2010 19:07
by Neelix
Evo sta jedan kolega sa Milanovog foruma, inace iz Brazila, pise o Robinhu :) a ja jos nisam vidio lika da bolje poznaje brazilske fudbalere :)

When he appears in Brazil, everyone thought he would reach Romario, Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho level. When he was 18yo, he lead a great and young Santos team(with Diego, Renato, Alex, Leo, Elano, Fabio Costa) to Brazilian Championship against all odds and one year later, to the final of Libertadores(lose to Boca Juniors). It's funny how some people(several Robinho's haters here in Brazil) like to give all the credit to Diego, when in the final he was hurt and it was Robinho that lead the show against Corinthias in the last game away from home. Don't get me wrong, Diego was very good too, and play a huge role with Alex(stopping a amazing Luis Fabiano) in the victory over Brazil's best team(São Paulo of Kaka&Fabiano) and 1st seed of that time(Santos was the 8º). That win gave Santos the confidence to win it all...

Back to Robinho, he was a amazing prospect with two glaring flaws: below-average finishing skills and frame. The body part was a overrated because of his style of to play. He was(is) at his best in a one touch football(tabelas, as we say here) and using his speed to always receive the ball one step ahead of the defenders. Robinho wasn't the type of skilled player that hold onto the ball and try to get past 3 or 4 players(like Messi, Robben, CR). This don't suit his style(frame) and it is the main reason that make every team that tried to turn him into a winger in Europe, fail... and the same thing will happen with Neymar if tried. Btw, it's incredible, but Neymar at 18 is a much better prospect than Robinho at the same age, and thats a scary thought. But thats another discussion.

He started starring at Real Madrid but couldn't maintain the level(for several reasons) but that you already know. In Milan I think Robinho will find the right environment needed to be the same of Brazil NT and Santos. Every Brazilian player that came to Milan talk about the family atmosphere, and for the respect they received by fans, teammates and Board. Plus, in contrast to what some people like to say, he's everything but a primadona. It's by far the most liked(by teammates) player of Brazil NT. Always in a good mood and like he displayed in Santos before World Cup, shows no EGO problem to became a adjuvant to Neymar and Ganso. So, I think he will fight for a starting place without any problem. If Allegri treat him right and fair, of course. Bottom line, he knows we have Pato, Ibra, Ronaldinho up front, but he also knows he can do several roles and add versatility to our attack, too. But I'm not naive... None of Pato, Ibra, Ronnie and Robinho will be glad of to be on the bench, even more in BIG Serie A and C.L games. So, it's all on the hands of Allegri to manage the minutes and situation. A advice I give to Allegri is: Play the ones with the best form and keep it straight with the four, always talking the true face to face. Players like and respect it. One thing is for sure, I can't see this 4 together more than this season...

But what I like about Robinho's purchase, is the fact it alone will bring the heat to Ronaldinho. He knows now there's a player on the rooster can do his role not only at the left, but also as AMD. Yep, he's not a pure ADM, but I already saw Robinho(mostly in Brazil NT) doing Kaka's role pretty well. Regarding the formation, we still lack the pieces to play "The Big 4" against better opposition, but I think we can do it against small(and some middle) teams in San Siro. One piece is a Jucilei/Essien type of player(2) on our mid and other is a Ronnie improved work rate. What I don't believe now he's on the 30's...

#1889 Re: Serie A

Posted: 03/09/2010 15:38
by ratata
Neelix wrote:Nece ni igrati, osim u trenucima kad Milan gubi i treba im go brzo. Culi ste za rotaciju?
da,cuo sam za rotaciju koristio je Benitez sest godina u Engleskoj i nikad nije osvojio Premiership :)

#1890 Re: Serie A

Posted: 03/09/2010 17:41
by Neelix
iiii? Nit je ovo premiership, nit je benitez tu.

#1891 Re: Serie A

Posted: 04/09/2010 14:56
by ratata
Neelix wrote:iiii? Nit je ovo premiership, nit je benitez tu.
pa nista kume, samo rekoh u prevodu puno buke oko Milana ali opet Inter sampion

#1892 Re: Serie A

Posted: 04/09/2010 14:58
by Neelix
pa i ne moze bit do kraja sezone niko drugi, jel...al na kraju cemo vec drugu pjesmu pjevat ;)

#1893 Re: Serie A

Posted: 04/09/2010 15:03
by rIder
ratata wrote:
Neelix wrote:iiii? Nit je ovo premiership, nit je benitez tu.
pa nista kume, samo rekoh u prevodu puno buke oko Milana ali opet Inter sampion
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#1894 Re: Serie A

Posted: 04/09/2010 15:05
by Neelix
jel ti krivo :D

#1895 Re: Serie A

Posted: 04/09/2010 15:09
by rIder
meni drago :D konacno malo konkurencije :D

#1896 Re: Serie A

Posted: 08/09/2010 00:29
by Romanista 101%
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Ukupni budžet za plate igraca:

Milan: 130 mil. eura
Inter: 121,4 mil. eura
Juventus: 100 mil. eura
Roma: 83 mil. eura

#1897 Re: Serie A

Posted: 08/09/2010 13:40
by Neelix
Ibrahimovicu je plata 6 mil, a ne 9 - tolika mu je bila u barceloni ;)

#1898 Re: Serie A

Posted: 09/09/2010 13:24
by 2407
Neelix wrote:Ibrahimovicu je plata 6 mil, a ne 9 - tolika mu je bila u barceloni ;)
Mislim da ti grijesis, Zlaji je u Barci kapalo u djep oko ili preko 13 miliona € godisnje. A pristao je na nesto manju platu u Milanu.

#1899 Re: Serie A

Posted: 09/09/2010 15:27
by Neelix
Mozda je to cifra sa sponzorskim ugovorima i sl. U Milanu od kluba dobija 6 miliona :)

#1900 Re: Serie A

Posted: 09/09/2010 17:16
by 2407
Neelix wrote:Mozda je to cifra sa sponzorskim ugovorima i sl. U Milanu od kluba dobija 6 miliona :)
Mozda mu je to ili neto ili plata bez bonusa za golove, asistencije, odigrane utakmice. Uostalom, ko mu jebe mater, brojimo mu pare ovdje k'o da nama idu u djep :)