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SamoVasGledam wrote:Eto kakvo taj Arapin ima mišljenje o drugima, a kad neko dira u njih i njihovo onda si ti islamofob, ovakav ili onakav. Dvostruki aršini, a upravo sam o tome pisao i ABH-u.

asurbanipal wrote:

ABH017 wrote:Ma jok.
Musliman, arap.

Arapski istoričari se bave 'bitnijim' stvarima.

ABH017 wrote:

SamoVasGledam wrote:Eto kakvo taj Arapin ima mišljenje o drugima, a kad neko dira u njih i njihovo onda si ti islamofob, ovakav ili onakav. Dvostruki aršini, a upravo sam o tome pisao i ABH-u.

Jarane, ti sam sebe proglasi islamofobom.
Ja ti to ni jednom nisam rekao.

ABH017 wrote:Ma jok.
Musliman, arap.

asurbanipal wrote:In 833 CE, the Abbasid Caliph al-Ma'mun began a period of inquisition (mihna), one which continued until his successor al-Mutawakkil decreed its end, fifteen years later. During this period, the Caliphs in power strove to promote 'correct belief' in the 'createdness' of the Qur'an, thus ordering the interrogation of religious scholars on the subject and disqualifying, beating or even executing those who answered incorrectly. Here, John P. Turner examines and analyses this major episode, viewing it as the pivotal point for the era in question and ultimately for the state of relations between the temporal authorities and religious law. Inquisition in Early Islam focuses on the shifting control over matters of belief and orthodoxy, from the Caliph to the religious scholars, and explores the relationships between heresy, power and the articulation and definition of law and doctrine. Turner does so by exploring the mihna within its context, asking questions such as, why was it so pivotal? Why was it begun ? Why did it end? When did the meaning of the Caliph's position in society shift ?

How did the Caliph lose his ability to assert himself in defining the boundaries and beliefs of religion? And why and when do the religious/legal scholars gain independence and control over the elaboration and interpretation of the law? By examining the definition of 'heresy' as conceived of by the Caliphs, Turner presents a vivid account of the heresy trials during this period, as well as an insightful analysis of the nature of rule and religion. Through investigating heretics and heresy in this period, Turner highlights the Caliph's social role, exploring the relationships between orthodoxy, heresy, power and authority in a context where there was no single arbiter of dogma. This book is therefore of particular interest to researchers and scholars of Islamic history as well as of comparative religion and medieval history.

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

ABH017 wrote:Ma jok.
Musliman, arap.

http://www.abbasidstudies.org/?page_id=11

Connaisseur Karlin wrote: Treba dodati paljenje knjiga cijenjenih naucnika doticnog perioda.

asurbanipal wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

ABH017 wrote:Ma jok.
Musliman, arap.

http://www.abbasidstudies.org/?page_id=11

John P. Turner - Al-Jāḥiẓ and the Politics of Identity

asurbanipal wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote: Treba dodati paljenje knjiga cijenjenih naucnika doticnog perioda.

Nešto kao danas u sultanatu i 1933. u Njemačkoj ?

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

ABH017 wrote:Ma jok.
Musliman, arap.

http://www.abbasidstudies.org/?page_id=11

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

asurbanipal wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote: Treba dodati paljenje knjiga cijenjenih naucnika doticnog perioda.

Nešto kao danas u sultanatu i 1933. u Njemačkoj ?

yup

asurbanipal wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

asurbanipal wrote:

Nešto kao danas u sultanatu i 1933. u Njemačkoj ?

yup

To je sve masonsko-cionistička zavjera. Čuj palili knjige. I još inkvizicija kod muslimana. Ma nije moguće...

ABH017 wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

ABH017 wrote:Ma jok.
Musliman, arap.

http://www.abbasidstudies.org/?page_id=11

Ne kontam.

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

ABH017 wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote: http://www.abbasidstudies.org/?page_id=11

Ne kontam.

Pa istoka zapad sjever i jug zjaedno rade na analizi Abasidkske dinastije standradni izgovor da nije arap je preglup

ABH017 wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

ABH017 wrote: Ne kontam.

Pa istoka zapad sjever i jug zjaedno rade na analizi Abasidkske dinastije standradni izgovor da nije arap je preglup

Ah, ništa onda. Ti nisi skontala.

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

ABH017 wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
Pa istoka zapad sjever i jug zjaedno rade na analizi Abasidkske dinastije standradni izgovor da nije arap je preglup

Ah, ništa onda. Ti nisi skontala.

Sta nisam skontala?

ABH017 wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

ABH017 wrote: Ah, ništa onda. Ti nisi skontala.

Sta nisam skontala?

Ono na šta si reagovala.

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

ABH017 wrote:
Ono na šta si reagovala.

Staaa?

asurbanipal wrote:In 833 CE, the Abbasid Caliph al-Ma'mun began a period of inquisition (mihna), one which continued until his successor al-Mutawakkil decreed its end, fifteen years later. During this period, the Caliphs in power strove to promote 'correct belief' in the 'createdness' of the Qur'an, thus ordering the interrogation of religious scholars on the subject and disqualifying, beating or even executing those who answered incorrectly. Here, John P. Turner examines and analyses this major episode, viewing it as the pivotal point for the era in question and ultimately for the state of relations between the temporal authorities and religious law. Inquisition in Early Islam focuses on the shifting control over matters of belief and orthodoxy, from the Caliph to the religious scholars, and explores the relationships between heresy, power and the articulation and definition of law and doctrine. Turner does so by exploring the mihna within its context, asking questions such as, why was it so pivotal? Why was it begun ? Why did it end? When did the meaning of the Caliph's position in society shift ?

How did the Caliph lose his ability to assert himself in defining the boundaries and beliefs of religion? And why and when do the religious/legal scholars gain independence and control over the elaboration and interpretation of the law? By examining the definition of 'heresy' as conceived of by the Caliphs, Turner presents a vivid account of the heresy trials during this period, as well as an insightful analysis of the nature of rule and religion. Through investigating heretics and heresy in this period, Turner highlights the Caliph's social role, exploring the relationships between orthodoxy, heresy, power and authority in a context where there was no single arbiter of dogma. This book is therefore of particular interest to researchers and scholars of Islamic history as well as of comparative religion and medieval history.

mousstapha wrote:Autor te knjige je sigurno neki mason ili izraelski plaćenik.

ABH017 wrote:Ma jok.
Musliman, arap.

ABH017 wrote:

SamoVasGledam wrote:Eto kakvo taj Arapin ima mišljenje o drugima, a kad neko dira u njih i njihovo onda si ti islamofob, ovakav ili onakav. Dvostruki aršini, a upravo sam o tome pisao i ABH-u.

Jarane, ti sam sebe proglasi islamofobom.
Ja ti to ni jednom nisam rekao.

SamoVasGledam wrote:

ABH017 wrote:

SamoVasGledam wrote:Eto kakvo taj Arapin ima mišljenje o drugima, a kad neko dira u njih i njihovo onda si ti islamofob, ovakav ili onakav. Dvostruki aršini, a upravo sam o tome pisao i ABH-u.

Jarane, ti sam sebe proglasi islamofobom.
Ja ti to ni jednom nisam rekao.

Nisam ja ni rekao da si to bio ti. Mada si vukao na nešto slično.