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Challenger__ wrote:
Kaligula I wrote:...vidiš, ja mislim da ima mjesta prigovoru...recimo, da sam Turčin Erdoganu nikad ne bih oprostio odustajanje od dobitne kombinacije zvana "Strateška dubina", a prihvatanje tamo neke luzerske doktrine...dakle, ako je Erdoganu "Strateška dubina" išla tako dobro, zašto je onda odstupio od nje?...moja je pretpostavka da nije prisiljen, nego se vrlo rado opredjelio za nju, jer je je nudila više njegovim megalomanskim apetitima, a činila mu se i brže ostvarivom...

...zanima me koga ti kriviš za taj povijesni promašaj; njega ili anglocioniste?...
- Dragi moj Kaligula, ne opraštaju mu suosnivači AKP, među kojima su bivši predsjednik Gul i predvodnik kruga nezadovoljnih Bulent Arinc. Poznato je Gulovo neslaganje sa Erdoganovom politikom u Siriji.

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Da, lik (Erdogan) je mislio da će uz pomoć Velikog brata i kumova, a nemiroljubivim sredstvima proširiti "zonu uticaja".

Prekalkulisao se, totalno i upropastio dubinu, susjede, a pokazaće se - Tursku i sebe lično.
...nešto mi se tu ne slaže...naime, ako je kalifat anglocionistički projekat, a samim tim i interes, onda on ne bi trebao biti zamka turskom narodu i turskoj državi, nego blagodet, a iz čega proizilazi da nije...dakle, ispada da im Turska, s jedne strane treba, a sa druge je perfidno melju i slabe...to dvoje su u neskladu...

...nego, meni je jedino logično objašnjenje Erdanovog političkog ludila njegova žarka želja za obnovom Otomanskog carstva...ja mislim da je "Strateška dubina", a za koju su bili Gul i Arinc, bila dovoljno u skladu s anglocionističkim ciljevima, jer su mogli i preko nje da od Turske naprave lidera putem kojeg upravljaju islamskim svijetom...dakle, vrlo je izvjesno da je Erdo zabrljao na svoju ruku, opet kažem, u luđačkoj želji da pokuša da obnovi Otomansko carstvo...

...to je moj stav...možda i griješim, ali tu smo da iskristaliziramo svoje stavove...
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sarajevoxxxx wrote:-Još jedan strašan debakl režima u pokušaju zauzimanja brda oko Al Karjetejna u Homsu :-) Krenuli su sa desetinama vojnih vozila, navodno oko 400 novih vojnika režim je mobilisao iz Homsa. Trebala je biti neka velika vojna operacija. Rusi su silovito bombardovali. Napad je odbijen, SOHR piše o gubicima na obje strane. Amak spominje da je Isil uništio dva tenka, Šilku, zarobio nešto municije.
- Režim je i na jugu Hame isto tako izgubio vojni punkt El Meddženeh, 17 režimskih vojnika je poginulo.
- U "trouglu smrti" u Deri i Quneitri opozicija je pokrenula vojne operacije. I tu su uništili nekoliko režimskih tenkova.
-U Deri u Dera Al Baladu režim je danas izgubio 37 vojnika. Tijela se nalaze na ničijoj zemlji, krenuli su na kvart Munši'eh i Dera Al Balad. Cilj režima je bio probijanje do starog graničnog prelaza. Cijela operacija je propala.
- U sjevernoj okolini Haleba po prvi put da je opozicija povratila položaje nakon nekoliko dana ofanzive PKK-a i Džejš Al Suvara.
- Isil je u Hasaki izgubio 4 sela nakon iznenadnog napada SDF-a, a žestoke borbe su se vodile u Suluku u Raqqi gdje je Isil izveo snažan napad. Nekoliko pripadnika SDF-a je poginulo ili ranjeno.
Jbt :shock: dzihadisti ne ginu? jbt ako nastave tako dobice rat
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#18478 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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republikauzicka wrote:Tell Rifat/Haleb
Kurdi razbili džihadiste
18+
https://www.facebook.com/syrian.reporte ... 087887464/
A jel bogati ?

Rusija razbila Nusru
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBQLHJmk5sU
YPG razbio ISIL
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=19b_1429851189
SAA razbila pobunjenike
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=519_1445221802

Kad ulazite u Bosnu ?
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#18479 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Iako su majstori za ovakve situacije nije im jednostavno...

Par ubitacnih pitanja! :izet: :D
QUESTION: I have on this, Mark. Can you tell us, who is your biggest ally in the area against the jihadists? This is a question. It’s not a question to whom you are giving arms; the question who is fighting with you against the jihadists?

MR TONER: Well, Michael, my answer to that is I’m not going to give a grade to any one group or any one member of the coalition. What I’m going to say is that every member of the coalition fulfills a various role. And as you know, this coalition involves various lines of effort, and we focus a lot in this room, in this briefing room on the kinetic part, the military part, and that’s important. And we’ve talked very clearly about the fact that not just the YPG, not just the Syrian Kurds, Syrian Arab groups and other groups including the Turkmen in northern Syria have been effective in taking the fight to ISIL. And in – as part of our strategy – and you know this has evolved over many months – we recognize that it’s better to provide support to these groups. It’s a more effective use, frankly, of our efforts to provide support to these groups who are already showing success in destroying Daesh on the ground and taking back territory from Daesh. I don’t want to in any way undermine or under – what’s the word I’m looking for – I don’t want to in any way say or convey that any other member of this anti-Daesh coalition is not doing enough or not fulfilling an important role. There’s lots of different roles within that coalition, but we fully recognize, and ourselves included, we all need to do more.

QUESTION: Mark, you said you have seen no indication that YPG is supported by any other country. The Syrian’s Government’s envoy to UN, Bashar Jaafari said yesterday that this – I’m quoting exactly his words – “The Syrian Kurds supported by the American Administration are also supported by the Syrian Government.” Just for your information, that’s what he said.

MR TONER: Okay, thanks.

QUESTION: So – yeah. (Laughter.)

MR TONER: No comment.

QUESTION: So do you still say that they are not supported by any other country?

MR TONER: Guys, I – respectfully, I know there’s a lot of interest in – but let’s – can we take one more question --

QUESTION: Just to clarify something --

QUESTION: Different subject.

MR TONER: No, no, no, just a – okay.

QUESTION: Just to clarify something, you said that the Turkish artillery shelling has stopped. Since when?

MR TONER: We’ve heard – I’ve seen reports that it stopped, but I can’t speak to when it happened.

QUESTION: Are you in contact with the Turkish official to stop this artillery shelling?

MR TONER: Are we what? I apologize.

QUESTION: Are you in contact with the Turkish officials to --

MR TONER: Well, of course we’re in contact with Turkish officials. You mean to stop them? I mean, we’ve urged them –

QUESTION: No, to urge them.

MR TONER: Yes, we’ve conveyed our --

QUESTION: So can you confirm that at least --

QUESTION: Did the Vice President call the prime minister and say that?

MR TONER: Yes, he did. Thank you. Yes, and Vice President Biden – he’s referring to Vice President Biden’s call. And we talk at a number of levels, as you know, every day with Turkish authorities.

QUESTION: If – I mean, since you’re in contact with the Turkish officials, are you – do you have any knowledge about when this artillery shelling has stopped?

MR TONER: I don’t have a date certain or a time certain. I’m just aware that it --

QUESTION: Since last day?

MR TONER: I don’t know.

QUESTION: Okay, the last one. Are you mediating with – between the YPG forces and U.S.-backed forces on the ground in Mari line especially, because there is a negotiation between YPG and U.S.-backed forces in – on the ground to take over Mari. Are you mediating between them?

MR TONER: I can’t speak to the details of that. I just don’t have that kind of level of detail. Sorry.

Please, Abbie.

QUESTION: Different subject.

QUESTION: No, no, no, one more, please, on Syria, please, Mark.

MR TONER: I just said – I just said, Michel.

QUESTION: Yes.

MR TONER: Let’s move along.

QUESTION: No, no --
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2016/ ... htm#TURKEY

:D :D :D :D
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Pobunjenicki reporter Hadi Abdallah Homsi, na ulazu u grad Mare' sjever Aleppa.
Pripadnici SDF-a cekaju početak zračnih napada kako bi se pobunjenici povukli iz grada. Trenutno ga i dalje kontrolišu, mada je pitanje vremena.
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36.48 ... 3&z=15&m=b


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guu5X_KsVkU
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#18481 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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DuckZz wrote:...
Patak, americki pukovnik, Stiv Voren, jedan od americkih kljucnih ljudi za Irak i Siriju, kaze da su kurdske snage napredovale prema Mariju da bi onemogucili prodor rezima prema sjeveru.

Opet nezgodno...

Iz svega ovoga, jasno je da Kurdi nece ici na Azaz! Jos Mare i to je to.

Turci ga poflautase momacki. Jebu ih americki prijatelji u mozak.
Q: Michael or -- well, I have a question related to PYD. Yesterday, the Syrian (inaudible) told press in New York that quote, "The Syrian Kurds, supported by the American administration are also supported by the Syrian government."

And he had the victories achieved in the northern part of Syrian by Syrian army and Syrian Kurds are the victory of the Syrian government and all Syrians.

First of all, isn't weird a little bit that a U.S.-backed group is also supported by Assad regime, which you call a brutal dictatorship. And also, you say your focus is on ISIL.

That's okay, we understand that, but are you also concerned that a partner that you are supporting to fight Daesh is also up to some other political enemy (inaudible), which in fact doesn't have anything to do with the fight against ISIL?

COL. WARREN: Well, I didn't catch who made this comment in New York. I missed the name that you've said. But you know, I don't know if we've seen any evidence to indicate that the Afrin Kurds are working with the regime.

What we've seen is the Afrin Kurds are moving a little bit to the east. Really, we believe in an effort to block the regime from moving north.

Tom, if you could pull up the second map there, the Aleppo situation map, we can take a look at it. I think it's notable. So, what you've got here -- and you know, we've found this map as an FOI, found on the Internet. But we believe it is a good representation of the situation on the ground there.

I wouldn't normally get one of our maps declassified quickly enough, the situation is changing so rapidly. But this kind of gives you a picture of what the situation looks like that we generally agree with. You'll see there, kind of off to the right-hand side of your map, you'll see the purple area, which is ISIL controlled.

And towards the center, you see kind of the orange area. That's opposition force controlled territory. The orange part is really what we've been referring to as the Afrin gap. And off to the left in the yellow, and you have the -- what we're referring to as the Afrin Kurds. This is area controlled by the Afrin Kurds.

Down towards the bottom of your map, you see in green an area that's controlled by the regime. And so you had is two weeks ago, the regime kind of closed off that green portion down there. There was a little bit of green off to the left, there was a little bit of green off to the right.

Well, two weeks ago, the regime was able to close that gap. So it created a contiguous area of regime control just north of Aleppo. Aleppo is just off the map to the bottom there. So, when that happened, what we believe is that the -- then the Syrian, or the Afrin Kurds, off to the left there in the yellow, began moving from west to east in an effort to prevent the regime forces from being able to push any further north.

And so, about a week and a half ago, you can see that -- and there's no label on it, but there's a road that runs along kind of the left hand portion of the map there, a road running north-south. It's in white.

Two weeks ago, the Syrian Kurds, the Afrin Kurds were west of that road, they were to the left of that road. As you can see the progress that they've made, moving to the right of your map there from west to east, to the point now where even they've actually come into contact with ISIL, in the purple. You can see that one little spot where yellow meets purple.

So, that's kind of what has developed here over the last several days. Yes, we are concerned that forces that we're working with to focus on Daesh or focused on other things, but we certainly understand it. You know, this is a civil war.

There's a civil war going on in Syria, right now. Civil wars are messy, civil wars are complicated, civil wars have friction. Civil wars have confusion, and that's what we see playing out here.

Q: And -- and just a follow up, is there any other places on the map you can show where the PYD -- or the YPG forces are fighting ISIS, but for that line that you show in -- around, inside Afrin gap?

COL. WARREN: Well, and this is only a small piece. I guess, Tom, if you can flip to the opener map, which I don't have here for some reason. I'll just look at it on the screen.

So, that opener map there, you can see where green, throughout Syria, that is a combination of Syrian Kurds and -- the Syrian-Arab Coalition, the SAC, we call them.

So, that green area, kind in the upper left hand corner of your map there, bordered on the left -- or the west by the Euphrates River, and bordered on the right by the Iraq-Syria border. All of that stretch of green there is area controlled by a kind a combination of Kurds, who, for example, retook Kobani a year ago or more, and the SAC, the Syrian-Arab Coalition.

And so, all that green-shaded area there represents territory lost by ISIL since the beginning, since August of 2014. So, all along -- and then, of course in brown, you see areas controlled by ISIL.

So, everywhere, where green meets brown, along the northern stretch of that map, that's where -- you know, forces that we are working with are battling ISIL.

Q: Seeing that the YPG forces getting to -- (inaudible), and then move toward Azaz, where the two places that are a strong hold of the U.S.-backed opposition groups, how would you consider this?

You know, as -- groups supported by you is taking on another group that you also support?

COL. WARREN: Yeah, we want them to stop fighting each other and start fighting Daesh.

Q: Thanks, Colonel Warren. Glad to hear that you'll be getting a break soon.
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#18482 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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"Right now our airpower is focused on vetted Syrian opposition and some with moderate Syrian opposition," Warren said in a briefing. "We have not yet taken strikes in support of this group of Afrin Kurds, but it is certainly something to consider."
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God bless America, Biji Kurdistan! :thumbup: :D :D
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#18483 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Americki dobrovoljac u redovima YPG, Jordan Matson, o desavanjima u Siriji i Iraku

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"That’s where my heart will always be. That’s where I will always want to go. Until Raqqa falls, when these people don’t have a place to go to, a pot to piss in, I’ll continue to have the desire to fight. I guess that’s the way it is with all soldiers who get into these professions. I think that’s why men do multiple tours," said Matson.

For now, Matson is getting a break at home before he likely heads back to Sweden to be with his wife. He plans to start a non-profit to send medical supplies to Kurdish areas of Syria. He is once again at a crossroads in his life.

"With everything that is going on, you have your life ahead of you. You have to decide where you are going to take it. It’s time for me to do what I need to do," said Matson.

He says he knows he did the right thing by fighting in Syria.

"As long as our government is willing to turn a blind eye on some of these atrocities, for whatever reason they want to keep to themselves, I’m going to stand up for them," said Matson.
:thumbup: :thumbup:

Ovaj momak je uradio nevjerovatno puno za promicanje kurdske borbe u svijetu... Imao je niz intervjua, tribina, predavanja... hodanja sa megafonom po ulicama evropskih gradova... :D

Na kraju je co'ek ozenio Kurdkinju! :mrgreen:

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I njegov komentar od prije par dana na fb
At this moment Turkey has begun shelling the YPG north of Allepo and in hasaka as well as shelling Assads forces in lakatia in support of al Qaeda since they had lost a great deal of ground recently in a joint offensive between the YPG and syrian regime with Russian air support.
How long will the U.S. Government stand idle while another member of NATO blatantly is supporting the same organization that blew up the World Trade Center???
Has our moral compass truely fallen that far off course?
Guess we will have to look to the Russians to put an end to these jihadists and there supporters. Considering Saudi Arabia and turkey have been the two biggest financial backers of global jihadism and both happen to be close allies of the good ole U.S. Of A.
By not condemning support for these terrorist organizations in an attempt to try and save face in our choice of allies, how much better are we than them?
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#18484 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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von_admir wrote:ko da su izgubili tasnu u skolu :lol:
U.S. official confirms radioactive material missing in Iraq since November, unclear whether it was misplaced or stolen
niti je zametnut, niti izgubljen...DONIRAN!
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#18485 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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500njak miroljubivih pcelara i pripadnika slicnih udruzenja poljoprivrednog i humanitarnog karaktera, a u cilju promicanja pozitivnih zivotnih vrijednosti, preslo iz turske u siriju, opet!

http://news.yahoo.com/500-rebels-cross- ... soc_trk=tw
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#18486 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Grad Kinsabba zadnje veće teroritičko uporište u provinciji Latakia danas je oslobođeno od strane Sirijske vojske, samo naselje je prije rata brojalo oko 15 000 st. od kojeg su debela većina bili krščani, nakon skoro 3 godine okupacije od strane erdoganovih mezimaca naselje je oslobođeno a put prema Jisr-al-Shuguru i Idlebu otvoren!
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#18487 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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skyper wrote:
A massive bomb hit a military convoy in the Turkish capital yesterday,killing at least 28 people & injuring 61.
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E sada, trebala bi sirijska Armija da posalje par stotina granata na to isto mjesto u Tursku i da ga granatira, cisto da pomognu te liberalne snage koje su protiv turske teroristicke administracije i koje se bore u sred Ankare za svoja prava da ne zive u tom rezimu.

To valjda tako ide, kao sto smo vidjeli od Erdogana :?
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#18488 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Još jedan napad u Turskoj.

Kako prenosi Russia Today, napadi su bili usmjereni na vojni konvoj na jugoistoku Turske.
Ovo je drugi napad u posljednja 24 časa u Turskoj nakon što se jučer dogodila eksplozija autobombe u centru Ankare gdje je poginulo najmanje 28 osoba dok je ranjeno 61. Napad je takođe bio usmjeren na vojni konvoj.
Kako prenose turski mediji, vojni konvoj se kretao putem na relaciji Diyabakir - Bingol.


:-)
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#18489 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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KINSIBA HAS BEEN LIBERATED
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#18490 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Turska se može poselamit sa turizmom ove godine, a to je tek najblaža posljedica sulude i neshvatljive Erdoganove politike.
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#18491 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Maystor wrote:Turska se može poselamit sa turizmom ove godine, a to je tek najblaža posljedica sulude i neshvatljive Erdoganove politike.
Valjda ce Turci doci tobe pa Erdi i Devi zastekat metlu u ..kas, dok nije kasno :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#18492 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Kakvih supaka ovde ima da je to cudo...Rugati se nesreci, gdje ginu civili je odvratno, bilo da je u Siriji ili Turskoj...
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#18493 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Davutoglu: Počinilac jučerašnjeg napada u Ankari je pripadnik PKK-a a izveo ga je u saradnji sa YPG-om. Asadov režim je odgovoran za terorizam.
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#18494 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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DŽIHADISTI RAZBIJENI!

Kinsiba fully liberated by SAA :bih:

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#18495 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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sarajevoxxxx wrote:Davutoglu: Počinilac jučerašnjeg napada u Ankari je pripadnik PKK-a a izveo ga je u saradnji sa YPG-om. Asadov režim je odgovoran za terorizam.
Elhamdulillah. Nek' si predsjednice Lepi i ti njima malo posl'o.
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#18496 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Ludilo se širi ... manijakalnih likova na čelu država nikad više ....
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#18497 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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KAMI666 wrote:
skyper wrote:
A massive bomb hit a military convoy in the Turkish capital yesterday,killing at least 28 people & injuring 61.
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E sada, trebala bi sirijska Armija da posalje par stotina granata na to isto mjesto u Tursku i da ga granatira, cisto da pomognu te liberalne snage koje su protiv turske teroristicke administracije i koje se bore u sred Ankare za svoja prava da ne zive u tom rezimu.

To valjda tako ide, kao sto smo vidjeli od Erdogana :?

Mnogo mrtvih djecoubica.
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#18498 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Battles for Syria | February 17th 2016 | Aleppo province
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKE9wvu5ctA

FSA zoba oklop SAA i Kurde. :-D
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#18499 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Iz Turske u Azaz je uslo 500 dzihadista i gomila oruzja!

Eto kakvi su magarci pobunjenici. Radi turskih interesa su spremni oslabiti pozicije u Idlibu i drugim ratistima kako bi radi Turske branili neodbranjivo. Obicne turske sluge!
Jaysh Thuwwar Leader: Turkey has been supporting terrorism since the beginning of the Syrian Revolution.
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#18500 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Prvi put nakon 18 mjeseci konvoji sa hranom stigli u naselje Mademijeh u Damasku.
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