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#17501 Re: IRAN

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Nadzornik wrote:
славянин wrote: Pa rat... samo sto ovi misle da kao Ameri bjeze a rabri talibanci prsima na metke :lol: i amerikanci placu a iranci mole da poginu insala :lol:
Kako ne zaplakati kad ostavljas svoje kosti u tudjoj zemlji u nekoj glupoj vojnoj intervenciji po nalogu tvoje imperjalisticke vlade.

Ostaviti New York,Los Angeles.Miami i zavrsiti u prasini neke nepoznate zemlje.
Pa i kamen bi zaplakao.... :(
Tebi nesto nepojmljivo , ali nekom patrioti i dobrom vojniku i nije. Ti pridjevi ovakva onakva vlada to je tebi u glavi. :wink:

Image :wink: Daleko je taj svijet od tebe i onih slicnih tebi.
Dunham joined the Marine Corps in 2000. After graduating from recruit training on 27 October 2000 from Golf Company Platoon 2092, he served as a Security Force sentry at Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay in Georgia until 2003.

In early 2004, he was serving as a squad leader with 4th Platoon, Company K, 3rd Battalion, 7th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force.His unit was based in Al-Karābilah.

On 14 April 2004, the battalion commander's convoy came under attack near Husaybah, Iraq, and 4th Platoon was dispatched on patrol to investigate. Dunham and his squad intercepted a number of cars spotted near the scene of the attack, which the patrol detained to search for weapons. When the squad approached a white Toyota Land Cruiser and discovered AK-47s, the driver exited and attacked the Marines in an attempt to flee. Dunham responded by closing in for hand-to-hand combat to subdue him. During the fighting, the individual dropped an armed Mills 36M hand grenade.

Dunham, to save the rest of his men, deliberately threw himself on the grenade, attempting to use his PASGT helmet to shield himself and others from the explosion, warning the others to "watch his hands."Dunham, the insurgent, and two other Marines nearby were all wounded by grenade fragments. Although the enemy fighter recovered sufficiently to flee the scene, he was shot dead while trying to escape.[citation needed]

Corporal Dunham was severely wounded by the grenade blast, and was immediately evacuated. Within days, he arrived at National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland in a coma, where he was being treated for his injuries. After being diagnosed with brain damage and deemed unlikely to recover, he was taken off of life support eight days later, on 22 April 2004.Shortly beforehand, Commandant of the Marine Corps Michael Hagee presented Dunham with the Purple Heart. Dunham's parents were at his bedside when he died. He was buried in Fairlawn Cemetery in Scio.
Mali primjer :wink:
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#17502 Re: IRAN

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Nadzornik wrote:
славянин wrote: Pa rat... samo sto ovi misle da kao Ameri bjeze a rabri talibanci prsima na metke :lol: i amerikanci placu a iranci mole da poginu insala :lol:
Kako ne zaplakati kad ostavljas svoje kosti u tudjoj zemlji u nekoj glupoj vojnoj intervenciji po nalogu tvoje imperjalisticke vlade.
Jel to vazi i za iranske trupe u Siriji? :oops:
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#17503 Re: IRAN

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славянин wrote: Mali primjer :wink:
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JASON DUNHAM,americki kaplar koji je hrabro poginuo u Iraku braneci svoju domovinu... :-)

Eh koliko ce samo biti takvih Dunhana koji ce zijaniti u Iranu braneci svoju domovinu USA.

E sto mrzim patriote koji na mom kucnom pragu ispoljavaju svoj patriotizam i u moju kucu uvode demokratiju i to sve bez mog pitanja i
mog odobrenja.

Kako mu sad zena sa ponosom pokazuje njegova odlikovanja i medalje novom ljubavniku koji takodje voli patriote... :D
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#17504 Re: IRAN

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madner wrote:
salik79 wrote:
madner wrote: Ne citam wikipedije, a pdf koji sam postavio je autorativniji izvor iz kojeg se uci o tom ratu. Fino to pise, imas slike, Iracani su vodali strane novinare da im pokazu pljen.
Koji autoritativniji? Ko je taj autoritet?
Knjiga sa izvorima, prvo izdanje izaslo jos 1990.

https://www.amazon.com/Lessons-Modern-W ... 0813309557

Nije valjda da Iranci ne spominju kako su ih nataburali na kraju?

Prvi komentar ispod:
This is by far the best book you can find on the subject, for military history buffs like myself you will love it as it goes in great detail about both iraq's and iran's military situation. I learned far more from this book to get an insight on how each army operated and what their major falts were. Each side fought bravely and in the end no one really won and iraq was 80 billion in debt to her neighbors. Reading this book is like being in the room with the generals of their army's, seeing their mistakes and their cunning ideas, where they got their equipment from and more. I hope this review helps some one buy this book, because you wont be dissipointed.

Ne spominju. Jedino spominju da su ih onako, jos dok su u rasulu bili, poceli tamburat. Ovaj se odmah dosjetio oruzja za masovno unistenje, pa se zadao nabavljati ga od "saveznika" i, cak, nesto i proizvoditi. "Saveznicima" to nije smetalo, dapace. Osim sto je opskrbljivan, dobivao je i sve vojno-obavjestajne podatke. Kasnije je dosla i direktna vojna podrska, koja je kulminirala obaranjem civilnog aviona, u kojem se nalazilo 290 putnika. Kazu da su ga na radaru "pobrkali" sa borbenim avionom. :oops: Cak je komandant posade broda, koji ga je pogodio, odlikovan najvisim vojnim odlikovanjem. Ne znam sta pise u knjizi o tome?
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#17505 Re: IRAN

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jeza u ledja wrote:
Jel to vazi i za iranske trupe u Siriji? :oops:
Ne vazi jer su Iranske trupe u Siriji dobrodosle,pozvane od Sirijskog naroda i vlade a ne okupatori... :thumbup:
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#17506 Re: IRAN

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славянин wrote:
salik79 wrote:I da primjetim - ti si prva osoba za koju sam cuo da ne cita wikipedije.
Evo wikipedija:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Iraq_War
Iranian counteroffensive
Faced with such losses, Khomeini appointed the cleric Hashemi Rafsanjani as the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, though he had in actuality occupied that position for months.[138] Rafsanjani ordered a last desperate counter-attack into Iraq, which was launched 13 June 1988. The Iranians infiltrated through the Iraqi trenches and moved 10 km (6.2 mi) into Iraq and managed to strike Saddam's presidential palace in Baghdad using fighter aircraft.[49] After three days of fighting, the decimated Iranians were driven back to their original positions again as the Iraqis launched 650 helicopter and 300 aircraft sorties.[138]

Operation Forty Stars
On 18 June, Iraq launched Operation Forty Stars (چل چراغ chehel cheragh) in conjunction to the Mujahideen-e-Khalq (MEK) around Mehran. With 530 aircraft sorties and heavy use of nerve gas, they crushed the Iranian forces in the area, killing 3,500 and nearly destroying a Revolutionary Guard division.[138] Mehran was captured once again and occupied by the MEK.[138] Iraq also launched air raids on Iranian population centers and economic targets, setting 10 oil installations on fire.[138]

Tawakalna ala Allah operations
Main article: Tawakalna ala Allah Operations
On 25 May 1988, Iraq launched the first of five Tawakalna ala Allah (Trust in God) Operations,[88] consisting of one of the largest artillery barrages in history, coupled with chemical weapons. The marshes had been dried by drought, allowing the Iraqis to use tanks to bypass Iranian field fortifications, expelling the Iranians from the border town of Shalamcheh after less than 10 hours of combat.[51]:11[67]:265[138]


Iranian soldiers captured during Iraq's 1988 offensives
On 25 June, Iraq launched the second Tawakal ala Allah operation against the Iranians on Majnoon Island. Iraqi commandos used amphibious craft to block the Iranian rear,[49] then used hundreds of tanks with massed conventional and chemical artillery barrages to recapture the island after 8 hours of combat.[88][138] Saddam appeared live on Iraqi television to "lead" the charge against the Iranians.[138] The majority of the Iranian defenders were killed during the quick assault.[88] The final two Tawakal ala Allah operations took place near al-Amarah and Khaneqan.[88] By 12 July, the Iraqis had captured the city of Dehloran, 30 km (19 mi) inside Iran, along with 2,500 troops and much armour and material, which took four days to transport to Iraq. These losses included more than 570 of the 1,000 remaining Iranian tanks, over 430 armored vehicles, 45 self-propelled artillery, 300 towed artillery pieces, and 320 antiaircraft guns. These figures only included what Iraq could actually put to use; total amount of captured materiel was higher. Since March, the Iraqis claimed to captured 1,298 tanks, 155 infantry fighting vehicles, 512 heavy artillery pieces, 6,196 mortars, 5,550 recoilless rifles and light guns, 8,050 man-portable rocket launchers, 60,694 rifles, 322 pistols, 454 trucks, and 1,600 light vehicles.[138] The Iraqis withdrew from Dehloran soon after, claiming that they had "no desire to conquer Iranian territory."[49] History professor Kaveh Farrokh considered this to be Iran's greatest military disaster during the war. Stephen Pelletier, a Journalist, Middle East expert, and Author, noted that "Tawakal ala Allah … resulted in the absolute destruction of Iran's military machine."[49]

During the 1988 battles, the Iranians put up little resistance to the Iraqi offensives, having been worn out by nearly eight years of war.[67]:253 They lost large amounts of equipment but they managed to rescue most of their troops from being captured by the Iraqis, leaving Iraq with relatively few prisoners.[49] On 2 July, Iran belatedly set up a joint central command which unified the Revolutionary Guard, Army, and Kurdish rebels, and dispelled the rivalry between the Army and the Revolutionary Guard. However, this came too late, and due to the capture of 570 of their operable tanks and the destruction of hundreds more, Iran was believed to have fewer than 200 remaining operable tanks on the southern front, faced against thousands of Iraqi ones.[138] The only area where the Iranians were not suffering major defeats was in Kurdistan.[105]

Iran accepts the ceasefire
Saddam sent a warning to Khomeini in mid-1988, threatening to launch a new and powerful full-scale invasion and attack Iranian cities with weapons of mass destruction. Shortly afterwards, Iraqi aircraft bombed the Iranian town of Oshnavieh with poison gas, immediately killing and wounding over 2,000 civilians. The fear of an all out chemical attack against Iran's largely unprotected civilian population weighed heavily on the Iranian leadership, and they realized that the international community had no intention of restraining Iraq.[146] The lives of the civilian population of Iran were becoming very disrupted, with a third of the urban population evacuating major cities in fear of the seemingly imminent chemical war. Meanwhile, Iraqi conventional bombs and missiles continuously hit towns and cities, as well as destroyed vital civilian and military infrastructure, and the death toll increased. Iran did reply with missile and air attacks as well, but not enough to deter the Iraqis from attacking.[138]

Under the threat of a new and even more powerful invasion, Commander-in-Chief Rafsanjani ordered the Iranians to retreat from Haj Omran, Kurdistan on 14 July.[138][147] The Iranians did not publicly describe this as a retreat, instead calling it a "temporary withdrawal".[147] By July, Iran's army inside Iraq (except Kurdistan) had largely disintegrated.[49] Iraq put up a massive display of captured Iranian weapons in Baghdad, claiming they captured 1,298 tanks, 5,550 recoil-less rifles, and thousands of other weapons.[138] However, Iraq had taken heavy losses as well, and the battles were very costly.[88]

In July 1988, Iraqi aircraft dropped bombs on the Iranian Kurdish village of Zardan. Dozens of villages, such as Sardasht, and some larger towns, such as Marivan, Baneh and Saqqez,[148] were once again attacked with poison gas, resulting in even heavier civilian casualties.[149] About the same time, the USS Vincennes shot down Iran Air Flight 655, killing 290 passengers and crew. The lack of international sympathy disturbed the Iranian leadership, and they came to the conclusion that the United States was on the verge of waging a full-scale war against them, and that Iraq was on the verge of unleashing its entire chemical arsenal upon their cities.[146]

At this point, elements of the Iranian leadership, led by Rafsanjani (who had initially pushed for the extension of the war), persuaded Khomeini to accept the ceasefire.[51] They stated that in order to win the war, Iran's military budget would have to be increased by 700% and the war would last until 1993.[138] On 20 July 1988, Iran accepted Resolution 598, showing its willingness to accept a ceasefire.[51]:11 A statement from Khomeini was read out in a radio address, and he expressed deep displeasure and reluctance about accepting the ceasefire,

Happy are those who have departed through martyrdom. Happy are those who have lost their lives in this convoy of light. Unhappy am I that I still survive and have drunk the poisoned chalice...[51][95]:1

The news of the end of the war was greeted with celebration in Baghdad, with people dancing in the streets; in Tehran, however, the end of the war was greeted with a somber mood.[95]:1
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Zanimljivo kako "medjunarodnu zajednicu" nije smetala neprestana upotreba oruzja za masovno unistenje, pogotovo na civilnim ciljevima. :oops:

Takodjer, zanimljivo kako niko od "medjunarodnih faktora" nije nikada barem "pohvalio" Iran zbog sustezanja od upotrebe istog. (Ne postoji niti jedan jedini zabiljezeni slucaj da je Iran upotrijebio "hemiju", iako bi neki to voljeli). A svi znamo sta je upotreba oruzja za masovno unistenje znacila u prvom Svjetskom ratu.
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#17507 Re: IRAN

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Pa dje Rusija tu da pomaze i Kina ? :?

A Bojni otrovi nisu nesto promijenili tok 1. sv rata osim sto su uzrokovali zrtve na obje strane - zasto nisu koristeni u 2. sv ratu ako je toliko presudno hemijsko oruzije ?
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#17508 Re: IRAN

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славянин wrote:Pa dje Rusija tu da pomaze i Kina ? :?

A Bojni otrovi nisu nesto promijenili tok 1. sv rata osim sto su uzrokovali zrtve na obje strane - zasto nisu koristeni u 2. sv ratu ako je toliko presudno hemijsko oruzije ?

Sovjetski savez i Kina su bili cak protiv Irana.

O zrtvama i jeste rijec. Pogotovo kada su civili u pitanju. Upotreba je zabranjena odmah nakon 1. Svj rata.

Dakle, po tebi je to ok sto je Sadam masovno koristio hemijsko oruzje? Ali, kada ameri invaziju opravdaju istim, to ti opet odgovara. Kako to?
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#17509 Re: IRAN

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славянин wrote:Pa dje Rusija tu da pomaze i Kina ? :?

A Bojni otrovi nisu nesto promijenili tok 1. sv rata osim sto su uzrokovali zrtve na obje strane - zasto nisu koristeni u 2. sv ratu ako je toliko presudno hemijsko oruzije ?
Zato sto je onaj kepec imao pataloski strah od hemijskog oruzja.
Imali su ga nijemci na hiljade tona i svaki njemacki vojnik je imao gas-masku ali nikad nije upotrebljeno hemijsko oruzje.
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#17510 Re: IRAN

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salik79 wrote:
славянин wrote:Pa dje Rusija tu da pomaze i Kina ? :?

A Bojni otrovi nisu nesto promijenili tok 1. sv rata osim sto su uzrokovali zrtve na obje strane - zasto nisu koristeni u 2. sv ratu ako je toliko presudno hemijsko oruzije ?

Sovjetski savez i Kina su bili cak protiv Irana.

O zrtvama i jeste rijec. Pogotovo kada su civili u pitanju. Upotreba je zabranjena odmah nakon 1. Svj rata.

Dakle, po tebi je to ok sto je Sadam masovno koristio hemijsko oruzje? Ali, kada ameri invaziju opravdaju istim, to ti opet odgovara. Kako to?
....

Mislis da sto je nesto zabranjeno da nebi bilo koristeno u ratu ??? :lol: Pa hemijske arsenale supersile i danas posjeduju.

Naravno da nije ali ne sumnjam da je Iran imao da bi ga upotrijebio .. u takvom "opcem" ratu nema pravila.
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Nadzornik wrote:
славянин wrote:Pa dje Rusija tu da pomaze i Kina ? :?

A Bojni otrovi nisu nesto promijenili tok 1. sv rata osim sto su uzrokovali zrtve na obje strane - zasto nisu koristeni u 2. sv ratu ako je toliko presudno hemijsko oruzije ?
Zato sto je onaj kepec imao pataloski strah od hemijskog oruzja.
Imali su ga nijemci na hiljade tona i svaki njemacki vojnik je imao gas-masku ali nikad nije upotrebljeno hemijsko oruzje.
A staljin fin pa ono "ma necu ja hemijskim" :lol: , procitaj zakljucak u 1.sv da je hemijsko oruzije samo dalo zrtve bez taktickog uspjeha ili prevage u operacijama.
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#17512 Re: IRAN

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славянин wrote: A staljin fin pa ono "ma necu ja hemijskim" :lol: , procitaj zakljucak u 1.sv da je hemijsko oruzije samo dalo zrtve bez taktickog uspjeha ili prevage u operacijama.
Kao i nuklearno oruzje danas,necu ga koristiti ali neka ga,zlu netrebalo.
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Nadzornik wrote:
славянин wrote: A staljin fin pa ono "ma necu ja hemijskim" :lol: , procitaj zakljucak u 1.sv da je hemijsko oruzije samo dalo zrtve bez taktickog uspjeha ili prevage u operacijama.
Kao i nuklearno oruzje danas,necu ga koristiti ali neka ga,zlu netrebalo.
Pa ako je zabranjeno onda znaci ne mogu ga koristiti :lol: barem tako ide teza od vas ? U velikim ratovima , nema pravila nego ako neka strana vidi da ce nesto donijeti prednost... pogodi sta ce se desiti :D
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#17514 Re: IRAN

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Nadzornik wrote:
jeza u ledja wrote:
Jel to vazi i za iranske trupe u Siriji? :oops:
Ne vazi jer su Iranske trupe u Siriji dobrodosle,pozvane od Sirijskog naroda i vlade a ne okupatori... :thumbup:
Aha jest jest, sirijski narod ih pozvo. :lol: I u Juznom Vijetnamu ili Juznoj Koreji su Amerikanci bili uz amin vlasti. Kako god, ne mijenja cinjenicu da ostavljas kosti na tudjoj zemlji u sukobu koji nikakve veze nema sa tvojom domovinom. Iran regionalno radi isto sto i vece sile globalno samo tesko je to priznat, ee. :wink:
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jeza u ledja wrote: Iran regionalno radi isto sto i vece sile globalno samo tesko je to priznat, ee. :wink:
Samo sto Iran to radi u manjem obimu i u svrhu zastite svoje zemlje a ne da bi neku drugu zemlju porobio i unistio.
Pomaze Hezbolah i Hamas i isporucuje im oruzje da bi se Palestinci i Libanci mogli odbraniti a ne da bi unistio Izrael.
Iran je slao oruzje i Armiji BiH ali ne da bi ona unistila Srbiju i Srbe ili Hrvatsku i Hrvate nego da bi se narod mogao odbraniti... :bih:


Ustati i spomenuti Iran... :bih:
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Doni Tramp je odlucio slomiti kicmu mulanskom rezimu:
President Trump will announce today an Executive Order imposing new sanctions on Iran’s iron, steel, aluminum, and copper sectors. Congress has been notified. Announcement coming.
Slijede brutalne sankcije i potpuna izolacija Irana.

Ostaje nada da ce iranski narodi ustati i srusiti rezim. Iran je znanjem i rezursima bogata zemlja, uz novu vlast bi brzo napredovali i dosegli standard najrazvijenih drzava svijeta.
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Kikibombona wrote: Ostaje nada da ce iranski narodi ustati i srusiti rezim. Iran je znanjem i rezursima bogata zemlja, uz novu vlast bi brzo napredovali i dosegli standard najrazvijenih drzava svijeta.
Aha a pola tzv. Irana ce dati Kurdima na upravu... :-)

Doni,Doni ko te ne zna... :D
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Kikibombona wrote:Doni Tramp je odlucio slomiti kicmu mulanskom rezimu:
President Trump will announce today an Executive Order imposing new sanctions on Iran’s iron, steel, aluminum, and copper sectors. Congress has been notified. Announcement coming.
Slijede brutalne sankcije i potpuna izolacija Irana.

Ostaje nada da ce iranski narodi ustati i srusiti rezim. Iran je znanjem i rezursima bogata zemlja, uz novu vlast bi brzo napredovali i dosegli standard najrazvijenih drzava svijeta.
Inflacija u Iranu
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Nakon sto je Majki Pompeo zaprijetio Iraku da mora raskinuti sve odnose sa Iranom uslijedilo je:

Bagdad i Ekson blizu potpisvanja ugovora vrijednog 53 milijarde dolara
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Postavis mu relevantan dio za zavrsnu godinu rata, on cita komentar. :D
Ima i obaranje aviona.
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#17521 Re: IRAN

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Nadzornik wrote:
jeza u ledja wrote: Iran regionalno radi isto sto i vece sile globalno samo tesko je to priznat, ee. :wink:
Samo sto Iran to radi u manjem obimu i u svrhu zastite svoje zemlje a ne da bi neku drugu zemlju porobio i unistio.
Pomaze Hezbolah i Hamas i isporucuje im oruzje da bi se Palestinci i Libanci mogli odbraniti a ne da bi unistio Izrael.
Iran je slao oruzje i Armiji BiH ali ne da bi ona unistila Srbiju i Srbe ili Hrvatsku i Hrvate nego da bi se narod mogao odbraniti... :bih:


Ustati i spomenuti Iran... :bih:
Aha, trupama u Siriji stite Iran :oops: , a Hamas i Hezbolah im odgovaraju jer zele unistenje Izraela. Takodje pomazu Hute u Jemenu jer stite Iran. :oops: Amerika mase prstom prema Iranu jer su ovi prijetnja Izraelu i Saudiji.
Prostiru se koliko su dugi i sire svoj uticaj u regionu, na isti nacin kao sto rade velike sile globalno. U cemu je razlika?

U stvari razlika je jedino u tome sto Iranci i dalje uspjesno svojoj publici prodaju pricu o tome kako je jedino njihova borba pravedna, a svi ostali zli i naopaki. Na Zapadu malo ko u to vjeruje, sto se tice svojih zemalja. To je vrijeme davno proslo, ali jebiga vama niko jos da javi.
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славянин wrote:
salik79 wrote:
славянин wrote:Pa dje Rusija tu da pomaze i Kina ? :?

A Bojni otrovi nisu nesto promijenili tok 1. sv rata osim sto su uzrokovali zrtve na obje strane - zasto nisu koristeni u 2. sv ratu ako je toliko presudno hemijsko oruzije ?

Sovjetski savez i Kina su bili cak protiv Irana.

O zrtvama i jeste rijec. Pogotovo kada su civili u pitanju. Upotreba je zabranjena odmah nakon 1. Svj rata.

Dakle, po tebi je to ok sto je Sadam masovno koristio hemijsko oruzje? Ali, kada ameri invaziju opravdaju istim, to ti opet odgovara. Kako to?
....

Mislis da sto je nesto zabranjeno da nebi bilo koristeno u ratu ??? :lol: Pa hemijske arsenale supersile i danas posjeduju.

Naravno da nije ali ne sumnjam da je Iran imao da bi ga upotrijebio .. u takvom "opcem" ratu nema pravila.
Kao Iran ga nije mogao nabaviti (sve se da nabaviti), ili proizvesti (ako nista, ono hlorom punjene granate i rakete), da je to htio?!
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jeza u ledja wrote:
Nadzornik wrote:
jeza u ledja wrote:
Jel to vazi i za iranske trupe u Siriji? :oops:
Ne vazi jer su Iranske trupe u Siriji dobrodosle,pozvane od Sirijskog naroda i vlade a ne okupatori... :thumbup:
Aha jest jest, sirijski narod ih pozvo. :lol: I u Juznom Vijetnamu ili Juznoj Koreji su Amerikanci bili uz amin vlasti. Kako god, ne mijenja cinjenicu da ostavljas kosti na tudjoj zemlji u sukobu koji nikakve veze nema sa tvojom domovinom. Iran regionalno radi isto sto i vece sile globalno samo tesko je to priznat, ee. :wink:
Da, pozvani od strane zvanicne vlade Sirijske Arapske Republike. Ko je Amere zvanicno pozvao u Vijetnam, ili Koreju?
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#17524 Re: IRAN

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@jez lafo ozbiljan i trudi se u argumentiranju svojih stavova... Hezbollah je antibiotik za cionizam, najbolji!
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#17525 Re: IRAN

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Pomoc Amerike kazes? Mislis na Iran Contra? :oops:
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