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lajkujMe wrote:

Cyrax wrote:

lajkujMe wrote:
Ono sto mi je zapalo za oko u ovom konfliktu je da nema kao u Siriji ili sada u Iraku ovih masovnih progona i klanja civila mislim bar ja to nisam upratio osim pokojih optuzbi za neselektivno granatiranje i tako to.

Ali nema logora, nema izvjestaja da je ijedna strana nakon zauzimanja teritorija pocela masovno strijeljati lokalce...

Ukrajinci ubijaju ukrajince i ruse ukrajinske gradove ukrajinskim oruzjem.

Da to se zove rat kralju, rat se ne vodi klikerima nego bombama. Govorim o sistematskom ubijanju civila kao npr u Srebrenici, Podrinju, itd itd kod nas....

Co0l wrote:Nema sta duze trajat,ruski cetnici vec likvidiraju zarobljene ukrajinske vojnike kojima su ruke svezane po oprobanom cetnickom obicaju:

daxon wrote:

Co0l wrote:Nema sta duze trajat,ruski cetnici vec likvidiraju zarobljene ukrajinske vojnike kojima su ruke svezane po oprobanom cetnickom obicaju:

Inače se ruke vežu sa prednje strane i prvim zavojem
Da išta znaš, znao bi da je ovo vezivanje ruku u tzv. "mrtvački položaj" mrtvacima humana gesta, gesta ljudi koji poštuju mrtvaca, znao bi da ukoliko mrtvacima na ovaj način ne svežu ruke, tada bi ih kasnije morali lomiti da bi stao u kovčeg, jer ako prođe neko vrijeme, a on mrtav leži raširenih ruku, tada ih se više ne može po hrišćanskom običaju staviti u "mrtvački položaj", ruke se tada moraju lomiti, a tijelo skrnaviti,

Prema tome, tvoja kenjaža o vezanim i zarobljenim, pa pobijenim ukrajinskim vojnicima, pije vode samo naivnim debilima kojima je CNN, BBC i al-lažira izvršio kompletnu lobotomiju

Co0l wrote:Nema sta duze trajat,ruski cetnici vec likvidiraju zarobljene ukrajinske vojnike kojima su ruke svezane po oprobanom cetnickom obicaju:

dječak sa šibicama wrote:Epic fail, sto bi rekli neki...

kanaan wrote: Jesi siguran da su vladine snage? Vidjeh i šeparatiste sa istim uniformama,haj im ga znaj ko je u pitanju?!

Questions:

Naked aggression by whom? Who started this mess?
Who fomented the overthrow of former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych.? Was it Russia or the US?
What country reneged on promises to not expand NATO into Eastern Europe? Was it Russia or the US?
What country has satellite coverage of the region and has failed to produce any evidence as to where Buk missile launchers were on the day MH17 crashed? Russia or the US?
What country stood the most to gain from the downing of MH17?
Why was MH17 rerouted far from its normal flight path to fly directly over a war zone?

But what the heck? Let's ignore all those pointed questions. Let's also ignore the Gulf of Tonkin resolution in Vietnam, an asinine war in Iraq, support for "moderate" rebels in Syria who in retrospect turned out to be Isis members, horrific errors in Afghanistan, lies that led us into war with Iraq, US involvement in the overthrow of the Shah of Iran, etc., etc..

And with virtually no evidence presented, please wrap yourself in the US flag, along with president Obama and senator John McCain, and believe every lie the US has to tell.
Read more at http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot. ... CjX8zKH.99

The politics of escalation does not have a realistic goal – and harms German interests.
Newspapers we thought to be all about thoughts and ideas now march in lock-step with politicians in their calls for sanctions against Russia's President Putin. Even the headlines betray an aggressive tension as is usually characteristic of hooligans when they 'support' their respective teams. The Tagesspiegel: “Enough talk!“ The FAZ: “Show strength“. The Süddeutsche Zeitung: “Now or never.“ The Spiegel calls for an “End to cowardice“: “Putin's web of lies, propaganda, and deception has been exposed. The wreckage of MH 17 is also the result of a crashed diplomacy.“
Our purpose is to wipe off some of the foam that has formed on the debating mouths, to steal words from the mouths of both the rabble-rousers and the roused, and put new words there instead. One word that has become disused of late is this: realism.
Germany has waged war against its eastern neighbor twice in the past 100 years. The German soul, which we generally claim to be on the romantic side, showed its cruel side.
The politics of escalation show that Europe sorely misses a realistic goal. It's a different thing in the US. Threats and posturing are simply part of the election preparations. When Hillary Clinton compares Putin with Hitler, she does so only to appeal to the Republican vote, i.e. people who do not own a passport. For many of them, Hitler is the only foreigner they know, which is why Adolf Putin is a very welcome fictitious campaign effigy. In this respect, Clinton and Obama have a realistic goal: to appeal to the people, to win elections, to win another Democratic presidency.
Even the idea that economic pressure and political isolation would bring Russia to its knees was not really thought all the way through. Even if we could succeed: what good would Russia be on its knees? How can you want to live together in the European house with a humiliated people whose elected leadership is treated like a pariah and whose citizens you might have to support in the coming winter.
It is not too late for the duo Merkel/Steinmeier to use the concepts and ideas of this time. It does not make sense to just follow the strategically idea-less Obama. Everyone can see how he and Putin are driving like in a dream directly towards a sign which reads: Dead End.
Demonizing Putin is not a policy. It is an alibi for the lack thereof. He advises condensing conflicts, i.e. to make them smaller, shrink them, and then distill them into a solution. At the moment (and for a long time before that) America is doing the opposite. All conflicts are escalated. The attack of a terror group named Al Qaida is turned into a global campaign against Islam. Iraq is bombed using dubious justifications. Then the US Air Force flies on to Afghanistan and Pakistan. The relationship to the Islamic world can safely be considered damaged.
The American tendency to verbal and then also military escalation, the isolation, demonization, and attacking of enemies has not proven effective. The last successful major military action the US conducted was the Normandy landing. Everything else – Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan – was a clear failure.

daxon wrote:Sjetimo se ponovo malezijskog aviona, neko kao da želi da se što prije zaboravi. Puno je pitanja bez odgovora, čak i američke patriote poput Ron Paula su zbunjene, bez obzira ko koga simpatiše, bez obzira ko koga mrzi, neka pitanja zaslužuju odgovore.
Međutim, kada onaj ko izvjesno zna odgovore, ne želi da ih prezentira, onda tu definitivno nešto smrdi, a smrad dopire od onoga ko ne želi da otvori karte.
http://rt.com/usa/179284-ron-paul-mh17-ukraine/

GAU8 wrote:"RUSSIA TODAY" ...

daxon wrote:Sjetimo se ponovo malezijskog aviona, neko kao da želi da se što prije zaboravi. Puno je pitanja bez odgovora, čak i američke patriote poput Ron Paula su zbunjene, bez obzira ko koga simpatiše, bez obzira ko koga mrzi, neka pitanja zaslužuju odgovore.
Međutim, kada onaj ko izvjesno zna odgovore, ne želi da ih prezentira, onda tu definitivno nešto smrdi, a smrad dopire od onoga ko ne želi da otvori karte.
http://rt.com/usa/179284-ron-paul-mh17-ukraine/

Challenger__ wrote:

GAU8 wrote:"RUSSIA TODAY" ...

Ma nemoj.

Bivši senator Ron Paul i otac senatora Randa Paula, jasno i glasno kaže da Vašington "vjerovatno krije istinu" o oborenom malezijskom avionu. Ali, tebe to ne interesuje, ti osporavaš glasnika.

Tvoja pristrasnost postaje patetična.

GAU8 wrote:

daxon wrote:Sjetimo se ponovo malezijskog aviona, neko kao da želi da se što prije zaboravi. Puno je pitanja bez odgovora, čak i američke patriote poput Ron Paula su zbunjene, bez obzira ko koga simpatiše, bez obzira ko koga mrzi, neka pitanja zaslužuju odgovore.
Međutim, kada onaj ko izvjesno zna odgovore, ne želi da ih prezentira, onda tu definitivno nešto smrdi, a smrad dopire od onoga ko ne želi da otvori karte.
http://rt.com/usa/179284-ron-paul-mh17-ukraine/

"RUSSIA TODAY" ...

Challenger__ wrote:seljo, lose ti ide guglanje. Utvrdi gradivo, pa navrati ponovo. Do tada, krevelji se materi.

daxon wrote:Sjetimo se ponovo malezijskog aviona, neko kao da želi da se što prije zaboravi. Puno je pitanja bez odgovora, čak i američke patriote poput Ron Paula su zbunjene, bez obzira ko koga simpatiše, bez obzira ko koga mrzi, neka pitanja zaslužuju odgovore.
Međutim, kada onaj ko izvjesno zna odgovore, ne želi da ih prezentira, onda tu definitivno nešto smrdi, a smrad dopire od onoga ko ne želi da otvori karte.
http://rt.com/usa/179284-ron-paul-mh17-ukraine/