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karanana wrote: ↑21/06/2023 16:26 1. odakle ukrajincima piloti da bi imali 150-200 f-ova aktivnih? ne znam tacne brojeve ali je pitanje koliko je ukrajina imala pilota i za svoje avione. mnogi su na zalost nastradali. preobrazba ovih pilota ce uzeti vremena i pitanje je koliko ce dobri biti na novim tipovima. mozda i hoce ne znam kolika je razlika. a da krenes dizati pilota od nule, potrebno je vjerovatno 3-4 godine
2. po cemu bi to f-ovi donijeli prevagu na nebu? ruska pvo je poprilicno dobra, ako su srbi rusili f-ove sa stvarima iz 1960ih, ne znam sto rusi ne bi mogli. jedino sto bi mogli sa daljine lansirati one glidere i sto bi eventualno mogli raditi poteze koje i sada rade: letiti nisko i onda uperiti kljun nagore i uz bismilu na pamet uputiti nege rakete u okvirnom smjeru rusa.

karanana wrote: ↑21/06/2023 16:26 1. odakle ukrajincima piloti da bi imali 150-200 f-ova aktivnih? ne znam tacne brojeve ali je pitanje koliko je ukrajina imala pilota i za svoje avione. mnogi su na zalost nastradali. preobrazba ovih pilota ce uzeti vremena i pitanje je koliko ce dobri biti na novim tipovima. mozda i hoce ne znam kolika je razlika. a da krenes dizati pilota od nule, potrebno je vjerovatno 3-4 godine
2. po cemu bi to f-ovi donijeli prevagu na nebu? ruska pvo je poprilicno dobra, ako su srbi rusili f-ove sa stvarima iz 1960ih, ne znam sto rusi ne bi mogli. jedino sto bi mogli sa daljine lansirati one glidere i sto bi eventualno mogli raditi poteze koje i sada rade: letiti nisko i onda uperiti kljun nagore i uz bismilu na pamet uputiti nege rakete u okvirnom smjeru rusa.

lajkujMe wrote: ↑21/06/2023 15:33

madner wrote: ↑21/06/2023 15:22

Hajmo redom:
37. mornaricka od prvog dana kod Novodonetska.
21. mehanizovana Mala Tokmacka
33. mehanizovana Orahovac
32. isto
47. mehanizovana skupa su

82 padobranska, lahka udarna kazu da je kod Velike Novoslike i da je izgubila koji Striker.

Slika?

Gandalf wrote: ↑21/06/2023 06:00

pici wrote: ↑21/06/2023 09:27[...] Zapad se je najvise plasio da nuklerake ne padnu u krive ruke, zato su i razoruzali Ukrajinu od nuklearki. [...]

pici wrote:[...] Kina nije prijetnja europi i ona je tigar od papira, kojeg su zapadne zemlje iskoristile kao zemlju za proizvodnju i sirovine za jeftine i dostupne uredjaje. [...]

sumirprimus wrote: ↑21/06/2023 11:10



5/ Understanding the integration of informational warfare with kinetic military actions during the active phase of war is crucial. The concept of an active defense strategy seeks to impede the adversary's ability to launch a successful offensive to secure a definitive victory

6/ Although this primarily applies to scenarios where Russia directly confronts technologically superior forces like NATO, in my view, this fundamental concept can be extended beyond the initial or early stages of warfare with superior force.

7/ If effectively implemented, active defense strategy would force a war with high levels of attrition, where combination of defensive and offensive operations, would enable Russia to maintain the initiative and exert control over the course of the conflict.

8/ This core concept is grounded in the belief that the United States or other adversaries may lack the necessary political determination to engage in a protracted conflict, especially when the objectives are limited and accompanied by significant costs and risks of escalation.

9/ The primary objective is to compel the russian adversary into a prolonged attritional conflict through a combination of military and non-military strategies, inflicting substantial costs, and ultimately prompting them to seek the termination of the war
10/ Non-military means, such as psychological and informational operations, employed in the Russian military strategy, play a vital role in shaping the adversary's perception of the war. These operations contribute to the achievement of both military and political objectives.

11/ David Sacks and individuals sharing similar perspectives, whether willingly or unwillingly, effectively serve as a designated tool that promotes the termination of the conflict on terms favorable to Russia under the pretext of being a peace-seeking party.

12/ David utilizes manipulation tactics to influence the audience's perception, implying that the responsibility for the war's continuation rests with Washington rather than Moscow. This disregards the fact that Ukrainian people see this war as an existential.
13/ This approach facilitates Russia, a major adversary of the United States, in undermining support for Ukraine within the US. Consequently, it aids Russia in achieving its military and political objectives at the expense of Ukrainian territories and population.

14/ While I refrain from making statements about whether individuals are russian tools voluntarily, it is important to say that military strategy incorporates operational warfare, which can exploit internal political struggles within an adversary to achieve military objectives

Zanimljiv tred o ruskom kako kazu informacijskm ratovanju...

SanskiBiser wrote: ↑21/06/2023 17:23

ih kad se sjetim komentara pojedinaca na temi tokom zadnjih godinu dana "instagramuse", "propaganda za zapad" (feminizam i te price), "sta ce zene u vojsci ko ce radjati djecu" u tom fazonu....

sumirprimus wrote: ↑21/06/2023 17:16

Spoiler

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Op op zna prigozin
Pyatikhatki, Urozhaine, the northern part of Robotyne - under the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Huge chunks have been given to Ukraine.
The AFU is located above Tokmak in the village of Sadove, and God forbid, if this is some kind of single group of 50-100 people.

There is no control, no weapons, no ammunition, soldiers write letters that they need shells, anti-tank weapons, grenades, armor-piercing cartridges.

On the sly from everyone, so that not a single military commander gets there, any information is shut up. The Armed forces of Ukraine go towards Molochny Liman. If they go there, most of the territories captured during the so-called. "SVO" will be returned.
AFU begin to cross the Dnieper. The first ommandos appear in Hola Prystan. All this is completely hidden from everyone

Vjerujemo li?
Prigožin:

Pyatikhatki, Harvest, sjeverni dio Rabotina - pod Oružanim snagama Ukrajine. Ogromni komadi su dati Ukrajini.

APU se nalazi iznad Tokmaka u selu Sadovoje, i ne daj Bože, ako se radi o nekakvoj pojedinačnoj grupi od 50-100 ljudi.

Nema kontrole, nema oružja, nema municije, vojnici pišu pisma da im trebaju granate, protutenkovska oružja, granate, panciri.

Potajno od svih, da ni jedan vojni zapovjednik ne stigne, svaka informacija se prešućuje. Oružane snage Ukrajine idu prema Moločnom Limanu. Odu li tamo, većina teritorija osvojenih tijekom tzv. "SVO" će biti vraćeno.

AFU počinju prelaziti Dnjepar. Prvi DRG-ovi pojavljuju se u Golom Pristanu. Sve je to potpuno skriveno od svih.

Rusija će se jednog dana probuditi i saznati da je Krim već predan Ukrajincima.

Sve se to događa u pozadini gubitaka. Vojnik se ne može boriti kada je u postrojbi manjak ljudstva 50-60%.

Sve što rukovodstvo "SVO" radi je žongliranje činjenicama kako bi poslali lijepa izvješća u Moskvu.

"SVO" se provodi po cijenu potpunog uništenja vojske. Za što? Pa da neki Švonder dobije maršalsku zvijezdu. Da se naslika na freskama u hramu ministarstva odbrane

Nema kontrole, nema oružja, nema municije, vojnici pišu pisma da im trebaju granate, protutenkovska oružja, granate, panciri.