Danasnji "feminizam"
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#1701 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
Jeni ova dobre glave. 
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#1702 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
a da je muskarac, pa ne zeli imati djecu?HAVANA wrote:Jeni ova dobre glave.
ja njen izbor ne dijelim, ali vjerujem da ima pravo da odluci sta zeli sa svojim tijelom.
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#1703 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
Mozda ja nisam normalan ali musko,zensko ,koje ne zeli imati djecu,nije dobre glave.Razumijem da nema,zivot tako nosio...àli da ne zeli,ne kontam. 
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#1704 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
nisi upoznao nikoga takvog?HAVANA wrote:Mozda ja nisam normalan ali musko,zensko ,koje ne zeli imati djecu,nije dobre glave.Razumijem da nema,zivot tako nosio...àli da ne zeli,ne kontam.
ja jesam. i onih sto imaju hrpu pa su sretni, i onih sto imaju, a vidis da im ide nazor, i onih sto ne mogu imati biolosko pa tuguju, i onih koji ne mogu imati 'svoje' pa usvoje, i onih koji su rodili pa nabili nogom.
ima nas raznih.
meni je ljudski i posteno prepoznati svoje kapacitete pa zivjeti u skladu s njima. mnogo postenije nego pokleknuti pred pritiscima drustva i ocekivanjima drugih ljudi pa patiti i sebe i dijete.
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#1705 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
wewa wrote:nisi upoznao nikoga takvog?HAVANA wrote:Mozda ja nisam normalan ali musko,zensko ,koje ne zeli imati djecu,nije dobre glave.Razumijem da nema,zivot tako nosio...àli da ne zeli,ne kontam.
ja jesam. i onih sto imaju hrpu pa su sretni, i onih sto imaju, a vidis da im ide nazor, i onih sto ne mogu imati biolosko pa tuguju, i onih koji ne mogu imati 'svoje' pa usvoje, i onih koji su rodili pa nabili nogom.
ima nas raznih.
meni je ljudski i posteno prepoznati svoje kapacitete pa zivjeti u skladu s njima. mnogo postenije nego pokleknuti pred pritiscima drustva i ocekivanjima drugih ljudi pa patiti i sebe i dijete.
meni jedino nije jasno, zasto izlagati vlastito tijelo takvim medicniskim procedurama, jer iste imaju negtivan efekat na tijelo
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#1706 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
objasnjeno je u clanku - zena se odlucila na sterilizaciju jer nije sigurna da ce joj, u slucaju nezeljene trudnoce, abortus biti na raspolaganju, obzirom da radi u irskoj, a postoji mogucnost da putuje i u druge zemlje u kojima je abortus zabranjen/nedostupan.Connaisseur Karlin wrote:wewa wrote:nisi upoznao nikoga takvog?HAVANA wrote:Mozda ja nisam normalan ali musko,zensko ,koje ne zeli imati djecu,nije dobre glave.Razumijem da nema,zivot tako nosio...àli da ne zeli,ne kontam.
ja jesam. i onih sto imaju hrpu pa su sretni, i onih sto imaju, a vidis da im ide nazor, i onih sto ne mogu imati biolosko pa tuguju, i onih koji ne mogu imati 'svoje' pa usvoje, i onih koji su rodili pa nabili nogom.
ima nas raznih.
meni je ljudski i posteno prepoznati svoje kapacitete pa zivjeti u skladu s njima. mnogo postenije nego pokleknuti pred pritiscima drustva i ocekivanjima drugih ljudi pa patiti i sebe i dijete.
meni jedino nije jasno, zasto izlagati vlastito tijelo takvim medicniskim procedurama, jer iste imaju negtivan efekat na tijelo
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#1707 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
suplja pricawewa wrote:objasnjeno je u clanku - zena se odlucila na sterilizaciju jer nije sigurna da ce joj, u slucaju nezeljene trudnoce, abortus biti na raspolaganju, obzirom da radi u irskoj, a postoji mogucnost da putuje i u druge zemlje u kojima je abortus zabranjen/nedostupan.Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
meni jedino nije jasno, zasto izlagati vlastito tijelo takvim medicniskim procedurama, jer iste imaju negtivan efekat na tijelo
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#1708 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
Moramo oamialiti muski niqab za zaposljavanje hhhharzuhal wrote:E, to je dio problema koji još nisam riješio u ovom slučaju, ali sam se potrudio makar dopola da nešto smislim, makar u ovom Ljubinkinom slučaju ili da kažem LJunbkinom slaučauj...wewa wrote:zanemarujuci cinjenicu da nikab ne nose muskarci - koji su svakako i dobili prednost pri zaposljavanju.![]()
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#1709 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
ukoliko ima dovoljna sredstva da putuje...Connaisseur Karlin wrote:suplja pricawewa wrote:objasnjeno je u clanku - zena se odlucila na sterilizaciju jer nije sigurna da ce joj, u slucaju nezeljene trudnoce, abortus biti na raspolaganju, obzirom da radi u irskoj, a postoji mogucnost da putuje i u druge zemlje u kojima je abortus zabranjen/nedostupan.Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
meni jedino nije jasno, zasto izlagati vlastito tijelo takvim medicniskim procedurama, jer iste imaju negtivan efekat na tijeloabortus moze uvijek uraditi u Svedskoj , iako radi u Irskoj
i zasto je abortus 'prihvatljivija' opcija od sterilizacije?
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#1710 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
jer postoji mogucnost da se abourtus ne desi, tj. aboruts se ne plaira , a ona je dolsovno odlucla i isplanirala da narusi vlastito zdravlje permanentnom steriliziacijomwewa wrote:ukoliko ima dovoljna sredstva da putuje...Connaisseur Karlin wrote:suplja pricawewa wrote:
objasnjeno je u clanku - zena se odlucila na sterilizaciju jer nije sigurna da ce joj, u slucaju nezeljene trudnoce, abortus biti na raspolaganju, obzirom da radi u irskoj, a postoji mogucnost da putuje i u druge zemlje u kojima je abortus zabranjen/nedostupan.abortus moze uvijek uraditi u Svedskoj , iako radi u Irskoj
i zasto je abortus 'prihvatljivija' opcija od sterilizacije?
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#1711 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
Nikad prije nisam ni cula za pojam zenske sterilizacije 
Sad nadjoh ovaj clanak u kojem se navode razni mitovi sta se sve misli da uzrokuje, sto navodno nije tacno. Upade mi u oci da se preporucuje da ako su oba partnera za sterilizaciju da je vazektomija bolja opcija "it is simpler, safer, easier and less expensive".
Meni lično je jako stalo do mog ukupnog zdravlja a reproduktivno mi je svetinja. Ne volim kad zbog sporta posegnem za hormonalnim tabletama. Smetaju mi sve te promjene u tijelu i ta vještačka uslovljavanja rada hormona. Čitam članak i čitam da se navodno ništa posebno ne odražava na ukupno zdravlje ali teško mi je to vjerovati.
Sad nadjoh ovaj clanak u kojem se navode razni mitovi sta se sve misli da uzrokuje, sto navodno nije tacno. Upade mi u oci da se preporucuje da ako su oba partnera za sterilizaciju da je vazektomija bolja opcija "it is simpler, safer, easier and less expensive".
Meni lično je jako stalo do mog ukupnog zdravlja a reproduktivno mi je svetinja. Ne volim kad zbog sporta posegnem za hormonalnim tabletama. Smetaju mi sve te promjene u tijelu i ta vještačka uslovljavanja rada hormona. Čitam članak i čitam da se navodno ništa posebno ne odražava na ukupno zdravlje ali teško mi je to vjerovati.
http://www.ippf.org/blogs/myths-and-fac ... rilisation
Female sterilization is an effective form of contraception that permanently prevents a woman from becoming pregnant. Sterilization does NOT protect against sexually transmitted infections (STIs), including HIV.
The operation involves cutting or blocking the fallopian tubes, which carry eggs from the ovaries to the womb. This prevents the eggs from reaching the sperm and becoming fertilized. It can be a fairly minor operation, with many women returning home the same day.
In most cases, female sterilization is more than 99% effective, and only one in 200 women will become pregnant after the operation.
Almost any woman can be sterilized. However, sterilization should only be considered by women who do not want any more children, or who do not want children at all. Once a woman is sterilized, it is very difficult to reverse the process, so it is important to consider other contraceptive options.
Couples often decide upon sterilization mutually, when they both feel they do not want any more children. If a couple decides upon sterilization as their preferred contraceptive method, either partner could be sterilized. If both options are acceptable, vasectomy is preferable. It is simpler, safer, easier and less expensive.
More frequently, sterilization is performed when women are over 30 years old and have had children, although some younger women who have never had a baby choose it.
Myth: Cancer
Some clients incorrectly believe that female sterilization will cause women to develop cancer of the reproductive organs (uterus, cervix, or ovaries).
Fact:
Female sterilization does not increase the risk of cancer of the reproductive organs which are defined below. In fact, several studies have reported a reduced risk of ovarian cancer after tubal occlusion. Very little research has been done to investigate the relationship between breast cancer and female sterilization, but so far there is no evidence of such a link.
Uterine Cancer: Cancer that forms in tissues of the uterus (womb). Two types of uterine cancer are endometrial cancer (cancer that begins in cells lining the uterus), and uterine sarcoma (a rare cancer that begins in muscle or other tissues in the uterus).
Cervical Cancer: Cancer that forms in tissues of the cervix (the lower end of the uterus). It is usually a slow-growing cancer that may not have symptoms, but can be found with regular screening.
Ovarian Cancer: Cancer that forms in tissues of the ovary. Most ovarian cancers are either ovarian epithelial carcinomas (cancer that begins in cells that line the ovary) or malignant germ cell tumors (cancer that begins in egg cells).
Myth: General Procedure
Some clients incorrectly believe that female sterilization involves the removal of some or all of a woman’s reproductive organs, including the vagina.
Fact:
During the sterilization procedure, the ovaries, uterus, and cervix are left in place. Only the fallopian tubes (the tubes which carry eggs from the ovaries to the uterus) are blocked or cut. The two most common surgical approaches are laparoscopy and minilaparotomy:
Minilaparotomy involves making a small incision in the abdomen (measuring 2-5 centimeters), and the fallopian tubes are brought to the incision to be tied and cut or else closed with a clip or ring. The doctor inserts a special instrument (uterine elevator) into the vagina, through the cervix, and into the uterus to raise each of the two fallopian tubes so they are closer to the incision.
Laparoscopy involves inserting a long thin tube with a lens in it (a laparoscope) into the abdomen through a small incision (measuring about 1 centimeter). This laparoscope enables the doctor to see and to close each tube with a clip, a ring, or block it by electric current.
Myth: Health Risks and Side Effects
Some clients incorrectly believe that female sterilization leads to health risks or side effects such as hysterectomy, poor health, pain, or hormonal imbalances.
Fact:
There are no documented medical side effects of female sterilization. The few complications that do occur during or following sterilization, such as infection or abscess of the wound, can generally be kept to a minimum if appropriate techniques are used and if the procedure if performed in an appropriate setting. Local anesthesia is best for female sterilization because it has lower risks of complications than use of general anesthesia. The risks are lowest when local anesthesia is used without sedatives. If sedatives are used, providers should closely monitor the woman’s vital signs, such as pulse rate and blood pressure throughout the procedure.
Hysterectomy
Some incorrectly believe that sterilization will cause a woman to need a hysterectomy. Recent research shows that sterilization does not appear to increase the need for a hysterectomy, however. Sterilization has no biologic relationship with hysterectomy. Hysterectomies are often done to treat menstrual disorders and women who are sterilized may be more likely to consider having hysterectomies to treat such disorders because they are not worried about losing their fertility.
Pain
Female sterilization does not cause lasting pain in the back, uterus, or abdomen. There is often some minor pain during the procedure. Women receive local anesthetic to stop pain during the procedure, and, except in special cases, women remain awake. A woman can feel the health care provider moving her uterus and tubes. This can be uncomfortable. If a trained anesthetist or anesthesiologist and suitable equipment are available, general anesthesia may be chosen for women who are very frightened of pain. A woman may feel sore and weak for several days or even a few weeks after surgery, but she will soon regain her strength. She can take ibuprofen (200–400 mg), paracetamol (325–1000 mg), or other pain reliever, but not aspirin. Stronger pain reliever is rarely needed.
Hormone Imbalances
Female hormones are not affected by female sterilization, and there will be neither a loss of femininity nor any change in sexual functioning.
Myth: Mechanism of Action
Some people incorrectly believe that female sterilization prevents pregnancy either by stopping ovulation or by killing a woman’s egg.
Fact:
Female sterilization does not stop ovulation or harm a woman’s egg in any way. An egg will still be released each month, but it will dissolve and be reabsorbed by the body.
Female sterilization prevents pregnancy by cutting or blocking the fallopian tubes (the tubes which carry eggs from the ovaries to the uterus) so that sperm cannot move up to meet the egg. There are several ways of blocking the fallopian tubes: tying them (ligation), removing a small piece of the tube (excision), sealing (cauterization), or applying clips or rings.
Myth: Menstrual Bleeding
Some clients incorrectly believe that female sterilization will cause irregular or heavier menstrual bleeding or make monthly bleeding stop (amenorrhea).
Fact:
Most research finds no major changes in bleeding patterns after female sterilization. If a woman was using a hormonal method or IUD before sterilization, her bleeding pattern will return to the way it was before she used these methods. For example, women switching from combined oral contraceptives (COCs) to female sterilization may notice heavier bleeding as their monthly bleeding returns to usual patterns. Note, however, that a woman’s monthly bleeding usually becomes less regular as she approaches menopause.
Myth: Sexual Pleasure
Some clients incorrectly believe that female sterilization causes women to lose their sex drive or lose their sexual ability.
Fact:
After sterilization a woman will look and feel the same as before. There is no loss of sexual drive or interest after female sterilization. She can have sex the same as before. She may find that sex is more enjoyable because she does not have to worry about getting pregnant.
Myth: Weight Changes
Some clients incorrectly believe that female sterilization will cause women to lose weight or to gain weight or that female sterilization will disfigure a woman’s body.
Fact:
Sterilization does not cause any changes in weight, appetite, or appearance. However, older women are more likely to choose sterilization for contraception than younger women and most women gain weight as they age.
Myth: Who Can Use the Method
Some women avoid female sterilization because they incorrectly believe that only women of a certain age or who have a certain number of children can undergo female sterilization.
Fact:
All women can undergo female sterilization safely with proper counseling and informed consent. There is no justification for denying sterilization to a woman because of her age, the number of her pregnancies or living children, or her marital status. Health care providers must not impose rigid rules about age, number of children, age of last child, or marital status. If a specific woman’s situation suggests to a provider that she could have regrets later, the provider should help the woman think through her decision carefully. Ultimately, however, each woman must be allowed to decide for herself whether or not she will want more children and whether or not to have sterilization.
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#1712 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
pise u clanku da se ona odlucila za implantate koji uzrokuju postepeno zacepljavanje jajovoda - sto znaci da ne bi trebalo biti uticaja na hormonski status.
pise i da su razmatrali vazektomiju kao plan B.
mislim, razumijem emocionalne reakcije na clanak i postupak opcenito, i ja sam imala slicno kod vijesti o angelininoj obostranoj dobrovoljnoj mastektomiji.
pise i da su razmatrali vazektomiju kao plan B.
mislim, razumijem emocionalne reakcije na clanak i postupak opcenito, i ja sam imala slicno kod vijesti o angelininoj obostranoj dobrovoljnoj mastektomiji.
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#1713 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
ona je spomenula ime procedure koja se u SAD korsiti od 2002 godine http://www.essure.com/what-is-essurewewa wrote:pise u clanku da se ona odlucila za implantate koji uzrokuju postepeno zacepljavanje jajovoda - sto znaci da ne bi trebalo biti uticaja na hormonski status.
pise i da su razmatrali vazektomiju kao plan B.
mislim, razumijem emocionalne reakcije na clanak i postupak opcenito, i ja sam imala slicno kod vijesti o angelininoj obostranoj dobrovoljnoj mastektomiji.
Posljedice su na stranici odlicno objasnjenje, i procedura nije bezopasna,kao ni posljedice procedure , zato sam napisala da je , generlano receno, jako cudno kad osoba odluci ugorziti svoje zdravlje
Meni je jasna Angelinina matektomija, kao sto i zene oduce izaditi maternicu , sve , i to je naucno objasnjeno: postoji gen koji uslovaljvaja pojavu raka na dojakama i reporudtkivnim organima. Znam djevojku koja je imala rak dojke, i radili s test sa njom ,njenom sestrom i mamom, rezultat, njena sestra nema doticni genetski kod , a njenan sestra i mama imaju,i obe su prezivjele rak dojke.
moja reakcija nije emocionalna, jer njena prica o zdrastvenom osiguranju kaoSvejdanke u Irskoj je jednostavno besmislena i netocna, to me iritira
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#1714 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
Šta je uopšte normalno? To šta većina radi?HAVANA wrote:Mozda ja nisam normalan ali musko,zensko ,koje ne zeli imati djecu,nije dobre glave.Razumijem da nema,zivot tako nosio...àli da ne zeli,ne kontam.
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#1715 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
To govoriš kao stručnjak za Švedsko pravo?Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
moja reakcija nije emocionalna, jer njena prica o zdrastvenom osiguranju kaoSvejdanke u Irskoj je jednostavno besmislena i netocna, to me iritira
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#1716 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
Otkud znam,nisam ni ja normalan.Hakiz wrote:Šta je uopšte normalno? To šta većina radi?HAVANA wrote:Mozda ja nisam normalan ali musko,zensko ,koje ne zeli imati djecu,nije dobre glave.Razumijem da nema,zivot tako nosio...àli da ne zeli,ne kontam.
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#1717 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
Pa kaze...fala ti majko sto si me rodila,sto si sa ocem ljubav vodila,fala vam preci za vase gene i sve vrline sto krase mene... 

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#1718 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
Zeneeeeee,volim zenèeeeeee 
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#1719 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
To mi je slično kao sa homoseksualizmom. Nije standardno, ali nije ni nenormalno. Standardna mutacija. A bez mutacija u procesu evolucije, kao što ti kažeš, "qrac bi mi sad srali ovde..."HAVANA wrote:Otkud znam,nisam ni ja normalan.Hakiz wrote:Šta je uopšte normalno? To šta većina radi?HAVANA wrote:Mozda ja nisam normalan ali musko,zensko ,koje ne zeli imati djecu,nije dobre glave.Razumijem da nema,zivot tako nosio...àli da ne zeli,ne kontam.Kako jebo ga ti sta je normalno?Otkad je svijeta i vijeka normalno je ljubav,zena,djeca,porodica...Nekom se ne sloze kockice,svakakvih sudbina ima,ali ne moze se reci da nije normalno imati djecu,porodicu...Da nam je mater tako vikala ,qrac bi mi sad srali ovde...
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#1720 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
aha, i zamisli zene donose odluku za abortus,a ne muskarciHakiz wrote:To govoriš kao stručnjak za Švedsko pravo?Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
moja reakcija nije emocionalna, jer njena prica o zdrastvenom osiguranju kaoSvejdanke u Irskoj je jednostavno besmislena i netocna, to me iritira
naravno da ona kao Svejdnaka ima pravo uraditi abortus u Svedskoj, iako radi preivrmeno u Irskoj
zene iz raznih drzava idu u druge drzave sa ciljem da urade legalan abortus
poanta: djevjka iz clanka je naglasila da nema izbora, sto nije tocno
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#1721 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la ... n,amp.htmlHAVANA wrote:Kakva sad kosulja? Svudje one nos guraju.KB9 wrote:slucaj naucnika i "problematicne" kosulje je dovoljan da se do kraja zivota feministkinje ne shvataju ozbiljno
skontaj idiotkinja xD
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#1722 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
ja opet pri ovoj pameti nikad ne bih radjala. da me se pogresno ne shvati, volim jako svoje dijete i roditeljstvo je divna stvar, daje smisao i motiv za dalje, ali pogledaj ti situaciju i kod nas, a i u svijetu. nidje ovo ne vodi, bogami. u svakom slucaju nicem dobrom.ja se vise iscudjavam kad neko uprkos svemu zeli djecu.ali to, mada mnogi tvrde suprotno, nije odluka koja se donosi razumom.
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#1723 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
Provokacije i napadi feministkinja na katolike i katoličke građevine nisu nikakva novost u Argentini međutim, čini se kako su povodom ovogodišnjeg Marša koji se održao na Međunarodni dan žena (8. ožujka) prosvjednice odlučile otići korak dalje.
Naime na prosvjedu za ženska prava koji se održao u Tucumánu, na sjeveru zemlje, grupa žena imitirala je proces pobačaja na ženskoj osobi obučenoj poput Djevice Marije koja je oko svojeg vrata imala krunicu. Da bi provokacija bila veća cijeli prizor odvio se ispred lokalne katoličke katedrale, a uključivao je umjetnu krv i dijelove bebina tijela kako izlaze ispod haljine.
što jes jes sve su maštovitije

Naime na prosvjedu za ženska prava koji se održao u Tucumánu, na sjeveru zemlje, grupa žena imitirala je proces pobačaja na ženskoj osobi obučenoj poput Djevice Marije koja je oko svojeg vrata imala krunicu. Da bi provokacija bila veća cijeli prizor odvio se ispred lokalne katoličke katedrale, a uključivao je umjetnu krv i dijelove bebina tijela kako izlaze ispod haljine.
što jes jes sve su maštovitije
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#1724 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"
najnormlanija reakcija jer je Crkva uvela zabranu abortusa i isto pravilo je uvedeno drzavni zakon , tj. oktud pravo Crki i drzavi da donose odluke o abortusuBlack swan wrote:Provokacije i napadi feministkinja na katolike i katoličke građevine nisu nikakva novost u Argentini međutim, čini se kako su povodom ovogodišnjeg Marša koji se održao na Međunarodni dan žena (8. ožujka) prosvjednice odlučile otići korak dalje.
Naime na prosvjedu za ženska prava koji se održao u Tucumánu, na sjeveru zemlje, grupa žena imitirala je proces pobačaja na ženskoj osobi obučenoj poput Djevice Marije koja je oko svojeg vrata imala krunicu. Da bi provokacija bila veća cijeli prizor odvio se ispred lokalne katoličke katedrale, a uključivao je umjetnu krv i dijelove bebina tijela kako izlaze ispod haljine.
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