Sirija

[insomnia78]

Da nisi pretjerao

Ovaj u papucama sam unistio 9 kom.

Joj vidi borca "papucara"

s' moje sokoćalo

[aldinjo]

Nemojte da se ibretite (čudite).

Assad se bori protiv najvećih zlikovaca na planeti!

Mora da si i ovi jadnici teroristi i zlikovci sa kojima se asadova hrabra vojska hrabro i odlucno sukobljava.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... 0d0#at=136

Šta je ova paščad željela dokazati sa ovim ubijanjem konja?

[asurbanipal]

Revolucija je imala sanse za uspjeh. Uvjeren sam da mu vecina naroda nije bila naklonjena. Steta sto su Nusra i ostali pecinski ljudi ukrali revoluciju. Da su od pocetka imali jasnu viziju, sada bi na svojoj strani imali vise boraca medju kojima bi bili Druzi, Kurdi, Krscani, pa i mnogi Alaviti... Ovako izgledaju kao sektaska vojska. S druge strane SAA u svojim redovima ima sunitsku vecinu. Asad izgleda kao multikulturalac u borbi protiv vjerskog fanatizma.

Sviđaju mi se tvoji postovi, ali po ovom pitanju se ne bih složio. Revolucije u Siriji faktički nije ni bilo. Zar se može zvati "revolucijom" nešto što je uvezeno izvana. Isto važi i za Egipat i Libiju. Glavni cilj ovih "revolucija" su sigurnost i širenje Izraela, te pljačka i pacifikacija okolnih zemalja. U suštini sve ove "revolucije" imaju ekonomski interes, dok u svojoj pozadini imaju vjerski i ideološki karakter.

[Herr Flick]

1.dio

2.dio

Covjek objasnio,tema moze pod lock odmah

[asurbanipal]

Dio intervjua sa Bajrom Ikanovićem. "Plinskim" džihadistom. Džihad za Izrael. Jehova ekber.

Dobro, a tamo? Od čega živite? Imate li neki izvor prihoda?

Naravno, ovamo je super organizacija, bolje uređenje imaju Sirijci u ratu, nego Bosna u miru. Sama jedinica Djebhetul Nusra ima strašnu organizaciju, iako je sada podijeljena u dvije grupe, što je njihova taktika. Narod ih voli jer su pravedni u svakom pogledu. Na samom startu su potukli ratne profitere. Nama ne treba izvor prihoda, imamo sve, narod nam donosi hranu, piće i ostalo. Zamislite samo, godišnji prihod u Siriji je toliki da 15 godina mogu živjeti, a da ništa ne rade. Mnoge jedinice ovdje imaju simboličnu platu od 50 dolara otprilike mjesečno, za neke lične potrebe. Većina odbija taj novac, zbog čistoće namjere. Mi nemamo potrebu za novcem, imamo sve.

[Comrad]

Nemaju potrebu za novcem jer vjerovatno sve pljackaju, od hrane, automobila itd. Tako da ga razumijem da mu ne treba novac.

Ovom covjeku je bilo mjesto u zatvoru, treba sad naci budalu koja ga je pustila prije vremena. Ja koliko znam bila je prica da je htio dici skolu i ambulantu u Hadzicima u zrak, te je imao nacrte, planove, eksploziv - dobije 8 godina, puste ga nakon 4. I on nastavi po starom?

U svakom gradu u BiH, narocito manjim, postoje grupice ovih vehabija, selefija, dzihadista ili kako vec vole da ih se zove. To svi vide, to svi znaju. Prati li policija sta oni rade? Znaju li gdje spavaju, koliko oruzja imaju itd. Znaju moj qrac.

Njih u BiH ima sasvim dovoljno da naprave neko sranje, ne treba tu puno ljudstva. A prica je kod svakoga od njih ista, jer su veoma dobro uvezani, dijele informacije, razmjenjuju one budalastine od knjizurina itd. I sve ove ubice koje dodju iz sirije ce se sjargati upravo u BiH.

[Herr Flick]

Nemaju potrebu za novcem jer vjerovatno sve pljackaju, od hrane, automobila itd. .

Ovde video iz pocetka https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=15 ... =2&theater

[славянин]

Dio intervjua sa Bajrom Ikanovićem. "Plinskim" džihadistom. Džihad za Izrael. Jehova ekber.

Dobro, a tamo? Od čega živite? Imate li neki izvor prihoda?

Naravno, ovamo je super organizacija, bolje uređenje imaju Sirijci u ratu, nego Bosna u miru. Sama jedinica Djebhetul Nusra ima strašnu organizaciju, iako je sada podijeljena u dvije grupe, što je njihova taktika. Narod ih voli jer su pravedni u svakom pogledu. Na samom startu su potukli ratne profitere. Nama ne treba izvor prihoda, imamo sve, narod nam donosi hranu, piće i ostalo. Zamislite samo, godišnji prihod u Siriji je toliki da 15 godina mogu živjeti, a da ništa ne rade. Mnoge jedinice ovdje imaju simboličnu platu od 50 dolara otprilike mjesečno, za neke lične potrebe. Većina odbija taj novac, zbog čistoće namjere. Mi nemamo potrebu za novcem, imamo sve.

SUper su organizovani samo sto su se raspali kao i ostatak pobunjenika

Cudo im Bog ne posalje hrane i pica jer su njegovi borci

[dječak sa šibicama]

Nemaju potrebu za novcem jer vjerovatno sve pljackaju, od hrane, automobila itd. Tako da ga razumijem da mu ne treba novac.

Ovom covjeku je bilo mjesto u zatvoru, treba sad naci budalu koja ga je pustila prije vremena. Ja koliko znam bila je prica da je htio dici skolu i ambulantu u Hadzicima u zrak, te je imao nacrte, planove, eksploziv - dobije 8 godina, puste ga nakon 4. I on nastavi po starom?

U svakom gradu u BiH, narocito manjim, postoje grupice ovih vehabija, selefija, dzihadista ili kako vec vole da ih se zove. To svi vide, to svi znaju. Prati li policija sta oni rade? Znaju li gdje spavaju, koliko oruzja imaju itd. Znaju moj qrac.

Njih u BiH ima sasvim dovoljno da naprave neko sranje, ne treba tu puno ljudstva. A prica je kod svakoga od njih ista, jer su veoma dobro uvezani, dijele informacije, razmjenjuju one budalastine od knjizurina itd. I sve ove ubice koje dodju iz sirije ce se sjargati upravo u BiH.

Sve je to posljedica zabadanja glave u pijesak i simpatiziranja bradonja jer su "braca po vjeri".

Eto ni Mevlida ne mogu osuditi, jer mu se ukida presuda, valjda dok ne dobije oslobadjajucu... i sve to uz komentare "pa sta, nije nikoga ubio".

Valjda treba dopustiti nekom od tih manijaka da dignu u zrak ambulantu i skolu u Hadzicima, da bi dobio zatvorsku kaznu. Mada bi i tada bilo pametnjakovica koji bi pravdali njegov postupak.

[Truba]

gdje je nestao rat u siriji

svojevremeno je tako bilo s irakom

[muhafuca]

Amerikanci se protive naoruzavanju Sirijskih pobunjenika (istrazivanje javnog misljenja)

59 % protiv 27 % za

Sixty-one percent of voters, including a majority of both parties, say it is not in America's interest to become involved, while only 27 percent disagree. Similarly, 59 percent of voters oppose providing arms and military supplies to Syrian rebel groups, while only 27 percent would support such a move.

By a margin of 49 to 38 percent, however, voters support using drones or cruise missiles - which do not put American lives at risk - to attack Syrian government targets.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57593247/

[muhafuca]

U Britaniji parlament izglasao pravo veto-a nad bilo kojom odlukom premijera da naoruza pobunjenike u Siriji

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain's parliament backed a motion on Thursday requiring Prime Minister David Cameron to give it a veto over any future move to arm Syrian rebels, in a symbolic vote the government said it would heed.

Britain says it has not yet taken any decision to arm rebels fighting to topple President Bashar al-Assad, but its role in helping to lift a European Union arms embargo on Syria in May fuelled speculation it was planning to do just that.

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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/parliament-wins-veto-over-decision-arm-syrian-rebels-162918572.html#oIfJH1f

[славянин]

Amerikanci se protive naoruzavanju Sirijskih pobunjenika (istrazivanje javnog misljenja)

59 % protiv 27 % za

Sixty-one percent of voters, including a majority of both parties, say it is not in America's interest to become involved, while only 27 percent disagree. Similarly, 59 percent of voters oppose providing arms and military supplies to Syrian rebel groups, while only 27 percent would support such a move.

By a margin of 49 to 38 percent, however, voters support using drones or cruise missiles - which do not put American lives at risk - to attack Syrian government targets.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57593247/

Pa nisu ludi, da naoruzavaju ekstremiste koji ce sutra to isto oruzije koristiti protiv njih.Meni je zao tu jer su ekstremisti uvukli i "obicne" ljude koji su krenuli u prvom slucaju u proteste (ne odobravam oruzane napade na vojsku koji su se vrlo rano desili nakon protesta) sa zeljom da promjene stvari u zemlji na bolje - ali naravno razne grupe su uspjele da "otmu" tu zelju za promjenom i pretvore u nesto najgore...

[udrch]

vidim da je glavni protivnik FSA i američke podrške istim ovaj lik što im je čistio wc po Afganistanu i Iraku i nada se da će opet biti u prilici to raditi..u pauzi ova zadnja dva mjeseca piše protiv njih i veliča Rusiju i njihovu veliku pobjedu u Gruziji, ali se nada da će mu Ameri ponovo pružiti priliku da im čisti cipele..
jel nije jednostavnije otići u Osetiju i nemati te traume niže vrijednosti?

[slazemse_neslazemse]

vidim da je glavni protivnik FSA i američke podrške istim ovaj lik što im je čistio wc po Afganistanu i Iraku i nada se da će opet biti u prilici to raditi..u pauzi ova zadnja dva mjeseca piše protiv njih i veliča Rusiju i njihovu veliku pobjedu u Gruziji, ali se nada da će mu Ameri ponovo pružiti priliku da im čisti cipele..
jel nije jednostavnije otići u Osetiju i nemati te traume niže vrijednosti?

u centar !

[AleksoMKD]

Izgleda da je rat i ofocijalno trostran, iako je i ranije bilo sukoba unutar FSA Al-Nusra izgleda pocinje eliminaciju sekularnijih komandanata FSA http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/ ... 0620130711

(Reuters) - Militants linked to al Qaeda in Syria killed a senior figure in the Western- and Arab-backed Free Syrian army on Thursday, an FSA source said, signaling a widening rift between Islamists and more moderate elements in the armed Syrian opposition.

Kamal Hamami, a member of the Free Syrian Army's Supreme Military Council, known by his nom de guerre Abu Bassel al-Ladkani, was meeting with members of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant in the port city of Latakia when they killed him, Qassem Saadeddine, a Free Syrian Army spokesman, told Reuters.

"The Islamic State phoned me saying that they killed Abu Bassel and that they will kill all of the Supreme Military Council," Saadeddine said from Syria.

"He met them to discuss battle plans," Saadeddine added.

The Free Syrian Army has been trying to build a network of logistics and reinforce its presence across Syria as the U.S. administration pledged to send weapons to the group after it concluded that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's forces had used chemical weapons against rebel fighters.

U.S. congressional committees are holding up the plan because of fears that such deliveries will not be decisive and the arms might end up in the hands of Islamist militants, security sources have said.

While Free Syrian Army units sometimes fight alongside Islamist militant groups such as the Islamist State, rivalries have increased and al Qaeda-linked groups have been blamed for several assassinations of commanders of moderate rebel units.

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A gradjani Sirije u teritorijama pod kontrolom FSA koji nisu spremi dati zakletvu Al-Nusri su izgleda zamjenili jednog tirana za drugog (ili tacnije grupu).

Za sada Al-Nusra pruza najsigurnije snabdevanje vodom, hranom i lekovima ali sekularisti su nahebali.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju ... ont-jihadi

The al-Qaida-affiliated commander in charge of the oil company in Shadadi, eastern Syria – a lean, broad-shouldered man who is followed everywhere by a machete-wielding bodyguard – was explaining the appeal of jihadi rule to the people of the newly captured town.

"Go and ask the people in the streets whether there a liberated town or city anywhere in Syria that is ruled as efficiently as this one," he boasted. "There is electricity, water and bread and security. Inshallah, this will be the nucleus of a new Syrian Islamic caliphate!"

The al-Nusra Front, the principle jihadi rebel group in Syria, defies the cliche of Islamist fighters around the Middle East plotting to establish Islamic caliphates from impoverished mountain hideaways. In north-eastern Syria, al-Nusra finds itself in command of massive silos of wheat, factories, oil and gas fields, fleets of looted government cars and a huge weapons arsenal.

The commander talked about the services al-Nusra is providing to Shadadi's residents. First, there is food: 225 sacks of wheat, baked into bread and delivered to the people every day through special teams in each neighbourhood. Then there is free electricity and water, which run all day throughout the town. There is also al-Nusra healthcare, provided from a small clinic that treats all comers, regardless of whether they have sworn allegiance to the emirate or not. Finally, there is order and the promise of swift justice, delivered according to sharia law by a handful of newly appointed judges.

"God has chosen us to provide security to the people, and we do it for nothing," he said. "We have vowed to sacrifice ourselves to serve the people. If we leave, the tribes will start killing each other for the oil and the loot. We had to show force in dealing with the tribes. Even now, one to three people are killed every day because of feuding over the oil. We also protect the silos of wheat. All the silos are under our protection.

"All this wealth," he said, "is for the Muslims."
The emir of gas

A few miles from Shadadi, travelling through hills dotted with oil pumps that resemble giant, long-legged birds dipping their beaks into the earth, we came to al-Nusra's most valuable asset in the region, a gas refinery run by a young commander known to his followers simply as the "emir of gas".

The emir sat on a green mattress on the floor of his office, conspicuously eschewing the computer and desk in favour of the simple way of the Islamist warrior. He was almost skeletally thin, his handsome face framed by long black hair that wrapped lazily around his ears, giving him the air of a mischievous playboy.

When the rebels first captured the refinery, it was run by a joint committee that represented all the battalions in the area. But the emir decided to kick them out, for their "petty theft".

"The Free Syrian Army [FSA] have no funding so they steal stupid things," he said contemptuously. "They steal anything."


The secret to al-Nusra's power in the east, he said, was organisation: all their captured loot went to a central committee, which he called the "Muslim treasury". From there, it was directed to the various battle fronts.

"When we bring in cars or weapons, we don't keep them," said the emir: "the money is sent to the treasury, which distributes these resources."

Rival groups wasted the proceeds of their looting locally, he said. "If your money is scattered around, you can't succeed. But if you centralise your resources, you can do a lot."

The emir had been a law student when the revolution started, he said. Back then, he identified himself as a salafist, though he did not follow al-Qaida. For a full year, he fought under the FSA banner. When al-Qaida first emerged in the east, he thought they would harm the revolution. "I used to disagree with [al-Qaida] over their policies. Even now, they make mistakes on the ground and they have had setbacks in Iraq and Somalia because of this. They focus too much on the sword rather than the Qur'an and preaching," he said.

"I thought we shouldn't declare our animosity to America now. I said, we can be jihadis but raise the flag of the FSA."

What changed his mind was the chaos and corruption of the FSA. He had fought four battles with the FSA, he said, and seen how they argued over the spoils in the middle of the fighting.

"Religious leaders explained to me that we should not fight blindly, that the flag of the FSA is the flag of infidel secularism and that America is our enemy, whether we declare it or not. Americans will always fight us and will never be satisfied," he said.

"We can't topple Bashar and hand it to the FSA to establish the same apostate secularist state. We are not fighting against Bashar only; we are fighting the system."

The tactics with which al-Nusra is waging its war are no less brutal than those of its al-Qaida-affiliated counterparts in other areas of the Middle East. A few weeks before our visit, after a feud with a local tribe over oil, al-Nusra fighters had surrounded the village of Albu Saray and taken the whole male population of the village prisoner. A few of them were accused of killing an al-Nusra commander, and were executed, and many of the houses in the village were flattened. "Do you know why the Americans and Israelis are winning and we Arabs always lose?" asked the emir. "Because we Arabs are emotional."

Al-Nusra, by contrast, was an international organisation, and was "not built on emotions". Its members should be ready to kill their brothers or cousins if they were proved to have to committed apostasy.

"Hitting Albu Saray was a pre-emptive strike," he said. "They were weak. They had a bad reputation. Kill them, and you teach more powerful tribes a lesson. They will start fearing."
'This has broken our spine'

If the jihadis are in the ascendant in the east, they are not without challenges. The first of these is a strategy that bore fruit for the Americans in Iraq: the threat of an Arab "awakening", or sahwa, in which the US pays tribes to fight the jihadists on their behalf. In Iraq, this delivered a disastrous defeat for al-Qaida and other jihadis, but it has since achieved mixed results in Yemen, Somalia and Afghanistan.

But while it took the Americans months of intricate negotiations and huge sums of money to convince a few tribal elders in Iraq, in Syria almost every other marginal tribal elder and his many cousins flirt with the the idea of sahwa, and the money that it could bring.

"They used to tell us that the FSA will turn to sahwa and fight us, which I thought was an exaggeration," said the emir of gas before we departed. "Now I know that will happen for sure.

"After Bashar falls, I see the FSA battalions dividing into three parts. Some will go home to their previous lives, some will join us in establishing the rule of sharia, and a third part will become a sahwa and turn and fight us."

More feared even than the threat of an "awakening", is the risk of splits among the jihadi fighters themselves. In another part of the eastern countryside, I met a senior al-Nusra commander whose self-confident, jihadi way of speaking deserted him as he pondered the difficulties facing his group.

"I expected clashes with everyone: with the tribes, with the FSA, with anyone," he said. "But with other jihadis? I never thought that day would come."

In what many considered a coup against al-Nusra, the leader of the Iraqi branch of al-Qaida, Abu Bakra al-Baghdadi, declared that he would merge his own organisation with that of his Syrian brothers, under his leadership. The feud that followed was reminiscent of the infighting between warring branches of the Ba'ath party in Iraq and Syria in the 1960s.

"Yes, in the beginning they [al-Qaida in Iraq] did give us weapons and send us their leadership," said the commander. "May Allah bless them. But now, we have become a state. We control massive areas, and they are but a faction. They don't control land in Iraq: they were defeated. We have been sending them weapons and cars to strengthen their spear against the Iraqi rejectionist government, but now they want us to be part of them. That, I don't understand."

The foreign fighters – Iraqis, Tunisians, Egyptians and others – were angry with al-Nusra for not accepting the orders of the bigger emir of Iraq, he said. Eighty per cent of them had joined Baghdadi.

"This has broken our spine. Many of our fighters became lax. They ask: 'Why are we fighting if there is a dispute among the emirs?'"

What will happen to them when they become mired in the realpolitik of civil war? Will they gradually sink into the quagmire, like every other faction?

"They say that al-Nusra has become soft, [that] they deal with the infidel FSA and co-ordinate with them and fight together," said the commander. "The reality is that many of the people who have accepted al-Nusra in these area and started to accept our ideology did so because they saw people of the area join them. Now, they have retreated because al-Qaida entered very heavily."

He cites an old Arabic proverb, which states that the people of Mecca know its valleys better than the outsiders. "We know better than the outsiders, who are here just to fight and kill. We have to learn from the mistakes of Iraq and the mistakes that toppled al-Qaida there and turned the tribes against them."

Back at the oil company headquarters in Shadadi, the workers were discussing their new leaders in the shade of a corrugated metal sheet.

"We got rid of one despot [Bashar] and replaced him with another," one man told a young technician who had given his oath to al-Nusra, and thereby been allowed to keep his job.

"As in every place, there are good people and bad people," responded the technician.

"Why is it all right for you to take all the wheat silos and leave none for others?" the first man asked, bitterly.

"Because al-Nusra are the best to rule, and we can take care of the wheat," said the technician.

"Wallah [truly]," responded the man, "al-Nusra takes a cut of everything here – even the air that we breathe."

[udrch]

Makedonac, u Siriji nema sekularista, o čemu ti govoriš..
imaju muslimani suniti..ove što ti zoveš sekularistima su alawiti, jer njih nisi mogao vidjeti u džamiji, jer nemaju svoje džamije, a namaz ne klanjaju, ne poste..a oni su svakako sa Assadom..
naravno imaju i kršćani..
Nusra nema presudan uticaj u Siriji, džaba pokušavate stvoriti veće zlo od Assada..

[AleksoMKD]

Makedonac, u Siriji nema sekularista, o čemu ti govoriš..
imaju muslimani suniti..ove što ti zoveš sekularistima su alawiti, jer njih nisi mogao vidjeti u džamiji, jer nemaju svoje džamije, a namaz ne klanjaju, ne poste..a oni su svakako sa Assadom..
naravno imaju i kršćani..
Nusra nema presudan uticaj u Siriji, džaba pokušavate stvoriti veće zlo od Assada..

Pa iskreno mislim da mu je otac bio jos gori. I ako se u Siriji stvori drzava zasnovana na sherijatu Saudiskog stila i to nece biti daleko iza Assada po zlu. Kako god okrenes neces smeti izraziti javno svoje misljenje da te ne bi neko "ispravio" dal streljanjem dal kamenovanjem.

Ali po tebi ispada da je 100% sunita u Siriji za sherijat sto ne vjerujem. Ima i medju niima ljudi koji bi zeljeli modernu drzavu sekularno ustrojenu.

Krscani, Druzi pa i Kurdi su ni tamo ni vamo, ne bih volio biti u njihovoj kozi, ko god pobedi oni ce najebati, cak mozda i vise ako pobedi FSA. Nusra mozda nema presudan uticaj ali svakako ima veliki uticaj. Veci nego bilo koja pojedinacna formacija FSA.

[udrch]

nigdje nisam rekao da su Sirijci za šerijatski ustrojenu državu..samo sam rekao da suniti nisu sekularisti..
u KSA ne vlada šerijat, jer da vlada ona izopačena porodica ne bi vladala istom..
u Siriji neće biti uspostavljen šerijatski zakon..

[AleksoMKD]

nigdje nisam rekao da su Sirijci za šerijatski ustrojenu državu..samo sam rekao da suniti nisu sekularisti..
u KSA ne vlada šerijat, jer da vlada ona izopačena porodica ne bi vladala istom..
u Siriji neće biti uspostavljen šerijatski zakon..

Oprosti, nisam te najbolje razumio.

Sto se tice KSA tu se slazem sa tobom 100%, ali nisu svi suniti protiv sekularizma. OK, osim ako ne shvatas da ljudi koji su sekularisti automatski postaju ne-suniti.

Isto se slazem da u Siriji nece biti uspostavljen sherijat, vec mislim da ce na zalost biti situacija ko u Libanu 80-ih sa 15 zaracenih frakcija i povremenim masakrima onih "drugih" to potpunog iscrpljenja i nekakvog primirja sa opet koalicionom vlascu.

[vivaldi]

brkica se neocekivano dobro drzi, ali mi je najvece iznenadjenje prilog al jazeera o onima iz nusre koji su protjerali fsa iz nekog gradica gdje otvoreno govore kako su prije toga kupili hrpu pvo raketa bas od fsa to je bilo onaj dan kada je reuters javio da amerika prekida podrsku pobunjenicima jer ih je ocigledno strah za svoje guzice. e sad zasto je katar tim prilogom skocio u stomak sam sebi je bas misterija jer se znalo kakvu ce to izazvati reakciju

[Herr Flick]

Turske NVO šalju 20 šlepera pomoći u Siriju..Asocijacija za obrazovanje i pomoć "Iyilikder" u Siriju će poslati 20 šlepera natovarenih hranom, lijekovima i sredstvima za održavanje higijene.

Ovi iz FSA ce poludit kad vide zastavu Sirije

[Herr Flick]

Makedonac, u Siriji nema sekularista, o čemu ti govoriš..
imaju muslimani suniti..ove što ti zoveš sekularistima su alawiti, jer njih nisi mogao vidjeti u džamiji, jer nemaju svoje džamije, a namaz ne klanjaju, ne poste..a oni su svakako sa Assadom..
naravno imaju i kršćani..
Nusra nema presudan uticaj u Siriji, džaba pokušavate stvoriti veće zlo od Assada..

Ma nemoj da nema sekularista u Siriji a da nisu alawiti,ne iznosi lazi.Hoces reci da nema sekularnih sunita u Siriji sto je potpuna neboluza i napisati da Al-Nusra nije vece zlo od Assada je

[Dr_dre]

Ma nemoj da nema sekularista u Siriji a da nisu alawiti,ne iznosi lazi.Hoces reci da nema sekularnih sunita u Siriji sto je potpuna neboluza i napisati da Al-Nusra nije vece zlo od Assada je

Sekularni suniti??
Evo grohotom se smijem



Sekularizacija je odvajanje od religijskog vjerovanja,ne znam samo kako se tu uklapaju suniti?

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Makedonac, u Siriji nema sekularista, o čemu ti govoriš..
imaju muslimani suniti..ove što ti zoveš sekularistima su alawiti, jer njih nisi mogao vidjeti u džamiji, jer nemaju svoje džamije, a namaz ne klanjaju, ne poste..a oni su svakako sa Assadom..
naravno imaju i kršćani..
Nusra nema presudan uticaj u Siriji, džaba pokušavate stvoriti veće zlo od Assada..

Ma nemoj da nema sekularista u Siriji a da nisu alawiti,ne iznosi lazi.Hoces reci da nema sekularnih sunita u Siriji sto je potpuna neboluza i napisati da Al-Nusra nije vece zlo od Assada je

ne da neću reći, već tvrdim da su suniti u Siriji vjernici svi odreda..
samo je vaš problem što kada neko nije sekularista odmah je vehabija i terorista, radikal..
na temi Egipat ste to i pokazali..svi odreda MB nazivate radikalnim islamistima, a prešućujete da je na sastanku na kojem je suspendovan Ustav i smijenjen Mursi, osim generala, Baradeja, šejha Azhara i patrijarha bio i vođa stranke Nur, selefističke grupacije sa oko 27% glasova u parlamentu..

U Siriji ne postoji veće zlo od onoga koje ima korijen dubok nekoliko desetina godina terora..