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#1576

Posted: 03/07/2006 12:58
by KAMI666
Piramidos wrote:
Mahalac wrote:Sikter :roll:
odlicna grupa :-D
Ne glupiraj se covjece i pusti covjeka da kopa ako vec kopa, niko tebe ne moli da uzmes kramp u ruke pa i da ti ides na piramidu kopati.

Ako ti je krivo, onda idi objesi se i mirna Bosna. Ha ja 8)

#1577

Posted: 03/07/2006 13:08
by Piramidos
boric wrote:
Piramidos wrote:
wels wrote:Otkriven dio ivice


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a kada ce nam se ukazati i marica :)

tita ti jel ovo reklama za tariguz (Violeta) :lol: :lol:
sta te briga ti to ionako ne upotrebljavas!!!
da upravu si boric ja upotrebljavam ovo

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#1578

Posted: 03/07/2006 13:17
by ztluhcs
El-Vedex wrote: kurac ces dobiti posao samo na osnovu diplome Univerziteta. Imas li preporuke mladicu , sta si radio dok si studirao. Pricaj mi malo o ambicijama , na koje magazine si predplacen.


Gdje ti ¾ivi¹ èovjeèe? Eto ti firmi u kojima su ti poèetne plate 2000KM pa u njih neæe¹ uèi da ima¹ i pejgamberovu preporuku i gara¾u magazina, i ne znam ni ja ¹ta...

PARE, STRANKA, ©TELA, FAMILIJA...

Èovjek ti na sva pitanja odgovori "Reko mi je N.N. da vam se javim da poprièamo"...

A ¹to se tièe struènog povraæanja na dobar dio na¹ih akademaca... Agree... Neki ljudi misle da sa (sreðenom/plaæenom) crvenom plavom zelenom "tutom" zavr¹ava bilo kakav intelektualni anga¾man do Sudnjeg dana...

#1579

Posted: 03/07/2006 15:12
by Tatanka
nije dzaba receno: svaki narod zasluzuje onakvu drzavu u kojoj trenutno zivi...

sto se tice piramida, nije bitno vjerovati ili nevjerovati, glupo se i prosipati ubjedjujuci nekoga u suprotno. frajer je postavio tezu i donekle je ucvrstio znanstvenim dokazima. dosada nije dosla nijedna kritika, koja se bazira na protuargumentima, nego samo demonstrira - koliko neko moze biti egoista. ne mogu da shvatim da tamo neki "kvazi-naucnici" na osnovu nicega iznose u janvost kritike. sve me ovo podsjeca na kopernika i katolicku crkvu u srednjem vijeku. pa kako ce zemlja bit' okrugla kad smo mi rekli da nije.

treba proci vremena, sakupljati uporno jos vise dokaza i hatma. piramide ce biti ili ne. ali ne na ovakav nacin, nego sa dokazima. dosada vodi semir sa jedno 275:0

#1580

Posted: 03/07/2006 15:34
by p0go
imam marice svudje, ja znam neke ljude prodaju paket za 10 KM al sta ce ti to sad se fura KOKA...

#1581

Posted: 03/07/2006 18:34
by kekec
Tatanka wrote:nije dzaba receno: svaki narod zasluzuje onakvu drzavu u kojoj trenutno zivi...

sto se tice piramida, nije bitno vjerovati ili nevjerovati, glupo se i prosipati ubjedjujuci nekoga u suprotno. frajer je postavio tezu i donekle je ucvrstio znanstvenim dokazima. dosada nije dosla nijedna kritika, koja se bazira na protuargumentima, nego samo demonstrira - koliko neko moze biti egoista. ne mogu da shvatim da tamo neki "kvazi-naucnici" na osnovu nicega iznose u janvost kritike. sve me ovo podsjeca na kopernika i katolicku crkvu u srednjem vijeku. pa kako ce zemlja bit' okrugla kad smo mi rekli da nije.
treba proci vremena, sakupljati uporno jos vise dokaza i hatma. piramide ce biti ili ne. ali ne na ovakav nacin, nego sa dokazima. dosada vodi semir sa jedno 275:0

Tatanka, ocigledno je da se nisi upustao/la u citanje na ovoj temi. :-)

Cuj: " znanstvenim" dokazima!?!? :shock:

Kako rezultat moze biti, gore navedeni, ako se pocetna tvrdnja
( "100 posto su piramide"), ni izbliza nije dokazala. :?

I tvoje pisanje je cisto lupanje. :D Piramidas zaguljeni. :-D

#1582

Posted: 03/07/2006 21:30
by taxi_driver
kekec wrote:
Tatanka wrote:nije dzaba receno: svaki narod zasluzuje onakvu drzavu u kojoj trenutno zivi...

sto se tice piramida, nije bitno vjerovati ili nevjerovati, glupo se i prosipati ubjedjujuci nekoga u suprotno. frajer je postavio tezu i donekle je ucvrstio znanstvenim dokazima. dosada nije dosla nijedna kritika, koja se bazira na protuargumentima, nego samo demonstrira - koliko neko moze biti egoista. ne mogu da shvatim da tamo neki "kvazi-naucnici" na osnovu nicega iznose u janvost kritike. sve me ovo podsjeca na kopernika i katolicku crkvu u srednjem vijeku. pa kako ce zemlja bit' okrugla kad smo mi rekli da nije.
treba proci vremena, sakupljati uporno jos vise dokaza i hatma. piramide ce biti ili ne. ali ne na ovakav nacin, nego sa dokazima. dosada vodi semir sa jedno 275:0

Tatanka, ocigledno je da se nisi upustao/la u citanje na ovoj temi. :-)

Cuj: " znanstvenim" dokazima!?!? :shock:

Kako rezultat moze biti, gore navedeni, ako se pocetna tvrdnja
( "100 posto su piramide"), ni izbliza nije dokazala. :?

I tvoje pisanje je cisto lupanje. :D Piramidas zaguljeni. :-D

jos kekec kaze kvazi-naucnici.za ljude koji su zavrsili skole u oblasti koju obavljaju.a za nju je pravi naucnik,semir, koji je kao turista obisao par piramida i umislio da sve zna o piramidama.boze sacuvaj kakvih ljudi u bosni ima.

#1583

Posted: 03/07/2006 22:06
by Eshek
Evo malo o Semirovim "ekspertima"...

Članak možete naći na linku:

http://www.archaeology.org/online/featu ... pdate.html


More on Bosnian "Pyramids" June 27, 2006
by Mark Rose

In "Bosnian 'Pyramids' Update," which was posted on June 14, 2006, I commented on the news stories concerning geologist Aly Abd Alla Barakat, who was said to be from the Egyptian Mineral Resource Authority. According to the stories, Barakat declared that the hill was indeed a pyramid, though a "primitive" one. Was Barakat there officially? What was his expertise? The news stories said that he was "sent by Cairo" (Reuters, June 5) and that he was an "expert in pyramids" (Deutsche Presse-Agentur, June 2). Barakat, we were told, had sent his report to Zahi Hawass, secretary general of Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities, who had "recommended him to the foundation leading the excavation work" (Agence France-Presse, June 12). Taking it all together, you might believe that Barakat had been dispatched by Dr. Hawass. Could that be true?

Unable to confirm any of this, I asked Dr. Hawass directly. Concerning Barakat, he states: "Mr. Barakat, the Egyptian geologist working with Mr. Osmanagic, knows nothing about Egyptian pyramids. He was not sent by the SCA, and we do not support or concur with his statements." The supposed pyramid, Dr. Hawass says, is "evidently a natural geologic formation" and that "Apart from its general outline, this hill bears absolutely no resemblance to the Egyptian pyramids." He concludes that, "Mr. Osmanic's theories are purely hallucinations on his part, with no scientific backing."

* Click here for Dr. Hawass' letter.

Meanwhile, Canadian archaeologist Chris Mundigler, whose name had been mentioned as a foreign expert scheduled to work on the "pyramid" excavation, has written to ARCHAEOLOGY, saying that he does not endorse and never agreed to work on the project.

The latest news story from Bosnia quotes two volunteers (said to be archaeologists): "We still don't know about the date, we don't have any artefacts, we don't know who and why built up this construction. We don't know what kind of construction it is." Perhaps those digging are now backing away from the 12,500-year-old pyramid claim.

Mark Rose is Online Editorial Director, Archaeological Institute of America.

Bosnian "Pyramids" Update June 14, 2006
by Mark Rose

Growing questions and increasing criticism, geological grandstanding, UNESCO, and more

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Media reports reflect the ebb and flow of the Bosnia pyramid story. May 17: an Egyptian geologist says it's a primitive pyramid, contradicting a Bosnian geology team that at the beginning of the month declared it a natural hill. June 5: politics trumps science and UNESCO says it will investigate. June 9: Anthony Harding drops by and leaves unimpressed, saying there's no evidence it's an archaeological site.

One might have thought that the Ice Age Bosnian pyramid story would collapse like a bad soufflé, but no. Mainstream media has become somewhat more critical of stories emanating from Visoko, but much of the real work in dissecting the claims has appeared on blogs and message boards, such as The Hall of Ma'at (see "Pseudoscience in Cyberspace"). Unfortunately, the mainstream folks haven't picked up on much of this. Meanwhile, the professional community has become more outspoken, notably with a recent field trip to the site by Anthony Harding, who is president of the European Association of Archaeologists, and in response to a proposed UNESCO mission to the site.

First off, by way of summarizing it all, we are still awaiting any credible evidence that these hills are man-made pyramids and that they date to the end of the Ice Age. That's the big claim, and the burden of proof is on those making it. Semir Osmanagic says, "It's such a huge construction undertaking that the only answer is, yes, this is the work of a supercivilization" (see "Pyramid Scheme" in the July/August issue of ARCHAEOLOGY; abstract here). But where are the artifacts? Where are the settlements in which the people lived? Where are the dates?

"Not any evidence at all has been found," says Harding, quoted by the Associated Press. "I've seen the site, in my opinion it is entirely natural." But the same article, widely carried with slight variations (here is one example), still describes Osmanagic as "the amateur Bosnian archaeologist who has been investigating Latin American pyramids for 15 years." The conclusions reached by him, that the Maya originally came from outer space, identify the kind of researcher Mr. Osmangic is, but that's ignored by the reporter.

The AP story also recycles the opinions of one Aly Abd Alla Barakat, said to be a geologist from the Egyptian Mineral Resource Authority and familiar with his country's pyramids. His assessment: "My opinion is that this is a type of pyramid, probably a primitive pyramid." So, the "supercivilization" was apparently only able to come up with a "primitive pyramid." It's worth looking a bit closer at Barakat's conclusions, or at least the statements made by him. I haven't seen anything that resembles an official report, though according to a June 12 Agence France-Presse story "Barakat said that he had sent a report on the site to one of the world's leading Egyptologists, Zahi Hawass, who had recommended him to the foundation leading the excavation work." (I have not been able to confirm the claim he was recommended by Hawass.) In a Reuters report back on May 17, Barakat is said to have identified "sand layers" between the stones unearthed at Visoko as being "the same type of artificial cement used in ancient Egyptian pyramids." The AFP story quotes him as saying, "The white stuff I found between the blocks could be a glue. It is very similar to that we have found in the Giza pyramids." Glue? We seem to be operating in the fog of translation here, but surely a geologist familiar with the pyramids at Giza would know that the ancient Egyptians used gypsum mortar, sometimes gobs of it, to fill in between stone blocks.

So Harding, an archaeologist, says it's natural. Barakat, supposedly a geologist familiar with pyramids, says it's a "primitive pyramid." If only a group of eminent geologists familiar with this area would visit the site. Perhaps they could sort it all out. Oh, wait, actually they did already. There's a FENA (Bosnia and Herzegovina's Federal News Agency) report on an examination of the "pyramid" by professors from the Faculty of Mining and Geology at the University of Tuzla. This was apparently done in early May at the behest of Osmanagic's foundation, Archaeological Park: Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun. Conclusions? According to team leader Sejfudin Vrabac, it's a natural geological formation and there are dozens of similar formations in the Sarajevo-Zenica mining basin alone.

The FENA story about the geologists has been posted on a couple of websites. You can view it at Bosnian Pyramids: Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Atlantis by Alun Salt, a Ph.D. student in the School of Archaeology and Ancient History at Leicester University. Salt combines his own observations with links to source documents about the "pyramids." For example, he cites different accounts that state the height of the main "pyramid" is 70 meters, 100 meters, or even 220 meters. Then he notes that, if its sides are each 365 meters long, as claimed, simple geometry dictates that the height must be 182.5 meters. So how big is the supposed pyramid? Apparently we haven't figured that out yet. That or it changes size from time to time.

Another question that has come up on messages boards is, who are the various experts that are cited as participating in the project? Salt has some of that information, specifically about archaeologists Grace Fegan, from Ireland, and Royce Richards, from Australia. They are both named on a January 18 press release from the project: "Participation has been confirmed by the following archeologists: Grace Fegan, a leading Irish archeologist, Royce Richards from Austria, together with other archaeologists from the University in Innsbruck, Glasgow and Ljubljana." But the facts are different. Neither is involved with the site. Neither ever went to the site. There are, apparently, other examples of this, such as Allyson McDavid (USA) and Chris Mundigler (Canada). And there is at least one example, too, of a person named as a participant who has proved untraceable. (This is why I view with some skepticism references to Zahi Hawass in conjunction with Barakat.)

Archaeologists and geologists are convinced that the hills are just hills, and the information put out by the project is demonstrably inconsistent or self-contradictory or misleading. What's the next logical step? "We shall send a UNESCO expert team to Visoko to determine exactly what it is all about," says UNESCO Secretary General Koichiro Matsuura in a June 5 Reuters story quoting him from an interview in the newspaper Dnevni Avaz. The Deutsche Presse-Agentur about this explains that "The chairman of Bosnia-Herzegovina's rotating presidency, Sulejman Tihic, met with UNESCO director-general Koichiro Matsuura in the Croatian coastal town of Opatija...Tihic informed Matsuura about progress at the site in the town of Visoko where the structure was found and Matsuura promised to send soon a group of UNESCO archaeological experts to investigate the find."

You might think that archaeologists would welcome the arrival of UNESCO on the scene. But that's not the case. Why? Because association of UNESCO's name with the site lends credence to Osmangic's claims. In fact, a letter signed by dozens of archaeologists (including myself) was sent to UNESCO in hopes of forestalling that. Bosnian archaeologists and geologists agree that the hills are not Ice Age pyramids. European and American archaeologists agree. What can UNESCO add? Nothing. What's the cost? Ongoing "excavation" threatens real sites, diverts funds that could be used elsewhere (whether in cultural preservation or social programs), and continues to mislead the public. Bosnia deserves better.

The letter to UNESCO concludes:

The pyramid claims of Mr. Osmanagic and the activities of his team pose a serious threat to the rich historical, cultural and archaeological heritage of the Visoko region. The visit of the UNESCO experts to this area should not be allowed to be represented by Mr. Osmanagic as support for his pseudoarchaeological claims.

This visit, should it occur, ought also to include Bosnian experts, geologists, archaeologists and historians and allow for their scientific opinion to be heard. Bosnia-Herzegovina came out of the 1992-95 war without some of her most important and beautiful cultural and historical heritage gems. It would be irresponsible to let pseudoarchaeology finish off what is left intact.

#1584

Posted: 04/07/2006 00:50
by muhi
Da se ukljucim u raspravu. Da ne bih sada govorio jesu li ili nisu Visocica & co. piramide osvrnut cu se na pismo "najveceg strucnjaka za piramide" dr. Hawassa, i po svemu sudeci ovo nije napisao neki doktor nauka, ili je htio da indirektno uputi na svoju nestrucnost. Molim vas, trgovci su se sastajali na jednom strmom brdu pored nekog sela. Da, da, mozda ce se i utakmica Njemacka-Italija odigrati na Buca Potoku, na parceli moje tetke.
I ako Barakat ne zna "nista" o piramidama i ako nije poslat od strane Vrhovnog vijeca za starine, ko je onda Barakat? Mozda neki volonter iz Egipta sa titulom doktora koji zna o piramidama vise nego li i jedan domaci strucnjak. Mozda.
Zamislimo da se zvanicno se dokaze postojanje piramida:

1. Zilka Vejzagic Kujundzic i njoj slicni ce se obrukati
2. Egipćani će dozivjeti veliki pad turista.

U emisiji Zabranjeni forum na pink televiziji gospoda je izjavila: "... to su ciste ludorije i mastarije....", a kasnije "... pa ja bih licno voljela da to budu piramide".
Prvo, time je rekla bi voljela da se dokazu te ludorije i mastarije, a drugo, zasto zeli sabotirati projekat ako bi voljela da to budu piramide?
Iza ovog svega vise ne stoji nauka i strucnjaci, vec su u pitanju struje interesa koje je sada tesko razumiti.

Sam Osmanagic je rekao: "Neka oni pricaju sta hoce, mi za razliku od njih imamo dokaze."

Sada jedno pitanje za sve "fanove" Zilke i plejade njoj slicnih:
Ako je slucaj visockih piramida imaginaran, ako su ti blokovi prirodno geoloski nastali kameni blokovi, ako to brdo ima sve strane jednake i ako je orijentisano prema stranam svijeta....., da li mozete naci i jedno slicno brdo koje ce imati ove karekteristike, stovise, koliko jos postoj brda gdje mozete naici na slicne kamene povrsine?

Mozda pitanja i cijela moja poruka izgledaju djetinjasto, ali je cinjenica da ni jedan od protivnika ovog projekta ne razmislja drugacije, ne razmislja argumentovano, ne razmislja nikako.

#1585

Posted: 04/07/2006 01:27
by muhi
Da se ukljucim u raspravu. Da ne bih sada govorio jesu li ili nisu Visocica & co. piramide osvrnut cu se na pismo "najveceg strucnjaka za piramide" dr. Hawassa, i po svemu sudeci ovo nije napisao neki doktor nauka, ili je htio da indirektno uputi na svoju nestrucnost, u pismu se može prepoznati veliku neupucenost u cijelu situaciju. Molim vas, trgovci su se u srednjem vijeku sastajali na jednom strmom brdu pored nekog sela. Da, da, mozda ce se i utakmica Francuska-Portugal odigrati na Buca Potoku, na parceli moje tetke.
I ako Barakat ne zna "nista" o piramidama i ako nije poslat od strane Vrhovnog vijeca za starine, ko je onda Barakat? Mozda neki volonter iz Egipta sa titulom doktora koji zna o piramidama vise nego li i jedan domaci strucnjak. Mozda.
Zamislimo da se zvanicno se dokaze postojanje piramida:

1. Zilka Vejzagic Kujundzic i njoj slicni ce se obrukati
2. Egipćani će dozivjeti veliki pad turista.

U emisiji Zabranjeni forum na pink televiziji gospoda je izjavila: "... to su ciste ludorije i mastarije....", a kasnije "... pa ja bih licno voljela da to budu piramide".
Prvo, time je rekla bi voljela da se dokazu te ludorije i mastarije, a drugo, zasto zeli sabotirati projekat ako bi voljela da to budu piramide?
Iza ovog svega vise ne stoji nauka i strucnjaci, vec su u pitanju struje interesa koje je sada tesko razumiti.

Sam Osmanagic je rekao: "Neka oni pricaju sta hoce, mi za razliku od njih imamo dokaze."

Sada jedno pitanje za sve "fanove" Zilke i plejade njoj slicnih:
Ako je slucaj visockih piramida imaginaran, ako ti blokovi nisu prirodno geoloski nastali kameni blokovi, ako to brdo ima sve strane jednake i ako je orijentisano prema stranam svijeta....., da li mozete naci i jedno slicno brdo koje ce imati ove karekteristike, stovise, koliko jos postoj brda gdje mozete naici na slicne kamene povrsine?

Mozda pitanja i cijela moja poruka izgledaju djetinjasto, ali je cinjenica da ni jedan od protivnika ovog projekta ne razmislja drugacije, ne razmislja argumentovano, ne razmislja nikako.

#1586

Posted: 04/07/2006 01:51
by ahmed&nedzad
De još jednom, da utvrdimo. :D :D

#1587

Posted: 04/07/2006 03:58
by forUMASH
wels wrote:Otkriven dio ivice


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.....jel' ovo horizontalna ili vertikalna ivica piramide.... :D

#1588

Posted: 04/07/2006 10:24
by Tatanka
taxi_driver wrote:
jos kekec kaze kvazi-naucnici.za ljude koji su zavrsili skole u oblasti koju obavljaju.a za nju je pravi naucnik,semir, koji je kao turista obisao par piramida i umislio da sve zna o piramidama.boze sacuvaj kakvih ljudi u bosni ima.
nemoras vise dokazivati taxisto, jer si svojim stavom vec mnogo puta dokazao da nista ne razumijes. vjeruj mi da te vrlo dobro shvatam, jer znam da vecinom "carsijski looser-i" vise lupetaju nego sto mogu provariti i njihovi sagovornici i oni sami. eto vidis ovo "looser-i" stoji pod znakom navodnika... i ja se s tobom mogu opkladit' u oba tvoja stada i sva cetiri sijena na njivi, da ti opet to nikako ne kontas. nije care da neces, nego jednostavno nemozes. cinjenica - zalosno, tuzno ali istinito. ti komentiras moj pojam "kvazi-naucnika" kao kvazi-naucnici. bez navoda i proizvoljno, ko bernardinac negdje u alpama sa burencetom rakije oko vrata. tvoje "gledanje prirode" pokazuje da si neznalica. ne zelim ja da tebe tako nazovem, ali se ti sam guras u tu grupu (ne)ljudi svojom povrsnoscu i bahatim (ne)znanjem.

nije ruzno imati drugo misljenje, naprotiv - tako se dolazi zdravije do mnogih otkrica i saznanja. ali je ruzno, kad se na jedan necivilizovan nacin i zargonom ulicara pokusava svim silama nametnuti jedna vrsta dogme. ali i taj tvoj takav korak se lako da razumjeti, kad pogledamo gdje nam je u stvari drzava i da u nasem narodu vecinom preovladava zavist, oholost, nesimetrija cula i zataskana ljubomora prema svemu sto se kao "looser" i lijenstina nemoze sam ostvariti.

naravno da ces mi replicirati ali bih ja s ovim textom s tobom ovu nenadanu polemiku zavrsio.

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Demanti
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 23:43:47 -0400



Postovani Semire!



Prije svega pozdravljam te i pitam, kako si?

Znam da prolazis kroz teska vremena ubjedjivanja sa nekim veoma priznatim naucnicima. Namjerno nisam rekao zvanicnom naukom kao sto to mnogi upotrebljavaju, jer naprosto to nije tacno. Naime jedni predstavnici te zvanicne nauke negiraju postojanje bosanskih piramida, ali jedan dio naucnika te iste zvanicne nauke i tekako bosanske piramide smatara nepobitnom realnoscu, sa kojom ce se svi, kad tad morati suociti. Procitao sam tvoj najnoviji tekst pod naslovom “ Slucaj piramida: Izmedju nauke i zlonamjernih oponenata” i odusevljen sam tvojom energijom sa kojom nastupas, od samog pocetka, pa evo do ovih danasnjih dana. Cetitam ti na tome, ali predlazem da ucinis i sljedece: Provjeri i demantuj, ili trazi od ljudi da demantuju izjave koje su neistinite, bilo da su zaista njihove ili je neko drugi to napisao pod njihovim imenom. Kao prvo, pismo koje je navodno napisao dr Zahi Hawass, zaista djeluje kao da je napisano od nekoga drugog. Da li je vjerodostojnost pisma ikad neko provjerio. Nadalje, ako je pismo istinito zasto nema reakcije od dr.Berakata, egipatske ambasade, koja je posredovala u njegovom dovodjenju i na kraju od same egipatske vlade koja ga je i poslala. Zasto cute na izjavu da njihov covjek nista ne zna o piramidama? Slijedi kopija pisma egipatske ambasade:

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Ko je u stvarnosti Mr. Mark Rose, urednik magazina “Archeaology”. Ko stoji iz njega i njegovih aktivnosti anti propagande bosanskih pirmida. Otkuda bas njemu i pismo Mr. Chrisa Mundiglera iz Kanade, o navodnom ne postojanju nikakve njegove veze sa projektom bosanskih piramida, niti njegovom podrzavanju tog projekta.

Semire, pa ti znas da to nije istina. Isti taj Kanadjanin se e-mailom javio na adresu nase Fondacije i sam se ponudio da ucestvije u arheoloskom istrazivanju. Naravno htio je novac, a ne da bude volonter. Ti osobno si mu se zahvalio i rekao da ces njegov prijedlog iznijeti na Upravni odbor i da ces ga blagovremeno obavijestiti o svemu uz opasku da Fonadacija jos ne raspoalze sa finansijskim sredstvima. Imao si i misljenja o svemu tome i od drugih clanova Fondacije, medju kojima i moje. Valjda se gospodin Chris uvrijedio sto nije angazovan, pa sad negira svoju, bilo kakvu, vezu sa ovim projektom. Ili je i ovo pismo napisao neko drugi, ne ocekujuci da neko ima sacuvanu svu korespodenciju u svojoj e-mail arhivi.



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To: [email protected]

Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 2:11 PM

Subject: Employment enquiry



December 30, 2005

Mr. Osmanagich,

I am writing to enquire as to the possibility of full-time / part-time
salaried, and/or contractual work you may have in your organization for
either archaeological research and/or GIS / mapping - both in-office and in
the field.
Ideally, I would very much like to work for you from my home office in
Canada on such matters as GIS; research and publication graphics, mapping
and illustration; data analysis and interpretation; technical and report
writing; and the like - all of which I have done for other companies via
long-distance. Other than that, I would consider working wherever you may
have an opening that you feel might suit my qualifications and experience.


As way of a brief introduction, I have accumulated more than 20 years of
experience in archaeological research in southern Europe (Greece and Italy),
the Middle East (Jordan and Syria), North Africa (Morocco) and North America
(Canada), and have had the privilege of teaching at university for 11 years
now in the subjects of archaeology; anthropology; ancient history,
technology and religions.

The specialties I offer include illustration and drafting (plans, sections,
artifact reconstruction); photographic, photogrammetric and media services;
survey and planning; archaeological field services; administration,
logistics and project management; CAD, GIS, and terrain modelling; GPS
planning and surveying; writing and publication services. I am especially
interested in doing mapping, illustration, CAD, GIS and analysis work for
you on your projects from my home-base on the west coast of Canada.

I would like the opportunity of sending you my Curriculum Vita for your
further perusal and welcome any questions or comments you may have.

Thank you in advance for your consideration,

Chris Mundigler


Jos puno neistina bi se moglo navesti koje su izrekli neki domaci naucnici, ali naravno i demantovanje istih, medjutim, posto ce ovo, inace, biti preopsirno pismo, to cu zavrsiti sa ovim rijecima: Istinitost jedne hipoteze se dokazuje radom, a ne praznim rijecima koje za cilj imaju nesto drugo.


KRAJ CITATA

#1589

Posted: 04/07/2006 10:39
by Mahalac
Hvala "tatanka" , jako je bitno da se ovakve stvari objavljuju na internetu i ne zali truda jer ce u suprotnom likovi kao Piramidos likovati a javnost biti uskracena za ISTINITU informaciju.
Svu srecu u daljnjem radu vam zelim.

Piramidos, hajd fino da se dogovorimo ako ti se da stand/frizider (sa suncobranom)da prodajes sladoled izaberi lokaciju/piramidu :D ho's onda zacepit zivota ti!To bi ti nekako i stajalo

#1590

Posted: 04/07/2006 11:15
by Goran_35
Tatanka wrote:... u nasem narodu vecinom preovladava zavist, oholost, nesimetrija cula i zataskana ljubomora prema svemu sto se kao "looser" i lijenstina nemoze sam ostvariti.
da nadopunim sa jos par rijeci iz jednog Balasevicevog stiha:

Banalne strasti... Ljubav, ljubomora, ceznja i bol i tom' slicno
Uzas... Pateticno...


:oops:

#1591

Posted: 04/07/2006 11:24
by seljak_cojek
Ko je u stvari dr.Zahi Hawass
http://www.zahihawass.com/egypt_news.htm
"Do I need to be more famous? I mean there is no archaeologist who really did what I did in my life. And there is no archaeologist who is known in the streets of Europe and America like me," declared Zahi Hawass, Secretary General of the Supreme Council of Antiquities (SCA), at a press conference organized by the Foreign Press Association.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/piram ... ide_00.htm
http://www.robertschoch.net/Great%20Sph ... oversy.htm

#1592

Posted: 04/07/2006 12:41
by Alfa_Ze
Tatanka wrote:
Image


Original Message

From: InCA Research Services

To: [email protected]

Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 2:11 PM

Subject: Employment enquiry



December 30, 2005

Mr. Osmanagich,

I am writing to enquire as to the possibility of full-time / part-time
salaried, and/or contractual work you may have in your organization for
either archaeological research and/or GIS / mapping - both in-office and in
the field.
Ideally, I would very much like to work for you from my home office in
Canada on such matters as GIS; research and publication graphics, mapping
and illustration; data analysis and interpretation; technical and report
writing; and the like - all of which I have done for other companies via
long-distance. Other than that, I would consider working wherever you may
have an opening that you feel might suit my qualifications and experience.


As way of a brief introduction, I have accumulated more than 20 years of
experience in archaeological research in southern Europe (Greece and Italy),
the Middle East (Jordan and Syria), North Africa (Morocco) and North America
(Canada), and have had the privilege of teaching at university for 11 years
now in the subjects of archaeology; anthropology; ancient history,
technology and religions.

The specialties I offer include illustration and drafting (plans, sections,
artifact reconstruction); photographic, photogrammetric and media services;
survey and planning; archaeological field services; administration,
logistics and project management; CAD, GIS, and terrain modelling; GPS
planning and surveying; writing and publication services. I am especially
interested in doing mapping, illustration, CAD, GIS and analysis work for
you on your projects from my home-base on the west coast of Canada.

I would like the opportunity of sending you my Curriculum Vita for your
further perusal and welcome any questions or comments you may have.

Thank you in advance for your consideration,

Chris Mundigler
Ovo moze biti samo jedan mali dijelic DEMANTIJA te ANTIPROPAGANDNE HISTERIJE, onih koji su protiv nastavka radova na PIRAMIDAMA.

NEK CRKNU DUSMANI !!!!!! :lol: :lol:

#1593

Posted: 04/07/2006 13:13
by Piramidos

#1594

Posted: 04/07/2006 13:21
by Mahalac
Piramidos,

jedan kornet molicu lijepo i uzmi i ti jednu snjeguljicu, ohladi malo :D

#1595

Posted: 04/07/2006 13:36
by A_I_
Piše: Semir Osmanagić

Treći dio istraživanja je svakako bio šokantan za one koji su mislili da dobro poznaju historiju ovih krajeva. Ispod jednog metra zemljanih nanosa brda Plješevice, poznatije danas kao Bosanska piramida Mjeseca, otkrivene su lijepo oblikovane ploče i blokovi pješčara koji grade temelje, terase, vertikalne zidove i pravougaone strukture piramide. Ne postoje nikakvi historijski zapisi da se ovdje nekad nešto gradilo. Postojala je samo teza iz 2005. godine da je ovdje piramida.

__________________________

otkad to Semire (ne)nacitani???
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kad se napokon dovrsi otkopavanje ivica brda visocica, znacemo radi li se o piramidi ili brdu ljudskom oku prepoznatljivog oblika.

#1596

Posted: 04/07/2006 13:40
by Tatanka
Piramidos wrote:Sta bi bilo kad bi bilo
u redu je; imas svoje misljenje, znas ga opisati da se nedozvole nesporazumi itd. itd.

ali primijetis li koliko si ti jadna osoba..? zasto..? na inim forumima mozes raspravljati ili bljuvati sta hoces potpuno anonimno. ali kad vodis jednu stranicu ili jedan blog, to znaci da zelis plasirati svoje misljenje u javnost. s tim u kontekstu si obavezna dati svoje pravo ime i prezime za sve one koje vec par puta "bacas" na svoj link, neobaziruci se da script nije u redu i "picka te naravno boli" sto se ponekad ceka ucitavanje i nekoliko minuta.

ok bloggerice, da imas imalo zrelosti i "jaja" (a i da ih imas ne bi ih imala) onda bi se ponasala po statutima www-a, ili se stidis i sama svojih bljuvotina..?

sve dok ne izadjes iz anonimnosti, ni tebe ni tvoj blog niko nece uzimati za ozbiljno.

al' samo naprijed, glavom kroz zid. na greskama se uci...

#1597

Posted: 04/07/2006 14:08
by Goran_35
Tatanka wrote:al' samo naprijed, glavom kroz zid. na greskama se uci...
ko ima tvrdu glavu :oops: inace moze biti kobno :D

#1598

Posted: 04/07/2006 14:16
by idic
Tatanka wrote:
Piramidos wrote:Sta bi bilo kad bi bilo
u redu je; imas svoje misljenje, znas ga opisati da se nedozvole nesporazumi itd. itd.

ali primijetis li koliko si ti jadna osoba..? zasto..? na inim forumima mozes raspravljati ili bljuvati sta hoces potpuno anonimno. ali kad vodis jednu stranicu ili jedan blog, to znaci da zelis plasirati svoje misljenje u javnost. s tim u kontekstu si obavezna dati svoje pravo ime i prezime za sve one koje vec par puta "bacas" na svoj link, neobaziruci se da script nije u redu i "picka te naravno boli" sto se ponekad ceka ucitavanje i nekoliko minuta.


ok bloggerice, da imas imalo zrelosti i "jaja" (a i da ih imas ne bi ih imala) onda bi se ponasala po statutima www-a, ili se stidis i sama svojih bljuvotina..?

sve dok ne izadjes iz anonimnosti, ni tebe ni tvoj blog niko nece uzimati za ozbiljno.

al' samo naprijed, glavom kroz zid. na greskama se uci...
Malo elementarne kulture nije na odmet, uz razumjevanje svih kontra stavova i netrpeljivost, ovo je pretjerivanje.

Čak i oni koji su van naučnih krugova moraju priznati da je način otkopavanja "Bosanskih piramida" zaista neobičan. Od jednog naučnog projekta napraviti radnu akciju, zaista je neprimjereno. :shock:

#1599

Posted: 04/07/2006 14:32
by Piramidos
idic wrote:
Tatanka wrote:
Malo elementarne kulture nije na odmet, uz razumjevanje svih kontra stavova i netrpeljivost, ovo je pretjerivanje.
ma ovo je jos mila majka, ustase, cetnici, neprijatelji drzave, izdajnici bosne itd itd to su sve epiteti koje dobijaju ljudi koji pokusavaju ljudima da malo pomognu da ima nesto drugo osim avaza i alternativne historije.

p.s. @tatanka, mario pikula ako te bas interesuje.

#1600

Posted: 04/07/2006 14:36
by Piramidos