#156101 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 16/04/2023 00:27
I ovaj zločinac sajops-ira nešto često u zadnje vrijeme:
https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/prig ... /230415100
https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/prig ... /230415100
Zoka je cetalj sa sarajevsko romanijske regijeBernardinac wrote: ↑16/04/2023 00:40
Jbte, jedna od glavnih ruskih ptopagandista sa više profila na raznim platformama je amerikanka iz New Jersey-a.
U postovima ispod neko čak tvrdi da je bila u US Navy.
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Baš me zanima odakle je ZOKA
a svako zlo za neko dobro, kako ide ona poucna prica o mudrom kineskom seljaku ... nije ovo daleko od toga.madner wrote: ↑15/04/2023 23:11Nije meni sto nas lazu, nego sto trebamo to vjerovat.SanskiBiser wrote: ↑15/04/2023 21:50
Ne povlači se nikad, osim kad moraš, npr. kad je njih više a mi smo sami.![]()
Znam ja da bi ti dao. Nazalost imali smo i mi jednog sto bi davao, a pitala se njegova...
Ja bih se kladio na Prigožina. Više odanih ljudi ima.
Ja mislim da ce biti 3, mozda i 4 koplja ofanzive.studiorum_tuzlaensis wrote: ↑16/04/2023 02:34 @Bloo Jel moguće da se napravi anketa sa mogućnošću max. 2 izbora na ovoj temi sa sljedećim pitanjem i odgovorima
Glavne udare ukrajinske ofanzive očekujem na pravcima:
1. Svatove-Starobilsk-Luhansk
2. Kremina- Rubizhne - Severodonetsk - Luhansk
3. Bakhmut- Alchevs'k - Luhansk
4. Avdiivka/Marinka - Donetsk
5. Vuhledar - Volnovaha - Mariupol
6. Tokmak - Melitopol/Berdiansk
7. Herson - Sevastopol
Moraju ovdje ici dva tri proboja ili sinhronizovano ili svaki za sebe uz par laznjaka.Ova ofanziva bi trebala biti prijelomna, ili ce se voditi pozicioni rat ili ce doci do nekih oslobadjanja teritorija pa dejton ili rusi go home.Šef zloglasne plaćeničke skupine Wagner Jevgenij Prigožin rekao je kako vjeruje da će ukrajinski protunapad slomiti rusku obranu, a za to je optužio rusku "dekadentnu elitu".
Kako javlja Telegraph, ovo je prva tako iskrena i izravna procjena nekog iz vrha ruske agresije na Ukrajinu otkako je invazija počela. Prigožin smatra kako se ruska vojska neće moći obraniti od ukrajinskih udara koji se očekuju idućih tjedana.
- Ukrajinska vojska pokrenut će protuofenzivu i na nekim će mjestima biti u stanju probiti rusku obranu - kazao je.
Ukrajinski vojni zapovjednici mjesecima planiraju ove protunapade, iako je i dalje potpuna nepoznanica kada će i gdje udariti.
Špekulira se da bi glavni cilj mogao biti u okupiranom Melitopolju, koji se nalazi osamdesetak kilometara južno od prve linije borbe nedaleko rijeke Dnjepar. Riječ je o važnom koridoru koji povezuje anektirani Krim s okupiranim dijelovima Donbasa.
Ruske snage iskopale su kilometarske rovove nedaleko od Melitopolja, no Prigožin kaže kako ima slabo povjerenje u sposobnost tih obrambenih sustava.
- Postoji realan rizik po Rusiju da će, kada protuofenziva krene, stvari postati mnogo gore - rekao je Prigožin koji za sve krivi rusko Ministarstvo obrane te "lijenu elitu" koja je nesposobna pokoriti Ukrajinu.
Also, for the record, if sometimes my answers seem vague, it’s intentional, I’m concealing information (usually something I saw) that might be tactically useful to the Russians. I’m doing that first because I personally think the Russians are the bad guys in this war, and second, because I (like all reporters that go to the front) signed a contract with the Defense Ministry promising not to divulge military information of a tactical nature.
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As to high Russian casualties, everyone said they are advancing and keep getting hit with artillery and direct fire. A couple of soldiers told me they had seen Russian soldiers advance past Russians who had been hit without stopping to give first aid.
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A couple told me the Russian regulars were more competent than the Wagner guys, but, they said that as long as there is enough artillery and mortar ammo it wouldn’t matter who’s attacking.
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In general, the plan seems to be to try and catch the infiltrators with drones and then hit them with mortars or artillery, and if that doesn’t work then the UAF infantry defends its holes until the Russians get too close. So the Russian tactic “works”, but in the sense that Russian gains literally can be from fighting position to fighting position — at times a matter of dozen meters or so. The attacks are not constant and according to the soldiers I talked to most of the time they just fail, everyone is killed or run off. One officer pointed out that the Russian army is advancing in Bakhmut about 1/10th of a kilometer a week, probably.
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Hi Stefan, has there been any response to your (and Tom Cooper’s) writings regarding shortages of ammo, bobwar, etc? Is this having an impact? I’ve been reading Ukraine was warned about the high ammo usage by some western countries — but that seems a bit unfair in the sense that it’s not like *not* shooting the russian invaders is a realistic option. So is anyone listening to this particular issue?
I saw no barbed wire to speak of, but of course I wasn’t on forward fighting positions. I can say without a doubt that where I was Ukrainian fire outweighed Russian fire (outgoing vs. Incoming) by ten to one, and no I am not exaggerating. So it seems possible someone figured out that a shell/mortar round famine in the UAF around Bakhmut needed to be eliminated. I can’t speak for all times in all places, but when I was there, my observation, the Ukrainians were clearly dominating the indirect fire fight.Not just mortars either, big stuff as well.
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On casualties, no idea of the specific ratios, but the soldiers and officers I talked to pretty much without exception told me the Russians were dying in large numbers and that the UAF units were taking casualties but no one was going to quit fighting. Remember, this is soldiers talking to a foreign journalist.[/b]
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How much of the reported Wagner casualties are the untrained prisoners vs. the well regarded Wagner troops?! Would be very sad if Ukraine is losing experienced troops and not degrading the experienced Wagner troops in greater numbers.
Ukraine is without question losing experienced troops. I get the impression, not from this field trip but from watching/communicating with a couple of the more standout units, that the old rule that once a unit is combat experienced it suffers fewer casualties over time, definitely is true in the UAF. I have seen reports claiming 10–20 percent of Wagner is competent soldiers, but I have no way of knowing if that is true.
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Q: To what degree is the information you’re able to share either redacted or influenced by opsec?
A: Great question, the answer is to some degree. The more the answer might give a Russian military planner information he might reasonably not have from other sources, the more I’m redacting myself. As noted above if you’re still curious in a month remind me, this kind of information definitely has an expiration date.
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Morale is overall good, I would say. As I gather, for most holding out is a given, the thing is, for a few who happen to be in the not-so-many holes or buildings the Russians have picked for the days attacks, you may run out of ammo, get Russian infantry inside your position, find out company or battalion can’t give you fire support like you need it, or die. But most of the guys in a given day just hold their positions, or do their specialty job whatever it is. Morale goes up when people hear Ukrainian guns outshooting the Russian ones.
Pretty much whenever possible both sides use indirect fire. Firefights (I am told) are rare, short-range firefights of anything longer than a second or two are extraordinary. Weapons heavier that mortars absolutely are being used, I confirm howitzers firing both ways where I was.
My view is the Russians will have a whole lot of very bloody fighting ahead of them before they even manage to threaten Bakhmut’s communications seriously, and if the weight of artillery I heard and observed over the weekend was any indicator of the general situation, the Ukrainians have artillery dominance around Bakhmut. Given sufficient shells and mortar rounds, there will be no danger, is how I see it.
Q: I have always felt the key to winning this war is artillery. Russias army is basically an army of artillery and without that its nothing. Lately we have suddenly seen an uptick in Ukrainian artillery kills, which I think can be significant. Is this because Russia has pushed its artillery forward to make it more effective ( and more vulnerable) or has some dynamic changed that allows Ukraine to make significant counter battery strikes ?
A: I think two things have happened. First, somehow, the Russians are in a shell shortage and the Ukrainians have if not unlimited ammo then enough to go out and try and kill things on a regular basis. This plus Ukrainian drone advantage — the Russians admit this openly, they complain about it — means that the Ukrainian artillery over time has probably had more ability to hit priority targets the drones find, which without question include Russian artillery. I saw UAF artillery which by type and location almost certainly was doing counter-battery work. Whether or not the trend is significant, don’t know, but I do know when I was in the area the Ukrainian bangs seriously outnumbered the Russian bangs.
Bakhmut, vec mjesec dana Ukrajinci imaju potpunu premoc u artiljeriji u Bakhmutu i pokrivaju citavo ratiste bez problema, nema nedostatka municije vise ni za pjesadiju ni za artiljeriju. Rusi nemaju na tom ratistu vise artiljeriju kao tokom borbi oko SD, uspjeli su samo kod Avdivke da imaju jaca i koncentrisanija dejstva artiljerije zato su u Bakhmutu gubici Wagnera strasni. Poboljsanjem vremenskih uslova ostaje da se vidi da li ce Orlani i novi dronovi koje Rusi sve vise koriste zadnjih par sedmica omoguciti jaca i preciznija dejstva ruske artiljerije, veliki problem ostaje od dolaska HIMARsa logistika za Ruse i da li i koliko sigurno mogu raditi dostavu municije svojim artiljercima tamo gdje to mogu izvesti tamo mogu i koncentrisati vatru i napraviti nesto. Novije na temi treba podsjecati da ruska logistika ovisi o zeljeznici. Ova premoc u artiljeriji koju su Ukrajinci ostvarili u Bakhmutu je moguce imala uticaj na usporeno povlacenje iz grada, koje je vrlo ozbiljno planirano mjesecima i sad se polako sprovodi u djelo. Povlacenje je ocekivano jos prije vise od mjesec dana ali o tacnim razlozima zasto se od toga odustalo po prvobitnom planu i zasto se ovako sporo izvodi znace se tek za pola godine i vise. Sve sto se prica/pise su samo spekulacije pojedinaca...