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Point. wrote: ↑06/07/2026 00:55

Osmi Socrates wrote: ↑06/07/2026 00:32

Point. wrote: ↑06/07/2026 00:28

Bolan, ne možeš ovdje prosipati pamet a fudbal pratiš kroz google search.

Čega se lik sjetio, leži potrbuške na kauču i gugla neke referate iz Urugvaja 1938 i Pelea i misli poentirati. I još forumašima piše nemate vi pojma i naučite pravila a prvu fudbalsku utakmicu pogledao live kad je prije par godina Insigne došao u Toronto.

Jarane ba.

Jarane, ba, nije Google, nego knjiga o istoriji svjetskih prvenstava i masa video uradaka koja je urađena na temu svjetskih prvenstava.

Jarane.

Nije 1938, nego 1930. Jarane.

Naravno da nema pojma onaj koji se i ne trudi da pročita pravila ili razumije bilo koju tehnologiju u fudbalu. Htjeli ste tehnologiju. Sad se trudite da naučite čemu služi i kako se koristi. A kad je nije bilo, joj što je nema.

Onaj koji vjeruje u svaku teoriju zavjere ne treba ni gledati fudbal. Što se mučite? Sve je već odlučeno.

Želiš nam reći da si pročitao knjigu o istoriji svjetskih prvenstava i pogledao masu video uradaka da bi poentirao na forumu

Pa prika nemoj više. Eno Vejn Gretski juče bi na utakmici Kanade. Vjerujem da jedino njega i prepoznaješ na ovom SP. Za sve ostalu su ti potrebne knjige i masa video uradaka.

MMM1977 wrote: ↑06/07/2026 00:55

SmokingMan wrote: ↑06/07/2026 00:47 Dobili smo eto i naredno prvenstvo na tri kontinenta, apsurndo je putavati sa jednog kraja svijeta na drugi i potrošiti i do par hiljada dolara za jednu utakmicu. Fudbal više nije igra u kojoj se uživa već eksluzivitet koji će dobro oštetii vaš saldo.

50-60% kvaliteta fudbala je u Evropi, ako može na Euroviziji učestvovati Australija onda se može organizirati i prošireno EP sa dodatkom po par reprezentacija sa ostalih kontinenata. Da ne govorim o razlici u organizaciji, suđenju i svemu ostalom. Pa neka FIFA organizuje prvenstvo Amerika, mater im jebem.

Uh jest mi drago za Norvešku, od danas navijam za evropske reprezentacije, ko god da su. Svakako su ispali BiH i Hrvatska, više nema emocije, samo racio

dječak sa šibicama wrote: ↑06/07/2026 01:02 Procjene govore da će SP 2026 biti najprofitabilnije prvenstvo u istoriji, s očekivanim prihodima za FIFA od približno 13 milijardi USD, što je gotovo dvostruko više nego na prvenstvu u Kataru 2022 ili više nego na 3 prethodna prvenstva zajedno.

Tačka.

Osmi Socrates wrote: ↑06/07/2026 00:57

amidzazeher wrote: ↑06/07/2026 00:49

Osmi Socrates wrote: ↑06/07/2026 00:42 Ako im je Balogun prijetnja tolika da ih ne pobjede, onda su jebeni mlitavci. Čuj Balogun. Jeb'o ih on. Lika nigdje nema.

Nema to veze ko je, ljudi su pripremali utakmicu kao da ga nece biti i onda dan prije promjeni se taktika

Ma daj, pusti te beznačajnosti. Nikad u fudbalu neće biti veća kontroverza oko beznačajnijeg igrača. Nikad.

Belgija bolje da se posveti očiglednoj disfunkcionalnosti svog tima. Tome što im neki igrači igraju bez volje. Što se zamalo ne pobiše između sebe. Što Senegal prođoše jer ih je fudbalski Bog pogledao.

Valjda će im inat proraditi.

darius_maximus wrote: ↑06/07/2026 01:02

MMM1977 wrote: ↑06/07/2026 00:55

SmokingMan wrote: ↑06/07/2026 00:47 Dobili smo eto i naredno prvenstvo na tri kontinenta, apsurndo je putavati sa jednog kraja svijeta na drugi i potrošiti i do par hiljada dolara za jednu utakmicu. Fudbal više nije igra u kojoj se uživa već eksluzivitet koji će dobro oštetii vaš saldo.

50-60% kvaliteta fudbala je u Evropi, ako može na Euroviziji učestvovati Australija onda se može organizirati i prošireno EP sa dodatkom po par reprezentacija sa ostalih kontinenata. Da ne govorim o razlici u organizaciji, suđenju i svemu ostalom. Pa neka FIFA organizuje prvenstvo Amerika, mater im jebem.

Uh jest mi drago za Norvešku, od danas navijam za evropske reprezentacije, ko god da su. Svakako su ispali BiH i Hrvatska, više nema emocije, samo racio

Na stranu priča o američkoj sramoti, ali ovi procenti su malo off, čini mi se.
Da ovo nije s Mbappeovog seminara o kvalitetu evropskog fudbala.

Bribery, secret calls and a vanishing witness: Inside the World Cup red card FIFA actually reversed

In the history of the World Cup, there have been a total of 189 red cards shown. The first was to Placido Galindo of Peru in 1930. The most recent was to the USA's Folarin Balogun at the 2026 tournament. The 18th belonged to Brazil's Garrincha in 1962. As it happens, Balogun and Garrincha are two of just four players to score a goal in a knockout game before being sent off. However, Garrincha holds another distinction: He is also the most high-profile player to receive dispensation from FIFA after receiving a red card.

How Garrincha came to play in the final of the 1962 World Cup is the stuff of myth. It may or may not involve one presidential petition, another presidential phone call, a bribe and a witness who fled the country. We only know two things for certain: Garrincha was shown a red in Brazil's semifinal win over Chile and he went on to play in Brazil's 3-1 final win over Czechoslovakia.

All the things that allegedly led to Garrincha's red card being overturned
Garrincha's red card was for kicking a Chilean player. The video evidence shows it happened, though the severity of the kick is widely considered minor. The player even admitted it happened, calling it an "involuntary reaction" triggered by being kicked himself so often during the game. He apologized to the people of Chile for the incident.

It would all come down to FIFA's disciplinary committee. At the time, there was no automatic suspension for a red card. The board would convene to assess whether a red card should result in a suspension after hearing evidence from the match officials.

The precedent of several other red-carded players being suspended for the following game at the tournament suggested he would be in danger of missing the final. In fact, the other player shown a red card in Brazil's win over Chile was suspended for the third-place game.

In the end, they let Garrincha off lightly with a warning. How they came to that ruling is where things get dramatic.

Presidential intervention
Not one, but two presidents may have intervened on Garrincha's behalf to varying degrees of sketchiness.

FIFA.com credits the backing of Chilean president Jorge Alessandri, who led a petition to allow Garrincha to play. That account suggests "Chilean supporters had become besotted with the exhilarating winger" and couldn't bear the thought of him missing the most important match of the tournament.

The Guardian tells of Peruvian president Manuel Prado Ugarteche calling up the Peruvian referee Arturo Yamazaki Maldonado and "requesting that he tone down his testimony" to make Garrincha's foul "sound positively trifling." Mind you, this was in the middle of political unrest in Peru, which would ultimately result in Ugarteche being deposed a month later.

A bribe and a disappeared witness
Brazilian journalist Argeu Affonso, as quoted by SporTV, best described this section of the Garrincha red card saga: "It seemed like an Agatha Christie story.

The referee himself didn't see the infringement. He made the call after being alerted by Uruguayan linesman Esteban Marino. So it was Marino's testimony that would matter the most in front of the disciplinary committee (regardless of whether you believe the tale of the Paraguayan referee being told by his president to downplay the foul)...except Marino didn't show up.

Without Marino's recounting of the foul, the committee didn't have evidence to move forward with a suspension.

"The reality is that Esteban Marino disappeared," the journalist Affonso said. "He was the Agatha Christie of football. He vanished suddenly and nobody heard from him."

Where he'd gone is out of the country. An alternate referee at the tournament claimed in 2012 that it was João Etzel, Brazil's head referee at the time, who convinced Marino to skip the hearing and leave the country with a five-figure bribe.

"João Etzel took $10,000, which was a lot of money at the time. He gave it to Esteban Marino on the orders of the directors of the Brazilian Football Confederation," Olten Ayres said. "I met João Etzel later and he told me, 'I was the one who won the World Cup.'"

It gets worse because Ayres also recounted an interaction he had with Marino, seemingly confirming the bribe with the added detail that the Uruguayan linesman got stiffed.

"Then some years passed and I met the old and dearly missed Esteban Marino, who was an excellent referee. He told me, 'I'm looking for João Etzel.' I asked why, and he replied, 'João received $10,000 to give me and only delivered $5,000.'"

Folarin Balogun and FIFA's mercy

If Garrincha had been red-carded today like Balogun, the suspension would have been automatic, and it could not be appealed. For all the modern bribery accusations against FIFA, this isn't one that would take.

Since FIFA brought in the automatic suspension, no player has managed to be granted a reprieve. The closest thing to leniency we've seen was bestowed on superstars Ronaldinho and Cristiano Ronaldo. The former received a straight red card in 2002. It was bad enough to potentially trigger a three-game suspension, which would have held the Brazilian out of the final. However, FIFA stuck to the one-game suspension, which Ronaldinho served in the semifinal.

The latter didn't commit his red card offense during the World Cup. He elbowed an Irish defender in the head during a World Cup qualifier in 2025, triggering an automatic three-match ban for violent conduct. Those three matches would have included two group stage games at the World Cup. Ronaldo sat out Portugal's final World Cup qualifier and FIFA commuted the ban to allow him to participate, citing his otherwise clean career.

The USA would have loved for Balogun to be shown similar leniency, but that was always a pipe dream. On Friday, FIFA confirmed that the striker would be suspended for one game. The only mercy they conveyed was not applying a multi-match ban. Balogun will be available for the quarterfinals, if the United States make it through Belgium.

UPDATE: Believe it or not, FIFA suspended Balogun's suspension and will allow him to play for USA against Belgium. Just like Brazil in 1962, there seems to have been presidential intervention. If there was a bribe involved, we'll surely find out about it around 2076.

DebelinJoe wrote: ↑06/07/2026 00:49

Danguba wrote: ↑06/07/2026 00:40 Belgija ne smije pobijediti.

Žutonja će im bombardovati fabrike čokolade...

Danguba wrote: ↑06/07/2026 01:43

DebelinJoe wrote: ↑06/07/2026 00:49

Danguba wrote: ↑06/07/2026 00:40 Belgija ne smije pobijediti.

Žutonja će im bombardovati fabrike čokolade...

Da neće manijak udariti po dijamantima iz Antwerpena.

Osmi Socrates wrote: ↑06/07/2026 01:31 A i poslije toga su idealizirali Garrinchu. S tim što je Garrincha zaista bio fudbalski mađioničar. Balogun je

sime_cipol wrote: ↑06/07/2026 01:45

Osmi Socrates wrote: ↑06/07/2026 01:31 A i poslije toga su idealizirali Garrinchu. S tim što je Garrincha zaista bio fudbalski mađioničar. Balogun je

Velika je razlika. Kad je Garincha igrao, crveni karton nije postojao, nego ti sudija samo kaze izadji. Drugo, to nije značilo automatsku suspenziju sljedecu utakmicu.
I da, Garincha je bio madjionicar.

Osmi Socrates wrote: ↑06/07/2026 01:56

sime_cipol wrote: ↑06/07/2026 01:45

Osmi Socrates wrote: ↑06/07/2026 01:31 A i poslije toga su idealizirali Garrinchu. S tim što je Garrincha zaista bio fudbalski mađioničar. Balogun je

Velika je razlika. Kad je Garincha igrao, crveni karton nije postojao, nego ti sudija samo kaze izadji. Drugo, to nije značilo automatsku suspenziju sljedecu utakmicu.
I da, Garincha je bio madjionicar.

Nisi pročitao čitav članak koji je omarka postavila. Velika kontroverza je bila oko toga, uključujući sudiju koji se nije pojavio na saslušanju. Jednostavno, čovjek nestao. I poslije je taj sudija indirektno pričao da se nije pojavio na saslušanju jer je potplaćen.

Osmi Socrates wrote: ↑06/07/2026 02:51 A potplaćen sudija, to ništa, jel'? Mala sitnica?

Ono što ja uporno govorim je da je prije bilo daleko kriminalnijih svjetskih prvenstava. Tako da ova tvrdnja o najkriminalnijem svjetskom prvenstvu ne stoji.

Na terenu još nisam vidio ništa toliko kriminalno.

Jebeni Henry je rukomet igrao da odvede Francusku na SP, ekran na stadionu to pokazao, on se izvinio Ircima odmah poslije utakmice što je rukomet igrao, tješio ih, pa opet ništa. Isto i sa Lampardovim golom Nijemcima na SP. Metar lopta bila u golu minimum. Ekran na stadionu pokazao.

E sad kad imamo tehnologiju da barem takve stvari eliminiramo iz fudbala, ne valja ni to. Sad daj da svako tumači tehnologiju onako kako se njemu digne ona stvar. Ili je opet ukidaj jer nam ne odgovaraju rezultati.

Što se tiče Baloguna, opet se moram nasmijati. Jebeni Belgijanci ako se boje Baloguna zaslužili su svi zatvor. Izađi na teren, pokaži kvalitetu. Balogun je u pitanju, jbt. Nama nije mogao dati gol. Sreća mu se ukazala.