_BataZiv_0809 wrote:General War wrote:vivaldi wrote:
imaju i ugovor za bajkonur u kazahstanu, ali ipak prave novi kosmodrom u rusiji...
Dobro da ga nisu osvojili

pa to su dva razlicita pojma, ovaj je vojni a drugi je ekonomski pa kad im se ne isplati a kes daju ogroman sele ga za rusiju.
vivaldi, kao i uvijek sjajan, prica cinjenice, a ti bi se na glavu nasadio sam da budes kontra Rusije. Lakapo ba, stvarno peres temu na ruke. Od usporedbi sa Hitlerom (kako originalno) do kvazi zakljucaka.
Po puno domacih pitanja ja i ti se slazemo, ali isto tako kao da ti je Putin pupak vezao pa sta god napravi ti nadjes neki izgovor.
Vivaldi puno dobrih stvari kaze u koje se realno niti ne razumijem sto se tice ekonomije ali ovo sto pricam za rusiju pod putinom je prosto provjerljiva cinjenica:
1. The activation of Vostochny — about 3,400 miles (5,500 kilometers) east of Moscow — would allow Russia to reduce its reliance on the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, which the Russian government leases from the Central Asia nation for $115 million per year.
Kazakhstan has pushed for more oversight at Baikonur, but that may just be pushing the Russians away. In July 2013, a Proton-M carrier rocket exploded shortly after liftoff. It was the fourth Proton disaster at Baikonur in 14 years, say officials at Kazcosmos, the Kazakh space agency, emphasizing that Proton rockets use especially toxic fuels.
Russia has balked at paying for the cleanup, they add. Environmentalists are outraged.
2. Sevastopol base’s significance was highlighted during the 2008 war with Georgia, when the Russian fleet staged blockades in the Black Sea and was used to launch amphibious landings. It has also proved its usefulness to Russia in the Libya crisis, anti-piracy missions in the Indian Ocean and Moscow’s role in dismantling Syria’s chemical weapons.
3.Hopefully, history will not repeat itself. But in view of recent events in Ukraine, especially the annexation of Crimea, one is reminded of some ominous parallels nearly 80 years ago, when Adolf Hitler annexed Austria.
That annexation in 1938 bears close resemblance to Vladimir Putin’s annexation of Crimea in 2014:
■ In both cases, the alleged repression of a shared ethnic group was used to foment unrest and rally support for the takeover agenda.
■ In both cases, a carefully stage-managed popular referendum was held and, in both cases, its ultimate outcome was strongly in favor of annexation.
It almost seems that Putin took a page out of Hitler’s book when he described Crimea’s annexation as a “homecoming.” Hitler had welcomed Austria “home” in the same way (Heim ins Reich).
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