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nosara wrote:

detroit-mercy wrote: Golf dvica je bila referenca na neke 80te kad je bio statusni simbol bas kao i Mont jakna ili 501 . Kredit je kredit, moras ga vratit, nije bitno u kom sistemu. To sto je nasa raja prosla dobro sa kreditima (ko ih je mogao dobiti), je stvar jebene inflacije ali je zato na kraju cio bankarski sistem riknuo, kao i drzava Ono sto hocu da ti kazem, covjek je covjek i u socijalizmu i kapitalizmu, hoce vise, bolje, hoce da guzi bolju trebu i nema se tu sta dodavati. Jedina razlika je u tome sto u socijalizmu mu je drzava nametala da ne treba da guzi onu sto je lijepa nego onu malo ruzniju jer je ona u dusi dobra. Al dzabe sto je dobra kad je nas samoupravni pregalac opet gledao da guzi onu sto je lijepa . Tako da je jedino metodom prisile moga natjerati ljude da jebu ove sto nisu nesto ba lijepe al su zato dobre u dusi .
Btw, stanovi se i dan danas grade i kupuju a dzabalama je davno proslo vrijeme, dzabalama nas je dobro kostala da posljedice osjecamo i danas.
Posebno volim onu mantru, "nije se nista radilo a imalo se", to ti valjda dovoljno govori o svijesti samoupravaljaca i pregaoca .

Mont jakna bila statusni simbol... Drzava nametala ko ce sta guzit... Nista se nije radilo...

Jest te stari lozio...

agnostic_front wrote:Hvala Bogu i nosara se vratio na svoj podforum.

detroit-mercy wrote:

nosara wrote:

detroit-mercy wrote: Golf dvica je bila referenca na neke 80te kad je bio statusni simbol bas kao i Mont jakna ili 501 . Kredit je kredit, moras ga vratit, nije bitno u kom sistemu. To sto je nasa raja prosla dobro sa kreditima (ko ih je mogao dobiti), je stvar jebene inflacije ali je zato na kraju cio bankarski sistem riknuo, kao i drzava Ono sto hocu da ti kazem, covjek je covjek i u socijalizmu i kapitalizmu, hoce vise, bolje, hoce da guzi bolju trebu i nema se tu sta dodavati. Jedina razlika je u tome sto u socijalizmu mu je drzava nametala da ne treba da guzi onu sto je lijepa nego onu malo ruzniju jer je ona u dusi dobra. Al dzabe sto je dobra kad je nas samoupravni pregalac opet gledao da guzi onu sto je lijepa . Tako da je jedino metodom prisile moga natjerati ljude da jebu ove sto nisu nesto ba lijepe al su zato dobre u dusi .
Btw, stanovi se i dan danas grade i kupuju a dzabalama je davno proslo vrijeme, dzabalama nas je dobro kostala da posljedice osjecamo i danas.
Posebno volim onu mantru, "nije se nista radilo a imalo se", to ti valjda dovoljno govori o svijesti samoupravaljaca i pregaoca .

Mont jakna bila statusni simbol... Drzava nametala ko ce sta guzit... Nista se nije radilo...

Jest te stari lozio...

Ti si izgleda jos uvijek nalozen pokusaj skontat sta je pisac htio da kaze, nemoj na prvu. Zadihat ces se .

pasha078 wrote: Slazem se sto se tice etnickog inzenjeringa, mislim da je Rusija prva zemlja nakon Bizanta u srednjem vijeku, koja se bavila masovnim preseljavanjima cijelih naroda.
A za pitanje nacionalizma, kako je ovo "akademska rasprava" ne mozemo staviti "gradnju nacije" i "socijalizam" u istu recenicu. Vec sam pokusaj granje nacije bio bi u suprotnosti sa izvornim marxizmom, te je takva granja nadnacija u SSSR i Jugoslaviji i bila dokaz da socijalizam ne radi. Po Marxu, nakon revolucije, nacija kao takva bi odumrla jer u odsustvu kapitalisticki odnosa ona je besmislen koncept. To su "teoreticari" SSSR i Yu znali vrlo dobro, mozda upravo zato nisu svojski radili na izgradnji nacije jer bi to impliciralo klasni karakter njihovih drustava. Samo pitanje je ko sad posjeduje sredstva za proizvodnju? A tu sa odgovorom priskace u pomoc Djilas.....

nosara wrote:

detroit-mercy wrote:

nosara wrote:
Mont jakna bila statusni simbol... Drzava nametala ko ce sta guzit... Nista se nije radilo...

Jest te stari lozio...

Ti si izgleda jos uvijek nalozen pokusaj skontat sta je pisac htio da kaze, nemoj na prvu. Zadihat ces se .

Tesko je skontat pisca...

detroit-mercy wrote:

Lajavikrelac wrote: Aha.... kredit u Yu i kredit danas su baš ista stvar, ko kruška i brest Golf dvica ti je ono baš za poređenje u 2014 godini... Zato sad stanova i kuća koliko hoćeš i kad hoćeš na prodaju, hoćeš manji hoćeš veći, al hajde neka ga prosječan čovjek kupi bez da zaduži tri generacije unaprijed

Golf dvica je bila referenca na neke 80te kad je bio statusni simbol bas kao i Mont jakna ili 501 . Kredit je kredit, moras ga vratit, nije bitno u kom sistemu. To sto je nasa raja prosla dobro sa kreditima (ko ih je mogao dobiti), je stvar jebene inflacije ali je zato na kraju cio bankarski sistem riknuo, kao i drzava Ono sto hocu da ti kazem, covjek je covjek i u socijalizmu i kapitalizmu, hoce vise, bolje, hoce da guzi bolju trebu i nema se tu sta dodavati. Jedina razlika je u tome sto u socijalizmu mu je drzava nametala da ne treba da guzi onu sto je lijepa nego onu malo ruzniju jer je ona u dusi dobra. Al dzabe sto je dobra kad je nas samoupravni pregalac opet gledao da guzi onu sto je lijepa . Tako da je jedino metodom prisile moga natjerati ljude da jebu ove sto nisu nesto ba lijepe al su zato dobre u dusi .
Btw, stanovi se i dan danas grade i kupuju a dzabalama je davno proslo vrijeme, dzabalama nas je dobro kostala da posljedice osjecamo i danas.
Posebno volim onu mantru, "nije se nista radilo a imalo se", to ti valjda dovoljno govori o svijesti samoupravaljaca i pregaoca .

ali je zato na kraju cio bankarski sistem riknuo, kao i drzava

AliceInChains wrote:Nego, da se vratimo temi:

"The Russia-China Axis Is Here and It’s Changing the World"

https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/1221 ... -the-world

Zanimljiv tekst, u kojem autor naravno krivi Putinov expansionizam za razlog, iako dvije rijecenice prije fino remizira istiniti razlog

Ovdje naravno igra veliku ulogu Evropska politika, koja je Rusima zatvorila svaku drugu opciju, nego da se 100 posto otvore Kinezima.

Morate procitati i ozbiljne komentare na tekst....cisto radi relaksacije

The Russian economy
The end of the line

For more than a decade oil income and consumer spending have delivered growth to Vladimir Putin’s Russia. Not any more
...
Russia’s economy is teetering on the verge of recession. The central bank says it expects the next two years to bring no growth. Inflation is on the rise. The rouble has lost 30% of its value since the start of the year, and with it the faith of the country’s businessmen. Banks have been cut off from Western capital markets, and the price of oil—Russia’s most important export commodity—has fallen hard. Consumption, the main driver of growth in the previous decade, is slumping. Money and people are leaving the country.
...
In 2007, when oil was $72 a barrel, the economy managed to grow at 8.5%; in 2012 oil at $111 a barrel bought growth of just 3.4%. Between 2010 and 2013, when oil prices were high, the country’s net outflow of capital was $232 billion—20 times what it was between 2004 and 2008. Russian economists are now debating how long before the economy faces collapse. Most think it can totter on for two years or so. But there is a real chance things could get a lot worse a lot sooner.

The depreciation of the rouble, which closely tracks the oil price, has helped Russia cushion its budget as that price has slumped (see chart). When the oil price falls, so does the rouble; thus in rouble terms the amount of money the oil brings in stays roughly the same. But it cannot buy as much. Russia imports a great deal—the total value of imported goods, $45 billion in 2000, was $341 billion in 2013—and so a devalued rouble quickly stokes inflation. It is predicted to reach 9% by the end of this year; for food the rate is higher still. If it is to compensate the population for this loss in its spending power, the government will have to run a bigger deficit. If it does not it will face discontent.

A weak rouble also makes servicing foreign debt more expensive. Russia’s sovereign debt is just $57 billion, but its corporate debt is ten times as high. Some of it has been racked up by state corporations and national energy companies, which gives it a quasi-sovereign status. And by the end of 2015 Russian firms will have to repay about $130 billion of foreign debt.

Mr Putin, who came to power in the wake of the 1998 default, knows the value of money and believes enough of it solves everything. He started off strongly averse to low reserves and high debt, and saw that the country’s reserves built up accordingly. In the run-up to the global financial crisis Russia had reserves of $570 billion—almost a third of GDP. This served the country well after the crisis hit; the government spent $220 billion refinancing banks and defending the rouble.

In 2011, though, despite the high oil price, Russia’s reserves stopped increasing. Money was spent instead on raising salaries and pensions and financing the armed forces. The increase in military spending, up 30% since 2008, was the main reason Alexei Kudrin, Russia’s prudent finance minister, chose to resign in 2011.
...

Captain Ahab wrote:Poucan clanak o ruskoj ekonomiji iz 'neoliberalnog' The Economista

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/ ... mir-putins

The Russian economy
The end of the line

For more than a decade oil income and consumer spending have delivered growth to Vladimir Putin’s Russia. Not any more
...
Russia’s economy is teetering on the verge of recession. The central bank says it expects the next two years to bring no growth. Inflation is on the rise. The rouble has lost 30% of its value since the start of the year, and with it the faith of the country’s businessmen. Banks have been cut off from Western capital markets, and the price of oil—Russia’s most important export commodity—has fallen hard. Consumption, the main driver of growth in the previous decade, is slumping. Money and people are leaving the country.
...
In 2007, when oil was $72 a barrel, the economy managed to grow at 8.5%; in 2012 oil at $111 a barrel bought growth of just 3.4%. Between 2010 and 2013, when oil prices were high, the country’s net outflow of capital was $232 billion—20 times what it was between 2004 and 2008. Russian economists are now debating how long before the economy faces collapse. Most think it can totter on for two years or so. But there is a real chance things could get a lot worse a lot sooner.

The depreciation of the rouble, which closely tracks the oil price, has helped Russia cushion its budget as that price has slumped (see chart). When the oil price falls, so does the rouble; thus in rouble terms the amount of money the oil brings in stays roughly the same. But it cannot buy as much. Russia imports a great deal—the total value of imported goods, $45 billion in 2000, was $341 billion in 2013—and so a devalued rouble quickly stokes inflation. It is predicted to reach 9% by the end of this year; for food the rate is higher still. If it is to compensate the population for this loss in its spending power, the government will have to run a bigger deficit. If it does not it will face discontent.

A weak rouble also makes servicing foreign debt more expensive. Russia’s sovereign debt is just $57 billion, but its corporate debt is ten times as high. Some of it has been racked up by state corporations and national energy companies, which gives it a quasi-sovereign status. And by the end of 2015 Russian firms will have to repay about $130 billion of foreign debt.

Mr Putin, who came to power in the wake of the 1998 default, knows the value of money and believes enough of it solves everything. He started off strongly averse to low reserves and high debt, and saw that the country’s reserves built up accordingly. In the run-up to the global financial crisis Russia had reserves of $570 billion—almost a third of GDP. This served the country well after the crisis hit; the government spent $220 billion refinancing banks and defending the rouble.

In 2011, though, despite the high oil price, Russia’s reserves stopped increasing. Money was spent instead on raising salaries and pensions and financing the armed forces. The increase in military spending, up 30% since 2008, was the main reason Alexei Kudrin, Russia’s prudent finance minister, chose to resign in 2011.
...

AliceInChains wrote:Nego, da se vratimo temi:

"The Russia-China Axis Is Here and It’s Changing the World"

https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/1221 ... -the-world

Zanimljiv tekst, u kojem autor naravno krivi Putinov expansionizam za razlog, iako dvije rijecenice prije fino remizira istiniti razlog

Ovdje naravno igra veliku ulogu Evropska politika, koja je Rusima zatvorila svaku drugu opciju, nego da se 100 posto otvore Kinezima.

Morate procitati i ozbiljne komentare na tekst....cisto radi relaksacije

nosara wrote:

detroit-mercy wrote: Ocito je da je Putin nervozan.

Jeste, tacno to je sukus ovog teksta...

Avetinho wrote:

nosara wrote:

detroit-mercy wrote: Ocito je da je Putin nervozan.

Jeste, tacno to je sukus ovog teksta...

Da li je ovaj covjek u svojih 14000 postova ikad ista smisleno napisao?

nosara wrote:

Avetinho wrote:

nosara wrote:
Jeste, tacno to je sukus ovog teksta...

Da li je ovaj covjek u svojih 14000 postova ikad ista smisleno napisao?

Kakva korist tebi licno...? Ti bi, kao, shvatio...!?

Avetinho wrote:

nosara wrote:

Avetinho wrote: Da li je ovaj covjek u svojih 14000 postova ikad ista smisleno napisao?

Kakva korist tebi licno...? Ti bi, kao, shvatio...!?

Postove vecine ostalih jezikolizaca putinkovih noznih prstrica uglavnom razumijem, ali brate tvoje nikako.

nosara wrote:

Avetinho wrote:

nosara wrote:
Kakva korist tebi licno...? Ti bi, kao, shvatio...!?

Postove vecine ostalih jezikolizaca putinkovih noznih prstrica uglavnom razumijem, ali brate tvoje nikako.

Bogovutimajku, cista erotika... I, kakve jos fantazije imas...?

Avetinho wrote:

nosara wrote:

Avetinho wrote: Postove vecine ostalih jezikolizaca putinkovih noznih prstrica uglavnom razumijem, ali brate tvoje nikako.

Bogovutimajku, cista erotika... I, kakve jos fantazije imas...?

Rece lik kome je lokacija SFRJ... I, kakve jos fantazije imas...?

nosara wrote:

Avetinho wrote: Postove vecine ostalih jezikolizaca putinkovih noznih prstrica uglavnom razumijem, ali brate tvoje nikako.

Bogovutimajku, cista erotika... I, kakve jos fantazije imas...?

nosara wrote:

Avetinho wrote: Rece lik kome je lokacija SFRJ... I, kakve jos fantazije imas...?

Ti, u zagrljaju sa sarkomom i kaheksijom...

parangal_ wrote: kakve to veze ima? to je staljinov hir i nije vezano za ideologiju. nacisticka ideologija pretpostavlja istrebljenje židova. jel kontaš razliku kad ti se nacrta ili ne?

5 0 5 wrote:http://time.com/3596744/russia-economy- ... gn-policy/