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Da li razumijete zasto ljudi glasaju za Trumpa?

Poll ended at 06/10/2016 21:19

Razumijem
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Znaci predsjednik dobio mandat, sastavio Kabinet, i za poziciju Secretary of State koja je jedna od najvaznijih u zemlji zaposlio nekog za kog sad tvrdi da je “dumb as a rock” i “lazy as hell”. Mislim, da ostavimo takav jezik i sam kontekst tvrdnje po strani, sta to govori o samom predsjedniku kad i ako za jednu od najbitnijih pozicija izabire nekog takvog? Sta to govori o samom sefu??

Prosto nevjerovatno, na mnogo nivoa.
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Sta reci?

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Jebo Nadrealiste. :mrgreen:
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#14503 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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U ovom trenutku mislim da i GOP radi protiv drugog mandata Trumpa :lol:
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#14504 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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Da je Trumpa briga sta ce ko reci mi nikad ne bi ni culi za njega. Majstor pola mandata odradio a terete ga za veleizdaju (zapravo cupaju sebi kosu sa glave)
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terete oni njega za krsenje zakona na vise frontova i nivoa. juce smo saznali da ga se i zvanicno tereti za krsenje izbornog zakona zbog zataskavanja afere sa stormy daniels. tu su jos ukljucene i porezne zavzlame kurci palci. znaci nikakve veze sa rusijom sto je odvojena istraga
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2016. drk'o na Rexa :lol:
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#14507 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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Steze se obruc: :oops:
Is This the Beginning of the End for Trump?
Sentencing memos reveal damning evidence about collusion and campaign finance violations.

On Friday, federal prosecutors in Manhattan and the special counsel, Robert Mueller, delivered a potentially devastating one-two punch against President Trump. Coming late in the day, they made for bracing end-of-the-week reading.

Calling on the court to impose a sentence of substantial imprisonment against Michael Cohen, the president’s former personal attorney, prosecutors in the Southern District of New York stated that Mr. Trump, the Trump Organization and the campaign were all directly involved in an illegal scheme to silence two women who claimed they had affairs with Mr. Trump. Prosecutors wrote that payments made by Mr. Cohen and other actions were taken “with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election” and pursued “in coordination with and at the direction of Individual 1” — that is, Mr. Trump.

The Trump Organization’s reimbursements to Mr. Cohen for payments were fraudulently disguised as legal fees — and, according to the memo, were approved by senior executives at the organization. The New York prosecutors also disclosed that they are investigating additional unspecified matters involving Mr. Cohen and, presumably, the Trump Organization. In light of these disclosures, the likelihood that the company and the Trump campaign face charges is now high.

Although President Trump may avoid a similar fate because the Justice Department is unlikely to indict a sitting president, he could be named as an unindicted co-conspirator, as was President Richard Nixon, or charged if he leaves office before the statute of limitations runs out (most likely in 2022).

In crediting Mr. Cohen with providing “substantial and significant efforts” to assist the investigation, Mr. Mueller’s separate sentencing memo details new evidence of collusion with Russia, including a previously unreported phone conversation in November 2015 between Mr. Cohen and an unnamed Russian who claimed to be a “trusted person” in Moscow. The Russian explained to Mr. Cohen how the Russian government could provide the Trump campaign with “political synergy” and “synergy on a government level,” and offered to set up a meeting between Mr. Trump, then a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, and President Vladimir Putin of Russia. :shock:

This newly disclosed conversation directly speaks to the question of collusion — the outreach was explicitly political and was focused on how each side would gain from a potential partnership.

Mr. Mueller also notes that Mr. Cohen provided his team with additional information relevant to the “core” of the special counsel investigation.

The special counsel focuses on Mr. Cohen’s contacts with people connected to the White House in 2017 and 2018, possibly further implicating the president and others in his orbit in conspiracy to obstruct justice or to suborn perjury. Mr. Mueller specifically mentions that Mr. Cohen provided invaluable insight into the “preparing and circulating” of his testimony to Congress — and if others, including the president, knew about the false testimony or encouraged it in any way, they would be at substantial legal risk.

Mr. Trump’s legal woes do not end there. The special counsel also advanced the president’s potential exposure under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act for activities relating to a potential Trump Tower Moscow. Mr. Mueller noted that the Moscow project was a lucrative business opportunity that actively sought Russian government approval, and that the unnamed Russian told Mr. Cohen that there was “no bigger warranty in any project than the consent” of Mr. Putin.

If recent reports that Mr. Cohen floated the idea of giving Mr. Putin a $50 million luxury apartment in a future Trump Tower Moscow prove true, both the president and his company could face substantial jeopardy.

In a second blow to the president, on Friday prosecutors also disclosed a list of false statements that Paul Manafort, his former campaign chairman, allegedly made to federal investigators in breach of the cooperation agreement he entered into following his conviction for financial fraud and subsequent guilty plea to criminal conspiracy.

Some of the lies that the special counsel spells out in the redacted memorandum appear to implicate the president and those close to him in possible collusion and obstruction crimes. Notably, Mr. Manafort is accused of lying to the special counsel regarding his contacts with the Trump administration.

We don’t know the content of those contacts, but considering public statements about potential pardons, it is not hard to imagine they could implicate the president and others in a conspiracy to obstruct justice or witness tampering if, for example, they suggested a potential pardon if Mr. Manafort protected the president.

Contrary to the president’s claim that all of this “totally clears” him, the danger to Mr. Trump, his business and his campaign has compounded significantly. For all these reasons, the president is unlikely to have a restful, tweet-free weekend — or a calm 2019, for that matter.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/07/opin ... %2Fopinion

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New York Times: Kushner offered advice to Saudi crown prince after journalist's death
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/08/poli ... index.html
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#14509 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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Gledam sinoc film Mark Felt (po istoimenom stvarnom liku - duboko grlo) i poredim koja limunada sa ovom situaciom oko izbora sa trampom.
Da je ovaj tupan bio mjesto Nixona, nikad ostupio ne bi.
Ponavljam, ono je ko ivica i marica za ovo danasnje pa digla onolika frka sto medija, javnosti....
I afera watergate osta sinonim za nesto veliko u americkoj historiji.
A trampavi :izet:
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#14511 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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Nadam se da ga nece skinuti prije izbora. Jer ako ga skinu dolazi pence na izbore a i on bi sigurno pomilovao Trumpa. Mozda i nebi jer bi se ukazalo da bi to bio los potez za uzbore, ipak bolje Trump na izborima nego Pence ili neko treci.
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#14512 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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I ja mislim da preostale dvije godine samo trebaju biti kontrolisani kaos. Njemu privezati uzed koliko je moguce, a vec je uostalom tako.

Moguce da ce ga HoR impeachovat ko sto su Clintona svojevremeno, ali mi je to bezze ako ne ide dalje.

U svakom slucaju sve treba fino da izadje na vidjelo. Znaci bez prekrizenih dijelova u optuznicama. Pa nek svako zna.
On nikad nece izgubiti podrsku vecine ljudi koji su glasali za njega. I Nixon je i pored toga sto je bilo sve snimljeno imao podrsku bar cetvrtine ljudi, cijelo vrijeme. Oni ce misliti da mu se nedemokratski oduzima vlast, i to ce biti problem. Ja bih radije da do kraja ostane, da se vidi do kraja sta znaci kad izaberes debila na vlast.

No, sad pitanje je, da li se takav lik smije ostaviti na toj poziciji ako aktivno nesto radi kontra drzave.
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#14513 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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video wrote:Gledam sinoc film Mark Felt (po istoimenom stvarnom liku - duboko grlo) i poredim koja limunada sa ovom situaciom oko izbora sa trampom.
Da je ovaj tupan bio mjesto Nixona, nikad ostupio ne bi.
Ponavljam, ono je ko ivica i marica za ovo danasnje pa digla onolika frka sto medija, javnosti....
I afera watergate osta sinonim za nesto veliko u americkoj historiji.
A trampavi :izet:
Da ali ta i ova Amerika se razlikuju debelo. Bilo mi je nepojmljivo da ovaj tip pobijedi. Pobijedio je ponajvise zbog gerrymandering-a koji je odradjen decenijama ranije, ali ono sto brine vise od svega jeste s kojom strascu ga brani veliki dio americke javnosti. Apsolutno je nevjerovatno da ono sto on govori i sto radi predstavlja olicenje logike za toliko veliki broj ljudi. Nevjerovatno!
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Ja_Ja wrote:
video wrote:Gledam sinoc film Mark Felt (po istoimenom stvarnom liku - duboko grlo) i poredim koja limunada sa ovom situaciom oko izbora sa trampom.
Da je ovaj tupan bio mjesto Nixona, nikad ostupio ne bi.
Ponavljam, ono je ko ivica i marica za ovo danasnje pa digla onolika frka sto medija, javnosti....
I afera watergate osta sinonim za nesto veliko u americkoj historiji.
A trampavi :izet:
Da ali ta i ova Amerika se razlikuju debelo. Bilo mi je nepojmljivo da ovaj tip pobijedi. Pobijedio je ponajvise zbog gerrymandering-a koji je odradjen decenijama ranije, ali ono sto brine vise od svega jeste s kojom strascu ga brani veliki dio americke javnosti. Apsolutno je nevjerovatno da ono sto on govori i sto radi predstavlja olicenje logike za toliko veliki broj ljudi. Nevjerovatno!
Ali pricamo o manje od pola vijeka vremenske razlike. Hladni rat u šesneS. Vijetnam u velikom zamahu.
Pa opet, institucije su odradile posao kako treba a javnost ga nije toliko "pazila" kao ovog idiota sto sada rade.
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video wrote: Ali pricamo o manje od pola vijeka vremenske razlike. Hladni rat u šesneS. Vijetnam u velikom zamahu.
Pa opet, institucije su odradile posao kako treba a javnost ga nije toliko "pazila" kao ovog idiota sto sada rade.
Ispade, sve gO redneksi i kkk-lanasi kolo vode
Zato sto je doslo do strasne polarizacije izmedju politickih strana u zadnjih par decenija. Republikance boli kurac sta Trump radi sa strane, samo dok radi ono sto njima odgovara politicki. Drugo je sto ih je strah nOroda i gubitka pozicija.
Ali ono sto je mozda bitnije je da su tada Kongres drzale Demokrate, ne Nixonovi Republikanci.
Ja_Ja wrote: Da ali ta i ova Amerika se razlikuju debelo. Bilo mi je nepojmljivo da ovaj tip pobijedi. Pobijedio je ponajvise zbog gerrymandering-a koji je odradjen decenijama ranije, ali ono sto brine vise od svega jeste s kojom strascu ga brani veliki dio americke javnosti. Apsolutno je nevjerovatno da ono sto on govori i sto radi predstavlja olicenje logike za toliko veliki broj ljudi. Nevjerovatno!
Nema gerrymandering veze sa predsjednickim izborima. ;-)
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Tehnicki si upravu. Gerrymandaring nema veze sa predsjednickim izborima.
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Impeachment je ko zuti karton igracu koji je nakon gola za 3:0 u 95 minuti skinuo dres. Samo je tu da bi se demokrati mogli kurciti necim. Lako bi se moglo desiti da trump bude prvi impeach presjednik u prvom mandatu a osvoji drugi mandat :-).
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video wrote:
Ja_Ja wrote:
video wrote:Gledam sinoc film Mark Felt (po istoimenom stvarnom liku - duboko grlo) i poredim koja limunada sa ovom situaciom oko izbora sa trampom.
Da je ovaj tupan bio mjesto Nixona, nikad ostupio ne bi.
Ponavljam, ono je ko ivica i marica za ovo danasnje pa digla onolika frka sto medija, javnosti....
I afera watergate osta sinonim za nesto veliko u americkoj historiji.
A trampavi :izet:
Da ali ta i ova Amerika se razlikuju debelo. Bilo mi je nepojmljivo da ovaj tip pobijedi. Pobijedio je ponajvise zbog gerrymandering-a koji je odradjen decenijama ranije, ali ono sto brine vise od svega jeste s kojom strascu ga brani veliki dio americke javnosti. Apsolutno je nevjerovatno da ono sto on govori i sto radi predstavlja olicenje logike za toliko veliki broj ljudi. Nevjerovatno!
Ali pricamo o manje od pola vijeka vremenske razlike. Hladni rat u šesneS. Vijetnam u velikom zamahu.
Pa opet, institucije su odradile posao kako treba a javnost ga nije toliko "pazila" kao ovog idiota sto sada rade.
Ispade, sve gO redneksi i kkk-lanasi kolo vode
Tada su, za razliku od danas, postojali mediji sa dignitetom i prosjecan Amerikanac je znao koji su to. Novinari su bili javne licnosti i njihova rijec se cijenila.
Sada imas nepreglednu zbrku pisanih i elektronskih medija, gdje se golotinja, jet set i senzacionalizam mijesa sa dezinformacijama.
Moras biti zbilja inteligentan i obrazovan da bi razdvojio medijsko zito od kukolja. U tom biotopu posebno dobro uspijeva species tipa Trump.
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To je cijena politicke korektnosti, ne samo u USA. Ljudi su izgubili povjerenje u medije, pa imaju sada svoje. Od radio stranica do interneta.
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Google -idiot -- ko se pojavi... :lol: Republikaci protestuju, moguca i tuzba---- :lol:
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madner wrote:To je cijena politicke korektnosti, ne samo u USA. Ljudi su izgubili povjerenje u medije, pa imaju sada svoje. Od radio stranica do interneta.
Ljudi su izgubili povjerenje u medije jer su glupi i neobrazovani, pa su im kvalitetni mediji previse komplicirani. Zato se okrecu onim medijima koji podrzavaju njihovo plitko misljenje.

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Ja_Ja wrote:A da ponekad ne znamo ko je s druge strane forumskom imena ce ti reci i ovaj podatak: ja nisam diplomirao politicke nauke, ja sam magistrirao politicke nauke, i radim a i radio sam kao savjetnik velikom broju politicara (vecinom vani), te sam ili vodio ili ucestvovao do sada u bar 30 politickih kampanja kako kod nas tako i u Sjedinjenim Drzavama. Dosadasnji mi je uspijeh gotovo 100%, tako da se usudjujem da kazem da znam nesto malo o politici.
Ja_Ja wrote: Da ali ta i ova Amerika se razlikuju debelo. Bilo mi je nepojmljivo da ovaj tip pobijedi. Pobijedio je ponajvise zbog gerrymandering-a koji je odradjen decenijama ranije, ali ono sto brine vise od svega jeste s kojom strascu ga brani veliki dio americke javnosti. Apsolutno je nevjerovatno da ono sto on govori i sto radi predstavlja olicenje logike za toliko veliki broj ljudi. Nevjerovatno!
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moonca wrote:Google -idiot -- ko se pojavi... :lol: Republikaci protestuju, moguca i tuzba---- :lol:
Hahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: , Googleov sef morao ici u Kongres da objasni kako Google radi. :D Kaze nije do njih. :lol:

Najbolje jos kad procitah ovo:
Republican Steve King asking Mr Pichai to explain why his granddaughter's iPhone was acting strangely.

In response, Mr Pichai explained the phone was not made by Google.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ovo je dokaz da je kretenluk proporcionalan nivou inteligencije. Ovaj King je americka verzija evropskih far-right desnicara.
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