#14476 Re: Irak
Posted: 28/06/2017 17:49
E onda drugom prilikom, jer ja tek u petak u tuzli 
Putnik ali stvarno wrote:Brate djedovi su ti bili crveni baroni do yaya ili makar spijunisalik79 wrote:Boga mi, jedan djed mi 70-tih vozio metalik srebreno-sivog Peugeota 404, sa pokretnim krovomPutnik ali stvarno wrote: dok su se moj i tvoj stari lozili na fice, skode i keca,
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, a drugi prvo Forda Taunusa, a zatim Golfa1.
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Ko je John?salik79 wrote:Christian Hashd commander on #MosulOp: "They are the descendants of Yazid, and we are the descendants of John (companion of Imam Husayn)" https://t.co/GWerpQAmTH
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_bin_HuwaiJohn bin Huwai جون بن حوي was a Christian freedman who died in battle as part of Hussein ibn Ali's army at the Battle of Karbala on Muharram 10, 60 AH (680 AD). John was a former slave of Abu Dharr al-Ghifari. When Abu Dharr was exiled from Medina by Uthman ibn Affan, John went to Ali ibn Abu Taleb who invited him to stay on as his companion. When Ali ibn Abu Taleb was killed, John stayed with Ali's son Hassan and after Hassan's death, he moved in with Hussein. When Hussein left Medina John insisted on accompanying him
Nemaju oni veze s ovim čovjekom, kao ni sami Iračani sa hazreti Husejnom kojeg su izdali. Jedino se ISIL-u mogu nađi dobri dvojnici...sunceKOtepsija wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_bin_HuwaiJohn bin Huwai جون بن حوي was a Christian freedman who died in battle as part of Hussein ibn Ali's army at the Battle of Karbala on Muharram 10, 60 AH (680 AD). John was a former slave of Abu Dharr al-Ghifari. When Abu Dharr was exiled from Medina by Uthman ibn Affan, John went to Ali ibn Abu Taleb who invited him to stay on as his companion. When Ali ibn Abu Taleb was killed, John stayed with Ali's son Hassan and after Hassan's death, he moved in with Hussein. When Hussein left Medina John insisted on accompanying him
In mid-November 2014, following the Battle of Baqofah, where the Kurdish Peshmerga took back control of the Assyrian town of Baqofah from ISIS, a Peshmerga commander, Abdul Rahman Kawriny, said: "We, the Peshmerga, came here from Erbil to protect our Christian brothers and their homes. There is constant cooperation and assistance from both sides". The ISIS flag was replaced by that of Dwekh Nawsha. Kisso added: "We are patrolling day and night. We move around these areas and observe the situation... [we will protect monasteries, churches and artifacts] because this is the beauty of the Mesopotamian civilisation".





sto bi rekli preko bare that is just your opinion, a u takvim situacijama o tome se ne raspravlja pa ti ostavljam za pravo ili krivo jer svakom je njegovo cedo najdraze...arzuhal wrote:Nemaju oni veze s ovim čovjekom, kao ni sami Iračani sa hazreti Husejnom kojeg su izdali. Jedino se ISIL-u mogu nađi dobri dvojnici...sunceKOtepsija wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_bin_HuwaiJohn bin Huwai جون بن حوي was a Christian freedman who died in battle as part of Hussein ibn Ali's army at the Battle of Karbala on Muharram 10, 60 AH (680 AD). John was a former slave of Abu Dharr al-Ghifari. When Abu Dharr was exiled from Medina by Uthman ibn Affan, John went to Ali ibn Abu Taleb who invited him to stay on as his companion. When Ali ibn Abu Taleb was killed, John stayed with Ali's son Hassan and after Hassan's death, he moved in with Hussein. When Hussein left Medina John insisted on accompanying him
To je dolje sve borba mitomana haman...

Svaka cast djedu i hvala mu gdje cuo i ne cuo.. nije bilo nimalo zanimljivo 2014. spremile se bile osnovne stvari, tozla ii tako to i cekas hocel puknut da bjezis u brdosalik79 wrote: Posto sam stigao kod svojih, zarovih se u stare albume i izrovih sivu pticuOvo je slika iz 1976., slikano u Banja Luci, na vjencanju majkinog (bakinog) sestrica:
Inace, ovaj djed je bio osnivac i nacelnik jednog od odjela u tadasnjem Klinickom centru "dr. Mustafa Mujbegovic", a majka sef apoteke. (prve generacije poslijeratnih svrsenika medicinskog i farmaceutskog fakulteta Sveucilista u Zagrebu)
A drugi djed je kao prvi poslijeratni gadjevinski inzinjer (Univerzitet u Ljubljani) i vrsni staticar, bio direktor i tehnicki direktor u dva ovdasnja preduzeca. Izmedju ostalog, bio je i projektant (i nadzor) jedne od najtanjih lucnih brana, brane na jezeru Modrac. Ta brana je i nakon 50 godina (2008. je prvi puta uradjena djelimicna sanacija) izdrzala vodenu masu 2014, koja je izgledala ovako:
A ovako izgleda u normalnim uvjetima (normalnom vodostaju):
Vidis da nisu morali biti ni crveni baroni, ni spijuni, ni placene ubice, a ni grobari
“They say you are Kurdish. If Kurdistan holds a referendum, what are you doing in Baghdad?” Akram, a Faili Kurd, described his recent encounters with Arabs in the city to Rudaw's Baghdad correspondent Bahman Hassan.
One Faili Kurdish man at a Baghdad tea shop said they have asked Kurdish President Masoud Barzani for help. “We as the Faili Kurds in Baghdad ask the Kurdish government and the parties to think about us.”
“If the Kurdistan Region wants to declare independence and become an independent state, let it become independent, but not at the expense of the Kurds of Baghdad,” said Sheikh Jawad, a notable member of the Faili community.
“Today we face the threat of forced migration, similar to what we faced in the past when our homes and property were stolen by the former regime. We expect the moment will come when we will be forced to move and scheming against Faili Kurds will begin again,” said Sheikh Tahsen, a tribal leader.
“Of course we are threatened because of the referendum. Therefore, we need to come up with a way to defend ourselves and reach an agreement among ourselves to form a military force. We have already declared that the force we are going to form will be secret and we will not reveal the numbers of the force or the commanders,” said Ali Akbar, a Faili leader.
Faili Kurds are Shiites who have mainly lived in the south in Baghdad and some of the disputed areas on the southern edge of the Kurdistan Region. Decades ago, they were wealthy leaders of the business community and strong supporters of Kurdish independence movements. That, along with their Shiite faith, made them the target of persecution by the regime of Saddam Hussein which is now labeled as genocide by an Iraqi high court.
Thousands were killed and as many as 1.4 million were stripped of their citizenship and deported to Iran between the 1960s and 1980. After the overthrow of Hussein’s regime, less than 15,000 have returned.
Masala, redak slucaj u nas da neko odskoci, a da nije iz profesija - mojih pretpostavki. Gradjevinci da, imali su pristup kesu za rad kod nesvrstanihsalik79 wrote: Posto sam stigao kod svojih, zarovih se u stare albume i izrovih sivu pticuOvo je slika iz 1976., slikano u Banja Luci, na vjencanju majkinog (bakinog) sestrica:
Inace, ovaj djed je bio osnivac i nacelnik jednog od odjela u tadasnjem Klinickom centru "dr. Mustafa Mujbegovic", a majka sef apoteke. (prve generacije poslijeratnih svrsenika medicinskog i farmaceutskog fakulteta Sveucilista u Zagrebu)
A drugi djed je kao prvi poslijeratni gadjevinski inzinjer (Univerzitet u Ljubljani) i vrsni staticar, bio direktor i tehnicki direktor u dva ovdasnja preduzeca. Izmedju ostalog, bio je i projektant (i nadzor) jedne od najtanjih lucnih brana, brane na jezeru Modrac. Ta brana je i nakon 50 godina (2008. je prvi puta uradjena djelimicna sanacija) izdrzala vodenu masu 2014, koja je izgledala ovako:
A ovako izgleda u normalnim uvjetima (normalnom vodostaju):
Vidis da nisu morali biti ni crveni baroni, ni spijuni, ni placene ubice, a ni grobari
Sta reci, nagledao sam se Barzanijevih sloboda samo tako, mani se romantike - covek je od vecih satrapa, a primitivizamKikibombona wrote:Bgm, Putnice, to je kod tebe ozbiljnije nego sam mislio.
Allah rahmetile. Hvalahandžar88 wrote: Svaka cast djedu i hvala mu gdje cuo i ne cuo.. nije bilo nimalo zanimljivo 2014. spremile se bile osnovne stvari, tozla ii tako to i cekas hocel puknut da bjezis u brdo, tri metra je voda preko brane preljevala, hvala Bogu i tvom djedu inace ne bi Lukavca ni bilo da je popustila, ned'o Bog da nam je to sda gradila
Da ga Allah uvede u najljepse prostore dzeneta, bas je haman poseban covjek biosalik79 wrote:Allah rahmetile. Hvalahandžar88 wrote: Svaka cast djedu i hvala mu gdje cuo i ne cuo.. nije bilo nimalo zanimljivo 2014. spremile se bile osnovne stvari, tozla ii tako to i cekas hocel puknut da bjezis u brdo, tri metra je voda preko brane preljevala, hvala Bogu i tvom djedu inace ne bi Lukavca ni bilo da je popustila, ned'o Bog da nam je to sda gradila
Bio je poseban insan, sav od reda, nepotkupljiv, neustrasiv...Birvaktile, kada je iz nekih svojih razloga Pasaga Mandzic dosao u sukob sa tadasnjim urgentnim hirurgom u Tuzli, a djedovim prijateljem (koji je poslije toga otisao prvo u Doboj, a zatim u Njemacku, gdje je kasnije postao sef klinike i odatle otisao u penziju), djed mu je rekao sta misli, nakon cega je ovaj poceo i njemu da prijeti. Odgovorio mu je: "Slusaj Pasaga, ti si to sto jesi samo ovdje, a H.M. je dipl.ing. gradjevine bilo gdje na Svijetu.".
Sto se tice izgradnje, gdje je on bio projektant i nadzor, uvijek je moralo sve biti po p.s.-u, bez obzira o kome, ili cemu je bila rijec. Da mu je Tito nesto naredio, a sto ne bi bilo po p.s.-u, ne bi stavio svoj potpis, nego bi mu rekao da, ako zeli, moze on (Tito) potpisati, ali H.M. jok![]()
Moj otac ga zamolio da potpise upotrebnu dozvolu za zgradu u koju je, frisko vjencan, trebao useliti (zbog tonjenja je pra-nena, s kojom je zivio moj babo, morala iseliti iz svoje kuce u Dzindic mahali), da bi mu on odgovorio: "Nema govora dok ne zavrse parking do kraja.".
Kada je gradjeno naselje Slatina u Tuzli, on je bio taj koji odlucuje ko ce dobiti posao. Na otvaranju ponuda su mu iz G.P. "Zlatibor" obecali kucu/vilu u Opatiji, ako oni dobiju posao, na sta ih je on, doslovno, istjerao iz kancelarije.Kasnije su dobili posao, jer su imali najbolju ponudu. Pitao ga moj babo - pa sta bi ti falilo da si uzeo tu kucu, kada su svakako bili najbolji? On mu odgovorio:"A, sto ce mi?!"
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Covjek, jednostavno, nije imao nikakvih dunjaluckih prohtjeva. Samo da na miru moze procitati kakav "kaubojski roman", ili rijesiti "krizaljku"". Jedne prilike mu prijatelj Njemac - kojeg je on, kao gradjevinskog tehnicara, "izvukao" iz radnog logora (zarobljeni vojnik) i uzeo u sluzbu, da bi ga nakon "odsluzene" obaveze otpustio kuci, a ovaj u Njemackoj osnovao gradjevinsku firmu (koja je, koliko znam, i danas jaka u Njemackoj) - za jedan odradjeni staticki proracun na velikom projektu, koji mu je on, onako usput, dok mu je bio u gostima, odradio (a bila mu je zaista frka), kao znak zahvalnosti dovezao novog novcatog Mercedesa, kojeg mu je zelio pokloniti. Moj babo, kao srednjoskolac, se "oduzeo" kada je to saznao. Djed nije htio ni da cuje, jer "sto ce mu?!". "Stari" i amidza ostali k'o popisani.![]()
Za ovu djelimicnu sanaciju znam, jer ubrzo nakon sto je djed preselio, su zvali na kucni broj i trazili inzinjera M., pa su se obelajili sto vise nije medju zivim, jer su, zbog specificnosti poduhvata, navodno, morali dalje traziti nekog inzinjera (tog profila) u Sloveniji.