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#142726 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 11:38
by apsidejzi
BiBi911 wrote: ↑20/01/2023 11:24
apsidejzi wrote: ↑20/01/2023 10:40
Svedi su prakticni. Njihova armija je mala i ne bi se mogla dugo opirati rujanima. Doduse iako je mala nanijela bi mnogo stete ruskoj armiji al ne bi izdrzala totalnu ofanzivu. Iz tog razloga, bolje je rat voditi dalje od kuce. Pogotovo sto Erdogan i Orban seru sa NATO pristupom.
Dok bi rusi dosli do Sweden moraju prvo proci preko Finske a Finskoj 1700000 naoružanih nek svaki ispali po jedan metak I od tih nek 30% pogodi ruskog ... to je fin broj ranjenih
Imaju i medjunarodne vode. Al kao sto rekoh, svedi bi skupo prodali svoju kozu al ne mislim da bi se sami mogli vojno oduprijeti.
#142727 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 11:38
by agent_zero
zigzag wrote: ↑20/01/2023 09:46
Eto ih da zauzmu Odesu, propast....
Pa onda isključimo igricu zvana Ukrajina i srknemo kafu.
Jbg, vama zajebancija što je jedan gradić pao, a drugi pred padom. Žrtve i da ne spominjem.
Nije ni čudo što je kvalitet teme drastično opao i ista se pretvorila u ko će šta poslati i koliko.
#142728 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 11:40
by Čitalac
Zelenski u obraćanju učesnicima skupa u Ramsteinu.
"I can thank you hundreds of times and it will be perfectly fair and honest, given everything we've already done. But hundreds of thanks are not hundreds of tanks. We can all say thousands of words, but I cannot replace with words the guns that are needed against Russian artillery, or anti-aircraft missiles that are needed to protect people from Russian airstrikes," Zelenskyy said.
But, according to him, time remains a Russian weapon.
"We have to hurry. Time should become our common weapon," he said.
Zelensky concluded his speech at the conference by calling for the next gathering in Ramstein to provide longer-range missiles and F-16 fighter jets.
"It is in your power to guarantee artillery and aircraft that will destroy terror. It is in your power to ensure victory," Zelenskyy said.
#142729 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 11:40
by agent_zero
DonieBrasco wrote: ↑20/01/2023 11:31
Tesko nam se kad onaj mutavac cetnicki zasjedne na mjesto Sifeta.
A eto Sifet je nešto ko plaho učinio?
Tri vojske i tri ministra pod jednim krovom.
#142730 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 11:41
by Peacean
Ispade da je jedan od razumnijih rusa

#142731 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 11:44
by PM72
DonieBrasco wrote: ↑20/01/2023 11:31
Tesko nam se kad onaj mutavac cetnicki zasjedne na mjesto Sifeta.
Koliko znam prijedlog za ministra odbrane je Zukan Helez a on nije četnik
#142732 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 11:44
by Maliodmene
agent_zero wrote: ↑20/01/2023 11:40
DonieBrasco wrote: ↑20/01/2023 11:31
Tesko nam se kad onaj mutavac cetnicki zasjedne na mjesto Sifeta.
A eto Sifet je nešto ko plaho učinio?
Tri vojske i tri ministra pod jednim krovom.
Kakav cetnik? Koji cetnik ce doci na njegovo mjesto?
#142733 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 11:51
by DonieBrasco
Maliodmene wrote: ↑20/01/2023 11:44
agent_zero wrote: ↑20/01/2023 11:40
A eto Sifet je nešto ko plaho učinio?
Tri vojske i tri ministra pod jednim krovom.
Kakav cetnik? Koji cetnik ce doci na njegovo mjesto?
Nenad Nesic
#142734 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 11:53
by drndalo
sumirprimus wrote: ↑20/01/2023 10:32
a mozda ima veze i ova posjeta cia glavnog lika zelenom, mozda znaju nesto sto ne pustaju u javnost, mozda je ovo sve povezano, a mozda nidje veze, ko zna sta se kuha, nase je da pratimo i navijamo
Jok, no je bas sve sto je razgovarano na sastanku saopsteno...
Bar je CIA poznata po transparentnosti...

#142735 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 11:59
by Maliodmene
DonieBrasco wrote: ↑20/01/2023 11:51
Maliodmene wrote: ↑20/01/2023 11:44
Kakav cetnik? Koji cetnik ce doci na njegovo mjesto?
Nenad Nesic
Buraz znas li razliku izmedju ministarstva odbrane i ministarstva sigurnosti?
#142736 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 12:05
by 512MB
Alarm širom cijele UA.
#142737 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 12:16
by Čitalac
Od početka agresije na Ukrajinu pa do novembra prošle godine, iz Rusije se zapravo povuklo manje od 10 odsto kompanija iz EU i članica G7.
Less than 9% of western firms have divested from Russia since it launched its invasion of Ukraine, according to a study by academics at St Gallen University and the International Institute for Management Development in Switzerland.
Simon Evenett and Niccolò Pisani said their research revealed “a very limited retreat of EU and G7 firms from Russia”, adding that the findings “challenge the narrative that there is a vast exodus of Western firms leaving the market”. The researchers said that of 1,404 EU and G7 companies registered as owning a total of 2,405 subsidiaries in Russia in February 2022, only 8.5% had divested at least one of them by November, with divestment rates “barely changing” in the fourth quarter.
“In effect, many firms headquartered in these nations have resisted pressures from governments, the media, and NGOs” to leave Russia, even though western firms that continue commercial ties “could be accused of ‘trading with the enemy’.” The study found that more US companies (18%) had pulled out of Russia than European firms (8%), and of those subsidiaries remaining, 19.5% were German owned, 12.4% American and 7% are Japanese.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm ... MAIL_ID%5D
#142738 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 12:18
by drug_profi
DonieBrasco wrote: ↑20/01/2023 11:31
Tesko nam se kad onaj mutavac cetnicki zasjedne na mjesto Sifeta.
Zukan Helez mutavac četnički?
#142739 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 12:21
by Bernardinac
apsidejzi wrote: ↑20/01/2023 11:38
BiBi911 wrote: ↑20/01/2023 11:24
Dok bi rusi dosli do Sweden moraju prvo proci preko Finske a Finskoj 1700000 naoružanih nek svaki ispali po jedan metak I od tih nek 30% pogodi ruskog ... to je fin broj ranjenih
Imaju i medjunarodne vode. Al kao sto rekoh, svedi bi skupo prodali svoju kozu al ne mislim da bi se sami mogli vojno oduprijeti.
GB im je obećala da će ih u prelaznom vremenu do NATO-a ona štititi ako zatreba. Čini mi se da sam to negdje čuo?
#142740 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 12:27
by drug_profi
Bernardinac wrote: ↑20/01/2023 12:21
apsidejzi wrote: ↑20/01/2023 11:38
Imaju i medjunarodne vode. Al kao sto rekoh, svedi bi skupo prodali svoju kozu al ne mislim da bi se sami mogli vojno oduprijeti.
GB im je obećala da će ih u prelaznom vremenu do NATO-a ona štititi ako zatreba. Čini mi se da sam to negdje čuo?
Imaju i garancije od USA i UK.
Obje, SWE i FIN
#142741 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 12:48
by lajkujMe
doox wrote: ↑20/01/2023 10:09
Kod njih nema nikakvih tabua
Ovo je samo floskula, ovo je pocetak teme f16.
Neko je morao zapoceti, sad ce se ko fol 3 mjeseca o tome diskutovati hoce nece a odluka vec zapravo stoji.
Sve sto nam ovo govori je da je trening pilota i tehnickog osoblja u Texasu pri kraju.
Znaci za jedno 3 do 4 mjeseca F16 ce biti isporuceni u paketu sa pilotima treniram.
Tad nek je bog na pomoci Rusima

#142742 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 12:49
by Bodkin
drug_profi wrote: ↑20/01/2023 12:27
Bernardinac wrote: ↑20/01/2023 12:21
GB im je obećala da će ih u prelaznom vremenu do NATO-a ona štititi ako zatreba. Čini mi se da sam to negdje čuo?
Imaju i garancije od USA i UK.
Obje, SWE i FIN
Budala ko ne misli da ne bi cijela evropa branila te dvije zemlje. Plus budala ko misli da se te dvije zemlje nemaju cime braniti
#142743 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 12:56
by Čitalac
Ozbiljna polemika u Bernu. Vlasti se u principu slažu da zamrznuta ruska sredstva (8,2 milijarde dolara) budu prebačena Ukrajini, ali banke se grčevito bore protiv toga jer smatraju da bi takav potez bio „smrtna presuda“ bankarskom sistemu. Stvar bi mogla biti odlučena referendumom.
Switzerland’s Foreign Minister Ignazio Cassis signaled his country’s support for the idea of confiscating frozen Russian assets and using them for the reconstruction of Ukraine, putting him on a collision course with the country’s banks who hate the proposal.
“If we are serious about helping to rebuild Ukraine, we need to think about how we’re going to finance that,” Cassis told Swiss newspaper Tages-Anzeiger. Authorities in a number of countries are discussing such a step, he said, “but this must be done correctly under the rule of law.”
So far, according to Cassis, Switzerland has frozen the assets of sanctioned Russians by 7.5 billion francs ($8.2 billion), but, according to Swiss law, they cannot be confiscated. Changing this law is likely to require a referendum.
"We can't just take money that doesn't belong to us, just because we think it's morally right. Ownership is fundamental," Cassis said.
Swiss banks were very critical of this proposal. According to one of the bankers, quoted by NZZ, neglect of property rights will undermine Switzerland's position as a financial center. Another banker called the move a "death sentence" for the Swiss banking system.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... or-ukraine
#142744 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 12:57
by drndalo
Čitalac wrote: ↑20/01/2023 12:16
Od početka agresije na Ukrajinu pa do novembra prošle godine, iz Rusije se zapravo povuklo manje od 10 odsto kompanija iz EU i članica G7.
Less than 9% of western firms have divested from Russia since it launched its invasion of Ukraine, according to a study by academics at St Gallen University and the International Institute for Management Development in Switzerland.
Simon Evenett and Niccolò Pisani said their research revealed “a very limited retreat of EU and G7 firms from Russia”, adding that the findings “challenge the narrative that there is a vast exodus of Western firms leaving the market”. The researchers said that of 1,404 EU and G7 companies registered as owning a total of 2,405 subsidiaries in Russia in February 2022, only 8.5% had divested at least one of them by November, with divestment rates “barely changing” in the fourth quarter.
“In effect, many firms headquartered in these nations have resisted pressures from governments, the media, and NGOs” to leave Russia, even though western firms that continue commercial ties “could be accused of ‘trading with the enemy’.” The study found that more US companies (18%) had pulled out of Russia than European firms (8%), and of those subsidiaries remaining, 19.5% were German owned, 12.4% American and 7% are Japanese.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm ... MAIL_ID%5D
Povuklo i "diverstiralo" ne bi trebalo biti isto...
#142745 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 13:09
by sumirprimus
jao jao pa ovo na juris fakat
#142746 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 13:10
by sumirprimus
512MB wrote: ↑20/01/2023 11:02
Novi air defense sistemi instalirani u Moskvi nedaleko od Putinove rezidencije.
ovo je ko ona kemicina da ti roknu makar dvije.
#142747 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 13:11
by sumirprimus
ma ima jos nesto, digli se od cie bie, mo.a ukri na sav glas vriste. nesto se kuha. sta vidjecemo.
#142748 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 13:11
by zigzag
sumirprimus wrote: ↑20/01/2023 13:09
jao jao pa ovo na juris fakat
uraaaaaaaaa.....
Treba livade pretrčati. I onda kažu okružili Bahmut. A puta nigdje.
#142749 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 13:13
by sumirprimus
agent_zero wrote: ↑20/01/2023 11:38
zigzag wrote: ↑20/01/2023 09:46
Eto ih da zauzmu Odesu, propast....
Pa onda isključimo igricu zvana Ukrajina i srknemo kafu.
Jbg, vama zajebancija što je jedan gradić pao, a drugi pred padom. Žrtve i da ne spominjem.
Nije ni čudo što je kvalitet teme drastično opao i ista se pretvorila u ko će šta poslati i koliko.
dosta se toga desava iza kulisa , oni nadiru na ovaj bahmut i soledar mjesecima, ukri ako imaju druge a vece planove naravno da ih nece mijenjati radi jednog mjesta. nase je da pratimo i navijamo sta ce bit.
#142750 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 20/01/2023 13:14
by sumirprimus
zigzag wrote: ↑20/01/2023 13:11
sumirprimus wrote: ↑20/01/2023 13:09
jao jao pa ovo na juris fakat
uraaaaaaaaa.....
Treba livade pretrčati. I onda kažu okružili Bahmut. A puta nigdje.
ma realno druze ovde dok pretrcis meraju i zapnes u koji mravinjak i rupcagu , bez daha si, mrtav zedan i umoran i da ne puca , il smo mi prestari vec
