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Ukrajina
- Truba
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#14051 Re: Ukrajina
na početku rata 1992. u selu gdje sam bio izbjeglica avion je izbacivao krmače... promašio je sve kuće i bombe izbacio u polje... a smiljko šagolj na hrtu uništena škola pogođene kuće 
ako si čovjek uvijek možeš promašiti
ako si čovjek uvijek možeš promašiti
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#14053 Re: Ukrajina
Uglavnom, avion nije slučajno skrenuo sa rute i ušao u zonu zabranjenog leta, neko ga je usmjerio tamo, a onaj ko ga je usmjerio tamo, tj. onaj ko je naredio njegovo preusmjeravanje u zonu zabrane, taj je odgovoran i za njegovo obaranje. Dakle, samo ukrajinska kontrola leta je mogla usmjeriti avion na tu putanju, prema tome, zna se i ko stoji iza toga.
- insomnia78
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#14054 Re: Ukrajina
I sta su time dobili, mislis da istraga nece prvo pitati isto to?
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- husein_kapetan
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#14055 Re: Ukrajina
Ovaj snimak na CNN-u pokazuje nekakvu eksploziju pri impaktu o tlo?? Ako je pogođen BUK-om zar nije trebao ekspodirati u vazduhu sa svim onim kerozinom u spremnicima?? i... Zašto niko od odgovornih nije upozorio ovaj avion da leti van rute upravo iznad zone ratnih dejstava??
- Challenger__
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#14056 Re: Ukrajina
Sad ću ti reći šta su dobili sa tim. Da bi Kiki mogao biti politički korektan. Da mi mogao onako hladno da se pohvali da optužuje proruse na forumu...insomnia78 wrote:I sta su time dobili, mislis da istraga nece prvo pitati isto to?
Kiki, ubleha.
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#14057 Re: Ukrajina
Jarane
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- husein_kapetan
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#14058 Re: Ukrajina
Vala.. ovoj Maleziji se baš podrepilo.. prvo onaj "nestali" avion sada ovo.. za nevjerovati..
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#14059 Re: Ukrajina
I da su ga oborili pobunjenici? Hoce li USA napasti Rusiju? Nece,jer imaju atomsku bombu
- shibonja
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#14060 Re: Ukrajina
husein_kapetan wrote:Ovaj snimak na CNN-u pokazuje nekakvu eksploziju pri impaktu o tlo?? Ako je pogođen BUK-om zar nije trebao ekspodirati u vazduhu sa svim onim kerozinom u spremnicima?? i... Zašto niko od odgovornih nije upozorio ovaj avion da leti van rute upravo iznad zone ratnih dejstava??
Pa mozda je pogodjen u nos....raspadne se u vazduhu kako i jeste i onda rezervoari explodiraju na tlu...
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#14061 Re: Ukrajina
daxon wrote:Uglavnom, avion nije slučajno skrenuo sa rute i ušao u zonu zabranjenog leta, neko ga je usmjerio tamo, a onaj ko ga je usmjerio tamo, tj. onaj ko je naredio njegovo preusmjeravanje u zonu zabrane, taj je odgovoran i za njegovo obaranje. Dakle, samo ukrajinska kontrola leta je mogla usmjeriti avion na tu putanju, prema tome, zna se i ko stoji iza toga.
ima logike
- shibonja
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#14062 Re: Ukrajina
Crne kutije su na putu za Moskvu,e sad....
- Challenger__
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#14063 Re: Ukrajina
President Putin's plane might have been the target for Ukrainian missileEkskluzivne informacije objavljuje ruska novinska agencija RT - prema neimenovanim izvorima "meta ukrajinskih raketa možda je bio zrakoplov u kojem se nalazio predsjednik Vladimir Putin". Izvori navode kako je Putinov zrakoplov putovao gotovo istom rutom
- General War
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#14064 Re: Ukrajina
To Rusi, kako se navukose na penal
U.S. Congress passes Russian Aggression Prevention Act
U.S. Plans to Grunt Full Military Aid to Ukraine According
to the law on the prevention of Russian aggression adopted by the
KYIV, July 17 /Ukrinform/. The U.S. Congress adopted in two readings
the Russian Aggression Prevention Act of 2014, under which Moldova,
Ukraine and Georgia are provided with major non-NATO ally status.
The draft act has been submitted to the Committee on Foreign Affairs to be finally adopted, Espreso TV reported.
The draft act provides major non-NATO ally status for Ukraine, Georgia,
and Moldova (during the period in which each of such countries meets
specified criteria) for purposes of the transfer or possible transfer of
defense articles or defense services.
The document also directs President Barack Obama to increase U.S. Armed
Forces interactions with the armed forces of Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova,
Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro, and
Serbia; and U.S and NATO security assistance to such states.
The draft act urged the U.S. Agency for International Development
(USAID), the Trade and Development Agency, the Overseas Private
Investment Corporation (OPIC), the World Bank Group, and the European
Bank for Reconstruction to promote assistance to Ukraine, Georgia, and
Moldova in order to exploit natural gas and oil reserves and to develop
alternative energy sources.
The document also prohibits any federal department or agency from
taking any action that recognizes Russian Federation sovereignty over
Crimea or otherwise endorses the Russian Federation's illegal annexation
of Crimea. As stated in the document, the U.S. president has the right to grant to
the Government of Ukraine at the request of the government, as
appropriate and in accordance with the capabilities and needs of the
Armed Forces of Ukraine the following defensive equipment, services and
training: 1) anti-tank weapons and ammunition.
2) anti-aircraft weapons and ammunition.
3) vehicle installed arms and ammunition.
4) Small arms and ammunition, including pistols, submachine guns, assault rifles, grenade launchers and sniper rifles.
5) armored vehicles.
6) high mobility multipurpose wheeled vehicles.
7) inflatable boats.
vests and so on.
Earlier, the U.S. and the EU imposed new sanctions against Russian Federation for the aggression against Ukraine.
U.S. Congress passes Russian Aggression Prevention Act
U.S. Plans to Grunt Full Military Aid to Ukraine According
to the law on the prevention of Russian aggression adopted by the
KYIV, July 17 /Ukrinform/. The U.S. Congress adopted in two readings
the Russian Aggression Prevention Act of 2014, under which Moldova,
Ukraine and Georgia are provided with major non-NATO ally status.
The draft act has been submitted to the Committee on Foreign Affairs to be finally adopted, Espreso TV reported.
The draft act provides major non-NATO ally status for Ukraine, Georgia,
and Moldova (during the period in which each of such countries meets
specified criteria) for purposes of the transfer or possible transfer of
defense articles or defense services.
The document also directs President Barack Obama to increase U.S. Armed
Forces interactions with the armed forces of Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova,
Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro, and
Serbia; and U.S and NATO security assistance to such states.
The draft act urged the U.S. Agency for International Development
(USAID), the Trade and Development Agency, the Overseas Private
Investment Corporation (OPIC), the World Bank Group, and the European
Bank for Reconstruction to promote assistance to Ukraine, Georgia, and
Moldova in order to exploit natural gas and oil reserves and to develop
alternative energy sources.
The document also prohibits any federal department or agency from
taking any action that recognizes Russian Federation sovereignty over
Crimea or otherwise endorses the Russian Federation's illegal annexation
of Crimea. As stated in the document, the U.S. president has the right to grant to
the Government of Ukraine at the request of the government, as
appropriate and in accordance with the capabilities and needs of the
Armed Forces of Ukraine the following defensive equipment, services and
training: 1) anti-tank weapons and ammunition.
2) anti-aircraft weapons and ammunition.
3) vehicle installed arms and ammunition.
4) Small arms and ammunition, including pistols, submachine guns, assault rifles, grenade launchers and sniper rifles.
5) armored vehicles.
6) high mobility multipurpose wheeled vehicles.
7) inflatable boats.
Earlier, the U.S. and the EU imposed new sanctions against Russian Federation for the aggression against Ukraine.
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#14065 Re: Ukrajina
Proruske milicije pozivaju na prekid vatre da bi se omogućila istraga na terenu:
Donetsk People’s Republic Prime Minister Aleksandr Boroday has called for a humanitarian ceasefire for 2 to 3 days to investigate the causes of the MH17 crash, RIA news agency reports. Boroday earlier accused Kiev of shooting down the plane to frame local militias.
- shibonja
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#14066 Re: Ukrajina
@General War
Konkretno nema sta !
Konkretno nema sta !
- dječak sa šibicama
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#14067 Re: Ukrajina

Zona iznad istocne Ukrajine je zatvorena za civilni promet, avioni kod Hrakova izlaze iz Ukrajine ili idu okolo, kako se vidi na planu letenja.
Zasto je malezijski avion od strane kontrole leta usmjeren tamo gdje nije smio ici???
- husein_kapetan
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#14068 Re: Ukrajina
Nego..
Postoji li mogućnost da su ovi "separatisti" u posjedu ovih složenih PVO sistema..
Postoji li mogućnost da su ovi "separatisti" u posjedu ovih složenih PVO sistema..
- Co0l
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#14069 Re: Ukrajina
A jel to imaju neki konkretni dokazi da je bas kontrola leta navela avion tamo gdje je oboren?
- General War
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#14070 Re: Ukrajina
Svaka PVO raketa srednjeg dometa, pa nagore... od SA6, SA3...pa i noviji BUK imaju proximity senzore i bojeva glava se detonira kada je najbliza meti, nije potreban direktan pogodak...s obzirom da su tankovi za gorivo na civilnom avionu napravljeni napravljeni od neke vrste gme, nece se odmah sve zapaliti...tankovi su grili ali tek na udaru dolazi do dezintegracije tankova, pa uz to motori...tako da ne mora znaciti da je explozija morala se desiti u vazduhu ali strukturna dezintegracija od poremecene aerodinamike plus brzina govori zasto su se rasuli po velikoj povrsini.husein_kapetan wrote:Ovaj snimak na CNN-u pokazuje nekakvu eksploziju pri impaktu o tlo?? Ako je pogođen BUK-om zar nije trebao ekspodirati u vazduhu sa svim onim kerozinom u spremnicima?? i... Zašto niko od odgovornih nije upozorio ovaj avion da leti van rute upravo iznad zone ratnih dejstava??
- dječak sa šibicama
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#14071 Re: Ukrajina
Ako imalo poznajes sistem civilne avijacije, znas da avion leti samo tamo gdje mu kontrola leta dopusta.
Kontrolor letenja je Bog i batina u civilnom saobracaju.
Kontrolor letenja je Bog i batina u civilnom saobracaju.
- General War
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#14072 Re: Ukrajina
Separatisti "imaju" po sopstvenoj tvrdnji ovaj sistem ali jedan (1)...e sad ako nije bio u toj zoni a blizu ruske granice, a nema ukrajinaca blizu...sta ti prvo pada na pamet?husein_kapetan wrote:Nego..
Postoji li mogućnost da su ovi "separatisti" u posjedu ovih složenih PVO sistema..
- husein_kapetan
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#14073 Re: Ukrajina
OK..hvalaGeneral War wrote:Svaka PVO raketa srednjeg dometa, pa nagore... od SA6, SA3...pa i noviji BUK imaju proximity senzore i bojeva glava se detonira kada je najbliza meti, nije potreban direktan pogodak...s obzirom da su tankovi za gorivo na civilnom avionu napravljeni napravljeni od neke vrste gme, nece se odmah sve zapaliti...tankovi su grili ali tek na udaru dolazi do dezintegracije tankova, pa uz to motori...tako da ne mora znaciti da je explozija morala se desiti u vazduhu ali strukturna dezintegracija od poremecene aerodinamike plus brzina govori zasto su se rasuli po velikoj povrsini.husein_kapetan wrote:Ovaj snimak na CNN-u pokazuje nekakvu eksploziju pri impaktu o tlo?? Ako je pogođen BUK-om zar nije trebao ekspodirati u vazduhu sa svim onim kerozinom u spremnicima?? i... Zašto niko od odgovornih nije upozorio ovaj avion da leti van rute upravo iznad zone ratnih dejstava??
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sumirprimus
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#14074 Re: Ukrajina
A jebte tragedije,nevjerovatno....
I de malo ba strucnjaci covjek bi reko sve dr mr fr za geopolitiku sisteme naoruzanje...de malo .....
I de malo ba strucnjaci covjek bi reko sve dr mr fr za geopolitiku sisteme naoruzanje...de malo .....
- Point.
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#14075 Re: Ukrajina
Najjace mi kad ovaj challanger kaze "hunta" za legalno izabranu vladu u Kijevu. O zivote.
