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Medicinar/farmer svaka ti čast. Kapa do poda.
Ja sam u ratu ležao na ortopediji, prekoputa dječijeg odjeljenja. Odem tamo posjetiti onu dječicu, puno ih sa amputacijama, srce da ti pukne.

Jedan sam od te djece (amputirac), pa mi je to bio dodatni motiv, neshto shto me jos vise “vuklo” da pomognem i da neke stvari slozim u glavi, sto mi je nedostajalo iz tog perioda ranjavanja, praznina..
To su me i tamo stalno pitali kada im kazem da sam iz Bosne/Sarajeva iskustva Bio sam premlad (6g kad sam ranjen) da bih se puno toga sjecao..nada su se neke stvari ‘vratile” oni zvuci granatiranja, pucanja.. bez el energije hladnoca…mati kad treba po vodu pa da me “okupa” i brisanja jako i brzo peskirom…zanimljivo da mis e i taj osjecaj vratio prisnosti.topline.
I sampona (mati stedila vodu hahah)
Kad poredim, nekako mi ostaje taj neki “gorak” osjecaj, da njima cijeli svijet pomaze, a nas su ti isti ostavili., odbacili, ”zaboravili”. Al’ nije ni mjesto ni vrijeme.
Malo o obicnom zivotu. Hladnoce najvise.U Kievu sam boravio krajem N i pocetkom Decembra., bas za vrijeme granatiranja.Restrikcije el energije ,grijanja, vode, interneta 12h dnevno.Generatori su na sve strane sve je pokriveno.Zanjmljivo da se generatori (oni manji kucni mogu kupiti online cijena je oko 2500$ ( za 1US$ dobijes26/7 Ukranskiih Hrvyina).Sve je otvoreno, radi..hrane, osnovnih potrepstina ima,nema nestasica ni nekog “crnog marketa” (bar ja nisam primijetio. Veoma su rigorozni po tom pitanju..i djeluju odmah i na najmanje dojave.Nepovjerljivi dok vas ne upoznaju ,onda veoma susretljivi.
Hljeb/kruh pola kg oko 0.40$, mlijeko 1l 0.80$., meso (tel( omo 5$ kg80$. jabuke 0.50$, banane 0.80$ Marlboro1.80$ Cola limenka 0.30k
Cijena petrola je oko$1,30gradski prevoz 0.30$, taxi 2$ start,0.25@po km..5$ sat cekanja.
Brza hrana 3.50$, osrednji restoran rucak je oko 20$, exkluzivni restorani vecera za 4osobe +pice..300-tinjak$.Znaci kao i svugdje..sveega ima zavisi od “situacije u dzepu.
-Prosjecna primanja(poslije taxe) je oko 450$ , ljekar specijalista 2000$+
Sve je poskupilo ali se ne bune..skoncentrisani su na sadasnjost, ne razmisljaju puno sta ce biti kasnije.Optimisti. Nisu za kompromis da se dio Ukraine pripoji rusiji..
Za kraj, slucajni susret sa Zelenskim, negdje na pola puta izmedju( Kiev i Lviv).Veoma cesto je u posjetina borbenim linijama, vojska ga respektuje, cijeni ima povjerenja.Cuo je da smo u tom nekom mjestu, svratio maksuz da nas vidi ,zahvali.Malo popricali, popio caj, ostavio nam par boca da se “ugrijemo”.Intiligentan, racionalan, voli da “cita” sagovornika”..po “govoru tijela” otvoren, konkretan, znako stoji iza njeg.. “tog nekog” (znamo ko je je l’)slijedi.Nije bas odusevljen Nijemcima i Dancima
da ne “peglam” previse
SLAVA UKRAINI!!!

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ukri uzvracaju

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mogli su malo i po bjeloruskim govnima opaliti. kad oni mogu dronove slati treba im uzvratiti

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oborise rucnim lanserom

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Jel ovo radi na IC principu? Motor se fiksira kao cilj?

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I Ljukašenku se definitivno mora lekcija očitati.

Njegova sastajanja sa Putlerom kome je sve stavio na raspolaganje ozbiljno ugrožavaju poziciju Ukrajine.

On kao nije uključen u ovaj sukob a u stvari sve od teritorije do opreme i naoružanja je u Putlerovim rukama.

Zamislimo samo koliko jedinica Ukrajinci moraju držati na oprezu prema bjeloruskoj granici

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Mi u bijeloj sramoti, skupa sa Smrdijom.

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nisi me razumio.

boli briga hodžice za ukrajinu. smeta im što je američka ambasada dala odriješene ruke da se ide u vlast bez SDA. to ih boli.

rekao sam medijski naslovi koji se tiču formiranja vlasti, a ne rata u ukrajini, jer opet ponavljam, boli ih kurac za rat u ukrajini.

jedino se počešu oko palestine, ali do nivoa hutbe. a pogodi ko je najveći saveznik ugnjetavačima palestinaca.


dodaj još da su mahom poluobrazovani, podložni tupavim teorijama zavjera, da su predmet teorija zavjera uglavnom jevreji... dobiješ to što dobiješ.

ali osnovno i bitno, kakav je odnos SDA sa amerikancima, takav će biti i IZ. ni manje, ni više.

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Nikad, nikad ljudi da shvate da od nameta nema selameta.
Vjeruj u šta hoćeš BMK. Za sebe, u svojoj kući.
Jer onog momenta kad meni počneš nametati svoja vjerovanja i ja ću tebi pucati kontru.
Pa ćeš se naći uvrijeđen.
Ajde?

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oborise rucnim lanserom

Jel ovo radi na IC principu? Motor se fiksira kao cilj?

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mogli su malo i po bjeloruskim govnima opaliti. kad oni mogu dronove slati treba im uzvratiti

Potpuno se slažem.

I oni su strana u sukobu od prvog dana.

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Svaka ti čast prijatelju!

SLAVA UKRAJINI!

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Jel se to Grci predomislili u vezi njihovih S-300 sistema? Eno Lavrov priča da su im obećali da ih neće prebacivati.

[mishic]

Zahvalivši se zapadnim partnerima na dopremanju zaliha oružja, Zelenski je također rekao da će Ukrajina stvoriti moćnu domaću odbrambenu industriju koja će “biti jedna od najmoćnijih u Evropi i svijetu”.

Ovo može biti ključ uspostaveve novog potpuno drugačijeg poretka u svijettu

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Inside the Ukrainian counteroffensive that shocked Putin and reshaped the war
By Isabelle Khurshudyan, Paul Sonne, Serhiy Morgunov and Kamila Hrabchuk
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This reconstruction of the Kharkiv and Kherson counteroffensives is based on interviews with more than 35 people, including Ukrainian commanders, officials in Kyiv and combat troops, as well as senior U.S. and European military and political official

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What emerges is a story of how deepening cooperation with NATO powers, especially the United States, enabled Ukrainian forces — backed with weapons, intelligence and advice — to seize the initiative on the battlefield, expose Putin’s annexation claims as a fantasy, and build faith at home and abroad that Russia could be defeated.

“Our relationship with all of our partners changed immediately,” said Col. Gen. Oleksandr Syrsky, who commanded the Kharkiv offensive. “That is, they saw that we could achieve victory — and the help they were providing was being used with effect.”

In the last days of August, Syrsky met in a large operations room in Ukraine’s east with his top aides and key brigade commanders. Before them was a 520-square-foot 3D-printed terrain map of the part of the Kharkiv region occupied by Russia.

Each commander walked the path of his unit’s planned assault amid the replica cities, hills and rivers, acting out its mission and discussing coordination, contingencies and worst-case scenarios. Officers used laser pointers to spotlight trouble spots.

“It was painstaking work,” Syrsky said.

War in Ukraine has decimated a once feared Russian brigade

Since at least the spring, Syrsky had been considering the Kharkiv region, and the strategic cities of Balakliya and Izyum, as vulnerable points for the Russians.

He started thinking about how he would conduct an offensive by driving deep into Russian-held territory from an unexpected area north of the two cities, cutting off Russian forces from reserves across the nearby border and putting both Balakliya and Izyum at risk of encirclement.

The geography and the positioning of Russian forces convinced him it could be accomplished in a single, rapid blow — ideally so fast that Russia would not be able to regroup.

When orders went out from the Ukrainian General Staff last summer for commanders to come up with possible diversionary operations to draw Russian forces away from the defense of Kherson, Syrsky knew what he would propose.

“The enemy … thought that, because so many forces had been built up in Izyum and more were stationed over the Russian border in the Belgorod region, ‘you’d have to be crazy to move and try to strike right in the middle and split the two,’” Syrsky said. “But the thought was there.”

By August, in part thanks to detailed intelligence supplied by the United States, Syrsky saw that the number of battalions in Izyum had dropped by at least half, as Russia relocated its most experienced fighters to Kherson.

“In the history of wars, there have been many cases when an attack on a diversionary axis — that is, on a secondary axis — turns into the main axis,” Syrsky said. “The prospects were all there, because … the enemy absolutely didn’t expect that we would attack in the exact place where we delivered the main blow.”

Syrsky calculated that Ukraine could not afford the losses that would come with attacking towns and cities head-on. Instead, he planned to sweep across the front, encircling population centers and forcing the enemy to retreat.

Speed was essential. If the Russians sent in reserves from across the border, large numbers of Ukrainian troops could get cut off behind enemy lines.

“Everything depended on the first day — how far we could break through,” Syrsky said. “The farther we went, the less they could do, the more their units would be cut off and isolated under psychological pressure.”

By August, the Ukrainians had all but run out of the Soviet-era ammunition used by most of their artillery. Western allies were rushing in NATO-standard ammunition and systems — but not enough.

Inside the monumental, stop-start effort to arm Ukraine

In a risky decision, Ukraine moved some of the most valuable Western weapons systems away from hotter spots on the eastern front. Each attacking brigade was armed with at least eight M777 howitzers, commanders said. In some cases, the M777s arrived at encampments the night before the assault began. Extra drones were also brought in to ensure that brigades could pinpoint targets and use less ammunition.

Maj. Gen. Andriy Malinovsky, head of missile forces and artillery training for the Ukrainian army, was still worried the force could need more than 100,000 munitions. The Ukrainians had only tens of thousands — not enough for a protracted slog. (Ultimately, Malinovsky said, they used about 32,500 over five days).

U.S. intelligence helped ration the ammunition through accurate targeting. After many months, according to U.S. and Ukrainian officials, the two partners had worked out a real-time regimen: The Ukrainians would outline the types of high-value targets they were looking for in an area, and the United States would use its vast geospatial intelligence apparatus to respond with precise locations.

The Americans, however, were not deeply involved in planning the Kharkiv offensive and learned about it relatively late, according to U.S. and Ukrainian officials.

Despite attempts at secrecy, the Russians eventually realized that the Ukrainians were up to something.

Thanks to Russian bureaucracy, Syrsky said, the information “didn’t reach anyone or it wasn’t taken into account.”

At the Pentagon, officials suspected that Russia’s leadership didn’t fully realize the vulnerabilities on the Kharkiv front because battlefield commanders were lying. Another hypothesis, a senior U.S. defense official said, was that Russia saw the onslaught coming but didn’t have enough men to stop it.

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Ukrajina ima izvrsnu podlogu u industriji i obrazovanju. Sve ce oni ovo napraviti sami. Kupovace samo avione i mozda tenkove. A vjerujem da ce ubrzo po okoncanju rata praviti svoje.

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Oleh’s company went first and dug in at the first Russian checkpoint in the city. Within minutes, a boxy Zhiguli sedan with flags and the painted letter “Z” — a symbol of the invaders — came speeding up the road filled with fighters.

If they were trying to flee, they were headed in the wrong direction.

“Come this way, my sweet,” Oleh said.

A soldier blasted the car with a rocket-propelled grenade.

“Enemy eliminated,” he said.

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[HarTar]

Mete današnjih raketnih udara. Opet je najviše pogođena elektroenergetska infrastruktura.

[drug_profi]

I evo Sirsky je gore fakticki objasnio zasto se nije odmah islo dalje na Svatove.
Velike ruske rezerve u Belgorod oblasti i nedovoljno art. municije.
I takodjer potvrdio da je akcija planirana od Ukrajinaca, bez amerikanaca koji su samo informisani da ce biti.